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Tactical_Spork
06/22/20 4:10:06 PM
#151:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Bruh what the fuck
separates her by force from friend

forbids her from contacting ANYONE

forces physical contact

takes her phone to further inhibit her contacting anyone

tries to coerce her into leaving with him by gaslighting her about her friend

physically corners her and goes on a misogynistic rant, then continues to try and guilt her into feeling like she owes it to him to sleep with him

he tried to fucking rape her. Just because he didnt hold a gun to her head doesnt mean it was an attempt at forcing her to sleep with him.

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Lost_All_Senses
06/22/20 4:11:10 PM
#152:


KiwiTerraRizing posted...
You take the accuser seriously but realize their accusation needs more corroboration, not that hard. If you instantly dont believe them then you are a piece of shit.

I agree with this as long as it doesn't involve trying to tear down the other person before more information comes out.

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Jabodie
06/22/20 4:13:40 PM
#153:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
My main thing is that I'd never throw away a person for this.
I'll 100% agree there. This is one of those nights you hear your boy complaining about and you're like "come on bro."

Lost_All_Senses posted...
But you're also pushing off the responsibility completely on the guy if you're blaming Joe for that.
For me, it's his POV I can understand more intuitively, and he's also the person in this story that's actually relevant. I can acknowledge her mistakes, but it's Joe I'm interested in for those 2 reasons.

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KiwiTerraRizing
06/22/20 4:13:46 PM
#154:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
I agree with this as long as it doesn't involve trying to tear down the other person before more information comes out.

I tend to agree but no other crime gets people so eager to condemn the victim. If this Joe guy stole a car nobody would be rushing to call the victim a liar.

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Gobstoppers12
06/22/20 4:14:26 PM
#155:


BeantownHero posted...
If anything like what you described happened, that dude is getting thrown the fuck out AT THE MINIMUM
As I said, it's not cool. It's drunk idiot behavior. I'm not condoning it. I'm calling it common, especially in a situation like this when a man's had a girl with him all night before finding out she's got a boyfriend right before last call.

We're also only getting the girl's side of it. Based on her writing style (and her quickness to designate herself as the young, impressionable, vulnerable innocence of the story) I'd be pretty surprised if the incident was half as rough as she described it.

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Blue_Inigo
06/22/20 4:20:04 PM
#156:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
As I said, it's not cool. It's drunk idiot behavior. I'm not condoning it. I'm calling it common, especially in a situation like this when a man's had a girl with him all night before finding out she's got a boyfriend right before last call.

We're also only getting the girl's side of it. Based on her writing style (and her quickness to designate herself as the young, impressionable, vulnerable innocence of the story) I'd be pretty surprised if the incident was half as rough as she described it.
This behavior started before he was even drunk and being drunk DOES NOT EXCUSE any actions he makes. Fuck off

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Anteaterking
06/22/20 4:21:18 PM
#157:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
I dont see how thats going to work when the world is filled with groupies who do want to bang celebrities, even lower rung celebrities who are just influencers or content creators. Yes, not every woman is interested, as Angry Joe found out with this particular fan, but there are enough of them that I dont blame him for trying.

There's a sliding scale. The more famous/affluent someone is, the more naive you have to be to think that your interaction is going to be any more than transactional.

I don't think Angry Joe is enough of a celebrity to reach that level. He's basically just famous enough to think he can pull it off, but not famous enough to be successful. I mean, do you come away from reading the story thinking that he succeeds at this tactic a lot? He sounds really desperate.

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Lost_All_Senses
06/22/20 4:22:59 PM
#158:


Jabodie posted...
I'll 100% agree there. This is one of those nights you hear your boy complaining about and you're like "come on bro."

For me, it's his POV I can understand more intuitively, and he's also the person in this story that's actually relevant. I can acknowledge her mistakes, but it's Joe I'm interested in for those 2 reasons.

I feel you. I have 3 sisters so I try to be reasonable. If anything drastic happened to them, I might be much more emotionally driven about it for all I know. But it either hasn't or they don't tell me or show it. I understand why someone would be ready to torch someone. I just don't want to play into that. Maybe I'll end up on the wrong side here or there, but I'll correct myself when that happens. Blue_Indigo seems to be on a quest to villaify me for it but I'm secure in how I deal with these things.

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bobbysjoby2
06/22/20 4:23:02 PM
#159:


lol imagine defending Incel Joe on this
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Tactical_Spork
06/22/20 4:24:21 PM
#160:


dude stop minimizing this predatory shit as drunk idiot behavior. Being drunk didnt make him do this, it made him bad at hiding it.

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Lost_All_Senses
06/22/20 4:25:58 PM
#161:


Tactical_Spork posted...
dude stop minimizing this predatory shit as drunk idiot behavior. Being drunk didnt make him do this, it made him bad at hiding it.

I also agree that alcohol isn't an excuse. If alcohol IS the reason and you don't cut it out your life, then you're willingly giving into the problem anyway. Still completely your responsibility

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sevihaimerej
06/22/20 4:27:29 PM
#162:


Wait...this isn't rape, he was just being a drunk asshat. The fact that she didn't get tf outta there earlier after all the general douchery described makes this story sound a bit suspect as well, but even if all true it isn't worthy of a #metoo ffs lol

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L0Z
06/22/20 4:28:00 PM
#163:


Maybe Joe has Asperger's and can't pick up on social cues so he needs to be told, "I have a boyfriend and even if I didn't I wouldn't be interested in a fat slob like you."
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Tactical_Spork
06/22/20 4:28:44 PM
#164:


sevihaimerej posted...
Wait...this isn't rape, he was just being a drunk asshat. The fact that she didn't get tf outta there earlier after all the general douchery described makes this story sound a bit suspect as well, but even if all true it isn't worthy of a #metoo ffs lol
Its not rape because she escaped before he raped her. She didnt leave because she was being prevented from doing literally anything that would allow her to.

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sevihaimerej
06/22/20 4:32:28 PM
#165:


Tactical_Spork posted...
Its not rape because she escaped before he raped her. She didnt leave because she was being prevented from doing literally anything that would allow her to.
You don't know that he would've raped her, rapists don't care if a woman leads them on they're just waiting for a vulnerable moment, this was over many hours and no rape attempts seems to me to indicate that rape wasn't the goal. Sex may have been the goal but it sounds like Joe thought she was some kinda groupie

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Lost_All_Senses
06/22/20 4:34:14 PM
#166:


sevihaimerej posted...
You don't know that he would've raped her, rapists don't care if a woman leads them on they're just waiting for a vulnerable moment, this was over many hours and no rape attempts seems to me to indicate that rape wasn't the goal. Sex may have been the goal but it sounds like Joe thought she was some kinda groupie

Rapists also don't tend to give the victim every opportunity to leave and also parade them around with them showing that they're with the person they're going to rape later. This dude is just on something

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Lorenzo_2003
06/22/20 4:36:47 PM
#167:


Anteaterking posted...
I mean, do you come away from reading the story thinking that he succeeds at this tactic a lot?

I have no idea if Angry Joe is ever successful with his methods, so Id just be guessing. What I will say is he strikes me as a very minor YouTube celebrity who is not exceptional in the expected areas such as looks, charisma, or any of that, yet he was still able to convince this woman to hang out with him, follow him into his room while he showered and then continued hanging out with him, until he realized that they were not going to have sex.

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Tactical_Spork
06/22/20 4:39:16 PM
#168:


Yall straight up do not fucking understand what constitutes rape lol

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Lost_All_Senses
06/22/20 4:40:24 PM
#169:


Tactical_Spork posted...
Yall straight up do not fucking understand what constitutes rape lol

School us

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Bass_X0
06/22/20 4:49:08 PM
#170:


Zikten posted...
someone else tried to MeTOO Danny from Game Grumps but most people didn't believe it. I don't either.

I can believe that Danny had in the past used his status as a youtube celebrity to get fans to sleep with him. But I don't believe he is some creepy pedophile about it.

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BeyondWalls
06/22/20 5:00:47 PM
#171:


The_Shard posted...
I can't imagine caring about a guy failing to hook up with a girl
Is that what you really think happened here?
Angry Joe just "failed to hook up?"

Jesus Christ. No wonder the poll from last week showed a quarter of the people here are virgins. I'm starting to wonder if some of you have even met a woman. This was not a "date." This was not "failing to hook up."

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pfh1001
06/22/20 5:03:28 PM
#172:


sevihaimerej posted...
Wait...this isn't rape, he was just being a drunk asshat. The fact that she didn't get tf outta there earlier after all the general douchery described makes this story sound a bit suspect as well, but even if all true it isn't worthy of a #metoo ffs lol


Agreed. She should have said she had a boyfriend & left after he took her to his hotel room (or before, ideally).
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BeyondWalls
06/22/20 5:03:30 PM
#173:


BeantownHero posted...
Dude gets drunk, tries to separate her from her friends, outright attempts to poison the well in a REALLY gross way (insinuating her friend would rape her) and goes off on her with the most cringey play ever (I took you out/paid for all this, you owe me)

The fact that people are dismissing what happened becuase it doesnt inherently rise to criminality is really scary, that's not to even get into some of yall outright blaming her for "leading him on"

That "implication" scene with Dennis in always sunny is a really genius example of how some of you all sound right now.
This guy gets it.

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The_Shard
06/22/20 5:10:33 PM
#174:


BeantownHero posted...
Dude gets drunk, tries to separate her from her friends, outright attempts to poison the well in a REALLY gross way (insinuating her friend would rape her) and goes off on her with the most cringey play ever (I took you out/paid for all this, you owe me)

The fact that people are dismissing what happened becuase it doesnt inherently rise to criminality is really scary, that's not to even get into some of yall outright blaming her for "leading him on"

That "implication" scene with Dennis in always sunny is a really genius example of how some of you all sound right now.
You know what the solution is to all of this?

Leave and go home.

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Propane4Sale
06/22/20 5:12:35 PM
#175:


Twitter mob got to her now.
https://mobile.twitter.com/WookieMonsterTV/status/1275090863174139905

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BeantownHero
06/22/20 5:15:08 PM
#176:


The_Shard posted...
You know what the solution is to all of this?

Leave and go home.

Or just be a better man, so the women who is more then likely less physically imposing and thus, at a major disadvantage if things turn violent, doesnt have to navigate the feelings of an aggressive drunk dude who has demonstrated hes willing to be physical in his pursuit

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The_Shard
06/22/20 5:17:44 PM
#177:


BeantownHero posted...
Or just be a better man, so the women who is more then likely less physically imposing and thus, at a major disadvantage if things turn violent, doesnt have to navigate the feelings of an aggressive drunk dude who has demonstrated hes willing to be physical in his pursuit
If someone is being rude, pushy and unpleasant, you have no obligation to stay with them.

Women are capable of making decisions and following through with them.

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BeantownHero
06/22/20 5:20:05 PM
#178:


The_Shard posted...
If someone is being rude, pushy and unpleasant, you have no obligation to stay with them.

Women are capable of making decisions and following through with them.

I could show you more than enough examples of women turning down advances of drunk men, only to end up assaulted or killed

*trigger warning*: women is shown on video being assaulted

https://twitter.com/ParisMilanYT/status/1273001743203201024?s=19


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Background_Guy
06/22/20 5:22:32 PM
#179:


What did Cry do?
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The_Shard
06/22/20 5:26:11 PM
#180:


BeantownHero posted...
I could show you more than enough examples of women turning down advances of drunk men, only to end up assaulted or killed

*trigger warning*: women is shown on video being assaulted

https://twitter.com/ParisMilanYT/status/1273001743203201024?s=19
Yeah, no shit violence and assault happen. If you can walk away from it then do so. Call your friends. Give your friends a signal. Say you're sick or have diarrhea and need to go to washroom and go home.... There's lots of things she can do other than go along with it like some helpless victim. Let's empower women, not make them victims.

For every every assault there's 10x instances of no assault happening.

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Musourenka
06/22/20 5:27:25 PM
#181:


Propane4Sale posted...
Twitter mob got to her now.
https://mobile.twitter.com/WookieMonsterTV/status/1275090863174139905

Fucking A.

And people still wonder why many women don't share their assault or harassment stories.

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BeantownHero
06/22/20 5:27:52 PM
#182:


Ok

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FrankJaegr
06/22/20 5:28:23 PM
#183:


BeantownHero posted...
I could show you more than enough examples of women turning down advances of drunk men, only to end up assaulted or killed

*trigger warning*: women is shown on video being assaulted

https://twitter.com/ParisMilanYT/status/1273001743203201024?s=19

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BeantownHero
06/22/20 5:28:40 PM
#184:


Musourenka posted...
Fucking A.

And people still wonder why many women don't share their assault or harassment stories.

this topic is proof their claims are valid

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Background_Guy
06/22/20 5:28:59 PM
#185:


BeantownHero posted...
Or just be a better man, so the women who is more then likely less physically imposing and thus, at a major disadvantage if things turn violent, doesnt have to navigate the feelings of an aggressive drunk dude who has demonstrated hes willing to be physical in his pursuit
It's very misogynistic to say women don't have control over their own actions. Women don't need men to lead them around or give them permission to Express themselves. Smh

Also you're straight up saying that a healthy young woman is weaker than a chubby middle-aged nerd, that is also problematic.
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The_Shard
06/22/20 5:34:06 PM
#186:


BeantownHero posted...
this topic is proof their claims are valid
What? This topic is proof that people have different opinions on what constitutes predatory behaviour/assault.


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BeantownHero
06/22/20 5:40:25 PM
#187:


Background_Guy posted...
It's very misogynistic to say women don't have control over their own actions. Women don't need men to lead them around or give them permission to Express themselves. Smh

Also you're straight up saying that a healthy young woman is weaker than a chubby middle-aged nerd, that is also problematic.

this sounded a lot better in your head, I'm sure


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Musourenka
06/22/20 5:40:33 PM
#188:


Angry Joe's thoughts on this:

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1274954309164294147?s=19

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1275091979085455361?s=19

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pinky0926
06/22/20 5:40:58 PM
#189:


So what I'm getting from this thread is basically this

Girl: this guy behaved in a way that wasnt on
Gamer men on the internet: THAT DOESNT MAKE HIM A RAPIST
Girl: I know, I didnt say that. I sai-
Gamer men on the internet: yet another attack on mens rights

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Blue_Inigo
06/22/20 5:42:46 PM
#190:


Propane4Sale posted...
Twitter mob got to her now.
https://mobile.twitter.com/WookieMonsterTV/status/1275090863174139905
It's fucked that humanity is so ready to shit on women for sharing a terrible thing that happened to them

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pinky0926
06/22/20 5:44:02 PM
#191:


Blue_Inigo posted...
It's fucked that humanity is so ready to shit on women for sharing their experiences with men

Haven't you heard

Anytime a woman says the R word all men lose some of their human rights

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Tactical_Spork
06/22/20 5:46:17 PM
#192:


pinky0926 posted...
So what I'm getting from this thread is basically this

Girl: this guy behaved in a way that wasnt on
Gamer men on the internet: THAT DOESNT MAKE HIM A RAPIST
Girl: I know, I didnt say that. I sai-
Gamer men on the internet: yet another attack on mens rights
Whats really wild is how blatantly this is attempted rape/the lead up to it and mfs are still blaming her

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pinky0926
06/22/20 5:48:16 PM
#193:


Like I fully support that Joe can defend himself and that you cant blindly trust anything you read, but damn so many of you guys out yourselves immediately with your arguments.

Like you'll believe the sky will fall down and everyone is participating in the matrix before you'll believe that a man somewhere in the world might have acted sexually coercive at some point.

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Touch
06/22/20 5:48:28 PM
#194:


Blue_Inigo posted...
It's fucked that humanity is so ready to shit on women for sharing a terrible thing that happened to them
Twitter is so shit

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The_Shard
06/22/20 5:48:42 PM
#195:


Blue_Inigo posted...
It's fucked that humanity is so ready to shit on women for sharing a terrible thing that happened to them
You can say whatever you want about any man. It's the onslaught of bad intentions that goes along with it.

Or if you have a bad date you could just keep your experience among your friends instead of announcing it on social media.

I'm sure everyone on this board has had poor interactions with other people. Should we all cancel each other and shame each other by name on social media?

I don't need to know this guy is a pervey drunk just because he makes videos about games.

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cjsdowg
06/22/20 5:48:57 PM
#196:


Blue_Inigo posted...
It's fucked that humanity is so ready to shit on women for sharing a terrible thing that happened to them

Do you see the irony in your post ?

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Background_Guy
06/22/20 5:49:34 PM
#197:


BeantownHero posted...
this sounded a lot better in your head, I'm sure

Sorry, I'm against infantilizing and demeaning women. I consider them fully capable adults, and I hope that some day you might consider that as well.
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Bass_X0
06/22/20 5:51:20 PM
#198:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2o1yPmAmNo

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BeantownHero
06/22/20 5:51:56 PM
#199:


Background_Guy posted...
Sorry, I'm against infantilizing and demeaning women. I consider them fully capable adults, and I hope that some day you might consider that as well.

...do you know anything about sexual assault? I'm sincerely asking.

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Tactical_Spork
06/22/20 5:51:56 PM
#200:


The_Shard posted...
You can say whatever you want about any man. It's the onslaught of bad intentions that goes along with it.

Or if you have a bad date you could just keep your experience among your friends instead of announcing it on social media.

I'm sure everyone on this board has had poor interactions with other people. Should we all cancel each other and shame each other by name on social media?

I don't need to know this guy is a pervey drunk just because he makes videos about games.
ok ok women -might- be victims of sexual violence but they should still shut up about it

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