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The Trent 11/15/20 10:31:01 AM #1:	and what's offensive about the term? is it that indians didn't actually sit that way? is it that we're referring to them as indians instead of native americans? is it that pigeonholing them into one sitting style isn't fair? criss-cross applesauce is just some rhyming nonsense, i could call it crosslegged eggshed and that would rhyme too --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947192068] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>and what's offensive about the term? is it that indians didn't actually sit that way? is it that we're referring to them as indians instead of native americans? is it that pigeonholing them into one sitting style isn't fair? criss-cross applesauce is just some rhyming nonsense, i could call it crosslegged eggshed and that would rhyme too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 11/15/20 10:32:27 AM #2:	Idk just call it sitting cross-legged like an adult. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:947192107] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Idk just call it sitting cross-legged like an adult. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 11/15/20 10:32:30 AM #3:	I don't feel strongly one way or the other, but hearing a bunch of small children call it crisscross applesauce is honestly adorable af --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:947192108] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>I don't feel strongly one way or the other, but hearing a bunch of small children call it crisscross applesauce is honestly adorable af </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 10:33:15 AM #4:	justaguy3492 posted... Idk just call it sitting cross-legged like an adult. hey buddy you can't force me to adult! --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947192124] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>justaguy3492 posted... </cite> <quote>Idk just call it sitting cross-legged like an adult.</quote> hey buddy you can't force me to adult! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/15/20 10:34:16 AM #6:	then why didn't it morph to "native american style" instead? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947192146] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>then why didn't it morph to "native american style" instead? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 11/15/20 10:34:29 AM #7:	I'm still waiting for bone head's turn --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:947192154] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>I'm still waiting for bone head's turn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbstraktProfSC2 11/15/20 10:35:02 AM #8:	Kind of a Karen thing to be offended by tbh --- Talk about backseat fishing. highpathetic <cite>AbstraktProfSC2 posted [p:947192170] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Kind of a Karen thing to be offended by tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 11/15/20 10:35:05 AM #9:	--- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:947192172] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 11/15/20 10:35:10 AM #10:	I grew up right next to a native reservation, they have never had an issue calling it sitting Indian style so it must have been white people. They do understandably however hate the term Indian giver --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:947192174] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>I grew up right next to a native reservation, they have never had an issue calling it sitting Indian style so it must have been white people. They do understandably however hate the term Indian giver </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/15/20 10:36:20 AM #12:	BignutzisBack posted... They do understandably however hate the term Indian giver well that term is used purely as an insult "indian style" is simply describing a way of sitting --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947192203] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>BignutzisBack posted... </cite> <quote>They do understandably however hate the term Indian giver</quote> well that term is used purely as an insult "indian style" is simply describing a way of sitting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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2SweetforTurtle 11/15/20 10:44:43 AM #14:	My only beef with the phrase is theres like no freaking way that in thousands of years nobody in europe thought to sit that way. How is such a natural position to sit in something that was discovered in the new world? It just seems ridiculous. Idk it just seems implausible --- Slow and steady wins the race <cite>2SweetforTurtle posted [p:947192437] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>My only beef with the phrase is theres like no freaking way that in thousands of years nobody in europe thought to sit that way. How is such a natural position to sit in something that was discovered in the new world? It just seems ridiculous. Idk it just seems implausible </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 10:45:52 AM #15:	2SweetforTurtle posted... My only beef with the phrase is theres like no freaking way that in thousands of years nobody in europe thought to sit that way. How is such a natural position to sit in something that was discovered in the new world? It just seems ridiculous. Idk it just seems implausible maybe it was just smaller cloisters vs an entire people's way of sitting? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947192462] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>2SweetforTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>My only beef with the phrase is theres like no freaking way that in thousands of years nobody in europe thought to sit that way. How is such a natural position to sit in something that was discovered in the new world? It just seems ridiculous. Idk it just seems implausible</quote> maybe it was just smaller cloisters vs an entire people's way of sitting? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ghettoraider81 11/15/20 10:46:46 AM #16:	Indian style is referring to people from actual India. --- Win, lose, or tie Oakland Raiders til I die! WHY'S THE RUM GONE! S.M.O.K.E my anti sXe <cite>ghettoraider81 posted [p:947192484] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Indian style is referring to people from actual India. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 11/15/20 10:47:11 AM #17:	Honestly, growing up I always assumed it was referring to people in India, because Dhalsim sits that way --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:947192496] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, growing up I always assumed it was referring to people in India, because Dhalsim sits that way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 10:47:15 AM #18:	ghettoraider81 posted... Indian style is referring to people from actual India. okay so then why is THAT offensive? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947192498] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>ghettoraider81 posted... </cite> <quote>Indian style is referring to people from actual India.</quote> okay so then why is THAT offensive? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ghettoraider81 11/15/20 10:48:54 AM #19:	The Trent posted... okay so then why is THAT offensive? Its not, which is why its stupid. Its seen as offensive because people incorrectly assume its referring to Native Americans. Its actually based on the yoga position Lotus. --- Win, lose, or tie Oakland Raiders til I die! WHY'S THE RUM GONE! S.M.O.K.E my anti sXe <cite>ghettoraider81 posted [p:947192544] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>The Trent posted... </cite> <quote>okay so then why is THAT offensive?</quote> Its not, which is why its stupid. Its seen as offensive because people incorrectly assume its referring to Native Americans. Its actually based on the yoga position Lotus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 10:49:17 AM #20:	bryfang seemed pretty confident in his approach though! --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947192557] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>bryfang seemed pretty confident in his approach though! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 11/15/20 10:50:19 AM #21:	1.d4 Nf6 is called an Indian game in chess --- https://imgur.com/u5kY6Yt https://imgur.com/V6HBhkR <cite>Doe posted [p:947192582] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>1.d4 Nf6 is called an Indian game in chess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 10:50:55 AM #22:	Doe posted... 1.d4 Nf6 is called an Indian game in chess i won't tell anyone, they'll change it to "move smoove attack groove" instead --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947192595] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>1.d4 Nf6 is called an Indian game in chess</quote> i won't tell anyone, they'll change it to "move smoove attack groove" instead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 11/15/20 10:51:53 AM #23:	The Trent posted... okay so then why is THAT offensive? because it stereotypes Indians as snake charmers <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:947192614] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>The Trent posted...</cite> <quote> okay so then why is THAT offensive? </quote> because it stereotypes Indians as snake charmers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 11/15/20 10:52:15 AM #24:	ghettoraider81 posted... Indian style is referring to people from actual India. TIL. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:947192626] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>ghettoraider81 posted... </cite> <quote>Indian style is referring to people from actual India.</quote>TIL. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/15/20 11:07:40 AM #26:	so we aren't even sure WHO we're offending with the term? perhaps no one? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947193044] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>so we aren't even sure WHO we're offending with the term? perhaps no one? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 11/15/20 11:09:12 AM #27:	Why does anyone have to be offended --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:947193085] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Why does anyone have to be offended </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 11:10:24 AM #28:	was it not changed because it was found offensive? why was it deemed necessary to change to "criss cross applesauce"? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947193118] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>was it not changed because it was found offensive? why was it deemed necessary to change to "criss cross applesauce"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BobLoblaw_ 11/15/20 11:11:06 AM #29:	Who is offended though? --- http://bob-loblaws-law-blog.blogspot.com/ <cite>BobLoblaw_ posted [p:947193139] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Who is offended though? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Trent 11/15/20 11:14:48 AM #31:	Bryfang posted... The fact that it's automatically assumed to be Native Americans by most people easily defaults it to them. Cowboys and Indians, Indian Burn, Indian Style, Indian Giving; I mean, how many nicknames do Americans have with "Indian" in it that actually are referring to people from India? indian bull --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947193242] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Bryfang posted... </cite> <quote>The fact that it's automatically assumed to be Native Americans by most people easily defaults it to them. Cowboys and Indians, Indian Burn, Indian Style, Indian Giving; I mean, how many nicknames do Americans have with "Indian" in it that actually are referring to people from India?</quote> indian bull </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrettyBoyFloyd 11/15/20 11:16:42 AM #33:	Indigenous Style --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:947193298] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Indigenous Style </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 11:17:33 AM #34:	i'd totally get this if there was even some kind of negative connotation to it like "savage style" but what the fuck --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947193316] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>i'd totally get this if there was even some kind of negative connotation to it like "savage style" but what the fuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 11/15/20 11:18:39 AM #35:	because again it stereotypes all indians as snake chamers <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:947193356] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>because again it stereotypes all indians as snake chamers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 11:19:30 AM #36:	that sounds awesome though and still not a negative? i wish everyone thought my people had the power to command snakes instead of just be indigent and make delicious swamp foods --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947193384] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>that sounds awesome though and still not a negative? i wish everyone thought my people had the power to command snakes instead of just be indigent and make delicious swamp foods </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 11/15/20 11:20:00 AM #37:	The Trent posted... that sounds awesome though case in point of why it's racist <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:947193407] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>The Trent posted...</cite> <quote>that sounds awesome though </quote> case in point of why it's racist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 11/15/20 11:20:29 AM #38:	criss cross applesauce --- //constant loneliness// --- Steam and Fortnite: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:947193424] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>criss cross applesauce </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbstraktProfSC2 11/15/20 11:25:27 AM #39:	lol how tf are we saying all indians are snake charmers by calling it indian style just because snake charmers sometimes sit indian style too? --- Talk about backseat fishing. highpathetic <cite>AbstraktProfSC2 posted [p:947193582] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>lol how tf are we saying all indians are snake charmers by calling it indian style just because snake charmers sometimes sit indian style too? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beemo_Season11 11/15/20 11:27:40 AM #40:	Whats next, folding paper hotdog style? <cite>Beemo_Season11 posted [p:947193646] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Whats next, folding paper hotdog style? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 11/15/20 11:28:04 AM #41:	AbstraktProfSC2 posted... lol how tf are we saying all indians are snake charmers by calling it indian style just because snake charmers sometimes sit indian style too? Because that's what it originated from the stereotype that Indians have the ability to charm snakes and as part of the 'magic' they sat like that <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:947193658] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>AbstraktProfSC2 posted...</cite> <quote>lol how tf are we saying all indians are snake charmers by calling it indian style just because snake charmers sometimes sit indian style too? </quote> Because that's what it originated from the stereotype that Indians have the ability to charm snakes and as part of the 'magic' they sat like that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pkmnlord 11/15/20 12:24:00 PM #42:	Guys, guys...let's not detract from the main takeaway here: justaguy3492 posted... just call it sitting cross-legged --- https://imgur.com/MP7ZznH <cite>pkmnlord posted [p:947195463] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Guys, guys...let's not detract from the main takeaway here: justaguy3492 posted... </cite> <quote>just call it sitting cross-legged</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 12:24:34 PM #43:	but why? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947195486] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>but why? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 11/15/20 12:46:14 PM #44:	2SweetforTurtle posted... My only beef with the phrase is theres like no freaking way that in thousands of years nobody in europe thought to sit that way. How is such a natural position to sit in something that was discovered in the new world? It just seems ridiculous. Idk it just seems implausible Yeah, here we call it "tailor's sit" if I were to translate it literally. So my guess is that tailors and seamstress in past times would sit like that as well <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:947196123] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>2SweetforTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>My only beef with the phrase is theres like no freaking way that in thousands of years nobody in europe thought to sit that way. How is such a natural position to sit in something that was discovered in the new world? It just seems ridiculous. Idk it just seems implausible</quote> Yeah, here we call it "tailor's sit" if I were to translate it literally. So my guess is that tailors and seamstress in past times would sit like that as well </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrupt_Power 11/15/20 12:47:17 PM #45:	Because applying an entire culture to one way of sitting is dense. Cross-legged is a better term. Quit crying that the term you grew up with is outmoded. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>Corrupt_Power posted [p:947196157] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Because applying an entire culture to one way of sitting is dense. Cross-legged is a better term. Quit crying that the term you grew up with is outmoded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kavatar 11/15/20 12:47:41 PM #46:	What I don't get is adding the extra "applesauce". I get that it's cutesy, but "Indian style" was not cutesy to begin with. There's no need to add an extra word. --- The sea was angry that day, my friends. Like an old man trying to send back soup at a deli. <cite>Kavatar posted [p:947196169] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>What I don't get is adding the extra "applesauce". I get that it's cutesy, but "Indian style" was not cutesy to begin with. There's no need to add an extra word. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrupt_Power 11/15/20 12:48:51 PM #47:	Kavatar posted... What I don't get is adding the extra "applesauce". I get that it's cutesy, but "Indian style" was not cutesy to begin with. There's no need to add an extra word. For kids. Making it fun and rhyming betters the chance of it catching and sticking so kids actually do it when you ask / tell them to. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>Corrupt_Power posted [p:947196211] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Kavatar posted...</cite> <quote>What I don't get is adding the extra "applesauce". I get that it's cutesy, but "Indian style" was not cutesy to begin with. There's no need to add an extra word. </quote> For kids. Making it fun and rhyming betters the chance of it catching and sticking so kids actually do it when you ask / tell them to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Neckhomachus 11/15/20 12:49:57 PM #48:	Corrupt_Power posted... Because applying an entire culture to one way of sitting is dense. you articulated it perfectly. I was trying to find the words to convey exactly this <cite>Neckhomachus posted [p:947196249] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>Corrupt_Power posted... </cite> <quote>Because applying an entire culture to one way of sitting is dense.</quote>you articulated it perfectly. I was trying to find the words to convey exactly this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/15/20 12:50:39 PM #49:	so its not offensive but its dense? --- i'm Trent B and i get respect your cash and your jewelry is what i expect <cite>The Trent posted [p:947196273] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>so its not offensive but its dense? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hoe 11/15/20 12:51:26 PM #50:	do they not say this in schools anymore? what's it called now? <cite>Hoe posted [p:947196305] in when did s... [t:79112130]...</cite> <quote>do they not say this in schools anymore? what's it called now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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