Board 8 > just finished rise of skywalker. that was awesome. (spoilers)

(+) Yeah! (+)

I thought it was fun but stupid. The trilogy was just 3 movies belonging to different trilogies. Episode 7 easily my fave of them. So well paced and fresh even when playing it safe.

I did like Luke grabbing the lightsaber, shitting on TLJ and the porgs shouting. Best scene ep9

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redrocket posted...

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

This line is fine. Its just a version of the tolerance paradox. If only a Sith deals in absolutes you are allowed to say that, even though it is technically an absolute.

Also, Somehow Palpatine returned.

PS 8 was amazing and Ive never felt more vindicated in that than when 9 came out.

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RoS was bad and even managed to ruin like the only good thing it brought back. The whole sequel trilogy was a disaster though. Waste of new characters, bad writing because it wasnt planned out, waste of old characters and a huge disservice to basically all of them. It looks pretty, but thats it.

Also get this Star Wars is bad nonsense out of here, most of Star Wars is good. The bad Star Wars films also still have merit. 9 is bad but its still a handsomely made film with some effective scenes. Thats more than you can say for certain other billion dollar franchises, like Transformers or Pirates of the Caribbean. The notion that Star Wars is the franchise where popularity and quality coincide the least is absurd when there is straight trash that is very popular, and the worst Star Wars gets is like a 2.5/5 film.

Besides, the strength of Star Wars was always its spinoff media. I guess a whole new generation of people are discovering the 90s-00s era again!

If were talking about the franchise with the lowest correlation between quality and popularity, that has to be Pirates of the Carribbean.

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I never watched PotC beyond the first three, but I would take every movie in the original PotC trilogy over all of Star Wars since 4/5/6

Actually Rogue One was pretty good

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There is one PotC movie that is better than the worst Star Wars movie, and it is better than maybe three of them. The rest are terrible, especially after the first three but frankly 2 and 3 are pretty bad as well.

Also 6 isnt the best Star Wars movie since 6, and frankly is a movie that gets away with murder because of when it was released. Its nothing compared to 7&8, its not even as good as 3, and frankly most complaints against 1 can also be levelled at 6. Its an incredibly flawed film that is a good example of the fact that fan reactions to Star Wars are often relating to factors outside the merits of the films.

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I will not tolerate this Pirates of the Caribbean slander

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Agreed. Pirates of the Caribbean is a better franchise than Star Wars full stop.

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chewie got a medal

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Lightning Strikes posted...

the worst Star Wars gets is like a 2.5/5 film.

the star wars holiday special is 2.5/5?


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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Literally every aspect of episode 9 is an "apology" for episode 8 and in some way meant to erase that it happened, because a bunch of whiny fanboys were pissed about it.

That's why the first hour of 9 is such a rush jumbled mess, it's straight up a fake replacement episode 8 they made up in half the run time to tack on the front. Actual episode 9 is everything after the first hour.

Basically yeah

Though bringing back Palp was such a dumb move. Just commit to Kylo Ren as the bad guy! It's not hard!
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Webbernet posted...

So what the Star Wars fandom at large considers the series to be one good movie, one great movie, two okay movies and five terrible movies? Harsh assessment.

to be fair we had much more Star Wars media outside the movies to enjoy!

but RIP LucasArts :(

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snoke was obviously going to be this trilogy's palpatine but since snoke was killed off in last jedi, abrams actually brought back palpatine >_> dumb move but rian johnson killing off snoke was also dumb.

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wait, so to be clear... each of these movies was written entirely separately...???

it would definitely explain a lot i guess - jj abrams was behind lost...
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SeabassDebeste posted...

wait, so to be clear... each of these movies was written entirely separately...???

it would definitely explain a lot i guess - jj abrams was behind lost...

Yes. Abrams kicked off the trilogy but wanted it to be like his Mission Impossible/Star Trek work where he kicks it off and then other directors take over. They never had a plan for the sequel trilogy and took it one movie at a time and it's why it's such a mess.

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Whiskey_Nick posted...

3 > 6 > 4 > 9 > 8 > 7 > 5 > RO > S > 2 > 1

I can't believe no one else has responded to this, unless you're already known for this ridiculous opinion or something.

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My eyes glazed over that Nick post, just assumed he was trolling.

And I will parrot Lightning and agree that episode 6 is absolutely terrible and is completely in line with the prequel trilogy, and it's dumbness gets ignored because "muh OT". It's a terrible movie and even 3 is better than it.

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The last Jedi is a great movie and a bad star wars movie

the phantom menace is a bad movie and a great Star Wars movie.

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I blame Johnson more than Abrams even though the latter is to blame for not planning out a trilogy. TFA was a safe movie that got people curious about all sorts of stuff and then TLJ took a shit on all of those mysteries along with taking a shit on Luke too. It was so bad they tried to undo as much as they could for the 3rd movie which had no way of turning out good and clearly most fans would not have wanted to see Johnson touch that one either.

Would absolutely have loved to see Johnson's episode 9. He clearly had ideas and a voice, while Abraham's is just a machine putting out studio blandness.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

There is one PotC movie that is better than the worst Star Wars movie, and it is better than maybe three of them. The rest are terrible, especially after the first three but frankly 2 and 3 are pretty bad as well.

Also 6 isnt the best Star Wars movie since 6, and frankly is a movie that gets away with murder because of when it was released. Its nothing compared to 7&8, its not even as good as 3, and frankly most complaints against 1 can also be levelled at 6. Its an incredibly flawed film that is a good example of the fact that fan reactions to Star Wars are often relating to factors outside the merits of the films.

Holy LMAO this entire post. Just when you think it cant get any worse it finds a way. Just like the ST! Well now I at least know that I can direct every opinion you ever have on movies (probably all media tbh) straight to the dumpster.

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If Johnson did 9 we probably wouldve had the first Force Sex scene and it wouldve been baaaaaaad

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Would absolutely have loved to see Johnson's episode 9. He clearly had ideas and a voice, while Abraham's is just a machine putting out studio blandness.

As someone who thinks 8 was straight shit I agree this would probably still have been better than the 9 we got.

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yeah, sadly, i rewatched return of the jedi for the first time in like a decade, and it absolutely does not hold up. i'd rank it below episodes 3 and 7 clearly, and possibly below even some others.
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Waluigi1 posted...

I can't believe no one else has responded to this, unless you're already known for this ridiculous opinion or something.

Nick's horrendous Star Wars opinions are known

Return of the Jedi is still the best Star Wars movie.

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Episode 6 being pretty awful just goes to show how responsible Marcia was for those first 2 movies being good.

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As bad as some aspects of episode 6 are, it is still better than the entirety of the sequels!

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

snoke was obviously going to be this trilogy's palpatine but since snoke was killed off in last jedi, abrams actually brought back palpatine >_> dumb move but rian johnson killing off snoke was also dumb.

I thought Snoke was deliberately designed in Force Awakens to be a fairly bland, uninteresting Emperor rip-off and that's why I theorized after TFA came out that he would be killed by Kylo Ren, the more interesting character - but not for Ren to turn good, but for Ren to turn completely bad. And TLJ seemed to be going that way! TLJ had lines like Leia saying "her son is gone", and Luke saying he "can't save him". Commit to it, for fuck's sake! Not every character with indecision needs to eventually turn good! Some will settle that indecision by going all the way bad, and become irretrievable!

But nah we'll just do the Vader thing again
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XIII_rocks posted...

I thought Snoke was deliberately designed in Force Awakens to be a fairly bland, uninteresting Emperor rip-off and that's why I theorized after TFA came out that he would be killed by Kylo Ren, the more interesting character - but not for Ren to turn good, but for Ren to turn completely bad. And TLJ seemed to be going that way! TLJ had lines like Leia saying "her son is gone", and Luke saying he "can't save him". Commit to it, for fuck's sake! Not every character with indecision needs to eventually turn good! Some will settle that indecision by turning bad!

One hundred percent. Kylo Ren turning good is absolutely the result of damage control and the producers deciding to try and cater to every pissed off audience grouping they could, in this case shippers, and as a result leaving nobody happy.

Though I guess the shippers are actually happy since they only cared about Renlo? But he's dead, so...maybe not?

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Id have preferred Snoke, but Id also put Kylo in the same tier as Jar Jar. Just a fucking awful character

TLJ is absolutely the best of the new trilogy, but it's definitely still flawed. The whole casino planet arc sucks, Finn and Poe both suffer as a result. Laura Dern's character is not great. Luke's characterization is slightly off.

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It turning out that Kylo actually could be redeemed just shits all over Luke even more by making him look like an even bigger idiot/hypocrite for trying to preemptively murder him.

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Cant wait for them to reveal TLJ Luke was actually a shapeshifting imposter all along.

Luke was a Skrull.

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it was actually Luuuke Skywalker

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The kiss was the single worst moment in the series

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Leonhart4 posted...

The kiss was the single worst moment in the series

Like getting to watch a live action version of a terrible Hermione x Draco fic from fanfiction.net in the early 2000s.

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I can't believe the screenwriter of acclaimed movie films Justice League and Batman vs. Superman would do this to us

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Pod racing is the best part of the prequels.

Should have been it's own franchise

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Don't worry the Game of Thrones dudes are making a pod racing trilogy highly inspired by fast and the furious.

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colliding posted...

Don't worry the Game of Thrones dudes are making a pod racing trilogy highly inspired by fast and the furious.

Can Vin Diesel appear in this?

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redrocket posted...

Can Vin Diesel appear in this?

Yes. But confusingly enough there is also a character named "Vin Diesel" played by Finn Wolfhard.

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We need a Star Wars tag on this board at this point.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

snoke was obviously going to be this trilogy's palpatine but since snoke was killed off in last jedi, abrams actually brought back palpatine >_> dumb move but rian johnson killing off snoke was also dumb.

Perhaps once they found the cloning facility they could have fought another clone of smoke; making it clear they need to destroy the facility to get rid of him (and leaving a back door for extra smokes?)

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colliding posted...

Don't worry the Game of Thrones dudes are making a pod racing trilogy highly inspired by fast and the furious.

Fuck rogue one this is what a star wars spiniff should be!

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SeabassDebeste posted...

yeah, sadly, i rewatched return of the jedi for the first time in like a decade, and it absolutely does not hold up. i'd rank it below episodes 3 and 7 clearly, and possibly below even some others.

i hate you

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https://twitter.com/briamgilbert/status/1279104751448346624

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neonreaper posted...

i hate you

how's it going man

we're looking at moving to the boston burbs now but good lord it's expensive
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neonreaper posted...

i hate you

redrocket posted...

Holy LMAO this entire post. Just when you think it cant get any worse it finds a way. Just like the ST! Well now I at least know that I can direct every opinion you ever have on movies (probably all media tbh) straight to the dumpster.

I find it funny that whenever the subject of Return of the Jedi being bad is brought up, the response from its defenders is never to actually defend it, but just say "fuck you".

It happens every time!

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RotJ has the throne scene aka the best scene in the entire series so its, by default, at least solid.

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