Current Events > Polygon gives Cyberpunk 2077 a negative review.

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https://www.polygon.com/reviews/22158019/cyberpunk-2077-review-cd-projekt-red-pc-ps4-xbox-one-stadia

One of the first things they mention is how gender pronouns are handled.

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CRON posted...

One of the first things they mention is how gender pronouns are handled.

lmao

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the reviewer doesnt even start to describe the actual game until the 8th paragraph, the first 7 paragraphs are all the reviewer complaining about the gender politics of the game because of her own insecurities lol

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Is this review just wokesplaining or is it actually sincere?
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I mean it sounds like a legitimate complaint
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https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/cyberpunk-2077?ref=hp

Christ, this is going to be a reverse TLOU2 situation ie. joke critics aren't impressed; general audience likes it.

Polygon is fucking trash even moreso than Kotaku btw


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Bio1590 posted...

I mean it sounds like a legitimate complaint

Ok after reading it. I kinda agree with you.

I was expecting wokesplaining from an easily offended person, but that game genuinely tried to appeal to non binary people so critism of the way it's handled is fine.
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Is the game even fun to play?

Lol polygon

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Is the game even fun to play?

Game "journalists" don't talk about that anymore.

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Wake up SamuraI/He/Him we got a city to burn

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epik_fail1 posted...

Is this review just wokesplaining or is it actually sincere?

I'll give you a hint. This is the piece the author wrote before this one:
https://www.polygon.com/2020/11/9/21556708/watch-dogs-legion-queer-identity

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AmericaTheBrave posted...

Game "journalists" don't talk about that anymore.

I was looking all over for gameplay discussion and couldn't find anything. What a crazy world we live in today.

Bio1590 posted...

I mean it sounds like a legitimate complaint

It's better than I thought it would be, I thought it would be about the constant delays lol

So basically the game should be mindless action and reviewers should not comment or critique the games gross mishandlings of trans issues? Fuck off. People have legimate concerns about the way the game handles trans issues and looks like we were right. But, hey, cool cyberpunk stuff yay!

Remember when Gamers were desperate to have games classified as art?

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ThunderTrain posted...

Wake up SamuraI/He/Him we got a city to burn

Lol

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AlmightyCheeks posted...

Lol

Wait did you just assume xe's gender? You're a WHITE MALE! I'm going to go write an angry tweet!

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This was a complaint that was noted months ago and they've not changed, so... seems 100% fair to call them out. Coupled with their awful history with this subject, it seems pretty obvious they don't really want to handle it properly.

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Toger posted...

Wait did you just assume xe's gender? You're a WHITE MALE! I'm going to go write an angry tweet!

Making dumbass jokes like this doesnt do you any favors

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Funkydog posted...

This was a complaint that was noted months ago and they've not changed, so... seems 100% fair to call them out. Coupled with their awful history with this subject, it seems pretty obvious they don't really want to handle it properly.

Nobody cares. The game allows you to change your gender, has black people and lations in major roles and a trans person featured on ads. WHAT THE FUCK MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?!

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Toger posted...

Nobody cares. The game allows you to change your gender, has black people and lations in major roles and a trans person featured on ads. WHAT THE FUCK MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?!

Effort?

Oh I see, being transphobic is your gimmick

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Toger posted...

Nobody cares. The game allows you to change your gender, has black people and lations in major roles and a trans person featured on ads. WHAT THE FUCK MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?!

I hope you feel embarrassed about this piss poor trolling effort. It's boring as fuck.

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Blue_Inigo posted...

Oh I see, being transphobic is your gimmick

No, I'm not transphobic. Nothing against them and actually I support them. I'm upset at the blatant destruction of my game. No person here is as big of a fan as I am of the genre and this game. To see my favorite game hijacked and destroyed by people who dont even care about it just pissses me off.

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This game is now on my must-buy list at full price. I hate how games now have to pander to everyone and everything.

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Toger posted...

No, I'm not transphobic.

Your previous posts indicate this is a blatant lie, alt

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It seems like a fair complaint to me.

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The people the care care. That's the point of reviews. Like if you don't give a fuck about Trans issues, you can safely ignore the review of someone who does if they're basing their review on it. But it's there for people who DO care about it, AKA polygon's audience. That's who they are writing to, because that is who is going to primarily read it.

Quit being literal man babies

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3PiesAndAFork posted...

This game is now on my must-buy list at full price. I hate how games now have to pander to everyone and everything.

The world is full of people who arent just white men ya know

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Wow, remember when Polygon was a legit site?

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Jagr_68 posted...

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/cyberpunk-2077

Christ, this is going to be a reverse TLOU2 situation ie. joke critics aren't impressed; general audience likes it.

Polygon is fucking trash even moreso than Kotaku btw

What about GamerSyde.com ??
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AdviceMan posted...

The people the care care. That's the point of reviews. Like if you don't give a fuck about Trans issues, you can safely ignore the review of someone who does if they're basing their review on it. But it's there for people who DO care about it, AKA polygon's audience. That's who they are writing to, because that is who is going to primarily read it.

Quit being literal man babies

Yeah it's really odd how some people take this review so personally

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Also, this doesn't seem like a negative review as much as a "wish it could be more" review.

Aka, decent but not great.

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Imagine taking Polygon seriously

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Funkydog posted...

This was a complaint that was noted months ago and they've not changed, so... seems 100% fair to call them out. Coupled with their awful history with this subject, it seems pretty obvious they don't really want to handle it properly.

Real talk: the game is months delayed and supposedly riddled with bugs. At what point, and how much effort, are they supposed to divert from fixing core gameplay issues to fix a minor cosmetic issue that was only added in the first place because people complained about them having a male female binary choice at the beginning?

Like, I'm all for suggesting that they put in a patch later, but in the grand scheme of the work that has to get done and with consideration for the fact that they are already delayed and already working nights and weekends, where was that effort going to come from?

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Smackems posted...

Lol polygon

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>polygon

edit: literally written by Carylon Petit aka GTA V was politically incorrect so i deducted a point

figures they'd give a transwoman the game to review lmao

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s0nicfan posted...

Real talk: the game is months delayed and supposedly riddled with bugs. At what point, and how much effort, are they supposed to divert from fixing core gameplay issues to fix a minor cosmetic issue that was only added in the first place because people complained about them having a male female binary choice at the beginning?

Like, I'm all for suggesting that they put in a patch later, but in the grand scheme of the work that has to get done and with consideration for the fact that they are already delayed and already working nights and weekends, where was that effort going to come from?

I very much doubt the people writing the script are the same people who are doing the coding(and bug fixing).

And if they are, it could explain why the game was delayed so long.

ElatedVenusaur posted...

I very much doubt the people writing the script are the same people who are doing the coding(and bug fixing).

And if they are, it could explain why the game was delayed so long.

One of the complaints is that the pronouns that characters use when you talk to them is based on what voice you pick. That's definitely a coding issue.

Other complaints like the significance or lack thereof of main storyline trans characters mostly comes down to personal preference. Even the issue brought up of trans characters being sexualized seems like a non-complaint in a dystopian future where sex is used to sell everything and people can hot swap their genitals.

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i'm not reading anything is the tl dr moral of the story to not try to involve trans stuff because you'll do it wrong and make things even worse?

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The Trent posted...

i'm not reading anything is the tl dr moral of the story to not try to involve trans stuff because you'll do it wrong and make things even worse?

Close:
"where's my inclusion?!" vs. "you did it wrong!!!"

Polygon and Kotaku are not gaming websites anymore, they only exist to push a far left liberal agenda.

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Polygon never fails to disappoint.

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s0nicfan posted...

One of the complaints is that the pronouns that characters use when you talk to them is based on what voice you pick. That's definitely a coding issue.

Other complaints like the significance or lack thereof of main storyline trans characters mostly comes down to personal preference. Even the issue brought up of trans characters being sexualized seems like a non-complaint in a dystopian future where sex is used to sell everything and people can hot swap their genitals.

That's not a coding issue, that's a game design issue that was a deliberately made choice.
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...

reportqu

right on que. Trans rights are important. Or are you suggesting they aren't?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Close:
"where's my inclusion?!" vs. "you did it wrong!!!"

Inclusion where the trans folk are treated like freaks. Just admit you don't give a shit and want cool edgy played straight cyberpunk GTA. You don't want an intelligent look at a future dystopia.

Bio1590 posted...

That's not a coding issue, that's a game design issue that was a deliberately made choice.

No, the deliberate choice they made at design time was to just let you pick male or female. It wasn't until relatively recently that people complained that they weren't being inclusive enough, so they had to retroactively change character creation. That created a new problem, though, because of all the spoken dialogue. They needed to find a way to let NPCs know how to address you, but the option that used to do that was removed. Since NPC's don't automatically know what kind of junk you have, they picked voice as the way to do it. Obviously that wasn't a perfect solution, but it was never part of their original design to begin with.

Edit: for context, here's what the lead concept artist on the game had to say
https://thenextweb.com/gaming/2019/08/27/cyberpunk-2077s-character-creation-system-wont-have-gender-options/

Of course, if you tackle certain subjects then you will expect people to have an opinion about it and we respect that. And its good that people give us feedback. And our character creation menu, for instance, compared to the last demo we now give you so many more options. For instance, you dont choose your gender anymore.

You dont choose, I want to be a female or male character you now choose a body type. Because we want you to feel free to create any character you want. So you choose your body type and we have two voices, one thats male sounding, one is female sounding. You can mix and match. You can just connect them any way you want. And then we have a lot of extra skin tones and tattoos and hairstyles. So we really want to give people the freedom to make their own character and play the way they want to play.

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Temporal posted...

>polygon

edit: literally written by Carylon Petit aka GTA V was politically incorrect so i deducted a point

figures they'd give a transwoman the game to review lmao

Wow, could you be any more transphobic? Lol, just fucking amazing. Trans folk have issues with the game critique it and then get yelled and screamed at by man-children like you. How dare these people critique my games! Why can't they just go away?!

You even have people in here making gender jokes. No wonder why all the alt-right gamers are obessed with this game. CDPR give them fuel and acknowledge they support, no, love marginalizing minorities and transfolk.

This board is such fucking trash.

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Jagr_68 posted...

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/cyberpunk-2077?ref=hp

Christ, this is going to be a reverse TLOU2 situation ie. joke critics aren't impressed; general audience likes it.

Polygon is fucking trash even moreso than Kotaku btw

I find this comment weird because the general audience hasn't even played it and most reviews are positive.

s0nicfan posted...

Other complaints like the significance or lack thereof of main storyline trans characters mostly comes down to personal preference. Even the issue brought up of trans characters being sexualized seems like a non-complaint in a dystopian future where sex is used to sell everything and people can hot swap their genitals.

The issue according to the Gamespot review is you have ads with trans fetishism but nothing in the world that backs it up. Which seems like a valid criticism?

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