Current Events > When the South is right, it's right

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https://twitter.com/MestizoLeftist/status/1395378249753055232


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Huh? I didn't know that. Loved my teachers growing up.

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Only In Massachusetts does it show

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lol damn

The median teacher salary is $61k? I thought it was half that.

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alabama, louisiana, mississippi: our education is absolute dogshit but we pay the teachers well!

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I dont believe this graphic one bit.

Is this based on the median listed salary or actual? Because police use and abuse overtime pay to get a lot of money.

Blue lives don't matter in the south

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The Trent posted...

alabama, louisiana, mississippi: our education is absolute dogshit but we pay the teachers well!

Probably have to pay well so that they'll actually teach in those backwards-ass states.

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my state must not pay either very well if they are about the same because teachers get paid like shit here

CruelBuffalo posted...

I dont believe this graphic one bit.

Is this based on the median listed salary or actual? Because police use and abuse overtime pay to get a lot of money.

Thats a good point.

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Also worth noting that teachers in CA for example get paid much better than those other states, even if cops make more. Teachers in much of the south and midwest make crap

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Georgia: Pays teachers more than cops

Also Georgia: Stalin was born there

Coincidence?

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Probably an Internet hot take but I am fine with cops making more than teachers. IMO cop is a more intense and demanding job. Not saying teachers aren't too, but not quite to the same level.

Way to be petty as per usual CE

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This is not accurate. I don't know how else to say it but the median income for a teacher in Louisiana is not 61k.

The average income is 40k for a teacher in Baton Rouge (the state capital).

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Doe posted...

The median teacher salary is $61k? I thought it was half that.

you might be thinking of new teachers. Teaching has a TON of burnout early on and it's a career where people who do stay, stay around for a long time, which likely brings the figure up.

this figure shows that new teachers make up a tiny piece of the pie of teachers.

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Robot2600 posted...

This is not accurate. I don't know how else to say it but the median income for a teacher in Louisiana is not 61k.

The average income is 40k for a teacher in Baton Rouge (the state capital).

are you really going to dispute the US bureau of labor statistics?

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CoolMaskGuy posted...

Probably an Internet hot take but I am fine with cops making more than teachers. IMO cop is a more intense and demanding job. Not saying teachers aren't too, but not quite to the same level.

What could be more important than the education of the leaders of the future?

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i imagine that the local crackheads can apply to be teachers there in Florida...

It's quite literally because we've been sued to hell for unequal funding in certain schools. I'll let you guess which

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MorbidFaithless posted...

What could be more important than the education of the leaders of the future?

yeah, better teachers = need less law enforcement in the future.

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King_Hutton posted...

Thats a good point.

Not really. It's not relevant to the point that those states pay teachers more than others and cops less than others.

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Drpooplol posted...

are you really going to dispute the US bureau of labor statistics?

Yes, these stats are wrong.

I worked with college professors and they make less.

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Do police budgets depend on property taxes like schools do?

Drpooplol posted...

are you really going to dispute the US bureau of labor statistics?

Yes. Teacher salaries are simply not that high. My guess is they are including things like principles, super-intendants, and other administrators and calling them "teachers."

So in reality this map probably shows where administrator pay is out of control, not where education is actually supported.

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Turtlemayor333 posted...

Yes, these stats are wrong.

I worked with college professors and they make less.

Bruh what kind of college professors do you work with

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Robot2600 posted...

Yes. Teacher salaries are simply not that high. My guess is they are including things like principles, super-intendants, and other administrators and calling them "teachers."

This has to be it

Alabama probably included Nick Saban on here

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ButteryMales posted...

Do police budgets depend on property taxes like schools do?

Yes and no. Police are mostly paid through municipal and county budgets, which in many places come from property taxes, but not always. Other common taxes are franchise fees for utilities and sales taxes

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Another thing you might consider is that this could include private teachers. It's not clear

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Squall28 posted...

Bruh what kind of college professors do you work with

Most college professors don't make nearly this much (source: I am one, and I know 100 others like me).

Most of the money is locked into huge salaries for tenured professors, who are overwhelmingly baby boomers, and maybe Gen X. The rest goes to pay administrators to do basically nothing 80% of the time.

Millennials are paid very low, kept as "contract workers" for years without any kinds of benefits, or are grad students who are actually paying the university to teach.

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Balrog0 posted...

Another thing you might consider is that this could include private teachers. It's not clear

Hmm, this makes me think of Nun teachers. Do they get money from the clergy on top of the teacher salary?

It's been pointed out elsewhere that this doesn't count the OT pay that makes cops actual pay significantly higher than their base salary

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It's easier to become a cop down south.

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Turtlemayor333 posted...

Yes, these stats are wrong.

I worked with college professors and they make less.

This clearly is talking about k-12, not professors

Squall28 posted...

Bruh what kind of college professors do you work with

Gonna remember this shitpost next time you try to talk about anything in academia

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Antifar posted...

It's been pointed out elsewhere that this doesn't count the OT pay that makes cops actual pay significantly higher than their base salary

It also doesn't count the uncompensated time teachers do because it literally can't.

Two totally comparable jobs

ExtremeLuchador posted...

It's easier to become a cop down south.

I'd argue its probably easier on a whole as well

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It's actually just elementary, so k-5?

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SothaSil posted...

Gonna remember this s***post next time you try to talk about anything in academia

Uh...I'm sorry my professors made more than a newly graduated engineer?

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Balrog0 posted...

It's actually just elementary, so k-5?

In California, idk about other states, there is no difference in pay for a district from k-12. You are paid on seniority only. Not subject. Not grade.

CruelBuffalo posted...

In California, idk about other states, there is no difference in pay for a district from k-12. You are paid on seniority only. Not subject. Not grade.

Yeah I'm not saying there's necessarily a difference, but I checked the bls and secondary and elementary are treated separately. Just noting that this is specifically 'elementary.' I don't think it's different here in Arkansas either but I'm not sure

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Squall28 posted...

Uh...I'm sorry my professors made more than a newly graduated engineer?

Are you under the impression that the professoriate is made up entirely of full tenured professors

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God bless Texas.I

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Xavier_On_High posted...

Probably have to pay well so that they'll actually teach in those backwards-ass states.

In my state there is a college that will give you a degree in teaching for free provided you work at a school of their choice for 2 years. Which to my understanding is usually impoverished schools. In the grand scheme of things 2 years aint bad for a 4 year degree to be paid off.

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Did they raise teachers wages now that their just as likely to get shot as police officers?

My wife is a teacher in CO with 10 years experience and her master's

She makes 46k

Njolk posted...

My wife is a teacher in CO with 10 years experience and her master's

She makes 46k

Shit thats about what I made last year with all my overtime and my job is pretty dangerous.

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In my county the pigs salary equals out to like 16 an hour

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I figure the kids in the South are easier to deal with than kids from War Zone areas?

War Zone areas like California are naturally gonna spend more on Police action than North Carolina.

The money is cut up differently.

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