Current Events > 39 year old woman dies 4 days after getting 2nd covid vaccine.

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And in those 4 days thousands more died from covid. For anyone who thinks theyre going to die from getting a vaccine, do you routinely put all of your money on bets that you have a 0.01% chance of winning?

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If we gave a fuck what people's opinions are, then the very concept of a vaccine might as well get thrown in the trash. They require cooperation and adherence.

Nice try, Big Science, but letting diseases have their way with the population is worth my harebrained "opinion"! Now excuse me while I take my daily medications before I post my anti-science rants on the Internet from my computer!

Nikra posted...

The problem with scientists/experts is that they are all for sale for the highest bidders.
You can't trust any of their statements.

But your gut is so trustworthy, huh? Oh, I bet you go to the "real" experts for the truth? They would never be able to get lies past the scientific rigor of "whether or not they tell me what I want to hear".

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Forever_Black posted...

Yea Im not getting it

This. I'm normally pro-vax, except when it comes to this.

And tagging someone as an anti-vaxxer is creepy and dystopian af.

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sondast posted...

And in those 4 days thousands more died from covid. For anyone who thinks theyre going to die from getting a vaccine, do you routinely put all of your money on bets that you have a 0.01% chance of winning?

"I would never risk dying in an airplane" they say before driving 12 hours on the highway in a car.

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DarkRoast posted...

0.2% of the entire US population died of COVID19

If that was a mortality rate of any vaccine, antivaxxers would lose their absolute shit.

What morons tend to do is think that vaccination only affects their risk of getting disease. Then they say "it's riskier for me to get a vaccine then to get the disease."

What they don't understand is that getting vaccinated reduces everyone's risk of both disease and mortality. It's not just about you, it's part of your civic duty to help other people. If you have reached a level of selfishness that you can't even get a vaccine to help other people, you should start your own country and live on your own.

is it also my civic duty to get the flu vaccine every year to avoid infecting the very few old people I come across during the year?

My god you people just shut up

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KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...

Are you allergic to brain cells to??

Hey egg-lergies are nothing to scoff at

Apparently

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Awakened_Link posted...

This. I'm normally pro-vax, except when it comes to this.

And tagging someone as an anti-vaxxer is creepy and dystopian af.

peach brother, peach!

inTaCtfuL posted...

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VTBM posted...

My god you people just shut up

No, you anti vaxxers aren't shamed enough as it is.

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ROOTFayth posted...

is it also my civic duty to get the flu vaccine every year to avoid infecting the very few old people I come across during the year?

Yes. Tens of thousands die yearly in the US to flu and millions are miserable for several days.

Get your fucking shot.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

92 million so far in the US?

Canada is around 2.2. Fucking pathetic.

Not saying we are doing a great job battling this but canadas population is a mere fraction of ours so not really great for comparison. Think in highschool I was taught their population was 1/8th of the united states.

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pikachupwnage posted...

Yes. Tens of thousands die yearly in the US to flu and millions are miserable for several days.

Get your fucking shot.

I got the covid vaccine but I dont get the flu shot. Past couple of times I did I got the flu any damn way. Where as without it I cant remember the last time I had it.

That's the nice thing about the covid vaccine. There is 0 chance it will give you covid.

As far as side effects all I got was my arm hurt so bad the pain was comparable to a broken bone and despite nowhere else on me being sweaty and being bare foot my soles wouldnt stop sweating. Dude who gave me the shot said 90% of people end up with side affects but they so greatly vary from person to person he couldnt say what to expect.

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FLOUR posted...

So I take it she died for the collective good? RIP

First of all yes if it's the case that would be true. We expect people to take risks all the time for society and take risks all the time for convenience, pleasure or just living.

Even if it was the vaccine the chance of death is absurdly low. Lower then many things she likely did daily or in the recent past. Lower then many things expected of her by society. Several magnitudes lower then the chance of death by covid or even the average flu.

But second it's not proven to be the vaccine and likely wasn't.

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If you want to go with statistics instead of biology... if everyone in the USA got the vaccine, a few hundred people at most would die from the vaccine.

If everyone in the USA got Covid, millions would die. Quite a big difference aint it?

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I got the covid vaccine but I dont get the flu shot. Past couple of times I did I got the flu any damn way. Where as without it I cant remember the last time I had it.

That's the nice thing about the covid vaccine. There is 0 chance it will give you covid.

As far as side effects all I got was my arm hurt so bad the pain was comparable to a broken bone and despite nowhere else on me being sweaty and being bare foot my soles wouldnt stop sweating. Dude who gave me the shot said 90% of people end up with side affects but they so greatly vary from person to person he couldnt say what to expect.

"The Flu" is a terrible thing to call it and I wish we would stop even as I am repeatedly guilty of it.

There is no singular flu and there is no vaccine that prevents every single one. The vaccine simply inoculates against several common or expected to be common flus for the season. It's like a good bug trap. It won't work on every type of pest but it's still well worth the effort if it stops or diminishes several of them.

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pikachupwnage posted...

"The Flu" is a terrible thing to call it and I wish we would stop even as I am repeatedly guilty of it.

There is no singular flu and there is no vaccine that prevents every single one. The vaccine simply inoculates against several common or expected to be common flus for the season. It's like a good bug trap. It won't work on every type of pest but it's still well worth the effort if it stops or diminishes several of them.

I mispoke. I meant the vaccine itself gave me the damn flu.

I social distance naturally anyways. I go to work and the grocery store. So yeah not doing flu shots every year. This however is a pandemic. That changes things for me.

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Anti vaxxer. Grandfather of tthe woman got his second shot.

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I dont even remember the last time I got a flu shot, nor do I think many others, and if covid becomes a yearly thing, people will eventually view it the same.

Especially once media finally decides to drop it and the mask mandate is lifted.

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Prismsblade posted...

I dont even remember the last time I got a flu shot, nor do I think many others, and if covid becomes a yearly thing, people will eventually view it the same.

Especially once media finally decides to drop it and the mask mandate is lifted.

I would assume our immune systems would eventually adapt to where it became not much worse than the flu if it truly doesnt go away.

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Nikra posted...

The problem with scientists/experts is that they are all for sale for the highest bidders.
You can't trust any of their statements.

You can take that logical fallacy and shove it up where the sun don't shine

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I would assume our immune systems would eventually adapt to where it became not much worse than the flu if it truly doesnt go away.

Just like we did for polio, right?

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Nikra posted...

People just don't trust the officials anymore. For a good reason.

That reason being Dunning-Kruger

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MAGAs/anti vaxxers are so fucking stupid and their stupidity is a detement to the rest of us

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Vaccines should be mandatory for all non-allergic citizens. Fuck anti-vaxxers. I wasn't like this pre-COVID but these fucking idiots don't understand how the world works and refuse to argue in good faith. Fuck their feelings, get a shot and have a basic sense of civic duty. Imagine telling the GI Generation "uhhh i took the freedom you saved so I could fuck over other people."


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mooreandrew58 posted...

I meant the vaccine itself gave me the damn flu.

lol it literally doesn't work this way

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You've convinced me.

I'm getting mine tomorrow.

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Zikten posted...

Just got it.

Glad to hear it.

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https://www.gofundme.com/f/kassidi-kurill-medical-and-funeral-expenses

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Correlation does not equal causation

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Zero_Destroyer posted...

Vaccines should be mandatory for all non-allergic citizens.

I think this is a bad idea as it's just going to play into the hands of anti-vaxxers. "Look, the government are making you take this vaccine - ask yourself why!"

Trelve posted...

I think this is a bad idea as it's just going to play into the hands of anti-vaxxers. "Look, the government are making you take this vaccine - ask yourself why!"

Solution: Make being anti-vax punishable with life without parole.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

I mispoke. I meant the vaccine itself gave me the damn flu.

Bullshit.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

Scientists say you're immunity window after getting it is about 2 months so ok.

also this is false. New studies have shown immunity lasts between 8 months to a year and a half now in 99% of subjects.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I mispoke. I meant the vaccine itself gave me the damn flu.

Biologically impossible.

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The23rdMagus posted...

Biologically impossible.

But his feelings

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Vaccines should be mandatory for all non-allergic citizens.

In a perfect world, yes. My main gripe is how do you determine in advance who would be allergic? Like how do you know if you're allergic to peanut butter before ever trying it? By then though it might be too late.

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Jeez don't they do a health pre-screen before taking the vaccine, to make sure you don't die from the vaccine?

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FLOUR posted...

Vaccines should be mandatory for all non-allergic citizens.

In a perfect world, yes. My main gripe is how do you determine in advance who would be allergic? Like how do you know if you're allergic to peanut butter before ever trying it? By then though it might be too late.

You can actually tested for many allergies.

R_Jackal posted...

You can actually tested for many allergies.

That's also insanely expensive

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Irony posted...

R_Jackal posted...

You can actually tested for many allergies.

That's also insanely expensive

Roughly $800 and you get to walk around looking like a heroin addict for a week or two as an added bonus.
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harley2280 posted...

Roughly $800 and you get to walk around looking like a heroin addict for a week or two as an added bonus.

Only if you go for rare allergies. Common and life threatening ones, my test was about 150. Still pricey but not bad.

How I found out I was allergic to bee stings.

R_Jackal posted...

harley2280 posted...

Roughly $800 and you get to walk around looking like a heroin addict for a week or two as an added bonus.

Only if you go for rare allergies. Common and life threatening ones, my test was about 150. Still pricey but not bad.

How I found out I was allergic to bee stings.

Yeah. I was having some massive sinus issues so they ran a full spectrum of things.

Turned out it wasn't allergies at all, and I wasn't even constantly congested like I thought. My septum was diagonal and I literally couldn't breathe out of one side.
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shockthemonkey posted...

lmao anti-vaxxers dont want anyone to know theyre plague rats

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Why is this topic not locked?

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harley2280 posted...

Roughly $800 and you get to walk around looking like a heroin addict for a week or two as an added bonus.

I got that test. One site totally flared up but the medical practitioner was gone so long that it died down. My medical plan would not let me get retested. And the marks healed fast. I still wore a long sleeved shirt.


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