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Lokarin
09/04/20 12:18:16 AM
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When I google I get maximum bias in every direction

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Mead
09/04/20 12:20:48 AM
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Hes the Jewish one iirc

his brother is Ike and Canadian somehow

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zebatov
09/04/20 12:22:41 AM
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He probably claimed asylum sometime after late 2015.

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Metalsonic66
09/04/20 12:28:41 AM
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He and Cartman have some weird sexual tension

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BlackScythe0
09/04/20 12:39:54 AM
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I'm pretty sure the sexual tension only goes one way. Kyle is just a cuck who always likes girls who like other guys.
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Lokarin
09/04/20 12:41:46 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I'm pretty sure the sexual tension only goes one way. Kyle is just a cuck who always likes girls who like other guys.

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Lokarin
09/04/20 12:49:32 PM
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No, but really.

One side is saying it's justified self-defence, another is saying he's a mass murdering terrorist... but neither side is saying what actually happened.

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SirPikachu
09/04/20 1:49:55 PM
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He went to Kenosha armed with some other dudes to deter rioters from rioting. At one point he extinguished a literal dumpster fire that the rioters were pushing around. One dude didn't like that, and got some of the other rioters to chase him down saying "Get him!" And who knows what else, so then he ran. Then one of the pack chasing him fired a shot, and Kyle turned around to shoot the person who was nearest him, the first person he killed. Then he stood there and called a friend, until some of the rioters began to chase him again down the street, where he was also getting things thrown at him. Then he fell and was attacked by one dude who he shot at and missed, then another guy hit him with a skateboard, and then Kyle shot him in the chest, then a third guy came up with a gun and Kyle shot him too, in the arm. Then Kyle got up, and no one chased him anymore, and it's not really known exactly what he did right after that since no one was gonna follow him after that.

He was only there to protect the city from rioters. He didn't shoot anyone that wasn't an immediate threat, even tho he easily could have.

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OhhhJa
09/04/20 2:18:29 PM
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SirPikachu posted...
He went to Kenosha armed with some other dudes to deter rioters from rioting. At one point he extinguished a literal dumpster fire that the rioters were pushing around. One dude didn't like that, and got some of the other rioters to chase him down saying "Get him!" And who knows what else, so then he ran. Then one of the pack chasing him fired a shot, and Kyle turned around to shoot the person who was nearest him, the first person he killed. Then he stood there and called a friend, until some of the rioters began to chase him again down the street, where he was also getting things thrown at him. Then he fell and was attacked by one dude who he shot at and missed, then another guy hit him with a skateboard, and then Kyle shot him in the chest, then a third guy came up with a gun and Kyle shot him too, in the arm. Then Kyle got up, and no one chased him anymore, and it's not really known exactly what he did right after that since no one was gonna follow him after that.

He was only there to protect the city from rioters. He didn't shoot anyone that wasn't an immediate threat, even tho he easily could have.

Has the dumpster fire thing been confirmed? As far as I know there isn't video of what happened before he was chased so its all dependent on what people near the event are saying but it is complete idiocy that people are painting him as a terrorist and the people chasing him as innocent victims that he targeted and executed
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Mead
09/04/20 2:22:26 PM
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SirPikachu posted...
He went to Kenosha armed with some other dudes

his mom actually drove him

SirPikachu posted...
He was only there to protect the city from rioters. He didn't shoot anyone that wasn't an immediate threat, even tho he easily could have.

he was a minor, armed illegally, that made a bad situation worse

these armed right wingers dont protect neighborhoods, they escalate situations and ignite a powder keg


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GreenKnight127
09/04/20 2:34:55 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Has the dumpster fire thing been confirmed? As far as I know there isn't video of what happened before he was chased so its all dependent on what people near the event are saying but it is complete idiocy that people are painting him as a terrorist and the people chasing him as innocent victims that he targeted and executed

Dumpster extinguisher is confirmed. The mob got PISSED when he put their fire out, and they got aggressive with Kyle. Lots of videos to confirm this. I'm afraid to link to one as Gamefaqs might say it's violent content and mod me. It's all on youtube. Some people even broke it into timelines across multiple videos.

It was 100% self-defense.

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Mead
09/04/20 2:42:00 PM
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Thank god he was there to save the life of that defenseless dumpster

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Lokarin
09/04/20 3:11:15 PM
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Ok, it sounds like both sides are in the wrong, he shouldn't have been there but it's also reasonable self-defense

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OhhhJa
09/04/20 3:16:42 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Ok, it sounds like both sides are in the wrong, he shouldn't have been there but it's also reasonable self-defense
The only argument you can use to say he shouldn't have been there is because he was 17 years old. Although a few more months and that argument is gone.

There's nothing inherently wrong with protecting a business from rioting/looting which is, truth be told, why most people are mad saying he shouldnt have been there
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BlackScythe0
09/04/20 3:17:18 PM
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I'm going to need you guys to stop derailing the topic.
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Lokarin
09/04/20 3:19:17 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
he only argument you can use to say he shouldn't have been there is because he was 17 years old. Although a few more months and that argument is gone.

I mean, if he lived in the town then I could see that - but I don't see the need to go somewhere else to defend something else, unless maybe it was his family business and such

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OhhhJa
09/04/20 3:21:13 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I mean, if he lived in the town then I could see that - but I don't see the need to go somewhere else to defend something else, unless maybe it was his family business and such
He lived 30 minutes away and worked in the town and was asked to help out. People are trying to portray it as though he drove from like 3 states away but kenosha is a town right on the border of WI and IL

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GreenKnight127
09/04/20 3:25:42 PM
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People claiming that "He shouldnt have been there!"....(as if that somehow justifies people assaulting him)...is kinda messed up.

He went with the intention of helping. In the act of helping (putting out the literal dumpster fire)....the mob got violent towards HIM.

He was the victim here.

I realize he killed two people and seriously injured one....but they attacked him first, fired shots at him, and were going for his rifle during a scuffle. He feared for his own life. Several videos attest to all of this.

All the people against Kyle....are victim-blamers, many of whom never even watched the videos.

But don't get me wrong. Kyle will very likely be charged and convicted for several other things:

-Manslaughter (obviously) ((But there is a slim chance of being completely overturned due to self-defense)).
-Out past curfew.
-Pretty sure he DIDN'T cross states lines with the rifle....but pretty sure the rifle was NOT registered to him (a ton of conflicting reports on this....but pretty important).
-Claiming to be an EMT, but not officially a certified EMT (I'm not even sure if there are actual laws against this, but it's something)

That's honestly about it.

Meanwhile.....many of the violent protestors clearly committing arson, theft, and assault in countless videos.....strangely aren't being charged with anything. And if they are, the media sure as hell isn't reporting it.


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Lokarin
09/04/20 3:32:51 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
He lived 30 minutes away and worked in the town and was asked to help out. People are trying to portray it as though he drove from like 3 states away but kenosha is a town right on the border of WI and IL

Ok, that seems fair enough

It's unfortunate, but it seems pretty neutral to me

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Joker_X_II
09/04/20 3:34:32 PM
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You guys forgot the part where the people killed was a convicted pedophile, a convicted wife-beater, and a convicted burglar (with an illegal firearm).....if a claim of self-defense is going to be made, they have to establish reason to use self-defense in the first place. Kyle (most likely) will say that his opponents were being life-threateningly aggressive to him, especially running in a pack during the riots, so the counter-argument would have to land on the prosecution to deliver character witnesses which speaking against their aggressiveness; the DA would have to prove they were inherently good innocent kind people who were there in "peaceful protest", and Kyle gunned them down without remorse first.

I highly doubt the prosecution can pull that off.

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OhhhJa
09/04/20 3:40:58 PM
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GreenKnight127 posted...
People claiming that "He shouldnt have been there!"....(as if that somehow justifies people assaulting him)...is kinda messed up.

He went with the intention of helping. In the act of helping (putting out the literal dumpster fire)....the mob got violent towards HIM.
Not to mention, the logic applied saying that he shouldnt be there absolutely applies to a large percentage of protesters and rioters that actually get on planes to fly several states away or across the country to intentionally engage in assholery.
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GreenKnight127
09/04/20 3:41:30 PM
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Joker_X_II posted...
You guys forgot the part where the people killed was a convicted pedophile, a convicted wife-beater, and a convicted burglar (with an illegal firearm).....if a claim of self-defense is going to be made, they have to establish reason to use self-defense in the first place. Kyle (most likely) will say that his opponents were being life-threateningly aggressive to him, especially running in a pack during the riots, so the counter-argument would have to land on the prosecution to deliver character witnesses which speaking against their aggressiveness; the DA would have to prove they were inherently good innocent kind people who were there in "peaceful protest", and Kyle gunned them down without remorse first.

I highly doubt the prosecution can pull that off.

100% agree.

But then people have tried discrediting Kyle with that YouTube video that recently leaked of him and some other teens getting into a slap fight in a parking lot back in July.

Completely unrelated incident, but people will try to use that as "evidence" that Kyle is "violent" and hits women, etc.

A pretty cut-and-dry case of self-defense (in my opinion)....becoming a political battle between Left and Right.

Shocking.


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Jen0125
09/04/20 3:57:59 PM
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I absolutely love how you guys are on a first name basis with this kid. It's so hilarious to me.

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Joker_X_II
09/04/20 3:59:34 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I absolutely love how you guys are on a first name basis with this kid. It's so hilarious to me.

Rittenhouse is too many keystrokes, rather save them for other words to get the point across.

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Jen0125
09/04/20 4:00:08 PM
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Joker_X_II posted...
Rittenhouse is too many keystrokes, rather save them for other words to get the point across.

Sure sure

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hungrymike
09/04/20 4:06:48 PM
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Mead posted...



he was a minor, armed illegally, that made a bad situation worse


I've heard people argue that Wisconsin statute 948.60 subsection 3 part c makes exceptions for 16 year olds and up with riffles and shotguns with barrels of specified length. . Its possible the judge lets him off.

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Monopoman
09/04/20 4:12:55 PM
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Joker_X_II posted...
You guys forgot the part where the people killed was a convicted pedophile, a convicted wife-beater, and a convicted burglar (with an illegal firearm).....if a claim of self-defense is going to be made, they have to establish reason to use self-defense in the first place. Kyle (most likely) will say that his opponents were being life-threateningly aggressive to him, especially running in a pack during the riots, so the counter-argument would have to land on the prosecution to deliver character witnesses which speaking against their aggressiveness; the DA would have to prove they were inherently good innocent kind people who were there in "peaceful protest", and Kyle gunned them down without remorse first.

I highly doubt the prosecution can pull that off.

Nah, he will claim that god was giving him the information that all three of those guys had criminal records and thus why he shot.
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GreenKnight127
09/04/20 4:15:30 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I absolutely love how you guys are on a first name basis with this kid. It's so hilarious to me.

I mean....his name is Kyle.

Last name too long. What should we refer to him as? lmao

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OhhhJa
09/04/20 4:26:46 PM
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Monopoman posted...
Nah, he will claim that god was giving him the information that all three of those guys had criminal records and thus why he shot.

Why would he have to do that when people were chasing him, one of which shot at him, and another hit him repeatedly with a skateboard?
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Lokarin
09/04/20 4:32:10 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I absolutely love how you guys are on a first name basis with this kid. It's so hilarious to me.

Ya, the full name is too long

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SunWuKung420
09/04/20 4:32:54 PM
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Neither group of people should have been doing what they were doing.

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Mead
09/04/20 4:42:39 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Ok, it sounds like both sides are in the wrong, he shouldn't have been there but it's also reasonable self-defense

one side supports the protesters that are there during the day getting next to zero media coverage

the other side is obsessed with the rioters showing up at night with all sorts of political motivations from both the left and right, and the media is fueling their outrage

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The_tall_midget
09/04/20 4:43:26 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I absolutely love how you guys are on a first name basis with this kid. It's so hilarious to me.

Hahaha! So true! It's almost as fucked up as volunteering to the campaign of a guy which organizers openly said that people should be thrown in gulags for having different political views!

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Joker_X_II
09/04/20 5:11:45 PM
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hungrymike posted...


I've heard people argue that Wisconsin statute 948.60 subsection 3 part c makes exceptions for 16 year olds and up with riffles and shotguns with barrels of specified length. . Its possible the judge lets him off.

Shhh.....they don't know, ....let them embarass themselves....

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The_tall_midget
09/04/20 5:19:58 PM
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Joker_X_II posted...
Shhh.....they don't know, ....let them embarass themselves....

It's okay, they'll still make ignorant assumptions.

In other news, one of the moron who killed the Trump supporter was killed in return for being a sac of shit.

Karma was returned to the universe.

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BlackScythe0
09/04/20 6:19:10 PM
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Well this just became another thread for the alt-right to make up nonsense to justify murder.
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OhhhJa
09/04/20 6:24:20 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Well this just became another thread for people who don't share my fragile worldview to discuss facts about what looks like self defense


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ClarkDuke
09/04/20 6:25:49 PM
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Mead posted...
Thank god he was there to save the life of that defenseless dumpster
dumpsters are people too, ok?

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Joker_X_II
09/04/20 6:36:57 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Well this just became another thread for the alt-right to make up nonsense to justify murder.

1) Not nonsense

2) Not Murder

3) Nice try

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OhhhJa
09/04/20 6:40:07 PM
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These people really don't understand what alt right is. It's really just become their go to phrase for anyone that disagrees with their ridiculous worldview
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GreenKnight127
09/04/20 7:03:32 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
These people really don't understand what alt right is. It's really just become their go to phrase for anyone that disagrees with their ridiculous worldview


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BlackScythe0
09/04/20 7:05:18 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
These people really don't understand what alt right is. It's really just become their go to phrase for anyone that disagrees with their ridiculous worldview

Says the people who think everyone is antifa.
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OhhhJa
09/04/20 7:12:04 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Says the people who think everyone is antifa.
I've never called anyone here antifa lol. Do I suggest that 400 lb sweaty neckbeard rioters wearing all black with a bunch of patches may be antifa? Absolutely
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Lil69Leo
09/04/20 7:13:51 PM
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Kyle just wanted to help like that time he beat up a girl and cheap shotted her for no reason.
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Lil69Leo
09/04/20 7:14:14 PM
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Joker_X_II posted...
1) Not nonsense

2) Not Murder

3) Nice try

Lol was totally murder.
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OhhhJa
09/04/20 7:15:31 PM
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Lil69Leo posted...
Lol was totally murder.
I'd put money on that he walks. Im sure you'll say it's because he's white though right?
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Lil69Leo
09/04/20 7:18:37 PM
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Joker_X_II posted...
Shhh.....they don't know, ....let them embarass themselves....

Go read the statue you massive clown. It does not help him in the slightest.
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kukukupo
09/04/20 7:28:20 PM
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Kyle? Anyone seen kyle? About this high. . . ?
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Joker_X_II
09/04/20 8:18:00 PM
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Lil69Leo posted...
Go read the statue you massive clown. It does not help him in the slightest.

Other legal professionals are going to say otherwise....but keep dreaming.

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Joker_X_II
09/04/20 8:18:27 PM
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Lil69Leo posted...
Lol was totally murder.

not murder

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