Current Events > Police abuse black jogger .

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YugiNoob posted...

I don't know if you're purposely ignoring what I said. Don't go out of your way to rile people up. It's not hard to simply say something like "Sure officer, I have my ID in my wallet".

Lost_All_Senses posted...

White people always assume it's the first time the cops went up to someone black and asked for ID and a name when they did nothing wrong. Because they've never been harassed by a cop and can't comprehend that others don't get the same treat.

"Just give them your ID and Name every week like a good little bitch. Just don't let it get to you that the place you grew up doesn't treat you like the neighbor you are and instead treats you like a suspicious character your whole life."

Now watch the same guy who said that throw a huge fit anytime he's not givin the best service wherever he goes because he grew accustom to it.

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YugiNoob posted...

I don't know if you're purposely ignoring what I said. Don't go out of your way to rile people up. It's not hard to simply say something like "Sure officer, I have my ID in my wallet". Or wait, let me guess, that makes you a bootlicker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

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I think the problem is that I grew accustom to Hawaii. Here we don't have shit like that. People are nice. Cops are respectful, people respect cops. Our BLM protests were organized, and people didn't wreck shit or block roads. I've only been in a handful of encounters with the police before my current job, and they have all been pleasant. Granted there was that one time when it was a pretty big pain because I had to wait around for like 2 hours, but that's because I saw a crazy hobo attack and stab a cop with a screwdriver so I needed to talk to the detective and fill out a report.

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YugiNoob posted...

I don't know if you're purposely ignoring what I said. Don't go out of your way to rile people up. It's not hard to simply say something like "Sure officer, I have my ID in my wallet". Or wait, let me guess, that makes you a bootlicker?

I covered that in my first post. No need to go over it again. You see it as a one time thing. Unless you think people should go through security checks weekly/monthly just for being a certain color in a neighborhood they look too "suspicious" for. There was a dude who got stopped and harassed by cops literally every day for years.

There's a reason I don't have to state his ethnicity. World context fills in that blank immediately when you read that.

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cjsdowg posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

I have no response to that; they were terrible cops and that was a terrible reaction.

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YugiNoob posted...

I think the problem is that I grew accustom to Hawaii. Here we don't have shit like that. People are nice. Cops are respectful, people respect cops. Our BLM protests were organized, and people didn't wreck shit or block roads. I've only been in a handful of encounters with the police before my current job, and they have all been pleasant.

Then would you kindly shut the fuck up and give your fellow man the benefit of the doubt of their experiences? Please?

Not everywhere is Hawaii.

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cuttin_in_farm posted...

Then would you kindly shut the fuck up and give your fellow man the benefit of the doubt of their experiences? Please?

Not everywhere is Hawaii.

ACAB isn't a thing anymore?

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Hawaii doesn't count. It's not even a state lol. jk

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Conservatives: "Just give them your ID and be on your way, it's not hard."

Also conservatives: "WHY SHOULD I WEAR A MASK TO ENTER YOUR STORE REEEE"
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St0rmFury posted...

Conservatives: "Just give them your ID and be on your way, it's not hard."

Also conservatives: "WHY SHOULD I WEAR A MASK TO ENTER YOUR STORE REEEE"

Conservatives just make up problems because they see people actually struggling and being discriminated and they feel left out.
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YugiNoob posted...

The cops are my friends though :((

I visit court houses often so I see a lot of cops, especially at District Court. They're very nice :3

Also they've come over to kick out some crazy druggies who came into the building for whatever reason multiple times. Although I don't know if they're technically cops. We just call our Investigations department and they send people over who I assume have some legal authority.

Then you give them your ID.

Don't blame others for not doing it when

1. They legally aren't obliged to
2. It could get them killed

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YugiNoob posted...

Dang, I didn't know that my mind suddenly flipped and now I think that the government is trying to control us with masks. How'd you change my mind like that?

I cant even.

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scar the 1 posted...

Then you give them your ID.

Don't blame others for not doing it when
1. They legally aren't obliged to
2. It could get them killed

I'm not disagreeing. I gave the cops my ID when they asked when I was a witness to the stabbing, and I'm not saying that people have to give their ID when it's not a requirement. All I'm saying is that chances are, it'll make things go a lot more smoothly.

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tc what would you expect the cops to do in a situation like this? and i'm not talking about the aftermath where he's being charged for a felony. guy matched the description of an armed suspect in the area and he wouldn't give them his id or tell them his name. they just let him go? what if hes actually the guy they're looking for?

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Zeeak4444 posted...

I cant even.

Can't comprehend the fact that you incorrectly assumed that people who suggest just showing ID are also against masks? Yeah, I sort of figured that.

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YugiNoob posted...

I'm not disagreeing. I gave the cops my ID when they asked when I was a witness to the stabbing, and I'm not saying that people have to give their ID when it's not a requirement. All I'm saying is that chances are, it'll make things go a lot more smoothly.

Tell that to Philando Castile

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scar the 1 posted...

Tell that to Philando Castile

Tell that to the words "chances are".

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If you were required to give the cops your ID so you don't get beat up, they should make it a legal requirement that you have to identify yourself whenever accosted by the police.

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If he had nothing to hide he wouldn't be running!

Maybe next time this idiot will tell the cops his name. His actions were asking for trouble.

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Forever_Black posted...

Maybe next time this idiot will tell the cops his name. His actions were asking for trouble.

An America is asking for trouble by excusing this constitutional rights ?

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cjsdowg posted...

The hell it is, DON'T TALK TO COPS!!!.

Don't talk to cops.
No hables con la polica.
Ne parlez pas aux flics.
Keikan to hanashi o shinaide kudasai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XddPljj0R6E

There is a difference in not being interviewed by a detective without a lawyer and not complying when you're stopped on the side of the road because you match the description of a suspect.

Of course you can be an ass and not give them your name. They can legally detain you also. They are gonna assume you have warrants or you are up to no good. Also if you kick a cop in the face, you're probably going to get in trouble.

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cjsdowg posted...

An America is asking for trouble by excusing this constitutional rights ?

what rights did he have at that moment? He was detained for being a suspect of a crime right?

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Forever_Black posted...

what rights did he have at that moment? He was detained for being a suspect of a crime right?

HE had all of his rights. Do you think they go away when the police are after you.

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yemmy posted...

There is a difference in not being interviewed by a detective without a lawyer and not complying when you're stopped on the side of the road because you match the description of a suspect.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A COP YOUR ID IN TEXAS. And he didn't fit the description he was just black.

Of course you can be an ass and not give them your name. They can legally detain you also. They are gonna assume you have warrants or you are up to no good. Also if you kick a cop in the face, you're probably going to get in trouble.

There is video of the arrest that did not happen .

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cjsdowg posted...

HE had all of his rights. Do you think they go away when the police are after you.

no he didnt as he wasnt free to go.

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cjsdowg posted...

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A COP YOUR ID IN TEXAS. And he didn't fit the description he was just black.

"Police say Ometu, who was wearing bright-colored workout clothes and headphones, matched the description of an armed suspect in a felony family violence call nearby and officers wanted to talk to him."

That was in the article you linked.

You act like this dude was literally arrested for being black. They just wanted to talk to him. He coulda just told them the truth and both parties woulda went on their merry way.

Now he's out on bond for a felony because he acted a fool. Cry me a river.

I'm white and I've been detained twice and let go. I didn't kick the cops. I went home both times.

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SomeLikeItHoth posted...

Why didnt he just tell them his name? Why did he assault a cop?

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Imagine still believing police accounts at face value

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NinjaWarrior455 posted...

Imagine still believing police accounts at face value

Imagine spending two days in jail because you don't want to help police investigate an assault and would rather fight them.

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NinjaWarrior455 posted...

Imagine still believing police accounts at face value

Imagine imagining AOC twitter posts

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLfJkezrzgw

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yemmy posted...

"Police say Ometu, who was wearing bright-colored workout clothes and headphones, matched the description of an armed suspect in a felony family violence call nearby and officers wanted to talk to him."

That was in the article you linked.

You act like this dude was literally arrested for being black. They just wanted to talk to him. He coulda just told them the truth and both parties woulda went on their merry way.

Now he's out on bond for a felony because he acted a fool. Cry me a river.

I'm white and I've been detained twice and let go. I didn't kick the cops. I went home both times.

Because every black person fits the description, to them. You say you are white, so then you don't know . Listen to someone explaining it to you. There is video the address and you see no kicking, and yet even with this you trust the cop. You are a fool.

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I guess the cops are really asking to get their ass whooped, they're really pushing for it.

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BarneyBosco posted...

Imagine spending two days in jail because you don't want to help police investigate an assault and would rather fight them.

This guy tried to help the police.

https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=3387

But I guess this guy had it coming too?

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Pigs gone oink oink.

Must be a day that ends in y.

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How is it that the same type of people who think we're headed towards Marxism/Communism as a threat in our society are the exact same people that think you should comply with authority under all circumstance?

Conservatives are always the same person with absolutely no personality or character traits other than hating things beyond their miniscule intellect. You're all such big fucking losers that you allow yourselves to be infected with hatred and ignorance; always wanting to blame the reasons for your lack of success on illegal immigrants, or poor people who use the system to live, or people that just have wildly different cultures and don't conform to your view of society.

I am trying to comprehend how you can be so blatantly hypocritical in every single action you take and not realize what you're doing, but I've yet to have success.

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Perascamin posted...

How is it that the same type of people who think we're headed towards Marxism/Communism as a threat in our society are the exact same people that think you should comply with authority under all circumstance?

The thing they're worried about isn't authoritarianism, but who authority serves.
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Perascamin posted...

How is it that the same type of people who think we're headed towards Marxism/Communism as a threat in our society are the exact same people that think you should comply with authority under all circumstance?

Only if you're black

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So, a couple or three things.

The number one thing an innocent person should think when stopped by the police is...what do I need to do to get home safe?

Second: If the police stop and detain you they are able to order you to produce ID. It's just the law. See rule one. Afterwards you can get badge numbers and file a complaint but at that moment you are required to comply.

Third: don't talk to cops. Everything you say is admissible. If they ask you question you do NOT have to answer. You have to provide ID if the police have probable cause to suspect you have violated a law. But that is it. You don't have to tell them where you work or what you are doing.

Fourth: if you don't answer questions it may make things more difficult and draw things out. But that's ok, you are within your rights not to answer questions. If you think the police are harassing you say so, but continue to obey commands. If they tell you to get out of the car, get out. If they want to search you, let them (see Terry frisk). Remember that these guys can arrest or hurt you (see rule 1).

Fifth: cops are human and can react poorly. It's not fair but that is how it is. Your main goal is to get home. Do what you need to do to get home. If you are in a state that allows you to record the police do that. You can weigh filing a complaint at home, safe.

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yemmy posted...

He coulda just told them the truth and both parties woulda went on their merry way.

You definitely shouldnt do this, though. This is one of the things the video said not to do. And you should NEVER talk to the police without a lawyer. EVER... They will try to fuck to over every time...
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Lordofmud living in opposite world.

What part of you don't have to furnish ID in Texas did he not understand?

Correct. But then they can detain you while they investigate.
But you are right. Texas doesn't require you to produce.

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monkeysRfunny posted...

They most certainly would be. But you ever hear the saying "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should"? There are ways to avoid conflict, and one of them is by not making things unnecessarily difficult for people.

And this is literally the problem with the police. Abuse of power.

People keep making excuses for cops abusing their power with, "you should just listen to the thugs in blue" and not looking to actually fix the problem.

Cops are becoming untrusted because the bad cops run the show. They're act like thugs. Especially the "suspect fit the description" cops who harass innocent people to then find a reason to arrest them on something else. See Breanna Taylor death and their hilarious charge on the boyfriend.
Or trigger happy cops who purposely can't desolate a situation without gunning people down. Even complying to their simon says games can get you shot.
And let's not forget when the thugs in blue fabricate evidence, lie about what happened, or straight dont do their job because "policy" doesn't really require to have a regard for life. Unions will protect them! Not to mention good cops go punished for when they try to do the right thing.


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nfearurspecimn posted...

Hawaii doesn't count. It's not even a state lol. jk

I di never hear anything about Hawaii tho. Either no one here cares or just nothing crazy is going on. It only comes up when there's crazy weather.

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LinkPizza posted...

You definitely shouldnt do this, though. This is one of the things the video said not to do. And you should NEVER talk to the police without a lawyer. EVER... They will try to fuck to over every time...

There is a difference in lawyering up at the station and acting catatonic when police roll up on you jogging.

cjsdowg posted...

You say you are white, so then you don't know . Listen to someone explaining it to you. There is video the address and you see no kicking, and yet even with this you trust the cop. You are a fool.

I see dude struggling to not get in the seat so much he could have kicked them.

I'm so sick of the "you're not black" thing when you point out it is stupid as fuck to try to fight cops. If I woulda refused to speak to the cops around here and then bucked as much as he did they'd probably whoop my ass back at the station (it has happened to me before when I ran). There are more black cops in my city than white ones.

I'm sorry there are plenty of instances of police brutality I can get behind but this is not one of them.

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yemmy posted...

There is a difference in lawyering up at the station and acting catatonic when police roll up on you jogging.

Nope. Shouldnt talk to them either way... You can if you want to. But Id rather not go to jail. And if they talk to you, thats usually what theyre trying to do. They did it to some friends at work...
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yemmy posted...

I see dude struggling to not get in the seat so much he could have kicked them.

I'm so sick of the "you're not black" thing when you point out it is stupid as fuck to try to fight cops. If I woulda refused to speak to the cops around here and then bucked as much as he did they'd probably whoop my ass back at the station (it has happened to me before when I ran). There are more black cops in my city than white ones.

I'm sorry there are plenty of instances of police brutality I can get behind but this is not one of them.

It is one video that he didn't kick them. He does not have to show him ID.

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This guy apparently complied.

https://twitter.com/coachMGM/status/1299033838459539457

I guess he didnt comply hard enough...
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I shouldnt have to stop and identify myself to cop on the basis of my skin color.

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