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Frolex
07/14/20 12:25:54 AM
#52:


Darmik posted...
lol going by that page The Last of Us 2 subreddit has been completely taken over by people just whining about the game.

rofl, it hasn't been taken over, it was started by people like TC once they got kicked of the main The Last of Us sub for being shitheels. Pretty obvious why from what their sub rules used to be:


ssjevot posted...
Also this is a straight up lie. The sales are in the earlier Gematsu link. The opening sales of TLoU2 are more than the lifetime sales of Clubhouse Games.

Like I said, desperate

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Darmik
07/14/20 12:28:17 AM
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Frolex posted...
rofl, it hasn't been taken over, it was started by people like TC once they got kicked of the main The Last of Us sub for being shitheels. Pretty obvious why from what their sub rules used to be:


Ooooooh duh. Totally missed the 2.

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BakonBitz
07/14/20 12:29:29 AM
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@Kaliesto posted...


wtf lol

Yeah. It's from a level where the boss you're fighting is a turbonerd virgin chameleon. The writing is amazing in that game.
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ssjevot
07/14/20 12:30:04 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
"Calling racist japanese society out as racist is racist"

There is a huge difference between saying there is racism in Japanese society, and saying all Japanese are racist (which is itself a racist statement). Most Japanese had no problem with this game. The TC collected troll reviews to encourage a racist stereotype that you are perpetuating. I live as a minority in Japan and my in-laws are Chinese and are in the process of moving to Japan (some already live here), I am well aware of the racism. However most people here aren't racist. They have done a lot to help me and my family, but yet to the rest of the world Japan is just a series of stereotypes. Everyone is one type of person with the same opinion. That this game has divided opinions in Japan just like it does America, but for some reason TC decided to cultivate a narrative by only showing you the worst reviews they could find should tell you something.

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Kaliesto
07/14/20 12:30:35 AM
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Can people stop labeling Japanese as Xenophobic? That hasn't been the case for a good while now.
>_>

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legendarylemur
07/14/20 4:27:20 AM
#57:


Kaliesto posted...
Can people stop labeling Japanese as Xenophobic? That hasn't been the case for a good while now.
>_>
What makes you think they've changed? They like tourists and always have. But living there long term as a foreigner still means you endure a ton of discrimination. Japan is one of the most conservative countries out there

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Kaliesto
07/14/20 4:38:01 AM
#58:


legendarylemur posted...
What makes you think they've changed? They like tourists and always have. But living there long term as a foreigner still means you endure a ton of discrimination. Japan is one of the most conservative countries out there

The minorities (that spoke of Japan) that live there say they were given way more respect than they did over in America, and I have been consistently hearing about that for the past few years now.

idk though you guys tell me if those people are objectively wrong or not, but clearly something has changed over there.

Its possible the attitude has changed somewhat in some parts of Japan maybe, but maybe not completely.

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ssjevot
07/14/20 4:54:05 AM
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When you live in Japan and speak the language you find out that actually people on CE know more about what it's like than you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/

That's the only study I've seen trying to compare different countries on racial tolerance, it's a little old now, but it doesn't show Japan as being anything close to it being one of the worst, quite the opposite. There isn't really a lot of objective data on the subject though. My subjective experience is that discrimination exists here, but it's still preferable to the situation in the US (the discrimination may be less for some groups [a lot of blacks in Japan mention it being better here than the US, and with the police violence especially I believe it], but the violence, political situation, and quality of life is much worse in the US). You constantly have people on CE spouting racial stereotypes about Japan with no consequences, but Japan is apparently the problem.

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SwayM
07/14/20 4:58:43 AM
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I see topics like this all the time and my question is what kind of soy boy beta cuck do you have to be to give two shits about what Japanese gamers think

This is not the first time someones tried to imply some final ruling on some shit cus the Japanese audience has weighed in.

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FinalFantasy462
07/14/20 5:34:58 AM
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Kosuge, is that some Naruto shit?
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AlisLandale
07/14/20 5:36:29 AM
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FinalFantasy462 posted...
Kosuge, is that some Naruto shit?

Yeah. Remember how Naruto wanted to be the Fifth Kusoge?

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Aki_Sora
07/14/20 5:52:23 AM
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Good. Thank God Japan still have better taste of Game

Compare to MURICA people that have shit taste of game
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Foppe
07/14/20 5:54:14 AM
#64:


FinalFantasy462 posted...
Kosuge, is that some Naruto shit?
Kosuge simply means bad game.

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DocDelicious
07/14/20 5:58:26 AM
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boxington posted...
"they visit a synagogue yet they make fun of cultists"

This was off-putting. Whole scene inside a synagogue talking about belief in god and how the one girl prays every day, then turn around and talk all kinds of shit about the cultists.

All religion should be treated as equally absurd.

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boxington
07/14/20 6:26:54 AM
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DocDelicious posted...
This was off-putting. Whole scene inside a synagogue talking about belief in god and how the one girl prays every day, then turn around and talk all kinds of shit about the cultists.

All religion should be treated as equally absurd.
the cultists, in this case, have no set religion.

iirc, it's a rejection of the "old ways", with the exception of its soldiers, and they have a strict set of rules, but some might believe in some higher power while others don't.

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Darmik
07/14/20 7:02:55 AM
#69:


DocDelicious posted...
This was off-putting. Whole scene inside a synagogue talking about belief in god and how the one girl prays every day, then turn around and talk all kinds of shit about the cultists.

All religion should be treated as equally absurd.

Religious folks treating other religions as absurd sounds normal to me.

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YugiNoob
07/14/20 7:29:05 AM
#70:


legendarylemur posted...
What makes you think they've changed? They like tourists and always have. But living there long term as a foreigner still means you endure a ton of discrimination. Japan is one of the most conservative countries out there
I talked to people over the years about this, and they greatly disagree. My co-worker who lived in Japan most of her life said that's an outdated perception. My mom lived in Japan and she said it's an overblown stereotype. My friend who came back from the JET program recently agrees with both.

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Kaliesto
07/14/20 7:30:14 AM
#71:


YugiNoob posted...
I talked to people over the years about this, and they greatly disagree. My co-worker who lived in Japan most of her life said that's an outdated perception. My mom lived in Japan and she said it's an overblown stereotype. My friend who came back from the JET program recently agrees with both.

Figured as much; I've also was hearing the opposite as well.

That outdated thinking died a long time ago.

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ghigost
07/14/20 8:24:48 AM
#73:


Verdekal posted...
Jews are actually liked in East Asia, or I thought so. Since they value education and wealth.
Nice joke.

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SuperShake666
07/14/20 8:30:25 AM
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This topic is far more antisemitic than I anticipated. Yikes.

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Evening_Dragon
07/14/20 8:41:42 AM
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Japan has an even worse incel problem than we do, those posts are no surprise.

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ScazarMeltex
07/14/20 8:43:05 AM
#76:


DocDelicious posted...
This was off-putting. Whole scene inside a synagogue talking about belief in god and how the one girl prays every day, then turn around and talk all kinds of shit about the cultists.

All religion should be treated as equally absurd.
People of one religion shit on other religions all time. This is not a new thing.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/14/20 8:45:38 AM
#77:


Japan speaking the truth again, they give no fucks about being PC, wish the USA got off that bullshit.

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Shablagoo
07/14/20 8:46:16 AM
#78:


DocDelicious posted...
This was off-putting. Whole scene inside a synagogue talking about belief in god and how the one girl prays every day, then turn around and talk all kinds of shit about the cultists.

All religion should be treated as equally absurd.

You cant be serious. A Jewish person praying for hope is the same to you as cultists who indiscriminately torture and murder people? Please tell me you didnt think this comment through before posting it.

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Romulox28
07/14/20 8:53:33 AM
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As soon as I got to the synagogue in the game I knew alt right assholes were going to whine about it online. Although it was kind of weird how the devs went out of the way to make Dina talk about how shes a religious Jew but at the same time youre on a brutal, homicidal revenge mission lol

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Hayame Zero
07/14/20 8:55:57 AM
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I remember when the Dynasty Warriors development studio was vandalized with "kusoge" graffiti. Even Japanese gamers know musou games are shit.

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Touch
07/14/20 9:06:43 AM
#82:


Kelystic posted...
what is kusoge
I think it translates to "not Naruto shit"

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sauceje
07/14/20 9:12:15 AM
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I like how people are saying the posts from 4chan and twitter are cherry-picked because the game is well-received in Japan, then pointing to the Amazon page posted here earlier, which shows a perfect divide between people who like the game and people who hate it:


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Balnazarr
07/14/20 9:17:26 AM
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People are fanatically obsessed with hating this game. I've had people threaten me for liking the game, insult anyone daring be positive about it. Pathetic.
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Touch
07/14/20 9:18:59 AM
#85:


Balnazarr posted...
People are fanatically obsessed with hating this game. I've had people threaten me for liking the game, insult anyone daring be positive about it. Pathetic.
It's the state of gamers today lol. It's not enough to just say you dislike a game and then leave it be. You have to announce it to the whole world how shit it is so you can have validation from others.

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IShall_Run_Amok
07/14/20 9:49:03 AM
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It turns out that Japanese losers are just as stupid as American losers.

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Doom_Art
07/14/20 9:50:24 AM
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It's weird how invested people get in hating something that's ultimately so inconsequential

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ScazarMeltex
07/14/20 10:32:42 AM
#89:


Doom_Art posted...
It's weird how invested people get in hating something that's ultimately so inconsequential
It's the internet, being hyperbolic is essentially the default setting.

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BakonBitz
07/14/20 10:54:35 AM
#90:


Darmik posted...


Religious folks treating other religions as absurd sounds normal to me.

I was about to say this.
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ssjevot
07/14/20 10:57:34 AM
#91:


sauceje posted...
I like how people are saying the posts from 4chan and twitter are cherry-picked because the game is well-received in Japan, then pointing to the Amazon page posted here earlier, which shows a perfect divide between people who like the game and people who hate it:

sauceje posted...

I specifically said opinions were divided just like in America. I'm not the one pushing the Japanese people have one opinion narrative here.

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sauceje
07/14/20 11:18:17 AM
#92:


ssjevot posted...
I specifically said opinions were divided just like in America. I'm not the one pushing the Japanese people have one opinion narrative here.
Fair enough. You also said there's more positive than negative, though, which is not quite true as the positive (4 and 5 stars) and the negative (2 and 1 stars) add up to the exact same amount >_>

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Snip-N-Snails
07/14/20 11:26:38 AM
#93:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
It turns out that Japanese losers are just as stupid as American losers.

Tbf I dont think theyve sunken to this level.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/1279841603843051520

for TloU2 at least.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
07/14/20 2:43:53 PM
#96:


Lorthremar posted...
i do enjoy how many gamers are THIS mad about gay characters existing
Yeah I don't get it, there's nothing wrong with lesbian characters as long as they aren't stereotypical. Nothing wrong with gay characters either as long as they are stereotypical, i.e. the first boss(es) from God Hand. Great characters.

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HylianFox
07/14/20 2:47:34 PM
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jeez, is TLOU2 really that bad?

I've heard nothing but awful things about it

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Turtlebread
07/14/20 2:50:41 PM
#98:


Has Japan ever made a good video game?

Checkmate.

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Jabodie
07/14/20 2:52:45 PM
#99:


HylianFox posted...
jeez, is TLOU2 really that bad?

I've heard nothing but awful things about it
No, it just triggers sensitive people for some reason.

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BakonBitz
07/14/20 6:04:37 PM
#100:


HylianFox posted...
jeez, is TLOU2 really that bad?

I've heard nothing but awful things about it

The only actual bad part about it is the pacing. Everything else is fairly subjective.
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boxington
07/14/20 6:13:42 PM
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^ I feel that issues with the pacing are also subjective.

like, I initially felt that the game was a little long, but after beating it, I felt like there wasn't any part of it that I felt could be cut and so have the same impact.

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HylianFox
07/14/20 6:17:28 PM
#102:


Snip-N-Snails posted...
Tbf I dont think theyve sunken to this level.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/1279841603843051520

for TloU2 at least.

social media was a mistake

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