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Antifar 01/31/21 4:00:52 PM #1: |
Republicans who want a bipartisan deal on coronavirus relief are making a last-ditch effort to turn President Joe Biden away from a party-line approach that would avoid the Senate's supermajority requirement. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/31/biden-senate-republicans-covid-relief-464057 https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1355937422157213703 This is what you offer when you're angling to get rejected. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MonkeyBones23 01/31/21 4:06:02 PM #2: |
So they want to have a bipartisan deal but come to the table with a third of the asking price?
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Antifar 01/31/21 4:06:50 PM #3: |
MonkeyBones23 posted...
So they want to have a bipartisan deal but come to the table with a third of the asking price?That is the story they are going with. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cawmaster5 01/31/21 4:07:54 PM #4: |
b-but democrats are the problem guys
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Doom_Art 01/31/21 4:26:46 PM #5: |
Exactly 10? Well how bout that?
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littlebro07 01/31/21 4:30:52 PM #6: |
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darkprince45 01/31/21 4:34:01 PM #7: |
why would Biden even look at this lol? The dems can just past their own shit at this point right
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CADE FOSTER 01/31/21 6:09:40 PM #8: |
1.9 trillion gavve the wealthy tax cuts Biden and the dems want to help americans with the next 1.9 fuck the gop
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ssjevot 01/31/21 6:19:37 PM #9: |
How cucked do these low income GOP voters need to be at this point to want to get less money just to own the libs?
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BignutzisBack 01/31/21 6:22:48 PM #10: |
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KiwiTerraRizing 01/31/21 6:28:00 PM #11: |
So basically the Republicans offered to pay $20 for a new BMW and then will offer to split the difference in a few weeks and pay $20,000 and act shocked when their completely sincere olive branch *wink* is turned down.
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Halo478 01/31/21 6:30:39 PM #12: |
https://twitter.com/SeanEldridge/status/1355909578735689731
fuck the slimey rat gop dont work with them at all unless they convict Trump --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 01/31/21 6:30:48 PM #13: |
Who are they even trying to play to with this? Rich people?
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Unknown760 01/31/21 6:36:34 PM #14: |
Why does the wealthy even need stimulus money for? Fucking greedy GOP.
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DarkChozoGhost 01/31/21 6:46:40 PM #15: |
Bio1590 posted...
Who are they even trying to play to with this? Rich people?Nobody. They're trying to reduce the impact of the relief to hurt that administration's image. Reducing the 1400 to 1000 is there for the sole purpose of letting them claim democrats broke their promise. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 01/31/21 7:45:57 PM #17: |
shockthemonkey posted...
And they dont expect Dems to take it because they want to claim Biden isnt living up to his bipartisan commitments.Right. The move here is make an offer Democrats have to reject, then criticize them for not living up to Biden's claims about unity. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alexis_Heartly 01/31/21 7:51:08 PM #18: |
This is a much better offer tbqh
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CommonStar 01/31/21 7:55:29 PM #19: |
Maybe Democrats should stop working with Republicans and ditch this idea of bipartisanship.
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KnightofShikari 01/31/21 7:57:12 PM #20: |
Antifar posted...
Right. The move here is make an offer Democrats have to reject, then criticize them for not living up to Biden's claims about unity.it's like a catch-22. if the democrats don't take the low ball offer, GOP blasts them for not living up to the "unity" angle if they do take the low ball offer, then the GOP blasts them for not keeping to the $2K check promise either way, GOP will attack them --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 01/31/21 7:57:47 PM #21: |
CommonStar posted...
Maybe Democrats should stop working with Republicans and ditch this idea of bipartisanship. How? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 01/31/21 7:59:02 PM #22: |
"I'm asking for $500."
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Blue_Dream87 01/31/21 8:01:43 PM #23: |
You can't have unity with a party that works against the people's interest and regularly undermines democracy.
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Jiek_Fafn 01/31/21 8:07:11 PM #24: |
Repubs completely misunderstanding what unity is. I am shocked
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ScazarMeltex 01/31/21 8:08:28 PM #25: |
I mean, fuck unity with these seditious bastards. The voting population gave the dems the Presidency, the house, and the senate.
If they want to vote to convict Trump unanimously, then I would consider working with them, otherwise, tell them to fuck off. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 01/31/21 8:08:44 PM #26: |
Democrats: 1.9 trillion for the working class
Republicans: we can't afford that, how about 2 billion for the working class and 8 trillion for the rich though? --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 01/31/21 8:13:00 PM #27: |
COVxy posted...
How? Using budget reconcilation process to push through big changes unilaterally? --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 01/31/21 8:14:35 PM #28: |
COVxy posted...
How?If people don't want to work with you, use and abuse you, and vow to never compromise, then at some point you should get a fucking hint and stop inviting them to the table. I don't know who the Democrats think they're doing the whole prim and proper act for. Everyone knows they're wasting their time. We're just going to slowly collapse while we alternate between the Democrats getting blocked at all turns by the Republicans and the Republicans dragging us back to the stone age. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 01/31/21 8:16:48 PM #29: |
republicans are literal captain planet supervillains
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COVxy 01/31/21 8:38:57 PM #31: |
Balrog0 posted...
Using budget reconcilation process to push through big changes unilaterally? And that'll work for all legislative goals of the Biden admin? Seems like the answer is very much so no. The only reason this bill is not being passed through reconciliation immediately is to try to set the precedent for future bipartisan action, as far as I can tell. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 01/31/21 8:39:34 PM #32: |
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Funkydog 01/31/21 8:42:25 PM #33: |
"If you don't give up everything you want and do all we want then I guess you just hate America"
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Doe 01/31/21 8:46:02 PM #34: |
Do we know if the current Dem plan covers adult dependents?
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Antifar 01/31/21 9:33:07 PM #35: |
COVxy posted...
The only reason this bill is not being passed through reconciliation immediately is to try to set the precedent for future bipartisan action, as far as I can tell.The precedent being set here is Republicans would rather implode the budgets of state and local governments than cooperate with the Biden administration. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 01/31/21 9:34:15 PM #36: |
Antifar posted...
The precedent being set here is Republicans would rather implode the budgets of state and local governments than cooperate with the Biden administration. Yes, can't say this is a great sign for legislative successes in the near future lol. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 01/31/21 9:37:21 PM #37: |
COVxy posted...
Yes, can't say this is a great sign for legislative successes in the near future lol.Democrats can either get rid of the filibuster and ram through legislation with 50+1 votes, or pass nothing and hope voters will reward them for it in two years. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 01/31/21 9:39:02 PM #38: |
Antifar posted...
Democrats can either get rid of the filibuster and ram through legislation with 50+1 votes, or pass nothing and hope voters will reward them for it in two years. I'm not liking the risk of that first option, long term. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 01/31/21 9:43:41 PM #39: |
I think there are much greater risks, long term, in preserving an anti-democratic (small d) rule invented by segregationists even as it prevents the passage of aid Democrats promised during a crisis. A de facto 60 vote requirement makes the senate unworkable as an institution, and inflates the already inflated power it affords to small, rural states.
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DarkChozoGhost 01/31/21 9:48:54 PM #40: |
If they get rid of the filibuster they can make DC a state. Unfortunately the democrats don't really care about that.
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COVxy 01/31/21 9:49:47 PM #41: |
There's a fundamental issue here in that legislation is so important because it is likely to produce stable changes. This is at least in part because it's hard to get legislation passed, meaning it's also particularly hard to get it overturned once in.
Changing this changes the dynamics a lot, potentially making legislative change just as ineffective as EO. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 01/31/21 9:57:09 PM #42: |
Antifar posted...
"If you want unity, you want bipartisanship, you ought to start with the group that's willing to work together," Cassidy said on "Fox News Sunday." "They did not."Fuck these people so hard --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 01/31/21 9:59:00 PM #43: |
COVxy posted...
COVxy posted... There's a fundamental issue here in that legislation is so important because it is likely to produce stable changes. This is at least in part because it's hard to get legislation passed, It wasn't this hard until like 20 years ago. The 60-vote requirement everyone now accepts as set in stone basically didn't exist for the first two hundred years of this government. It was never intended to be this hard! --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alexis_Heartly 02/01/21 12:53:04 AM #44: |
Antifar posted...
Democrats can either get rid of the filibuster and ram through legislation with 50+1 votes, or pass nothing and hope voters will reward them for it in two years. Which is essentially the fascism we heard so much about the last 4 years ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 02/01/21 12:57:52 AM #45: |
Alexis_Heartly posted...
Which is essentially the fascism we heard so much about the last 4 years You don't know what fascism is 5 karma account. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alexis_Heartly 02/01/21 12:59:07 AM #46: |
Tmaster148 posted...
You don't know what fascism is 5 karma account. You mean a government forcing things through without representation of the people? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 02/01/21 1:00:40 AM #47: |
Alexis_Heartly posted...
You mean a government forcing things through without representation of the people? People already voted for the people in Congress to represent them and the president and vice president. So a bill passing by 50+1 votes is infact being represented by the people. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 02/01/21 1:00:44 AM #48: |
i don't trust what the republican's are selling this time. they'll find a way to screw out a few groups out of the money again.
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Alexis_Heartly 02/01/21 1:02:11 AM #49: |
Tmaster148 posted...
People already voted for the people in Congress to represent them and the president and vice president. So a bill passing by 50+1 votes is infact being represented by the people. Its not. Skirting the system is cheating. Getting rid of things like the filibuster because you know it won't pass means its not a good plan to begin with ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 02/01/21 1:11:57 AM #50: |
Don't even respond to a 2021 account do
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