Current Events > Terry Crews is trying to win a spot next to Candnece Owens.

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Hes a nice man I like him

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Imagine taking issue with his message of positivity and acceptance. Imagine being that miserable.

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Darmik posted...

Yes.

And I don't see how any of it would lead to him hating BLM.

You have the founders admitting to being 'trained marxists" which King was wholly against: https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/communism

Their website proudly promotes selling merch. Can you imagine Dr King Jr. selling merch of himself? Lol.

Shit, the very first response to Terry Crews is saying we live in a world where you can't ignore race.

Yet, that is the world MLK strived for.

People are attacking Terry Crews for saying the same sort of shit MLK did.
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Terry being based and pissing certain people off is truly a wonderful sight to behold.
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People. The issue isn't his positivity by itself.

It's the fact he has not shown this same positivityto minority people who have supported him during his own personal struggles.

If he was calling for Breonna Taylor's murderers to be arrested while also preaching love, he wouldn't be getting near the amount of criticism as he has been.

If he had supported Gabrielle Union when she came out as a victim of racist abuse on their show, he wouldn't be attacked as he has been.

Sure, there would have been idiots who would have said shit, but it wouldn't be like this.

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Slayer_22 posted...

You have the founders admitting to being 'trained marxists" which King was wholly against: https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/communism

Their website proudly promotes selling merch. Can you imagine Dr King Jr. selling merch of himself? Lol.

Shit, the very first response to Terry Crews is saying we live in a world where you can't ignore race.

Yet, that is the world MLK strived for.

People are attacking Terry Crews for saying the same sort of shit MLK did.

Just want to make sure I get you.

You think if MLK was alive today, saw what happened to George Floyd and what happened afterwards, he'd be backing up Terry Crews and saying not all black people are good and not all white people are bad and...that's about it?

Like you know his son is out there backing up BLM yeah?

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Darmik posted...

Just want to make sure I get you.

You think if MLK was alive today, saw what happened to George Floyd and what happened afterwards, he'd be backing up Terry Crews and saying not all black people are good and not all white people are bad and...that's about it?

Like you know his son is out there backing up BLM yeah?

No, I don't think BLM would have existed if it was for him. We'd have something much better, I feel, if he were alive today. And yes, he would say the same stuff Terry Crews said, as he has already said that. Not in the same words, of course. He'd be preaching acceptance, tolerance, and peace. As he always did.

And children are not their father. Look at Chrisopher Tolkien(RIP). Or various other legacies that have changed entirely. To say 'well, their kid agrees with this' doesn't mean they would.

Nice stealth edit.

Yes. He was out there 'blabbing about love'.

Yes, it is love that will save our world and our civilization, love even for enemies. Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fs8vSsJg-A
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Kastrada posted...

People. The issue isn't his positivity by itself.

It's the fact he has not shown this same positivityto minority people who have supported him during his own personal struggles.

If he was calling for Breonna Taylor's murderers to be arrested while also preaching love, he wouldn't be getting near the amount of criticism as he has been.

If he had supported Gabrielle Union when she came out as a victim of racist abuse on their show, he wouldn't be attacked as he has been.

Sure, there would have been idiots who would have said shit, but it wouldn't be like this.

You see this is kinda weird because it assumes he's obligated to speak out on every issue. He's not, no one is. That doesn't take away from his message now.

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Slayer_22 posted...

No, I don't think BLM would have existed if it was for him. We'd have something much better, I feel, if he were alive today. And yes, he would say the same stuff Terry Crews said, as he has already said that. Not in the same words, of course. He'd be preaching acceptance, tolerance, and peace. As he always did.

And children are not their father. Look at Chrisopher Tolkien(RIP). Or various other legacies that have changed entirely. To say 'well, their kid agrees with this' doesn't mean they would.

Nice stealth edit.

Yes. He was out there 'blabbing about love'.

Yes, it is love that will save our world and our civilization, love even for enemies. Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fs8vSsJg-A

So you support his Revolution of Values for the US?

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Darmik posted...

So you support his Revolution of Values for the US?

Are you speaking of his Beyond Vietnam speech?
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Vyrulisse posted...

Imagine taking issue with his message of positivity and acceptance. Imagine being that miserable.

This

Unless I'm missing some major context, why are people mad about this? There must be more to the story, but I'm not reading this whole topic and I'm too dumb to read Twitter.

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Bad_Mojo posted...

This

Unless I'm missing some major context, why are people mad about this? There must be more to the story, but I'm not reading this whole topic and I'm too dumb to read Twitter.

No, people are just mad he isn't bending over for BLM.
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he gonna be cancelled in hollywood he better shut up

Slayer_22 posted...

Are you speaking of his Beyond Vietnam speech?

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/01/20/dr-kings-radical-revolution-values

The necessity of protests

Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth.
Letter From a Birmingham Jail, 1963

The distribution of wealth

Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all Gods children.
Negro American Labor Council, 1961

Health care

Dr. King also told the Medical Committee for Human Rights in 1966, Of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane.

Labor movements and worker rights

The two most dynamic and cohesive liberal forces in the country are the labor movement and the Negro freedom movement. Together we can be architects of democracy.
Address to the Fourth Constitutional Convention of the AFL-CIO, August 1961

End to the military

We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for the victims of our nation, for those it calls enemy, for no document from human hands can make these humans any less our brothers.
Beyond Vietnam, 1967

when we say Thou shalt not kill, were really saying that human life is too sacred to be taken on the battlefields of the world. Man is more than a tiny vagary of whirling electrons or a wisp of smoke from a limitless smoldering.

I'm just not seeing anything where he would be opposed to the current movement. if anything you sound like someone who would oppose him with your comments in this topic.

A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth.
Beyond Vietnam, 1967

"Our only hope today lies in our ability to recapture the revolutionary spirit and go out into a sometimes hostile world declaring eternal hostility to poverty, racism, and militarism."-King on April, 4th 1967 in New York City.

I don't think he'd be happy with the current state of the US at all.

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no reasonable person is saying white people are bad. no reasonable blm supporter wants black supremacy.

so like...okay? thanks for your input terry?

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Vyrulisse posted...

You see this is kinda weird because it assumes he's obligated to speak out on every issue. He's not, no one is. That doesn't take away from his message now.

You are misinterpreting what I am saying. I'm not saying he should speak on every issue. Relevant issues? Yes. He's spoken about peace and love and all of this stuff. But only in criticism to BLM. Not about the literal murder victims. That's the problem. Well one of. The second issue....

Bad_Mojo posted...

This

Unless I'm missing some major context, why are people mad about this? There must be more to the story, but I'm not reading this whole topic and I'm too dumb to read Twitter.

Slayer_22 posted...

No, people are just mad he isn't bending over for BLM.

People are mad because he hasn't shown to follow what he preaches.

You can't preach equality and acceptance while also shitting all over non-hetero families.
You can't come out with your personal story of abuse and accept unconditional support and thrown one of your supporters under the bus when she comes out with her own story of abuse.

That's why I said if he had support Gabby and addressed the murders, this wouldn't be as big of an issue. It's not about kissing BLM asses. It's about being louder in your criticism to the people pissed at those deaths and not at the murderers themselves. It's about preaching equality while espousing superior viewpoints of others. It's about basking in the support after you come out with your abuse story (when you rightfully deserve it), but then run and hide behind your wife when a peer suffers abuse at those in power as well.

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Oh no an opinion! And not even a weird one!

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Did i just see tc equate how black people are treated in america now to how jewish people were treated in nazi germany.

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Kastrada posted...

You can't preach equality and acceptance while also shitting all over non-hetero families.

Really? He's homophobic? Wouldn't really shock me, a lot of people still are.
Kastrada posted...

You can't come out with your personal story of abuse and accept unconditional support and thrown one of your supporters under the bus when she comes out with her own story of abuse.

Oh yeah, he was apart of the MeToo speakout, right? Like someone sexually harassed or abused him at an audition or something? Who did he throw under the bus? So she stood buy him, and he didn't stand by her?

Thanks for some more info

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cjsdowg posted...

How about in 1940 Warsaw someone said..

Remember all Aryans are bad and not all Jewish people are good.
And we have to watch out for Jewish Supremacy .

are you really comparing whites to 1940s aryans
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Terry Crews is a beautiful human.

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Bad_Mojo posted...

Really? He's homophobic? Wouldn't really shock me, a lot of people still are.

To an extent. Paraphrasing but he said a child is malnourished without a father in their life. Which yeah, parental figures in a child's life are good things. But he meant specifically a man-woman dynamic. Someone pointed out single-parent homes and same-sex homes and he doubled down. Basically saying heterosexual couples are the best way to raise children.

Bad_Mojo posted...

Oh yeah, he was apart of the MeToo speakout, right? Like someone sexually harassed or abused him at an audition or something? Who did he throw under the bus? So she stood buy him, and he didn't stand by her?

So Gabrielle Union was raped when she was much younger and has since been VERY supportive of victims of rape and sexual assault. Children, women, men. Doesn't matter. She's 100% on your side.

So Terry Crews came out saying he was sexual assaulted by a Hollywood exec at a party. Gabby was right there with supporting him unconditionally. She talked about how brave he was and how men are victims too and need our support.

Well they worked together on America's Got Talent and she had to deal with some racist attitudes from the showrunners/producers. She went public with that and Terry spoke on it. He didn't support her at all, dismissed her statements, and then said something about how the only woman he sides with is his wife.

He eventually did apologize and said he dismissed her coming out but.....the fact that he didn't support her in the first place when he's been all about receiving support and helping out others and bringing people together. It's just a red flag to me.

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I wouldn't be surprised if he's homophobic, being gay is very stigmatized in the Black community.

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This is a reasonable take though

why is cjsdowg so overdramatic with literally every topic he makes? Hes like Drajes little brother

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Poop2 posted...

I dont even understand why hes making this point I havent heard a single person saying all white people are evil I just dont understand what the point of this is?...

Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo say it all the time on CNN.

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cjsdowg posted...

When most of the people who are liking his post , also like Trump . That says something .

We need to move beyond this Us vs Them and My team is better than your team mentality.

Consider the content of the message and judge it on whether it is positive or not, whether it unifies or divides. Crews message is only controversial if you were never interested in helping each other move forward.

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Thanks a lot, @Kastrada . You did me a huge favor by helping me

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

We need to move beyond this Us vs Them and My team is better than your team mentality.

Consider the content of the message and judge it on whether it is positive or not, whether it unifies or divides. Crews message is only controversial if you were never interested in helping each other move forward.

If you said it the other way around, do you think all of these Trump fans would be saying how great he is. If he told Republican watch out for white supremacy do you think they would support him after that. He keeps attacking black people and acting as white people are the victims in all of his posting .

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Kastrada posted...

He eventually did apologize and said he dismissed her coming out but.....the fact that he didn't support her in the first place when he's been all about receiving support and helping out others and bringing people together. It's just a red flag to me.

To quote my man Godfrey: "Terry, you're a star. Everyone loves you. You don't have to keep grinning and 'yas sahr-ing' these rich white folk to keep your job. They need you and the money you make them more than you need them."

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BB mofo posted...

To quote my man Godfrey: "Terry, you're a star. Everyone loves you. You don't have to keep grinning and 'yas sahr-ing' these rich white folk to keep your job. They need you and the money you make them more than you need them."

I honestly kinda wonder if he has some PTSD after being sexually assaulted by that Hollywood exec. Men already under report and don't get the support they need from something like that. For it being from someone that could have ruined his livelihood, and we just know there are more of those people out there, I wonder if this is Terry's self-preservation mode.

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cjsdowg posted...

Yet for some reason most of the people following him are Trump supporters. Is Trump a good person? Was he good when attack Black Basketball players , Black Race car rivers , Black football players , black Children. Black President, Black vets, ect ?

Yet it's untrue that most of his followers are Trump supporters and it's remember that you're not good yet you're against him.

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What's wrong with that tweet though

can TC please apologize for insulting my ancestors by comparing me, a white jewish man, to our murderers in the 40s
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

can TC please apologize for insulting my ancestors by comparing me, a white jewish man, to our murderers in the 40s

1. Not all Aryans were murders, just like not all white people are racist. The fact that you are so insult by my post and don't see what is wrong with Terry's statement says a lot .

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coh posted...

What's wrong with that tweet though

Nothing. Every black man who doesn't think like TC is bad. I've seen this before.

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onedarksoul posted...

Nothing. Every black man who doesn't think like TC is bad. I've seen this before.

Straw man much .

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Darmik posted...

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/01/20/dr-kings-radical-revolution-values

The necessity of protests

The distribution of wealth

Health care

Labor movements and worker rights

End to the military

I'm just not seeing anything where he would be opposed to the current movement. if anything you sound like someone who would oppose him with your comments in this topic.

I don't think he'd be happy with the current state of the US at all.

I don't think he'd be happy with it either. And a lot of what you posted, I agree with. Please, point to where I said otherwise. Point to where I'd oppose him. I seriously can't see it.

I support protests(NOT riots), healthcare, a better economy, etc. But what in the hell does that have to do with what we were talking about lol?
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this is not the right way to get a president with "Mountain Dew" in his name...

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

can TC please apologize for insulting my ancestors by comparing me, a white jewish man, to our murderers in the 40s

dude fuck off with this shit. At least you have access to information on your ancestors and you maybe know who they are or even better yet maybe have met them. I still have nothing but a dead end "I would have been..." surname 2-3 years after taking a fucking DNA test that I still occasionally get emails about but they're always fucking spam and ads...

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SpiritSephiroth posted...

I agree 100% with that tweet. If you have a problem with it, you should re-evaluate yourself.

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coh posted...

What's wrong with that tweet though

Nothing

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pauIie posted...

no reasonable person is saying white people are bad. no reasonable blm supporter wants black supremacy.

so like...okay? thanks for your input terry?

Pretty much this. All he is doing is "confirming" suspicions that racists have about BLM, that there's some secret plot for black supremacy. This not so long after the Gabriel Union fiasco, invalidating her experiences with racism just because he didn't experience it himself, sounds especially questionable, so he's just adding himself to the list of Candace Owens, Kanye West, and Ben Carson where rednecks can point to and think their viewpoints are now legitimized now that they have another black person to add to their small collection parroting their public facade.

But given this board's hate boner about anything BLM, there is literally zero surprise that people are blindly agreeing with his false kumbaya schtick and laughably telling others to reevaluate themselves. Hilarious.

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MacadamianNut3 posted...

Pretty much this. All he is doing is "confirming" suspicions that racists have about BLM, that there's some secret plot for black supremacy. This not so long after the Gabriel Union fiasco sounds especially questionable, so he's just adding himself to the list of Candace Owens, Kanye West, and Ben Carson where rednecks can point to and think their viewpoints are now legitimized now that they have another black person to add to their small collection parroting their public facade.

But given this board's hate boner about anything BLM, there is literally zero surprise that people are blindly agreeing with his false kumbaya schtick and laughably telling others to reevaluate themselves. Hilarious.

I swear, it's like some of you all just have a friend read out stuff to you in the worst way possible and pretend you actually read it yourself, then create these crazy as hell theories to justify it.
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Slayer_22 posted...

I swear, it's like some of you all just have a friend read out stuff to you in the worst way possible and pretend you actually read it yourself, then create these crazy as hell theories to justify it.

Speaking of takes that don't address any point, seems like you've left some clown makeup on

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Smackems posted...

Nothing

Reading the replies to it make me feel like I'm not even on earth anymore

I asked alot of people this and most are not answering.

Would you have supported this statement ?

How about in 1940 Warsaw someone said..

Remember all Aryans are bad and not all Jewish people are good.
And we have to watch out for Jewish Supremacy .

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MacadamianNut3 posted...

Speaking of takes that don't address any point, seems like you've left some clown makeup on

Your take seems to fit that bill better than me, your post was some weird theory crafting from hell, mine was commenting on that.
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Slayer_22 posted...

Your take seems to fit that bill better than me, your post was some weird theory crafting from hell, mine was commenting on that.

Yeah so are you done attempting whatever you're doing not addressing any relevant point while talking about other people not reading stuff themselves, or do you want to show the board your ass a little bit more

There's no theory crafting from mentioning what happened earlier this year and the fuckwads on Twitter and Facebook parroting his shit

A link for people with short term memory: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/terry-crews-apologizes-gabrielle-union-america-s-got-talent-comments-n1127951

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cjsdowg posted...

I asked alot of people this and most are not answering.

Would you have supported this statement ?

How about in 1940 Warsaw someone said..

Remember all Aryans are bad and not all Jewish people are good.
And we have to watch out for Jewish Supremacy .

Because what you're saying is flawed, incorrect, and doesn't hold the same sincerity Terry's tweet did.

It's just...stupid. Honestly. You're just pretending you have a point, when you sound more racist than anyone.
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MacadamianNut3 posted...

Yeah so are you done attempting whatever you're doing not addressing any relevant point while talking about other people not reading stuff themselves, or do you want to show the board your ass a little bit more

There's no theory crafting from mentioning what happened earlier this year and the fuckwads on Twitter and Facebook parroting his shit

There is theorycrafting from just making a gigantic, longwinded, theory based assumption off what Terry Crews said, yes.
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In another surprise of the century, after looking up the Don Lemon clip of course Terry Crews pulled out the tried and true "how can you say black lives matter when there's black on black crime", because we know that random people shooting each other is comparable to paid public servants doing whatever the hell they want to minorities

Why can't I contain all of this surprise

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