Board 8 > Coronavirus Topic 10

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iiaattgg posted...

I think its okay to say there is no good solution to the school situation and the kids are kinda fucked. Charge it to the game

Homeschool.

I mean that was already the only good solution but now even more obviously so.

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SmartMuffin posted...

Homeschool.

I mean that was already the only good solution but now even more obviously so.

why is homeschool necessarily better than privatized schools?

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iiaattgg posted...

I think its okay to say there is no good solution to the school situation and the kids are kinda fucked. Charge it to the game

Yeah, the only non-terrible solution for schools was "get this shit under control before September" and we've kind of missed our window for that.

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https://www.wwltv.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/new-orleans-coronavirus-bars-closing/289-cde53b21-50dc-4e29-aac1-e4f556843d7e

Also people who have defects in the TRL7 gene seem susceptible to dying from the covid-19 at any age.


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iiaattgg posted...

I think its okay to say there is no good solution to the school situation and the kids are kinda fucked. Charge it to the game

Honestly outdoor schooling / tents should be something that should be considered more seriously. For inner city schools with little to no outdoor areas, alternative sites should be scouted and afforded to these schools.

colliding posted...

Honestly outdoor schooling / tents should be something that should be considered more seriously. For inner city schools with little to no outdoor areas, alternative sites should be scouted and afforded to these schools.

Welcome to rain and snow and cold and heat.

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Corrik7 posted...

Welcome to rain and snow and cold and heat.

you'd be amazed at the advances in tent technology these days

colliding posted...

you'd be amazed at the advances in tent technology these days

If you are heating or cooling a tent then it is no better than an indoor space.

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Corrik7 posted...

If you are heating or cooling a tent then it is no better than an indoor space.

Reminds me of how NY is preparing to mobilize massive government-provided daycares for people to send their kids to. You know, because sending them to school is unsafe.

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I've harped on inter-sport comparisons before (why is soccer supposedly safe, but football definitely not?), so here's a new one

Why is it safe for baseball to travel around the country and play in everyone's home stadium, but not safe for hockey or basketball to do that?

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its not safe for baseball to do it, it is a bad plan which will fail

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Yeah, there's a reason why the Toronto Blue Jays are playing in Buffalo and not in Canada.

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SmartMuffin posted...

I've harped on inter-sport comparisons before (why is soccer supposedly safe, but football definitely not?)

as people have pointed out when you were harping on this comparison before, neither is safe and soccer being allowed is definitely dumb, yeah. no argument there.

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iiaattgg posted...

I think its okay to say there is no good solution to the school situation and the kids are kinda fucked. Charge it to the game

Yep. So then it becomes a question of do we wanna screw the teachers or the economy, and well, it's been nice knowin' y'all.

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Tom Bombadil posted...

Yep. So then it becomes a question of do we wanna screw the teachers or the economy, and well, it's been nice knowin' y'all.

Um, no. It becomes a question of do we want to screw the children and cause compounding issues with their learning over their lives. Like, what? How the hell did you ignore who it really affects for teachers and economy bs.

They aren't screwed either way. You can choose to screw them or not.

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SmartMuffin posted...

I've harped on inter-sport comparisons before (why is soccer supposedly safe, but football definitely not?), so here's a new one

Why is it safe for baseball to travel around the country and play in everyone's home stadium, but not safe for hockey or basketball to do that?

Its not, and its why baseball and football won't finish these seasons (at least without a break)

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Aecioo posted...

Its not, and its why baseball and football won't finish these seasons (at least without a break)

I am more convinced people want them to fail rather than they will. NCAAF is the hardest due to student campuses. NFL and MLB should be rather fine if they have private jets and use common sense.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Yeah, the only non-terrible solution for schools was "get this shit under control before September" and we've kind of missed our window for that.

All our local schools are insistent on starting on their original dates of mid August instead of pushing back to mid September or later. I dont understand it.

Corrik7 posted...

I am more convinced people want them to fail rather than they will. NCAAF is the hardest due to student campuses. NFL and MLB should be rather fine if they have private jets and use common sense.

The NFL is more than triple the amount of people traveling than MLB.

I really don't know how they will manage it other than fake testing.

Leafeon13N posted...

All our local schools are insistent on starting on their original dates of mid August instead of pushing back to mid September or later. I dont understand it.

You can only push back so far because you have dates you have to finish all days of instruction by. At least in PA that is how it is.

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Its not, and its why baseball and football won't finish these seasons (at least without a break)

I will bet you up to $200 on this.

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Corrik7 posted...

You can only push back so far because you have dates you have to finish all days of instruction by. At least in PA that is how it is.

They haven't pushed back at all.

Leafeon13N posted...

They haven't pushed back at all.

You might not want to push back at all. You limit your days to play with later on if you need to


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the feds scooped up the PPE and distributed to places like Montana and Alaska while MA and NY got 1/30th of the fear per case of those states.

the cynic in me figures Trump gambled that this would actually go away in the late spring and the blue states would be the ones that looked bad. I dont know why else the feds would outbid hard hit states.

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the cynic in me figures Trump gambled that this would actually go away in the late spring and the blue states would be the ones that looked bad.

It did go away in the blue states, precisely because they look so bad (because it spread everywhere and basically reached herd immunity).

Had the rest of the country waited a few weeks and not locked down until community spread was already rampant, it'd look just like New York. Which in terms of deaths would be catastrophic, but the media insists would be really good and awesome.

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Corrik7 posted...

You might not want to push back at all. You limit your days to play with later on if you need to

This is southern California. It's not like we have snow days.

Leafeon13N posted...

This is southern California. It's not like we have snow days.

True. I also don't know when your end of year dates are either. But, what if the administration has a mass outbreak and has to take 14-20 days or so of quarantining at home? What if they decide midyear vaccines are up and running so they can transition back so need like a month or so to get everything ready in the building to transition. What if your teachers strike? Etc etc.

I mean, I am not saying they shouldn't push back. I am saying though that there could be scenarios where having the leeway might be beneficial also.

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Also I would like to point out that the hardship with mlb and NFL isn't the gameplans but their roster sizes. It's why bubbles would have been hard for them to work with due to immensity of players it would encompass. Like 6 teams is the entire NBA almost.

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Corrik7 posted...

They aren't screwed either way.

This isn't going to go well for them. Even if the health risk doesn't materialize, they're still getting messed up socialization from having to distance and wear masks.

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Tom Bombadil posted...

This isn't going to go well for them. Even if the health risk doesn't materialize, they're still getting messed up socialization from having to distance and wear masks.

No more than the regular person.

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Corrik7 posted...

. I also don't know when your end of year dates are either. But, what if the administration has a mass outbreak and has to take 14-20 days or so of quarantining at home?

They could use that time to come up with a transition plan to virtual classrooms if it happens. Instead they are just going immediately to online learning which will likely be a month, month and a half minimum.

Corrik7 posted...

No more than the regular person.

By regular people do you mean adults that are generally past developmental stages?

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Tom Bombadil posted...

By regular people do you mean adults that are generally past developmental stages?

Yeah. Anyone. There are adults that have learned to be social and their mental health could depend on it that this could be very well affecting very badly.

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It's almost like there's not a good solution here, or something!

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Corrik7 posted...

use common sense.

Have you kept up with what's happening in this country

Even some players in the NBA bubble are not using masks because they don't believe. Multiple the amount of people involved by 15 and add cross country travel weekly and you get a sport that will end by week 4

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Aecioo posted...

Have you kept up with what's happening in this country

Even some players in the NBA bubble are not using masks because they don't believe. Multiple the amount of people involved by 15 and add cross country travel weekly and you get a sport that will end by week 4

They are in a literal bubble. I could see why they would think a mask in a bubble without the virus wouldn't need a mask. Would you wear a mask if you knew every single person you would encounter didn't have the virus?

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Corrik7 posted...

They are in a literal bubble. I could see why they would think a mask in a bubble without the virus wouldn't need a mask. Would you wear a mask if you knew every single person you would encounter didn't have the virus?

Supplies and other deliveries still go into and out of the bubbles.

The bubble is great but it is not a 100 percent seal.

North Korea had their first case of covid-19 today.

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Interesting, they're usually quite silent when it comes to this stuff...

Who confirmed it?

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charmander6000 posted...

Interesting, they're usually quite silent when it comes to this stuff...

Who confirmed it?

They said someone illegally crossed their southern border with it. Then shut down a city to make sure it didn't spread.

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Corrik7 posted...

They are in a literal bubble. I could see why they would think a mask in a bubble without the virus wouldn't need a mask. Would you wear a mask if you knew every single person you would encounter didn't have the virus?

Lou Williams left the bubble for a funeral and then went out to a strip club before coming back. Its not 100% safe.

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Aecioo posted...

Lou Williams left the bubble for a funeral and then went out to a strip club before coming back. Its not 100% safe.

He will have to quarantine for possibly up to 2 weeks before fully rejoining based in how many contacts he was in the presence of.

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Corrik7 posted...

He will have to quarantine for possibly up to 2 weeks before fully rejoining based in how many contacts he was in the presence of.

If a picture of him at the club didn't come out it would have only been a few days. Thats my point

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Aecioo posted...

If a picture of him at the club didn't come out it would have only been a few days. Thats my point

Your point isn't very strong. He would have been investigated and had to quarantine as long as necessary regardless. You just want things to fail for some reason so you can say I told you so. It's actually a very weird thing to want.

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Corrik7 posted...

Your point isn't very strong. He would have been investigated and had to quarantine as long as necessary regardless. You just want things to fail for some reason so you can say I told you so. It's actually a very weird thing to want.

For some reason a lot of people i know have this attitude. They want things to be as bad as possible. Latch onto the bad news and dismiss any good news. Its the same type of people who pop boners when natural disasters or stuff happen on tv

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/world/asia/japan-coronavirus.html

New outbreak rising in Japan. Must be because those science-hating rednecks refuse to wear masks.

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For some reason a lot of people i know have this attitude. They want things to be as bad as possible. Latch onto the bad news and dismiss any good news. Its the same type of people who pop boners when natural disasters or stuff happen on tv

Stop pretending you don't know the reason. It's pretty simple... the worse this is, the better Democrats will do in elections, and the more justified increased government control over individuals will seem to be.

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Corrik7 posted...

Your point isn't very strong. He would have been investigated and had to quarantine as long as necessary regardless. You just want things to fail for some reason so you can say I told you so. It's actually a very weird thing to want.

I don't think the NBA bubble will fail but they have not been consistent in the length of time players have to quarantine for breaching the bubble.

Richaun Holmes crossed the bubble line by like 10ft to grab delivery food - 10 Day Quarantine

Lou Williams leaves bubble for a funeral (and goes to a titty bar) - 10 Day Quarantine

Zion Williamson leaves bubble for a family matter - 4 Day Quarantine

Realistically Zion should have had to quarantine for longer in my opinion.

SmartMuffin posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/world/asia/japan-coronavirus.html

New outbreak rising in Japan. Must be because those science-hating rednecks refuse to wear masks.

weren't you arguing before that japan was doing great despite minimal lockdown measures?

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SmartMuffin posted...

Stop pretending you don't know the reason. It's pretty simple... the worse this is, the better Democrats will do in elections, and the more justified increased government control over individuals will seem to be.

I think thats part of it but the general concept is from long before any of this. Its why people get glued to the tv during katrina or fukishima. They want to see how bad it will get and almost celebrate it

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