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Lebronwon 11/25/20 11:40:32 PM #1: |
https://www.newsweek.com/jordan-peterson-book-prompts-tears-publishing-staff-1550114
Employees at Penguin Random House Canada reportedly cried over the publisher's decision to publish Jordan Peterson's new book during a town hall meeting. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist self-styled as the "professor against political correctness," announced his new book Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life will be released in March 2021 in a YouTube video on Monday. Vice reported that the news sparked an outcry at Canada's biggest book publisher, with some staffers confronting management in a bid to cancel the book's release. Dozens more filed anonymous complaints about the book, the report said. Four Penguin Random House Canada employees told Vice that the company was secretive about Peterson's book and it didn't appear in an internal database that usually includes all upcoming releases. They said that at the internal town hall on Monday, publishing executives defended the decision to publish Peterson, while employees aired their grievances. "He is an icon of hate speech and transphobia and the fact that he's an icon of white supremacy, regardless of the content of his book, I'm not proud to work for a company that publishes him," one employee, who is a member of the LGBTQ community, told Vice. Another said "people were crying in the meeting about how Jordan Peterson has affected their lives." One staffer said Peterson had "radicalized" their father, while another said publishing his new book "will negatively affect their non-binary friend." Peterson is known for his divisive views on political and cultural issues, after rising to prominence over his refusal to use gender-neutral pronouns in 2016. His book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos sold more than five million copies worldwide, according to Penguin Random House. In a statement to Vice, Penguin Random House Canada said it was "committed to publishing a range of voices and viewpoints." Peterson's daughter Mikhaila Peterson tweeted the article, adding that the "crying adults" should be identified and fired. Conservative pundit Candace Owens also called for the employees to be terminated. "I have never understood business owners being 'confronted' by employees making demands," she tweeted. "As a business-owner, I simply cannot relate. That's a fast-track to unemployment for those of us that have a spine. I didn't build my businesses for entitled brats to tell me how to run it." --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 11/25/20 11:42:07 PM #2: |
Oh for fuck's sake. Is everyone a mental child now?
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gamer167 11/25/20 11:45:02 PM #3: |
Cry more pls
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Atralis 11/25/20 11:45:56 PM #4: |
I don't doubt that this happened but Jordan Peterson is basically the vanillaist ice cream. If someone quits over this then you are better off cutting them loose because if they sue you they will lose super hard because what they see as offensive is generally seen as mild in any of the countries they work in and Jordan Peterson sells stuff in.
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Solid Snake07 11/25/20 11:47:13 PM #6: |
Who are these jellyfish?
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Dyinglegacy 11/25/20 11:47:43 PM #7: |
Literally cried or just whined and bitched
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Esrac 11/26/20 12:08:59 AM #8: |
I get that people can dump on Peterson, but come on. There is nothing radicalizing about his rhetoric. It's pretty much milquetoast, moderately conservative stuff.
Calling him an icon of white supremacy is pretty ridiculous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CaptainMarvel95 11/26/20 12:12:21 AM #9: |
These staffers are american patriots, Peterson is a fascist piece of shit.
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ToPoPO 11/26/20 12:15:45 AM #10: |
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!!
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ColdOne666 11/26/20 12:18:21 AM #11: |
What a bunch of crybabies lol.
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flamedearflame 11/26/20 12:30:05 AM #12: |
White supremacy? Are we taking about the same Jordan Peterson here?
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pfh1001 11/26/20 12:33:09 AM #13: |
Vyrulisse posted...
Oh for fuck's sake. Is everyone a mental child now? Yes, sadly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Temporal 11/26/20 12:33:32 AM #14: |
"icon of white supremacists" lmao
pretty sure i've seen plenty of alt-righter morons despising him because he tries to teach white males individualism instead of collectivism. --- all you have is your fire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 11/26/20 12:37:39 AM #15: |
Temporal posted...
"icon of white supremacists" lmao The claims that Peterson is some right wing arch-villain always ring hollow to me, because I've seen how right wingers frequently like to mock him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Temporal 11/26/20 12:38:50 AM #16: |
Esrac posted...
The claims that Peterson is some right wing arch-villain always ring hollow to me, because I've seen how right wingers frequently like to mock him. i mean, i've literally seen him referred as "Juden Peterstein" because he's friends with the likes of Ben Shapiro, Sam Harris, etc --- all you have is your fire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 11/26/20 1:29:55 AM #17: |
As a british asian, I love Jordan Peterson. Everytime he talks he just instantly makes sense to me. Not many people can do that.
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Lorenzo_2003 11/26/20 1:42:31 AM #18: |
This should not be news.
Fire them or ask for their resignations. They will have free time to apply at businesses that do not support Jordan Peterson. Its a win-win for both parties. --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 11/26/20 1:53:12 AM #19: |
I completely understand the transphobia accusations and I think there are sexist aspects in his work too. A lot of those things aren't supported by evidence, he often likes to jump from claims that have evidence to tangential conclusions that would never fly in actual peer reviewed work but YouTube and popular science publications won't be affected.
That said the white supremacy stuff feels like buzzwords. I hate when people just generically attack someone without thinking about whether or not the attack has merit. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rhylos 11/26/20 2:01:46 AM #20: |
JP: clean your room
Everyone: wow what a insane thing to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heavy_D_Forever 11/26/20 2:05:05 AM #21: |
It feels like there's an entire generation of whiny crybabies who can't handle anyone thinking differently than they do.
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CaptainMarvel95 11/26/20 2:26:03 AM #22: |
Rhylos posted...
JP: Women shouldn't complain about being sexually harassed if they wear makeup to work.Fixed it for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 11/26/20 3:16:37 AM #23: |
CaptainMarvel95 posted...
Fixed it for you. If you think that's what he said you have issues with comprehension. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 11/26/20 3:17:49 AM #24: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted...
It feels like there's an entire generation of whiny crybabies who can't handle anyone thinking differently than they do. Thats really a combination between a lack of consequence our culture now pushes and the power social media gives to complete idiots. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/26/20 3:21:03 AM #25: |
Employees expressing disagreement with actions taken by their company = crying
Daughter of author expressing that such employees should be fired = not crying? --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 11/26/20 3:21:54 AM #26: |
Lmao what a bunch of pussies
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Pandamonic 11/26/20 3:42:38 AM #27: |
Eh, doesn't surprise me. I mean, safe spaces are a thing. These people are really stupid.
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ChopinList 11/26/20 8:21:58 AM #28: |
Lebronwon posted...
another said publishing his new book "will negatively affect their non-binary friend." lol --- I for one welcome our new computer overlords ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 11/26/20 8:28:49 AM #29: |
Nothing wrong with personal opinion. People are allowed to complain. It won't change that the book is published.
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monkmith 11/26/20 8:29:33 AM #30: |
is peterson the guy who likes to debate random people on the street and then make a hot take video with all the times he gets destroyed cut out?
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IShall_Run_Amok 11/26/20 8:55:58 AM #31: |
They probably shouldn't be publishing the book.
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masticatingman 11/26/20 9:56:06 AM #32: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
They probably shouldn't be publishing the book.It will make them money so... --- Fervent appearing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 11/26/20 9:58:16 AM #33: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
They probably shouldn't be publishing the book.Free market. Now companies can choose what they publish or not so I may not agree but they have every right to publish it. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/26/20 10:24:26 AM #34: |
creativerealms posted...
This is such a weird response. Nobody has claimed otherwise, but for some reason "free speech motherfucker" is such a common response to people being criticized for things they say. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 11/26/20 10:42:58 AM #35: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
This is such a weird response. Nobody has claimed otherwise, but for some reason "free speech motherfucker" is such a common response to people being criticized for things they say.I am pro-criticism. It's pretty much my whole thing. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vicious_Dios 11/26/20 10:47:01 AM #36: |
These crybies are definitely accelerating the dilution of our collective gene-pool.
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KyerWiz 11/26/20 10:57:37 AM #37: |
Jordan Peterson likes "exploring ideas". Problem is a lot of those ideas are ridiculous for a number of reasons but he rarely bothers pointing that out until he's being confronted about it.
Then, some people will agree with those ideas and will repeat them. And, really, people who like to listen to Jordan Peterson can't shut up about him. Usually, it doesn't go any farther than that. In some cases however, they'll start digger deeper and fall further and further down the alt-right, incel or whatever else hole. He's similar to Rogan in a way, an "introduction to potentially terrible ideas". Obviously, they both differ very much in how they do it as Peterson is very well-read about what he's talking about while Rogan is an ignorant buffoon who will invite anyone and let them say anything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 11/26/20 12:23:06 PM #38: |
KyerWiz posted...
Then, some people will agree with those ideas and will repeat them. And, really, people who like to listen to Jordan Peterson can't shut up about him. Usually, it doesn't go any farther than that. In some cases however, they'll start digger deeper and fall further and further down the alt-right, incel or whatever else hole. Geezus, this sounds like some conspiracy theory shit. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlmightyCheeks 11/26/20 12:26:29 PM #39: |
Vyrulisse posted...
Oh for fuck's sake. Is everyone a mental child now?Yeah and sadly they get attention for it --- Gamertag: ALMIGHTY CHEEKS ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 11/26/20 12:51:03 PM #40: |
ssjevot posted...
I completely understand the transphobia accusations and I think there are sexist aspects in his work too. A lot of those things aren't supported by evidence, he often likes to jump from claims that have evidence to tangential conclusions that would never fly in actual peer reviewed work but YouTube and popular science publications won't be affected. Like I said, its pretty moderate conservative stuff. Being mildly transphobic or sexist doesn't really equate to being alt-right, white supremacist, etc. monkmith posted... is peterson the guy who likes to debate random people on the street and then make a hot take video with all the times he gets destroyed cut out? I think you're thinking of Steven Crowder. DeadBankerDream posted... Employees expressing disagreement with actions taken by their company = crying To be fair, checking other articles about this, some of the employees were apparently literally in tears during their objection. That is, they aren't using "crying employees" as a hyperbolic dig for employees complaining, but that some of them were actually crying. DeadBankerDream posted... This is such a weird response. Nobody has claimed otherwise, but for some reason "free speech motherfucker" is such a common response to people being criticized for things they say. To be fair, he was responding to a post that was saying the book shouldn't be published at all, rather than a criticism. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/26/20 12:52:22 PM #41: |
I'm not a fan of censorship, if you don't like the guy's book then don't buy it
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kurdt032 11/26/20 12:52:55 PM #42: |
Thought he was dead. Still, won't be long.
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SpiritSephiroth 11/26/20 1:56:41 PM #43: |
Didnt a bunch of employees have a bitch fit at spotify over Joe Rogans podcast? Seems to be an infestation of complete idiots.
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IShall_Run_Amok 11/26/20 3:35:05 PM #44: |
SpiritSephiroth posted...
Didnt a bunch of employees have a b**** fit at spotify over Joe Rogans podcast?One should hope so. --- sent from microsoft waffle iron. help let me out ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook20 11/26/20 4:37:12 PM #45: |
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