Current Events > Should sex work be made LEGAL in your opinion?

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Isn't Murrica one of the only places where it's banned (not counting middle eastern countries)
It seems rather silly and authoritarian to decide what people do with their own bodies.

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We have to consider that people are coerced, or worse (forced), into this line of work.

If made legal, "recruitment" via manipulation would run rampant in profit-seeking employers (aka pimps).

No... Absolutely not. I look at women as something far better than just some slob of meat that spreads their leg for income. Even asking such a stupid question is putting women down. No, they deserve better.

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Yeah. If its legal, it can be regulated to be safer for people participating in it.

Joshua0286591 posted...

We have to consider that people are coerced, or worse (forced), into this line of work.

If made legal, "recruitment" via manipulation would run rampant in profit-seeking employers (aka pimps).

pimping is still illegal in most places where its legal.

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zinezinzadan posted...

No... Absolutely not. I look at women as something far better than just some slob of meat that spreads their leg for income. Even asking such a stupid question is putting women down. No, they deserve better.

So they don't deserve the freedom of choice? You think you should be the one to dictate what they can and can't do? Interesting.

On a serious note. As long as there's a system in place to protect the workers.

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Yes. Legalize it. Regulate it and tax it.


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It should be legal and heavily regulated.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

So they don't deserve the freedom of choice? You think you should be the one to dictate what they can and can't do? Interesting.

Ignorant comment. I refuse to give someone the ability to go into something that has been statistically proven to be dangerous. Should we create more traditional jobs on the market and allow women to saturate them, or should we put them in brothels? I would rather create normal jobs. The user above would prefer the brothels I guess.

If it was legal and your mother decided to do it, you would actually be happy dude? Thats so fucked. One crazy meth head stabs her after sleeping with her and then what? There is a reason that industry brings the lowest people, its sad and unfortunate. My advice for anyone is to stay away as far as possible. You clearly havent seen prostitutes in real life and evaluated their mental and physical health.


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zinezinzadan posted...

Ignorant comment. I refuse to give someone the ability to go into something that has been statistically proven to be dangerous. Should we create more traditional jobs on the market and allow women to saturate them, or should we put them in brothels? I would rather create normal jobs. The user above would prefer the brothels I guess.

If it was legal and your mother decided to do it, you would actually be happy dude? Thats so fucked. One crazy meth head stabs her after sleeping with her and then what? There is a reason that industry brings the lowest people, its sad and unfortunate. My advice for anyone is to stay away as far as possible. You clearly havent seen prostitutes in real life and evaluated their mental and physical health.

You seem to have something personal going on, so I'mma leave it alone. Also, my mom would make a lovely prostitute, so shut the fuck up.

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Weed was made legal here but I still know plenty of people who buy from a dealer because the dispensary stuff costs so much. I feel like the same would happen with prostitution.

I voted Yes by the way. But I know there will still be problems.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

You seem to have something personal going on, so I'mma leave it alone. Also, my mom would make a lovely prostitute, so shut the fuck up.

Im just going to assume youre trolling. I dont wish any woman the physical dangers and irreversible extreme psychological damage from that industry. For you to say that about your mom really worries me and upsets me.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

You seem to have something personal going on, so I'mma leave it alone. Also, my mom would make a lovely prostitute, so shut the fuck up.

Your name definitely fits you. lol

zinezinzadan posted...

Im just going to assume youre trolling. I dont wish any woman the physical dangers and irreversible extreme psychological damage from that industry. For you to say that about your mom really worries me and upsets me.

The thing is, prostitutes are gonna exist either way. Part of the difference is that they're more protected. You talking about their dangerous lives actually plays into why this might end up helpful for them, including my sexy ass prostitute mom.

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Nah. Keep it banned

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Their body, their choice. I think it would also help a lot of incels, as well as protect sex workers.

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Im cool with it being legal.

We should let the states decide. I am not a fan of the Feds involving themselves in everything. On the other hand, I have not given much thought to this, so its whatever.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

The thing is, prostitutes are gonna exist either way. Part of the difference is that they're more protected. You talking about their dangerous lives actually plays into why this might end up helpful for them, including my sexy ass prostitute mom.

Theyre going to exist because they feel like they had no other Avenue to create good income. Truthfully, thats the issue. We should elect officials who make the economy and prosperity of the citizens their priority. It will fix so much more than prostitution. There are European countries where the minimum wage was $15/hr many years ago. What is the USA and so much of the world doing.. I feel heart broken for any woman that resorts to this. Its not right and we should do something that permanently ends industries thats degrade men and women.

I truly value human lives, and the only way I could base my decision on this is if I truly believe they wouldnt be happy in legalized prostitution. You know? :/ I just saw a documentary of a girl doing prostitution in a 1st world country. I saw snippets, I forgot if it was legal or not but it seemed legal. Shes broken, she met really shitty dudes when doing business. I think it was legal because they had a rating system for customers, so that you dont end up with an abusive person. Its on YouTube from Vice. Horrible. If that girl had a better way to make money, she would never disrespect her dignity. I know youre joking about your mom. None of us would wish this line of work for anyone we sensibly cared about.

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Flockaveli posted...

Weed was made legal here but I still know plenty of people who buy from a dealer because the dispensary stuff costs so much. I feel like the same would happen with prostitution.

I voted Yes by the way. But I know there will still be problems.

Exactly.

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zinezinzadan posted...

Theyre going to exist because they feel like they had no other Avenue to create good income. Truthfully, thats the issue. We should elect officials who make the economy and prosperity of the citizens their priority. It will fix so much more than prostitution. There are European countries where the minimum wage was $15/hr many years ago. What is the USA and so much of the world doing.. I feel heart broken for any woman that resorts to this. Its not right and we should do something that permanently ends industries thats degrade men and women.

I truly value human lives, and the only way I could base my decision on this is if I truly believe they wouldnt be happy in legalized prostitution. You know? :/ I just saw a documentary of a girl doing prostitution in a 1st world country. I saw snippets, I forgot if it was legal or not but it seemed legal. Shes broken, she met really shitty dudes when doing business. I think it was legal because they had a rating system for customers, so that you dont end up with an abusive person. Its on YouTube from Vice. Horrible. If that girl had a better way to make money, she would never disrespect her dignity. I know youre joking about your mom. None of us would wish this line of work for anyone we sensibly cared about.

The thing is, you're creating this perfect world that doesn't exist before answering the question. While I'm answering it in the world we have in the moment, where this would be the only thing that would change. Obviously I want a perfect world where people don't have to rely on sex work. Just like I want a world that doesn't put all poor people in shitty situations while everyone else flaunts their riches in their face and makes them feel like they're failures because they can't afford all the stuff shoved in their faces through ads that are put everywhere they turn. But, that's the world we live in.

Edit: I forgot to say something absurd at the end of this post :(

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

The thing is, you're creating this perfect world that doesn't exist before answering the question. While I'm answering it in the world we have in the moment, where this would be the only thing that would change. Obviously I want a perfect world where people don't have to rely on sex work. Just like I want a world that doesn't put all poor people in shitty situations while everyone else flaunts their riches in their face and makes them feel like they're failures because they can't afford all the stuff shoved in their faces through ads that are put everywhere they turn. But, that's the world we live in.

I totally hear you. You feel Legalizing will alleviate something immediately at least. While a long term solution might end the industry permanently by fixing the economy. Tbh this is why Im not a politician, I dont want to make these choices.

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It's already legal here. Some of the people in this topic are weird. Americans and sex hangups, name a more iconic duo.

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zinezinzadan posted...

I totally hear you. You feel Legalizing will alleviate something immediately at least. While a long term solution might end the industry permanently by fixing the economy. Tbh this is why Im not a politician, I dont want to make these choices.

Yeah. Same. Also, I can't talk proper enough. Then again, that doesn't seem to matter anymore. You almost need to be a little full of yourself to feel you're the one who should make the big choices that effect everyone. But there's definitely a balance.

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zinezinzadan posted...

Theyre going to exist because they feel like they had no other Avenue to create good income. Truthfully, thats the issue. We should elect officials who make the economy and prosperity of the citizens their priority. It will fix so much more than prostitution. There are European countries where the minimum wage was $15/hr many years ago. What is the USA and so much of the world doing.. I feel heart broken for any woman that resorts to this. Its not right and we should do something that permanently ends industries thats degrade men and women.

I truly value human lives, and the only way I could base my decision on this is if I truly believe they wouldnt be happy in legalized prostitution. You know? :/ I just saw a documentary of a girl doing prostitution in a 1st world country. I saw snippets, I forgot if it was legal or not but it seemed legal. Shes broken, she met really shitty dudes when doing business. I think it was legal because they had a rating system for customers, so that you dont end up with an abusive person. Its on YouTube from Vice. Horrible. If that girl had a better way to make money, she would never disrespect her dignity. I know youre joking about your mom. None of us would wish this line of work for anyone we sensibly cared about.

There are sex workers who enjoy being sex workers.

You're just assuming it's all bad for all of them because you have an issue with sex work. You'd still have that issue if it was completely safe.

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Evening_Dragon posted...

There are sex workers who enjoy being sex workers.

You're just assuming it's all bad for all of them because you have an issue with sex work. You'd still have that issue if it was completely safe.

And you're assuming just as much, if not more.

Joshua0286591 posted...

And you're assuming just as much, if not more.

He's free to tell me otherwise, alt.

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Decrim

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Evening_Dragon posted...

He's free to tell me otherwise, alt.

Hey, I'm just calling you out on your hypocrisy. Accuse others of assuming, when you were the first to do so.

ssjevot posted...

name a more iconic duo.

Homophobic politicians and gay sex workers.

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Joshua0286591 posted...

Hey, I'm just calling you out on your hypocrisy. Accuse others of assuming, when you were the first to do so.

Okay, alt. Get on your main and prove me wrong.

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If it helps put pimps out of business and allows the workers to do it more safely, than go for it.

ArianaGrandSlam posted...

good thing the Army doesnt exist and doesnt prey on millions of vulnerable young men every year

dayum

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Evening_Dragon posted...

There are sex workers who enjoy being sex workers.

You're just assuming it's all bad for all of them because you have an issue with sex work. You'd still have that issue if it was completely safe.

I have an issue with the clientele of sex work. If there was somebody that truly enjoyed sex work, good for them. But the people willing to pay for sex don't come from the safest of mental capacities. Therefore you are always in danger locking yourself in private with people. I already know you're going to reply with "But that applies to every job, even a manager of a store can get raped when everyone is leaving and someone catches her alone". And I will ignore you once you make that comment.

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I disagree with war, precisely because of your thought process, as is mine. You know why kids go and fight for dumbass politicians? You guessed it... If our economy was great, most of them wouldn't need the military benefits, which is literally the majority of people's reason for joining, as documented by every single one of my friends who are serving.

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Selling sex is legal but buying sex and forcing someone to sell sex is illegal in my country. This makes it easier for people who are being sold to come forward and seek help from the authorities.

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Regulated brothels should be legal, but street prostitution should remain banned

its got nothing to do with controlling what consenting adults do with their bodies either. The fact of the matter is, legalised prostitution increases the rate of human trafficking. You would think legalising prostitution would have the opposite effect, but it doesnt.

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zinezinzadan posted...

I have an issue with the clientele of sex work. If there was somebody that truly enjoyed sex work, good for them. But the people willing to pay for sex don't come from the safest of mental capacities. Therefore you are always in danger locking yourself in private with people. I already know you're going to reply with "But that applies to every job, even a manager of a store can get raped when everyone is leaving and someone catches her alone". And I will ignore you once you make that comment.

As this topic has been going on about, making it legal would make it far safer. You're never, ever going to get rid of sex work, may as well make it better for sex workers. Why are you against that? Why do you keep dodging that notion?

For that matter, your statement about sex customers having "unsafe mental capacities": Where did you get that from?

I disagree with war, precisely because of your thought process, as is mine. You know why kids go and fight for dumbass politicians? You guessed it... If our economy was great, most of them wouldn't need the military benefits, which is literally the majority of people's reason for joining, as documented by every single one of my friends who are serving.

Ditto for war: being Against it doesn't change that it'll happen.

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Nah, pretty much every system of prostitution that's ever existed has resulted in lots of harm done to lots of people.

Countries which have decriminalised but not legalised it along with criminalizing the buyers appear to see the lowest levels of harm done, so that's probably the best way to go.

Half these escorts racist anyways (oh no AA allowed) I say screw them

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Legalize it.

This does many things that are excellent for everyone.

1) Legitimate business gets taxed. Government makes money.

2) Legitimate business has health checks and police protection, very important of the business.

3) Legitimate business cuts right through the human trafficking that exists in the sex trade.

4) The only reason it isn't is a lame morality argument that makes no sense. Why is it moral to sell and consume alcohol which legit kills mother fuckers every few minutes, while it is immoral for two consenting adults to engage in a sexual act?

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For a country that likes to bang on about freedom a lot America sure hates legal prostitution

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For a country that boasts about "freedom", everyone would rather slave at a 9-5 instead of developing specialized skills to generate their own income. And "sex" is no specialized skill. It's a recreational activity for killing time. And in zealous cases, a sanctimonious one.

pinky0926 posted...

For a country that likes to bang on about freedom a lot America sure hates legal prostitution

Yeah, well for a first-world country that prides in technology, the masses would rather indulge in memes all day rather than access the expansive library of scholorly studies readily available at our fingertips.
Evening_Dragon posted...

Okay, alt. Get on your main and prove me wrong.

Assuming once again? lol I did prove you wrong, now and then, you're just ignorant. You're making this too easy.

I swear, the arguments made in favor of legalizing this "trade" are so assumptious. Study psychology and actually research the human trafficking business, and the consequnces of mental health directly associated with its "clients"; not to mention - their "employees".

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

4) The only reason it isn't is a lame morality argument that makes no sense. Why is it moral to sell and consume alcohol which legit kills mother fuckers every few minutes, while it is immoral for two consenting adults to engage in a sexual act?

Legalizing it will only produce the same problem: overindulgence. If it is deemed acceptable, what would stop somebody from paying for sex rather than their rent? Many already invest too much of their funds on alcohol that undermines the sustenance of a healthy life, and mentality.

Legality is what makes people consider the repercussions of getting caught. If there are no punishments, then people will indulge. If you could just "fuck for pay", what would encourage you to pursue any other line of work? Shit is easy.

And on the topic of morality, it ISN'T moral to monopolize and encourage alcoholism, but it is legal.

sure, as long as you don't force people to do it!

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Yes

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Joshua0286591 posted...

We have to consider that people are coerced, or worse (forced), into this line of work.

If made legal, "recruitment" via manipulation would run rampant with profit-seeking employers (aka pimps).

Plus, every (wo)man could essentially charge any partner legally, unless official licenses or whatnot are required.

"I'm a legal escort. Here's my business card. You're my wife/husband, but you gotta pay to get some."

And depending on an employee's position in regards to protection, there would be more cases of abortion - or born, unwanted children.

I feel it should be legal but a lot of wrinkles need to be ironed out to help prevent issues like which you speak of before we just snap our fingers and make it legal. Just cause you cant 100% prevent it though doesnt mean it shouldnt happen because hell some of those issues exist with it being illegal already. I feel the coercion would be easier to track and punish if done by legal companies. Especially with the me too movement making at least some women more willing to come forth with allegations.

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The Trent posted...

sure, as long as you don't force people to do it!

we're gonna make EVERYONE have SEX!!!11!!!1!

Joshua0286591 posted...

Plus, every (wo)man could essentially charge any partner legally, unless official licenses or whatnot are required.

"I'm a legal escort. Here's my business card. You're my wife/husband, but you gotta pay to get some."

lmfao what an argument

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as long as safe sex is practiced, like how teenagers practice safe sex

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Choco posted...

lmfao what an argument

Glad it made you laugh.

I am all for it being legalized and regulated

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