Poll of the Day > The House case for impeachment is so powerful

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OhhhJa posted...

Literally nothing trump said at that rally is speech that isn't constitutionally protected by the first amendment. And if questioning the results of an election is gonna be considered seditious... is that really a precedent you guys wanna set? Because you're forging a direct path to our government throwing you in jail for questioning the legitimacy of an election. And if that's the case, anyone who said Russia manipulated the election or questioned the electoral college system the last 4 years also would be a seditionist by that same criteria. Do we really wanna give the government the power to jail people for questioning an election? Think about that carefully before you decide that you wanna stick it to the people on "the other team"

Nobody can think far enough to when the shoe is on the other foot. Many of the same people that were cheering on the de-personing of people like Alex Jones, Milo, and Trump and championing "why don't you make your own services" and then also cheered when alternative platforms were shut down were the very same ones up in arms when Robinhood shut down trading on GME.

All of a sudden, there was a teachable moment there and they shook for a second and went right back to towing the line having learned nothing.

Don't waste your time trying to point it out.

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OhhhJa posted...

Literally nothing trump said at that rally is speech that isn't constitutionally protected by the first amendment. And if questioning the results of an election is gonna be considered seditious... is that really a precedent you guys wanna set? Because you're forging a direct path to our government throwing you in jail for questioning the legitimacy of an election. And if that's the case, anyone who said Russia manipulated the election or questioned the electoral college system the last 4 years also would be a seditionist by that same criteria. Do we really wanna give the government the power to jail people for questioning an election? Think about that carefully before you decide that you wanna stick it to the people on "the other team"

??? do you understand what an impeachment trial is?

WhiskeyDisk posted...

and then also cheered when alternative platforms were shut down were the very same ones up in arms when Robinhood shut down trading on GME.

This was a funny lack of self awareness that happened with the left. Constantly using the private company argument to defend big tech squashing out their competition and silencing people while being up in arms about the robinhood gamestop situation

BlackScythe0 posted...

??? do you understand what an impeachment trial is?

Yes, it's pretty straightforward

OhhhJa posted...

Yes, it's pretty straightforward

And yet you made a post from a point of view that indicates you don't have the slightest idea of what is going on.

BlackScythe0 posted...

And yet you made a post from a point of view that indicates you don't have the slightest idea of what is going on.

OhhhJa posted...

This was a funny lack of self awareness that happened with the left. Constantly using the private company argument to defend big tech squashing out their competition and silencing people while being up in arms about the robinhood gamestop situation

I tried pointing it out in real time and all I got was people performatively missing the entire point.

Like I said, you can only lead a horse to water, but they'd rather die of dehydration if it means they think they're winning now. If you've lived for more than 25 years, you've seen the pendulum swing and know the shoe is always going to end up on the other foot.

It's like watching the kids arguing that Dubya should have been tried at the Hague for war crimes, like any administration would open the door to being second guessed in that way after the fact. Obama would have had to be held to the same standard.

Yet here we are impeaching the last president after he's left office.

Revisionist history has gotten to this point. But only revising 4 years at a time.

I'm dying to see if Biden/Harris will be held to the same standard after the fact.

If sending Hunter to China to negotiate a private equity deal on Air Force 2 is any indication, I'm guessing not.


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OhhhJa posted...

Do we really wanna give the government the power to jail people for questioning an election?

No we want to jail people for inciting and performing a terrorist attack on the Capitol. It's pretty obvious.

And Trump isn't at risk of going to jail. He's been impeached and is at risk of not being able to hold public office again. Do you even know what is going on? Or are you too far down the q-hole?

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Also farmers rise up

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Watching two washed up mediocre q-anons jerk each other off in this topic is the least sexy thing I have seen in a long time

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I like how all of the normal people stopped posting when Ziggi and his multiple personalities started trolling the thread.
(I was also asleep)

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Jen0125 posted...

Watching two washed up mediocre q-anons jerk each other off in this topic is the least sexy thing I have seen in a long time

lmao they're so pathetic

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farmers!

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The real problem is that the whole impeachment and removal process was blundered by the founders.

i get the impeachment process, but the trial should be held and decided by the US Supreme Court as the justices are free from political influence, unlike senators and congressmen.

imo - impeachment articles should have to be passed by simple majority in the House and senate then the removal tried beforE the us Supreme Court.

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Conner4REAL posted...

The real problem is that the whole impeachment and removal process was blundered by the founders.

i get the impeachment process, but the trial should be held and decided by the US Supreme Court as the justices are free from political influence, unlike senators and congressmen.

imo - impeachment articles should have to be passed by simple majority in the House and senate then the removal tried beforE the us Supreme Court.

I think the only time the SC is involved is if it's a sitting president. Since McConnell delayed the trial til he was gone, they couldn't have SCJ preside.

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Jen0125 posted...

I think the only time the SC is involved is if it's a sitting president. Since McConnell delayed the trial til he was gone, they couldn't have SCJ preside.

Im saying what the founding fathers should have written as the process.

or what we should try to amend the process to be.

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Conner4REAL posted...

Im saying what the founding fathers should have written as the process.

or what we should try to amend the process to be.

Yes, I was just adding some more context in case others didn't know

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Judgmenl posted...

I like how all of the normal people stopped posting when Ziggi and his multiple personalities started trolling the thread.
(I was also asleep)

It's really not terribly amusing to try holding a discussion with people who have no clue what is going on. I tried, gave him the opportunity to indicate he had any clue what was going on but he never stepped away from his bizarre unrelated "prison" talk.

Jen0125 posted...

No we want to jail people for inciting and performing a terrorist attack on the Capitol. It's pretty obvious.

And Trump isn't at risk of going to jail. He's been impeached and is at risk of not being able to hold public office again. Do you even know what is going on? Or are you too far down the q-hole?

I've always thought qanon was stupid. Turns out stupid people are the ones who have to pigeonhole people into little boxes (fox News, qanon, etc). It helps you understand things I guess

I'll just say we're really lowering the bar on what is inciting a riot. If trump is guilty of this then so are Schumer, Pelosi, and countless other politicians over the past year. Anyway, this is gonna end with trump being let off by the senate and more crying from your side of the aisle because you don't want trump out of your news cycle. Bunch of pathetic little crybaby children lmao

OhhhJa posted...

I've always thought qanon was stupid

as a gay black man

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He gathered a crowd of thousands, told them to march to the capitol and said

If you dont fight like hell, youre not gonna have a country anymore

Its on video dozens of people in the crowd exclaiming bewilderment when they face resistance by police because the president told us to do this!

Its an open and shut case. No argument about some fictional technicality is going to change the facts.

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So why isn't this considered treason?

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CarefreeDude posted...

So why isn't this considered treason?

Well the crime of treason is very specific in the US, it requires you to give material aid to a nation we are at war with.

Lawyers seem to agree that Trump said just enough stuff to get technicalities to avoid an actual incitement criminal charge. That doesn't have anything to do with impeachment though.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Well the crime of treason is very specific in the US, it requires you to give material aid to a nation we are at war with.

The entire government is guilty

OhhhJa posted...

If trump is guilty of this then so are Schumer, Pelosi, and countless other politicians over the past year.

Did those people instruct their...base(?) to amass on some location for a cause that is based on a lie to fight for them in order to save the country from commie antifa feminists and overthrow democracy? They didn't do shit, and they don't have a cult following like Trump has.

OhhhJa posted...

Anyway, this is gonna end with trump being let off by the senate

Of course it is. Congrats.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

as a gay black man

I've posted multiple times in the past here about how qanon is ridiculous. I've actually said that I believe it's probably a cia psy op. It's textbook controlled opposition and a classic case of discrediting the truth by presenting a cartoon version of it

OhhhJa posted...

The entire government is guilty

"I think qanon is stupid "

Yep

Q is just another internet phenomenon given to the world by the shithole known as 4chan.

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kind9 posted...

Q is just another internet phenomenon given to the world by the shithole known as 4chan.

But in this case people stormed the Capitol and tried to kill our elected officials over this one.

kind9 posted...

Did those people instruct their...base(?) to amass on some location for a cause that is based on a lie to fight for them in order to save the country from commie antifa feminists and overthrow democracy?

I like how you threw that irrelevant bolded part in there because you know that they did in fact do what trump stands accused of

SENATE MINORITY LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER: Inside the walls of this court, the Supreme Court is hearing arguments, as you know, for the first major abortion right cases since Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Gorsuch came to the bench. We know whats at stake. Over the last three years, womens reproductive rights have come under attack in a way we havent seen in modern history. From Louisiana to Missouri to Texas, Republican legislatures are waging a war on women, all women, and theyre taking away fundamental rights. I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You wont know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.

The bottom line is very simple. We will stand with the American people. We will stand with American women. We will tell President Trump and Senate Republicans, who have stacked the court with right-wing ideologues, that youre going to be gone in November, and you will never be able to do what youre trying to do now ever, ever again. You hear that over there on the far right? Youre gone in November.

We are here to send these folks a message, Not on our watch. Let me ask you, my friends, are we going to let Republicans undo a womans right to choose?

BlackScythe0 posted...

But in this case people stormed the Capitol and tried to kill our elected officials over this one.

Yeah it kind of took off didn't it?

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BlackScythe0 posted...

But in this case people stormed the Capitol and tried to kill our elected officials over this one.

Its pure blind luck that they didnt achieve their goal. Thats becoming increasingly evident as more footage is being released.

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https://youtu.be/dETtAESp7uM

So much hypocrisy. It's like an overload of a lack of self awareness

kind9 posted...

Yeah it kind of took off didn't it?

I guess you guys forgot people did riot after his speech about the supreme court

OhhhJa posted...

https://youtu.be/dETtAESp7uM

So much hypocrisy. It's like an overload of a lack of self awareness

why do you always post garbage extreme right wing propaganda

there are less than 1000 views on that, where did you even find it

are you the one who made it


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Ohhhja trying to both sides so hard dude is gonna prolapse

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Mead posted...

Ohhhja trying to both sides so hard dude is gonna prolapse

Can an ear prolapse?

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if you try hard enough probably

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ever heard of cauliflower ear? not exactly a prolapse, but made me think of it.

Lokarin posted...

Can an ear prolapse?

I would like for you to research it and then get back to us on what you find

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OhhhJa posted...

I like how you threw that irrelevant bolded part in there because you know that they did in fact do what trump stands accused of

I fail to see how that's irrelevant. Those people you mentioned have not explicitly instructed the cult they don't have to march on some place for a traitorous false cause. That seems to be the part you don't grasp.

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Off topic but Ted Cruz is doing his best to look like a depressed confederate general nowadays

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Honestly my main issue with this is the fact that they're spending all this time and tax payer money on a guy that's not even president anymore but can't find the time to get stimulus checks that have been promised for weeks

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Are we just going to gloss over how he basically said his issue with qanon isn't what they believe, but that they make what he believes look bad. The optics of qanon is worse to him than their actions. And also that its existence itself is a conspiracy.

Also remember when he "didn't believe" in pizzagate, he just believed there was something weird about what looked to him like pedophile codified emails about pizza, you know the crux of pizzagate

Ask him what obamagate is lol

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OhhhJa posted...

Turns out stupid people are the ones who have to pigeonhole people into little boxes (f

I'm sure you think this is deep. It isn't. Just go away. You have zero credibility here and constantly show yourself to be a truly un-American person who sympathizes with terrorists.

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Even if the CIA created Q you can't possibly believe that all the dumbass boomers (and many others) who believe it are CIA actors too. Does that make it okay to create something like that? Probably not, but the fact that it gained ground just shows what kind of problems we've always had hiding and if it was that easy for people to latch on it really didn't need to be some kind of manufactured conspiracy.

Controlled opposition or deep state shit or whatever also doesn't make sense, as usual. If Trump is their big enemy how did they let him win in 2016? Like who are the various actors in this conspiracy and what's their end goal, cause it sure seems to change every five minutes, I don't get it

Jen0125 posted...

I'm sure you think this is deep. It isn't. Just go away. You have zero credibility here and constantly show yourself to be a truly un-American person who sympathizes with terrorists.

Or is one. With the level of insistence and proliferation of his propaganda, it's hard for me not to consider the possibility that he's not merely stating his opinions/beliefs, but is doing his job.

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Shadowbird_RH posted...

Or is one. With the level of insistence and proliferation of his propaganda, it's hard for me not to consider the possibility that he's not merely stating his opinions/beliefs, but is doing his job.

Yeah, this could be true. Anyone still taking up for Trump, now especially, cannot claim ignorance or good faith dealing.

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Jen0125 posted...

I'm sure you think this is deep. It isn't. Just go away. You have zero credibility here and constantly show yourself to be a truly un-American person who sympathizes with terrorists.

him defending the proud boys as not being a racist white supremacy organization really pointed that one out tbh

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