Poll of the Day > 12 y/o Texas Kid Commits SUICIDE as his Dad blames COVID-19 for his Death!!!

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mrduckbear
02/11/21 7:24:15 PM
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Do you think that picture of the dad smiling in front of his son's grave was inappropriate?


A family in Aledo, Texas are opening up on the about the loss of their 12 y/o son and brother who committed suicide on April 12 after his 8 y/o SISTER found him hanging in his room as it is revealed he was feeling lonely because of COVID-19 lockdown!!

Hayden Hunstable showed no signs of depression when the world went into lockdown back in April as his sister, Kinlee found him dead in his room

His death came shortly after he, his dad and his grandfather worked to fix the waterin their home.

Brad, the siblings father, attempted to perform CPR but he could not be saved as he blames the global pandemic and the LOCKDOWN for taking his son's life

Brad said "Covid killed my son. I think Hayden would still be alive today if COVID never happened"

He described Hayden has being social who loved football and said "I had no idea he was struggling or depressed, he was such a happy kid and loved his friends and family. But Covid is a perfect storm for suicide and depression. I think everything just got on top of him, he felt overwhelmed and he made a tragic decision. My daughter ran downstairs and said Hayden hung himself. I ran up there, pulled him down and tried to save him. I performed CPR but i couldn't save him. He was gone. I saw something horrific that day and i don't wish it upon anybody. i still get nightmares about it".

He said Hayden couldn't get used to virtual learning and that he may have been trigered after breaking a new computer monitor as he didn't know if he was scared of gettin ginto trouble for breaking it as he may have done it out of impulsive anger

He has now launched Hayden's corner, an organization dedicated to bringing awareness to parents and children alike on mental health issues

He now says he is a mission to solve youth suicide and parents need to have conversations with their kids about their feelings and hopes now that Hayden is a hero to the world, he can do him justice with this

Do you think that picture of him smiling on his son's grave was inappropriate?

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ReturnOfFa
02/11/21 7:32:14 PM
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idk parents like this always overexplain everything, and I feel like they never made themselves actually approachable to talk to about real emotions. Of course, I am drawing from allegorical evidence, but I know many people who found their parents unapproachable for emotional counsel. The "hey bud, it's all good, forget about it!" approach.

The picture is goofed, but at least the guy seems overtly earnest in fundraising for youth suicide.

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Shadowbird_RH
02/11/21 7:36:12 PM
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"I had no idea he was struggling or depressed"

Now that's sad. Imagine struggling with life closing in on you like that, and your own dad has no idea.

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Nichtcrawler X
02/11/21 7:39:29 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
Now that's sad. Imagine struggling with life closing in on you like that, and your own dad has no idea.

Do not victim blame the father or any parent. Depressed individuals can be very good at hiding it and most parents are not trained psychologists.

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Zeus
02/11/21 7:43:13 PM
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Yeah, that victim-blaming is all kinds of gross and offensive. And it's common for people to be surprised when a loved one takes their own life. Most people can't predict that shit.

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party_animal07
02/11/21 7:45:49 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Do not victim blame the father or any parent. Depressed individuals can be very good at hiding it and most parents are not trained psychologists.
Seriously. I went through depression in 8th grade going into high school and didn't realize well into adulthood. I, like a lot of parents, just attributed it to puberty.

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BlackScythe0
02/11/21 7:46:12 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
"I had no idea he was struggling or depressed"

Now that's sad. Imagine struggling with life closing in on you like that, and your own dad has no idea.
This is a wildly inappropriate comment.
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Shadowbird_RH
02/11/21 7:48:44 PM
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Yeah, I guess I'm wrong. It's not his fault. He did everything he should have done. There's no fault here. It's a random tragedy and there's no important lesson to learn from it. Nothing about this suggests families should be closer and more social, to help each other through difficult times when critical social interaction is so lacking. Sorry everyone.

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Yellow
02/11/21 7:53:12 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
Do you think that picture of him smiling on his son's grave was inappropriate?
@mrduckbear No but your attitude is highly inappropriate, which is typical

By all means he seems like a nice guy and it seems like you don't like him because he's a stereotypical football dad

Seriously, he never even said he disagreed with the lockdown, he just said it was hard on people, which it is. -_-

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Yellow
02/11/21 8:01:14 PM
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That picture is just about the saddest thing I've ever seen btw.

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Krow_Incarnate
02/11/21 8:40:07 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
Yeah, I guess I'm wrong. It's not his fault. He did everything he should have done. There's no fault here. It's a random tragedy and there's no important lesson to learn from it. Nothing about this suggests families should be closer and more social, to help each other through difficult times when critical social interaction is so lacking. Sorry everyone.
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Decoy77
02/11/21 8:41:38 PM
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I mean the Govt when using it to hurt Trump was calling all sorts of crazy deaths covid related so why not go with this one too?

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Yellow
02/11/21 9:00:41 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
to hurt Trump
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BlackScythe0
02/11/21 9:12:33 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
Yeah, I guess I'm wrong. It's not his fault. He did everything he should have done. There's no fault here. It's a random tragedy and there's no important lesson to learn from it. Nothing about this suggests families should be closer and more social, to help each other through difficult times when critical social interaction is so lacking. Sorry everyone.

Nah it's just like this might be the first time you've ever seen an article about suicide. Someone who is depressed generally doesn't want to make people worry. You're trying to blame the dad and that really isn't fair. Yea we definitely fail as a nation when it comes to mental health but what you said is very unfair.
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wwinterj25
02/11/21 11:21:56 PM
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The kid feeling lonely was the issue and no doubt contributed to depression that made this young lad take his own life. Lockdown or COVID isn't to blame here.

Shadowbird_RH posted...
Now that's sad. Imagine struggling with life closing in on you like that, and your own dad has no idea.

Some people are good at hiding their mental illnesses. You pass people in the street and to you they probably seem "normal" but in reality who knows? Mental illnesses are not always visible.

Shadowbird_RH posted...
Sorry everyone.

It always amuses me when some big mouth perches like they understand mental health by showing their ignorance. You've no idea how close this family was or is. You certainly don't understand mental illnesses.

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DocDelicious
02/12/21 5:11:31 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
This is a wildly inappropriate comment.

How is that inappropriate? It's perfectly reasonable.

Clearly this guy was a shitty father. How do you live in the same house as someone and not know they've been depressed/upset/whatever? How do you spend so little time with your son that he is so lonely he feels he needs to take his own life?

The dad needs to take some responsibility for his son's death.

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LinkPizza
02/12/21 8:10:43 AM
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DocDelicious posted...
How is that inappropriate? It's perfectly reasonable.

Clearly this guy was a shitty father. How do you live in the same house as someone and not know they've been depressed/upset/whatever? How do you spend so little time with your son that he is so lonely he feels he needs to take his own life?

The dad needs to take some responsibility for his son's death.

People are really good ay hiding depression sometimes. And for many people (especially if they haven't been depressed) may not even know what to look for. And it looks like the family spent plenty of time together. Being around people doesn't mean you won't feel lonely... It's not really that hard to understand...
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wwinterj25
02/12/21 8:23:14 AM
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DocDelicious posted...
How is that inappropriate? It's perfectly reasonable.

That has already been explained. Your comment isn't much better too.


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sodium-chloride
02/20/21 1:20:11 PM
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Yeah that's a wildly ignorant comment that the dad was a terrible father because he didn't know his kid was depressed. Had a cousin who committed suicide just after he finished college. Dude was never in a bad mood at any family gathering and was on good terms with all of the cousins aunts and uncles. His parents loved him, he loved his parents, he had siblings who were all close to each other. He was a great musician and found joy out of helping his community.

Then one day he just offs himself and didn't leave a note. Nothing had happened recently to suggest that he was going through something. No one had any idea what the hell he had to have gone through for him to kill himself.

People are EXTREMELY good at hiding their emotions if they are trying to keep up an image or be strong for family/friends. So to say the dad is a shitty father or wasn't involved enough in his kid's life is really fucking shortsighted.
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ReturnOfFa
02/20/21 1:56:24 PM
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Uhhh. I think Shadowbird_RH showed that he can reflect on his statements.

This kind of response to someone saying sorry?

"It always amuses me when some big mouth perches like they understand mental health by showing their ignorance. You've no idea how close this family was or is. You certainly don't understand mental illnesses."

I don't think that shows much respect to mental health or educating others, at all.

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Shadowbird_RH
02/20/21 2:22:11 PM
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sodium-chloride posted...
People are EXTREMELY good at hiding their emotions if they are trying to keep up an image or be strong for family/friends.
So they can. So what? I think the relevant question is why. Why, if you care about your family enough that you would want to protect them from worry, would you subject them to the loss of a loved one? Was the alternative too hard? Why would it be more difficult to talk with his family seeking help or advice to help him get through his difficulty than ending his own life? That just doesn't make sense to me unless the person or persons in question have previously made themselves less than approachable in matters relating to help/advice.

If you've got another reason why that might be without implying than that a person on the brink of ending their own life is too stupid to be expected to seek rational alternatives resolving their problem, or that I'm a horrible ignorant monster for trying to explore a subject that, with better understanding could save more lives, then by all means, I'd like to hear what you have to say.

ReturnOfFa posted...
This kind of response to someone saying sorry?
Honestly, my apology there, I was being extremely sarcastic. I just said that this situation, being so burdened by going through something so insurmountable that you'd even consider taking your own life over it, and your folks are totally ignorant of it, thinking you're the happiest person alive when you're ready to die because you just can't take it anymore, that is very sad, and that's not me being sarcastic or mean, I meant that literally, from a place of sympathy, and I got dogpiled for it! Should be reasonable that I'd be pissed off about that.

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Zeus
02/20/21 2:53:57 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
I just said that this situation, being so burdened by going through something so insurmountable that you'd even consider taking your own life over it, and your folks are totally ignorant of it, thinking you're the happiest person alive when you're ready to die because you just can't take it anymore, that is very sad, and that's not me being sarcastic or mean, I meant that literally, from a place of sympathy, and I got dogpiled for it! Should be reasonable that I'd be pissed off about that.

And you deserve to be fucking dogpiled for it. That was a wildly offensive, profoundly ignorant thing to say. You talk about reasonable, but what could reasonable than criticizing somebody who says something like that? I mean, ffs, man. You were literally victim-blaming the parents of a suicide victim. If anything, people were being gentle.

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ReturnOfFa
02/20/21 2:54:33 PM
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lol

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sodium-chloride
02/20/21 3:10:15 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
So they can. So what? I think the relevant question is why. Why, if you care about your family enough that you would want to protect them from worry, would you subject them to the loss of a loved one? Was the alternative too hard? Why would it be more difficult to talk with his family seeking help or advice to help him get through his difficulty than ending his own life? That just doesn't make sense to me unless the person or persons in question have previously made themselves less than approachable in matters relating to help/advice.

If you've got another reason why that might be without implying than that a person on the brink of ending their own life is too stupid to be expected to seek rational alternatives resolving their problem, or that I'm a horrible ignorant monster for trying to explore a subject that, with better understanding could save more lives, then by all means, I'd like to hear what you have to say.

I don't have any answer or reason because guess what? That's exactly what me and my entire family have been questioning since my cousin killed himself. No one knows WHY he did it. That's why it's so damn frustrating and why you can't blame the family or people close to him.

If we had a good reason for why, people would likely not be committing suicide as often because there'd be a better way to address their issues.

I'm not sure what exactly your point is in this topic. You claimed before that it's the parent/family for failing to understand the suicide victim. Now you're asking why someone would commit suicide before getting help. All that I can conclude is that you're ignorant of the extremely individualized nature of mental illness. It affects everyone differently. Some people can handle it, some people know when to ask for help, some people hide it and pretend their lives are great, and some people succumb to extreme depression and potentially suicide.
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LinkPizza
02/20/21 3:21:02 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
So they can. So what? I think the relevant question is why. Why, if you care about your family enough that you would want to protect them from worry, would you subject them to the loss of a loved one? Was the alternative too hard? Why would it be more difficult to talk with his family seeking help or advice to help him get through his difficulty than ending his own life? That just doesn't make sense to me unless the person or persons in question have previously made themselves less than approachable in matters relating to help/advice.

Because to them, death is an easy way out. It a way to just end it all... And sometimes, even if the family would be happy to help, they may not know that. He was just a kid...

Shadowbird_RH posted...
If you've got another reason why that might be without implying than that a person on the brink of ending their own life is too stupid to be expected to seek rational alternatives resolving their problem, or that I'm a horrible ignorant monster for trying to explore a subject that, with better understanding could save more lives, then by all means, I'd like to hear what you have to say.

If you really wanna know, there are a bunch of videos out there that explain it. I know because I've had to watch them for work. We also have to watch these videos showing signs and how help. The problem is, it's different from person to person. And it can be hard to tell during these times. A lot of people are stuck inside and bored. And boredom and sadness can look pretty similar at times. Maybe when they saw him sad and asked what was wrong, he just said he was bored, then went to do something. I can't tell you since I wasn't there, though. I just know that people can hide their emotions. And sometimes, this is what happens. It's been happening on base often lately...
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Shadowbird_RH
02/20/21 4:44:13 PM
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Feels like it's a problem that's ingrained into the very fabric of our society, like we need to find better ways to live and interact with one another. Hits especially close to home since I myself have always been very asocial. It brings to mind the idea that being friendlier and more open, being more willing to give people time, understanding, and acceptance, could be more important than one might realize before it's too late, but if we can learn from past mistakes, then future tragedies can be prevented.

That's why I don't like saying that it's nobody's fault. If there's at least some idea of why something happened, then there may be an invaluable lesson to be learned that can help people. Never in this topic did I say anything with the intention of pointing a finger in ridicule or condemnation. Rather, I believe mistakes, faults if you'd prefer, are opportunities to find better ways, and that it's especially important to make the most of those opportunities when the cost is so high.

sodium-chloride, my condolences for your cousin. I hope your family finds some kind of closure some day.
LinkPizza, I wish you and those with you the best in helping one another manage well situation you're in.

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Raddest_Chad
02/20/21 5:42:31 PM
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Everyone handles death differently. Him smiling doesn't indicate he's happy his son died. Maybe he just wants a positive photograph with the grave to try to make the best of a horrible situation?

And it's not always super easy for people to tell when others are going through stuff. It depends on who is involved (like how reserved they maybe are, day to day). 12 is a pretty awkward age and kids are sort of a hormonal mess from about then until adulthood. It's just a crappy situation.
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