Current Events > Were you rooting for Light Yagami on the inside?

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Did you want Light to be able to finish what he had already started?

Or was what he did not worth the end results?

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No fuck that guy

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yes lol

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Yes. In real life I would be opposed to him. But in the story I wanted to see him win. It's natural to want to see the protagonist of a story succeed

No?

That's stupid.

He deserved to get taken down from like the second episode, unless you're a psycho.

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Remember when Light murdered someone on TV because he questioned Kira's objectives and gleefully murdered someone else by tricking them into revealing their name and gloating about as it was happening?

The show pretty clearly painted Light as the bad guy pretty early on, almost definitively by the end of the second episode if not by the end of the first.

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cuh posted...

Yes, and thats why I really loved the short epilogue where you see the followers of Kira, awaiting his return. That really resonated with me for some reason.

Death note was a wild ride for sure

Irony posted...

No fuck that guy

Lol why? How he treated non-criminals? Or you dislike death note based purging entirely?

BignutzisBack posted...

yes lol

Lol

Zikten posted...

Yes. In real life I would be opposed to him. But in the story I wanted to see him win. It's natural to want to see the protagonist of a story succeed

True like if we were in a room with him he'd be a villain but on screen they protagonized him

If he succeeded i have a feeling they still would have killed him off afterwards somehow so he couldn't enjoy his own paradise type thing

GhettoFlip posted...

No?

That's stupid.

He deserved to get taken down from like the second episode, unless you're a psycho.

So no to death note based purging in its entirety. If you had the death note what use would you have found for it? Or there are none?

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Light was fun to watch, but he is still an evil psycopath.
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Light might have been a bad guy, but he wasnt a bad guy

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K181 posted...

Remember when Light murdered someone on TV because he questioned Kira's objectives and gleefully murdered someone else by tricking them into revealing their name and gloating about as it was happening?

The show pretty clearly painted Light as the bad guy pretty early on, almost definitively by the end of the second episode if not by the end of the first.

In that case I'll rephrase the same question. If he still did a death note based criminal purge but never did things like that, would you have rooted for him?


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Light was willing (and planning) to kill innocent people, so no, I wasn't rooting for him.

plus, the criminal/justice system isn't perfect, so he potentially killed people who were wrongfully accused/imprisoned.

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Light was pretty open to killing anyone that risked exposing him or even challenging him. If anything he was the kind of guy afraid to let his bigger plan be exposed to anyone because he knew most would point out the larger arrogance and flaws in the idea and he wouldn't be able to convince anyone but himself and deluded followers like Misa.

Light sees himself as the good guy the way Dr Doom also does.

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Vermander posted...

Light was fun to watch, but he is still an evil psycopath.

Too smart for his own good he saw society as something that was beneath him, after gaining the power to control it he abandoned certain aspects of morality and his God complex made him devilish in retrospect.

Rika_Furude posted...

Light might have been a bad guy, but he wasnt a bad guy

You mean as in he could have gone into manipulating the deaths for his advantage in a pure evil way instead of trying to save it?

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Who

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g0ldie posted...

plus, the criminal/justice system isn't perfect, so he potentially killed people who were wrongfully accused/imprisoned.

That is scary tbh

lightwarrior78 posted...

Light was pretty open to killing anyone that risked exposing him or even challenging him. If anything he was the kind of guy afraid to let his bigger plan be exposed to anyone because he knew most would point out the larger arrogance and flaws in the idea and he wouldn't be able to convince anyone but himself and deluded followers like Misa.

Light sees himself as the good guy the way Dr Doom also does.

Dang thats deep.

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It was more fun to root for L because he was the underdog

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SauI_Goodman posted...

Who

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g0ldie posted...

Light was willing (and planning) to kill innocent people, so no, I wasn't rooting for him.

plus, the criminal/justice system isn't perfect, so he potentially killed people who were wrongfully accused/imprisoned.

And remember, a few years before Death Note came out, Ace Attorney came out to tell a story rooted in how the Japanese legal system tended to railroad anyone in it rather than seek truth to guilt or innocence.

I am grateful DN didn't touch on that because it would have ruined to focus, but it's really hard to root for Light given what we know about the legal system in many countries.

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Romulox28 posted...

It was more fun to root for L because he was the underdog

Even with Code Geass depicting chess on screen and metaphorically, the yin and yang of light and L are super chess board epic. L trailing Light were great times indeed

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tbh, I wasn't aware of the Ace Attorney thing, but I did hear some stuff about Japan's legal system.

edit: at post 19.

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Even ignoring everything else, Light was a sociopath with a literal god complex who had the ability to instantly kill anyone in the world. That's not someone you want in charge.

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How could I not root for Light? I felt like I had finally found an anime character I could relate to.

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lightwarrior78 posted...

And remember, a few years before Death Note came out, Ace Attorney came out to tell a story rooted in how the Japanese legal system tended to railroad anyone in it rather than seek truth to guilt or innocence.

I am grateful DN didn't touch on that because it would have ruined to focus, but it's really hard to root for Light given what we know about the legal system in many countries.

Never played(or watched?) Ace Attorney is it good?

And thats wild to think about but it makes sense he is only human so instead of a real rapture he sacrificed some innocent lives like a artificial God would be assumed to do.


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g0ldie posted...

tbh, I wasn't aware of the Ace Attorney thing, but I did hear some stuff about Japan's legal system.

edit: at post 19.

Thats wild!!!

pegusus123456 posted...

Even ignoring everything else, Light was a sociopath with a literal god complex who had the ability to instantly kill anyone in the world. That's not someone you want in charge.

I wonder how it would work out if a US president got the death note in real life.

Simp posted...

How could I not root for Light? I felt like I had finally found an anime character I could relate to.

Sarcasm? Or for real?

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Simp posted...

How could I not root for Light? I felt like I had finally found an anime character I could relate to.

Y i k e s .
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Dis make me want to watch it again xD

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For me i thought L was unlikeable with his stupid gimmicks so i was happy Light won between the two but Light is also a scum so I wanted someone better to beat him but instead we got Mellow and Near which made the whole 2nd half of the story shit.

I also wanted see Ryuk get punished by the 'underworld king' or whoever for causing trouble and exposing the supernatural to the human world.

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greatmonkeybaby posted...

In that case I'll rephrase the same question. If he still did a death note based criminal purge but never did things like that, would you have rooted for him?

No. Murder is murder. Killing bad people, who are incarcerated by the way, is still bad.

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greatmonkeybaby posted...

I wonder how it would work out if a US president got the death note in real life.

if you haven't yet done so, you should read the special Death Note chapter that was released last year.

I think you can find it on the official Viz site, but I'm not 100% sure

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Vermander posted...

Y i k e s .

Lololol

Dark_SilverX posted...

Dis make me want to watch it again xD

I know haha I'm due for another thorough re watch of both duality chess board series(Death Note & Code Geass) again soon

Cobra1010 posted...

For me i thought L was unlikeable with his stupid gimmicks so i was happy Light won between the two but Light is also a scum so I wanted someone better to beat him but instead we got Mellow and Near which made the whole 2nd half of the story shit.

I also wanted see Ryuk get punished by the 'underworld king' or whoever for causing trouble and exposing the supernatural to the human world.

Gimmicks as in being a sweet tooth?

I liked Mello and Near the idea of L spawning a fractal duality apart from his own duality with light taking his life was cool to me. But

Your idea on ryuk is fire though! I would have at least liked to see some authority figure aspect in regards to ryuk changing history to that effect

K181 posted...

No. Murder is murder. Killing bad people, who are incarcerated by the way, is still bad.

In that case the death note really is a set up, within that perspective all he could have done was relinquish the book to ryuk.

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g0ldie posted...

if you haven't yet done so, you should read the special Death Note chapter that was released last year.

I think you can find it on the official Viz site, but I'm not 100% sure

Haha that's exactly what I'm basing that question on too tbh!

But I mean like if it had happened in this actual reality that we live in would it have happened the same way?

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greatmonkeybaby posted...

Never played(or watched?) Ace Attorney is it good?

And thats wild to think about but it makes sense he is only human so instead of a real rapture he sacrificed some innocent lives like a artificial God would be assumed to do.

I do recommend the first 3 games. After that mileage may vary.

And yeah, the thing about DN is that Light and L are super smart but have the morals of small children (or many emotionally stunted adults). Light sees having done evil as punishable by his hand. No middle ground. No excuses. No redemption if you were still serving your sentence. And above all, he can never be wrong about his judgement.

L sees death outside of due execution as pure evil and can't see that Kira was doing what police seem unable to in curbing crimes, and that like many a religious person espouses, maybe a hand of god is necessary to get people to behave better.

And both take actions well beyond doing good, but about proving they're right and how smart they are.

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greatmonkeybaby posted...

You mean as in he could have gone into manipulating the deaths for his advantage in a pure evil way instead of trying to save it?

I mean yeah. It wasn't entirely for a selfless purpose. He did consider himself to be the god of the new world after all and his power and actions fed his ego. But it wasn't entirely selfish either, even though it was misguided. He thought he was doing the right thing.

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greatmonkeybaby posted...

But I mean like if it had happened in this actual reality that we live in would it have happened the same way?

Given the ... unrest this summer that's an ugly thought. Hell, a lot of ugly thoughts about how wrong it would go.

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Yes because if he lost the show would be over and I liked the show.

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lightwarrior78 posted...

I do recommend the first 3 games. After that mileage may vary.

And yeah, the thing about DN is that Light and L are super smart but have the morals of small children (or many emotionally stunted adults). Light sees having done evil as punishable by his hand. No middle ground. No excuses. No redemption if you were still serving your sentence. And above all, he can never be wrong about his judgement.

L sees death outside of due execution as pure evil and can't see that Kira was doing what police seem unable to in curbing crimes, and that like many a religious person espouses, maybe a hand of god is necessary to get people to behave better.

And both take actions well beyond doing good, but about proving they're right and how smart they are.

That is sooooo true! L and Light are like the furthest extremes of "The Law".

In that I can see there very existence could be a systematic metaphor that Light was necessary but that duality is a scale balanced even in the greatest extremes, a judge of man such as Light manifests his own "L" to judge him creating extreme opposites with equal flaws etc. Guess I'm ranting about the binary brother system philosophy from The Matrix again lol.

Rika_Furude posted...

I mean yeah. It wasn't entirely for a selfless purpose. He did consider himself to be the god of the new world after all and his power and actions fed his ego. But it wasn't entirely selfish either, even though it was misguided. He thought he was doing the right thing.

That is true! He very well could have become a pure chaotic force of nature. His god complex is his downfall while also simultaneously keeping him within a system of control over criminals, though being likened to a god of death he falls from his grace as a human. In the end if he had any other goal other than saving the world it would be too hard for anybody to root for him.

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lightwarrior78 posted...

Given the ... unrest this summer that's an ugly thought. Hell, a lot of ugly thoughts about how wrong it would go.

Yeah it could turn into Armageddon in certain aspects...
Thats pretty horrific

billcom6 posted...

Yes because if he lost the show would be over and I liked the show.

LOL that logic is facts!


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greatmonkeybaby posted...

Sarcasm? Or for real?

delusions of grandeur

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lightwarrior78 posted...

Light was pretty open to killing anyone that risked exposing him or even challenging him. If anything he was the kind of guy afraid to let his bigger plan be exposed to anyone because he knew most would point out the larger arrogance and flaws in the idea and he wouldn't be able to convince anyone but himself and deluded followers like Misa.

Light sees himself as the good guy the way Dr Doom also does.

In all fairness, Doomsy turned the world into a utopia through his dictatorship when he took over lol. Gotta at least give him some credit for the fact that he wasnt just a total blowhard lol

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greatmonkeybaby posted...

Yeah it could turn into Armageddon in certain aspects...
Thats pretty horrific

I can see it now:

Kira is a just god.

What do you mean Kira's killed a lot of black people.

Kira's an unjust god that should be killing republicans.

Light gets pissed and starts killing anyone challenging him on social media.

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I kinda was, tbh.

I always root for the bad guy, provided his wrongdoings actually contribute to the greater good.

Some people need to die in order for even worse people to die. I was okay with that from the beginning of the series until the very end.

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Simp posted...

delusions of grandeur

Lolol

YugiNoob posted...

In all fairness, Doomsy turned the world into a utopia through his dictatorship when he took over lol. Gotta at least give him some credit for the fact that he wasnt just a total blowhard lol

Woah thats pretty wild that he achieved that in his plot(which comic was it in?).

See if they had depicted Light succeeding in a crime free world before dying he would be held to a higher standard than dead crazy guy.

But now he's just labeled a psychopath that lost thanks to not being able to beat a metaphorical holy trinity chess move(L being Lights systematic binary brother still won in fractal form as 3 total chess pieces)

lightwarrior78 posted...

I can see it now:

Kira is a just god.

What do you mean Kira's killed a lot of black people.

Kira's an unjust god that should be killing republicans.

Light gets pissed and starts killing anyone challenging him on social media.

Woah that would be insanity!!!

And with the secret service involved or another brach of intel he could make decoy killings as moves to deter this world's L from pin pointing who he is even better than Light alone would.

It would be too chaotic!

HagenEx posted...

I kinda was, tbh.

I always root for the bad guy, provided his wrongdoings actually contribute to the greater good.

Some people need to die in order for even worse people to die. I was okay with that from the beginning of the series until the very end.

Hot Fuzz cult in the background: "the greater good"

lol.

Strange enough ... if God's of death exist in that world

Was there some holy being that governs all watching and allowing all that to happen? Like could Light in his reality just be some aspect of the left hand of god manifesting a prototype cleansing with a trinity of L/Mello/Near fated fo wrap him up to imbue their reality with the fear of possibility that a supernatural force *COULD* intervene if needed.


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Sorry, I can't find that exact comic. I think he got bored of ruling the world or something lol. Maybe someone who's more familiar with Marvel can tell us when Doom takes over.

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YugiNoob posted...

Sorry, I can't find that exact comic. I think he got bored of ruling the world or something lol. Maybe someone who's more familiar with Marvel can tell us when Doom takes over.

That is honestly pretty fire though! The fact they depicted him upon utopian success is wild

And true true!

I would imagine a what if scenario of lights success would still end in him dying, with some sort of fake system maintaining the illusion of a "big brother is watching" fear on society without him. Or codegeass basically


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No. For such an intelligent kid it was obvious from his mindset that at the end of the day that is what he was, a kid. Super childish, and kind of a douche bag.

Yeah, I rooted for Light in the same way I rooted for Joe Goldberg in You.

Also, DNs ending was bullshit. Near is an awful character. They shouldve just let L win if they were going that route.

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I was, right up until a practically throwaway line that meant he was gonna start killing people for things that aren't even crimes.

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MKScorpion posted...

No. For such an intelligent kid it was obvious from his mindset that at the end of the day that is what he was, a kid. Super childish, and kind of a douche bag.

Yeah young enough to be pretentious enough to attempt playing the role of god but also ignorant enough to make every mistake he did that drove him into deeper madness.

MarshallStack posted...

Yeah, I rooted for Light in the same way I rooted for Joe Goldberg in You.

Also, DNs ending was bullshit. Near is an awful character. They shouldve just let L win if they were going that route.

Will have to Google that movie!

The ending that near was involved in was eh but I disliked the Mikami Teru aspect of it more than Near
I actually like Near & Mello a lot but their metaphors are more obscure(like really obscure) than L's and its easy to dislike them both.

EnvoyOfTheLight posted...

I was, right up until a practically throwaway line that meant he was gonna start killing people for things that aren't even crimes.

Do you remember the quote of which line that was? Because you're right it's at that point a lot of people were divided

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Speaking of divided

Votes are 29 to 27

That's solid

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