Poll of the Day > My Ted Cruz hex is working

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CarefreeDude
02/18/21 5:54:19 PM
#51:


Jen0125 posted...
I only know how to use my powers for evil

Uhhh frame my request in such a way it makes that me having electricity is evil. Like uh "further expel greenhouse gases by providing me with power"

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Zareth
02/18/21 6:10:18 PM
#52:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Apparently he booked a flight back and the story they're going with is "he always planned to return immediately he was just spending the night with his family".
I don't know about you but I always pack a few suitcases full whenever I go to spend one night with my family somewhere.

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Jen0125
02/18/21 6:11:34 PM
#53:


Zareth posted...
I don't know about you but I always pack a few suitcases full whenever I go to spend one night with my family somewhere.

This has already been debunked

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shadowsword87
02/18/21 6:11:35 PM
#54:


Entity13 posted...
Seriously, and I will repeat this take for a while:

A reasonable human being would have looked at the storm and the needs of other people, and either canceled the first flight altogether, or use whatever connections necessary to send one lucky family somewhere warm for the weekend while said reasonable person helped take care of everyone affected by the storm.

However, if reasonable people were in charge of Texas, it would have better precautions to keep its infrastructure running, rather than cutting corners on proper materials (lubrication, turbine heating, or cold-appropriate metals) just because "lol Texas so hot" and avarice combined. The people of Texas deserve better than this nonsense, and Cruz's flight highlights this utterly.

The annoying thing, right now, is that I'm trying to look up exactly what the failure points are in a wind turbine with the cold weather with it, and I can think of a few things, but, not that much.

The metal shrinking could cause issues with the wings, but, that's a design issue that should be standard across all wind turbines, not just cold ones and not-cold ones.
The grease and oil could gunk up, not fully freeze, but, slow things down. Oil freezes at a much lower temperature than water, and you can get some super simple stuff to inject in the oil to prepare them for temps lowering. Mass-buying and applying new lubricant is kinda stupid.

Ice buildup is the biggest issue, you can cause serious damage if you apply weight to a windfoil at the wrong position. The mathematics is actually unknown how much ice is acceptable, vs how much isn't, fluid dynamics is horrifically complicated and the failure condition of a windmill snapping off a wing, or an airplane snapping off a wing, is more or less unacceptable to just shrug and move on. It's actually a big issue because planes wings are sprayed off with chemicals that are awful for the environment any time they get ice.

Installing a heating system in a wind turbine in texas is... kinda stupid. Not going to lie. When this happens, they just need to be de-iced, and it takes a bit. If the other systems on the grid are robust enough, it should be able to handle the additional strain. But, it looks like the propane has gone down from the temperature, and, a nuclear power plant had to go offline for saftey reasons as well.

When you'e skirting the edge of what's acceptable, and something bad happens, yeah, this is what you expect to happen. I'm not sure what they thought would happen, maybe they were out of office when it was going to hit, or something?
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Zareth
02/18/21 6:14:09 PM
#55:


Jen0125 posted...
This has already been debunked
That was sarcasm

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Blightzkrieg
02/18/21 6:23:42 PM
#56:


Zareth posted...
I don't know about you but I always pack a few suitcases full whenever I go to spend one night with my family somewhere.
Wanted to pack up a few victims and remind people the zodiac is still out there

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Entity13
02/18/21 6:31:39 PM
#57:


shadowsword87 posted...
When you'e skirting the edge of what's acceptable, and something bad happens, yeah, this is what you expect to happen. I'm not sure what they thought would happen, maybe they were out of office when it was going to hit, or something?

They were doing what bureaucrats and politicians do best. They were cutting corners they thought they could get away with, making plans to make themselves nice and comfy, and then kicking around the debris when the plan doesn't work all the while blaming other people.

shadowsword87 posted...
The metal shrinking could cause issues with the wings, but, that's a design issue that should be standard across all wind turbines, not just cold ones and not-cold ones.
The grease and oil could gunk up, not fully freeze, but, slow things down. Oil freezes at a much lower temperature than water, and you can get some super simple stuff to inject in the oil to prepare them for temps lowering. Mass-buying and applying new lubricant is kinda stupid.

Ice buildup is the biggest issue, you can cause serious damage if you apply weight to a windfoil at the wrong position. The mathematics is actually unknown how much ice is acceptable, vs how much isn't, fluid dynamics is horrifically complicated and the failure condition of a windmill snapping off a wing, or an airplane snapping off a wing, is more or less unacceptable to just shrug and move on. It's actually a big issue because planes wings are sprayed off with chemicals that are awful for the environment any time they get ice.

Considering how many of Denmark's wind turbines are out in the ocean, and they have far less in the way of issues? I'm sure the math exists, and countries that are not the US have access to said math.

That said, I do recall, but fail to have a resource on hand, that properly made and lubricated turbines can stand temps between -4 and -100 degrees (depending on pressure from air and wind in addition to frequency of maintenance). With that in mind, along with what I recall of the properties of metal, this sort of build would have been fine in warmer climates as well. However, I'm sure the people in charge saw this as being too pricey, so they went with the cheapest steel or metals they could use, and the typically hot weather of Texas was nothing more than a poor excuse to cover for just not wanting to spend a few (thousand?) dollars more on something that would actually function and last.

shadowsword87 posted...
Installing a heating system in a wind turbine in texas is... kinda stupid. Not going to lie. When this happens, they just need to be de-iced, and it takes a bit. If the other systems on the grid are robust enough, it should be able to handle the additional strain. But, it looks like the propane has gone down from the temperature, and, a nuclear power plant had to go offline for saftey reasons as well.

A year-round system? Sure. But precautionary packets in readily accessible storage--think boxes of Christmas lights and decorations in a garage, but orderly due to regulations--to set up whenever the signs are pointing to time to put up such measures? Come on. That is always something to prepare for, even if you don't think you need it 97% of the time.

It's like safety equipment in any grocery store. You can hope to not have to use it very often, and some parts of that equipment might even see minimal use over the course of a year or three, but having said equipment is a must. You can have some top-tier chefs working for your deli or bakery and expect they won't need to worry about cutting themselves often, which is a laughable take to have with cooks in general, but cutting gloves are still necessary to have and to wear.

Back to this, well, Texas is only so warm or hot most of the time, and yet it does have its bursts of cold, its occasional snow. Proper equipment and measures exist, with all of the math and procedures tied to them after so many years of colder regions testing them, so the answer should have been to invest in those packets and maintain them, because chances are that such cost would have been lower than what Texas now faces in trying to help its own people.

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shadowsword87
02/18/21 6:54:56 PM
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Entity13 posted...
Considering how many of Denmark's wind turbines are out in the ocean, and they have far less in the way of issues? I'm sure the math exists, and countries that are not the US have access to said math.

The difference is maintenance I'm positive. The thing is, the ocean is actually just the fucking worst when dealing with in terms of design. The mixture of water, which is way more devastating than you imagine, and salt, which corrodes stupid fast, plus any lifeforms that want to poke around. Ocean windmills are kinda the worst of both worlds, it's hard to get to, and you need to apply maintenance more during it.

According to this random website, they expect them to only last 20 years, and you're looking at between 1.5% and 2% of maintenance of the initial cost, per year. The only reason why it's a good investment is because of the economy of scale that they put into it, you can dabble in solar power pretty easily (that's why we have consumer grade solar panels you can install for your house), and ground wind turbines just require space and someone to drive out to it.
http://xn--drmstrre-64ad.dk/wp-content/wind/miller/windpower%20web/en/tour/econ/oandm.htm

Entity13 posted...
That said, I do recall, but fail to have a resource on hand, that properly made and lubricated turbines can stand temps between -4 and -100 degrees (depending on pressure from air and wind in addition to frequency of maintenance).

Yeah, and I'm sure some chemical engineer found a temporary additive to add to the lube to make it handle things better. I assume that's what they did, because, we don't hear about the gears gumming up at all. Chemical additives can do some wild things.

Entity13 posted...
A year-round system? Sure. But precautionary packets in readily accessible storage--think boxes of Christmas lights and decorations in a garage, but orderly due to regulations--to set up whenever the signs are pointing to time to put up such measures? Come on. That is always something to prepare for, even if you don't think you need it 97% of the time.

The precaution is to shut it down temporarily. That's what they did. They need to be safely de-iced, and you can't safely run them while they have ice on them.

The logic I'm struggling with is "well just by the more expensive ones 4head", when that isn't always the best solution. I can't find a price difference in them, but, I imagine it's pretty significant. To heat it up, you need to have wiring along the outer edge of the wings, and then pump a bunch of energy in it. Wind turbines are much larger than people expect, so the entire surface area being wired up isn't something to scoff at. If you expect to do that every month, or so, in the winter, that's a totally reasonable precaution to buy. If you expect to use it once every 20 years? Well, that's not immediately clear, and I think it's reasonable to say that that additional element isn't needed.

Entity13 posted...
Back to this, well, Texas is only so warm or hot most of the time, and yet it does have its bursts of cold, its occasional snow. Proper equipment and measures exist, with all of the math and procedures tied to them after so many years of colder regions testing them, so the answer should have been to invest in those packets and maintain them, because chances are that such cost would have been lower than what Texas now faces in trying to help its own people.

There are a billion better ways of going about this, yeah.
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Revelation34
02/18/21 7:54:59 PM
#59:


Jen0125 posted...
https://twitter.com/ByERussell/status/1362447404310609921?s=19

Lmao his alibi is busted


All that shows is today's date posted by somebody who doesn't even have a blue check mark.

shadowsword87 posted...


The annoying thing, right now, is that I'm trying to look up exactly what the failure points are in a wind turbine with the cold weather with it, and I can think of a few things, but, not that much.

The metal shrinking could cause issues with the wings, but, that's a design issue that should be standard across all wind turbines, not just cold ones and not-cold ones.
The grease and oil could gunk up, not fully freeze, but, slow things down. Oil freezes at a much lower temperature than water, and you can get some super simple stuff to inject in the oil to prepare them for temps lowering. Mass-buying and applying new lubricant is kinda stupid.

Ice buildup is the biggest issue, you can cause serious damage if you apply weight to a windfoil at the wrong position. The mathematics is actually unknown how much ice is acceptable, vs how much isn't, fluid dynamics is horrifically complicated and the failure condition of a windmill snapping off a wing, or an airplane snapping off a wing, is more or less unacceptable to just shrug and move on. It's actually a big issue because planes wings are sprayed off with chemicals that are awful for the environment any time they get ice.

Installing a heating system in a wind turbine in texas is... kinda stupid. Not going to lie. When this happens, they just need to be de-iced, and it takes a bit. If the other systems on the grid are robust enough, it should be able to handle the additional strain. But, it looks like the propane has gone down from the temperature, and, a nuclear power plant had to go offline for saftey reasons as well.

When you'e skirting the edge of what's acceptable, and something bad happens, yeah, this is what you expect to happen. I'm not sure what they thought would happen, maybe they were out of office when it was going to hit, or something?


No it isn't. They should all be installed with one for emergency situations.
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shadowsword87
02/18/21 8:01:38 PM
#60:


Revelation34 posted...
No it isn't. They should all be installed with one for emergency situations.

I live in Michigan.
A hurrican is an "emergency situation", should I prepare my eventual house to handle hurricanes? It's quite rare for one to reach all the way over to me, I just get some bad rainstorms when they do go near me.

Or, should I tailor my "emergency situation" preparedness to my local environment (tornadoes and floods), and have minor preparations for an overall emergency?
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Far-Queue
02/18/21 10:44:07 PM
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lmao so this fucking absolute chud got busted being a shithead, threw his own daughters under the bus trying to make up some bullshit excuse, then got caught lying when someone leaked text messages from the family

What a fucking useless scumbag. He doesn't defend his wife and parents from Trump's derision, and uses his daughters as a scapegoat lie to try and cover up his dickheadedness. Real family man and true class act

The GOP is chock fucking full of fucking corrupt morons lmao

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Entity13
02/18/21 10:59:47 PM
#62:


At the very least I hope his family disowns him, his wife divorces him with a mighty fine claim for his estate and belongings, and that he loses big as a result. At this point they're just enabling his sociopathic habits, otherwise.

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Mead
02/18/21 11:01:50 PM
#63:


I just think it would be great if Ted Cruz got kicked really hard in the nuts

hed roll around in agony after and it would be hilarious for the entire nation

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Jen0125
02/19/21 9:08:41 AM
#64:


https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-went-jamaica-july-4-flouting-health-guidelines-wapo-2021-2

Damn this hex is working overtime

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Blightzkrieg
02/19/21 9:28:04 AM
#65:


he be cruzin for a bruisin

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Cacciato
02/19/21 11:59:55 AM
#66:


Jen0125 posted...
https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-went-jamaica-july-4-flouting-health-guidelines-wapo-2021-2

Damn this hex is working overtime
The end of that article is fucking brutal.

Twitter has to be one of the greatest political tools Ive ever seen just because it documents every hypocritical, dumbass tweet a politician puts out.
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Jen0125
02/22/21 12:14:11 PM
#67:


https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-texas-congressman-slams-ted-cruz-for-cancun- trip-2021-2

Just dropping off my kids and old college roommate in Cancun totally normal

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Jen0125
02/23/21 7:06:58 AM
#68:


https://www.salon.com/2021/02/22/now-ted-cruz-may-be-buying-his-own-books-through-a-mystery-company/

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Blightzkrieg
02/23/21 9:28:10 AM
#69:


ted is an ancient and unknowable entity and it is foolish to meddle in his affairs

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Jen0125
02/23/21 9:42:06 AM
#70:


Blightzkrieg posted...
ted is an ancient and unknowable entity and it is foolish to meddle in his affairs

Well call me a fool then because it's already been meddled

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Blightzkrieg
02/23/21 9:45:08 AM
#71:


You will soon find yourself Teddled

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Jen0125
02/23/21 9:49:32 AM
#72:


Sounds like a police matter

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Mead
02/23/21 11:01:44 AM
#73:


For real though why are he and a bunch of other politicians just not being held accountable at all for trying to overturn democracy

it blew up in their faces and now theyre all like just kidding lol and pretending it didnt happen

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Jen0125
02/23/21 11:04:11 AM
#74:


Mead posted...
For real though why are he and a bunch of other politicians just not being held accountable at all for trying to overturn democracy

it blew up in their faces and now theyre all like just kidding lol and pretending it didnt happen

Because they make and enforce the rules. Who will hold them accountable? The Dems don't want to do it in case they ever want to steal any dirty tricks.

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BlazeAndBlade
02/23/21 11:33:50 AM
#75:


Who do you voodoo?

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Jen0125
02/23/21 11:47:00 AM
#76:


BlazeAndBlade posted...
Who do you voodoo?

Anyone I want!

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