Poll of the Day > I was just looking at the syllabus for one of my courses this semester and

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saw we needed to do a weekly group project and immediately swapped it to a different class

It was a super tedious group project too. Like 20 minute lecture using power point and everyone in the group needs to talk, then you have to do a discussion post.

Imagine trying to coordinate that weekly with people taking the course in all different timezones. It's an online course. No ty.

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Not really.

Yes really

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I think its pronounced syllables.

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Fuck that. I wouldve done the same thing.

Cacciato posted...

Fuck that. I wouldve done the same thing.

I know it's a grad course but that's doing too much. I hate this mentality of "well you work with people in the real job." yeah, no shit but then I'm getting paid and we're all in the same location. I hate paying money to go to college to either have someone else fuck up my grade or have to pick up slack to make sure I get a good grade. I have rarely worked in a group where everyone is actively participating.

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lmao i just swapped out of the class I swapped into because it's a converted face to face class and they want to do a zoom meeting every wednesday for 2.5 hours

no ty i'm doing an ONLINE program for convenience

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Ive never felt like group projects actually help with working with people in the real world. Not just because they are whack with not everybody putting in equal work, some people just naturally can't work well with others and a shitty group project isn't going to change that.

aren't most graduate courses like that? it seems like practically all 4th year undergrad courses require some kind of project or presentation, and then "5th" year courses are the same, but even more.

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Sahuagin posted...

all 4th year undergrad courses require some kind of project or presentation

For me, only one or two fourth-year undergraduate courses were like that; one of them was my senior seminar class. Every other course I took in this level followed the usual homework and test format.
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30% of your grade for every class was a group project with my university, it seriously sucked. Half of em just wanted a C in the class, so you had to redo most of the work, edit everything, make sure the references worked etc. I swear I spent 3x as much time on the group projects as the ones I did myself.

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EclairReturns posted...

For me, only one or two fourth-year undergraduate courses were like that; one of them was my senior seminar class. Every other course I took in this level followed the usual homework and test format.

there was one "level 4" class that didn't have something like that. I survived by taking that one class, and then also applying to take a 2-semester long systems administration class, so I ended up only having to survive one of them instead of two of them (and I already basically work as a sysadmin so it was otherwise an "easy" course).

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Sahuagin posted...

aren't most graduate courses like that? it seems like practically all 4th year undergrad courses require some kind of project or presentation, and then "5th" year courses are the same, but even more.

This isn't one project. It's weekly group projects. No thanks.

And I'm taking 500 and 600 level classes.. 400 is undergrad.

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Are these courses in library science?

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Jen0125 posted...

This isn't one project. It's weekly group projects. No thanks.

And I'm taking 500 and 600 level classes.. 400 is undergrad.

yeah, for some reason my university has 200 as 1st year, 300 as second year, etc. I just meant, 4th year courses already tend to have that stuff, and courses above that (grad courses) have huge amounts of it by default it seems. but yes, literally one per week is worse still.

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jramirez23 posted...

Are these courses in library science?

Yeah, library and information science.

Sahuagin posted...

yeah, for some reason my university has 200 as 1st year, 300 as second year, etc. I just meant, 4th year courses already tend to have that stuff, and courses above that (grad courses) have huge amounts of it by default it seems. but yes, literally one per week is worse still.

Yeah, I can deal with one a semester but weekly is just tooooo much work for an online program to become a librarian not gonna lie.

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Jen0125 posted...

lmao i just swapped out of the class I swapped into because it's a converted face to face class and they want to do a zoom meeting every wednesday for 2.5 hours

no ty i'm doing an ONLINE program for convenience

That sounds worse than the original one.
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Revelation34 posted...

That sounds worse than the original one.

I found a class that has the format I want at least

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Jen0125 posted...

It was a super tedious group project too. Like 20 minute lecture using power point and everyone in the group needs to talk, then you have to do a discussion post.

Imagine trying to coordinate that weekly with people taking the course in all different timezones. It's an online course. No ty.

In most of my college classes with group projects, you'd basically do that maybe ONCE an entire semester. I can't even imagine doing one a week unless it was a really high-level class and you were getting deep into the woods on some complex concepts that required cooperation.

The closest I think I ever got to that was a biology class that had a lab once a week, where you'd partner off and work on stuff together (usually dissections), but that was research, not presentation.



zebatov posted...

I think its pronounced syllables.

Silly bulls?



argonautweakend posted...

Ive never felt like group projects actually help with working with people in the real world. Not just because they are whack with not everybody putting in equal work, some people just naturally can't work well with others and a shitty group project isn't going to change that.

Most of the group projects I was part of always turned into multiple semi-related solo projects because none of the people involved actually communicated with each other, and then one person would usually wind up doing 90% of the work while everyone else got equal credit.

(I was almost always the one doing the majority of the work in any group I was part of. Mostly because I always had the mindset of "If I do this I know it will be done right, but I have no faith that any of the rest of you won't fuck this up and I'll wind up with a lower grade because you suck, so I'll just have to work harder and you can coast so I can get what I consider to be an acceptable grade.")

It would probably be different if you were friends with the people in your group, but most of my classes were larger and everyone was mostly a stranger, so there was never that degree of familiarity/ease of interaction (even in the one class where we had group projects and my roommate was there, we got put into separate groups so we couldn't work together, which is kind of stupid).
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