Current Events > Liberals are getting their dream, atlanta cops quitting right now

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Siaperaz posted...

That man was dangerous. If he had tased the coped he probably would have executed them on site. A man that beats and abuses children would have no problem doing that to the cops too.

Cops have a higher rate of domestic abuse.


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Dathrowed1 posted...

According to the DA, state law says Brooks used a "deadly weapon"

According to the testimony of the cop that was actually there, that deadly weapon was useless and he was no longer a threat.

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Those are photos when ATF visited my white neighbors. A very fake and made up scenario as you can see. This is the last post about race that should be made because it's bullshit.

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I wasnt referring to you little drug raid story, I was talking about your what if he did this and that scenarios you were making up.

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

According to the testimony of the cop that was actually there, that deadly weapon was useless and he was no longer a threat.

Didn't know cops were law interpreters

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Tmaster148 posted...

Cops have a higher rate of domestic abuse.

Rayshard Brooks had a 100% rate of child abuse so that's impossible. I am tired of Rayshard Brooks being portrayed as a great man.

Rayshard Brooks, contrary to George Floyd, resisted and attacked the cops. George Floyd didn't beat kids and didn't resist or attack cops.

The cops were justified to defend themselves vs Rayshard Brooks. There was no justification for the death of George Floyd which was 100% avoidable.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

How about this one. They already know who he is and where he lives. They arrest him at 6 AM the next day.

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Dathrowed1 posted...

Didn't know cops were law interpreters

Maybe if the were better interpreters, theyd be better enforcers as well.

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

Maybe if the were better interpreters, theyd be better enforcers as well.

Well if they were better interpreters, they'd be lawyers actually

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

I wasnt referring to you little drug raid story, I was talking about your what if he did this and that scenarios you were making up.

I don't believe you.

You said I only made that point because I thought he was black. And because he was black he would get into a fight. I simply argued with first hand evidence that police get into fights with all ethnicities. Now you're trying to cover your ass.

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Siaperaz posted...

Rayshard Brooks had a 100% rate of child abuse so that's impossible. I am tired of Rayshard Brooks being portrayed as a great man.

Rayshard Brooks, contrary to George Floyd, resisted and attacked the cops. George Floyd didn't beat kids and didn't resist or attack cops.

The cops were justified to defend themselves vs Rayshard Brooks. There was no justification for the death of George Floyd which was 100% avoidable.

Not one single person is defending Brooks. People are criticizing the officers actions.

Stop trying to equate the two.

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https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1272870941098418176

2 cops watch a gang harras and beat innocent man in the head.

Brag about not upholding the law.

Guy runs away from cops.

Shot twice in the back for being "A potential threat." even though cops on the scene admit he wasn't one.

And this is protecting and serving the community, this is justice?
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Siaperaz posted...

Rayshard Brooks had a 100% rate of child abuse so that's impossible. I am tired of Rayshard Brooks being portrayed as a great man.

Rayshard Brooks, contrary to George Floyd, resisted and attacked the cops. George Floyd didn't beat kids and didn't resist or attack cops.

The cops were justified to defend themselves vs Rayshard Brooks. There was no justification for the death of George Floyd which was 100% avoidable.

That doesn't make it okay to shoot him in the back

No one is defending Rayshard Brooks' character.

It doesn't matter. He shouldn't have been shot twice in the back by an incompetent cop.
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rahasperj posted...

Those are photos when ATF visited my white neighbors. A very fake and made up scenario as you can see. This is the last post about race that should be made because it's bullshit.

I guess you haven't been paying attention to what's going on in the world with that whole Black Lives Matter thing...yes, racism is bullshit, and race shouldn't be an issue, but it's obviously a big issue, and one that I think you should take more seriously, no matter your views on trying to justify murder.
UnfairRepresent posted...

That doesn't make it okay to shoot him in the back

No one is defending Rayshard Brooks' character.

It doesn't matter. He shouldn't have been shot twice in the back by an incompetent cop.

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rahasperj posted...

I don't believe you.

You said I only made that point because I thought he was black. And because he was black he would get into a fight. I simply argued with first hand evidence that police get into fights with all ethnicities. Now you're trying to cover your ass.

No, I asked you if thats how you thought (black)people think.

The black is in parentheses to add another layer to the question. As I said I was unsure if you knew the mans race, which is why I asked it where way I did. I could have been much more disrespectful and ignorant in my inquiry.

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indica posted...

I guess you haven't been paying attention to what's going on in the world with that whole Black Lives Matter thing...yes, racism is bullshit, and race shouldn't be an issue, but it's obviously a big issue, and one that I think you should take more seriously, no matter your views on trying to justify murder

Not what I was saying. The pictures weren't to disprove any of that. It was simply proof of what I personally saw, and that I wasn't making assumptions based off of "tv scenarios" but what I've seen in my own life.

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Its sad that an entire city of cops is asked the question can you guys have more accountability and their response is to throw a fit and refuse to do their job. Maybe they never should have been cops to begin with

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

No, I asked you if thats how you thought (black)people think.

The black is in parentheses to add another layer to the question. As I said I was unsure if you knew the mans race, which is why I asked it where way I did. I could have been much more disrespectful and ignorant in my inquiry.

Well, ok, I will give you the benefit of the doubt on this and concede my point about it being racially motivated, but I won't concede the point about him potentially becoming a threat. Because that DOES happen. It's what led to that raid. The full story was never disclosed but apparently the guy was fleeing from an undercover operation, and when he got to that house, they armed themselves and threatened the officers in pursuit, which is what led to ATF stopping by.

My dad and I were tuned into the police scanner until they switched to a different frequency when ATF showed up.

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rahasperj posted...

Not what I was saying. The pictures weren't to disprove any of that. It was simply proof of what I personally saw, and that I wasn't making assumptions based off of "tv scenarios" but what I've seen in my own life.

But you were still making assumptions. And you were basing them off of a wildly different scenario.

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TheBiggerWiggle posted...

Its sad that an entire city of cops is asked the question can you guys have more accountability and their response is to throw a fit and refuse to do their job. Maybe they never should have been cops to begin with

Worse than that.

They call in sick on mass so they still get paid.

Then say they want the city to burn and brag about ignoring calls.

All because accountability is being called for.... And people are defending them.
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rahasperj posted...

Well, ok, I will give you the benefit of the doubt on this and concede my point about it being racially motivated, but I won't concede the point about him potentially becoming a threat. Because that DOES happen. It's what led to that raid. The full story was never disclosed but apparently the guy was fleeing from an undercover operation, and when he got to that house, they armed themselves and threatened the officers in pursuit, which is what led to ATF stopping by.

My dad and I were tuned into the police scanner until they switched to a different frequency when ATF showed up.

Thats wildly different than a drunk man trying to flee.

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

But you were still making assumptions. And you were basing them off of a wildly different scenario.

Same scenario, different scale. In the case across the street, the guys fled in a car and we're pursued in cars.

And in the other, he would've fled on foot and been chased on foot.


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rahasperj posted...

Same scenario, different scale. In the case across the street, the guys fled in a car and we're pursued in cars.

And in the other, he would've fled on foot and been chased on foot.

Its not the same. The mind of drunk man fleeing and the mind of a drug dealer fleeing are drastically different.

but yeah, it wouldve been nice if they had decided to chase him instead of shooting him.

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So does anyone have any news about the Atlanta cops quitting instead of this extended shit flinging match?

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MrMallard posted...

So does anyone have any news about the Atlanta cops quitting instead of this extended shit flinging match?

It's almost 3AM on the American east coast, so it'll probably be awhile before any updates

I like how post 2 hasnt even been deleted yet when posting that should be an instant ban.

UnfairRepresent posted...

https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1272870941098418176

2 cops watch a gang harras and beat innocent man in the head.

Brag about not upholding the law.

Guy runs away from cops.

Shot twice in the back for being "A potential threat." even though cops on the scene admit he wasn't one.

And this is protecting and serving the community, this is justice?

I hope those cops got fired.

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Obviously, but to pretend like it's the only reason and all the rest of the shit played no part is foolish, which is exactly what some of these people are doing.

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indica posted...

I hope those cops got fired.

lol
They won't

Just look at how quiet all the cop defenders got
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They wont be begging for "their cops back". Hopefully competent, non-corrupt, not-literally-evil cops are hired instead. But we all know that isnt what the anti-protestors want.

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I'd say liberals dream would be a police force that is held accountable for their actions.
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Didnt the DA just say the taser was a deadly weapon in the incident with the car two weeks ago

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Mark_DeRosa posted...

Didnt the DA just say the taser was a deadly weapon in the incident with the car two weeks ago

I don't know but the DA is arguing that the cop admitted he was in no danger and the taser had already fired twice

so if The DA did say that, they are still consistent

Edit: oh wait it's you! lol

I already posted this and you ignored it, now you come back into the topic trolling
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Those people still need police service and protection. I get the idea behind this, and I get the frustration, but fuck. You took an oath. You cant dip out when it gets tough. Sack up.

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Patchwork posted...

Those people still need police service and protection. I get the idea behind this, and I get the frustration, but fuck. You took an oath. You cant dip out when it gets tough. Sack up.

Pretty much my views.

But I also hope that since all the bad and quiet cops that didn't out the bad ones are leaving, it'll let those that want better cops to apply and become those better cops.

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Mark_DeRosa posted...

Didnt the DA just say the taser was a deadly weapon in the incident with the car two weeks ago

Quoting a post I made elsewhere.

ThePieReborn posted...

There are wrinkles to this, as I found while perusing Georgia case law. "Per se deadly weapons" are those whose innate use carries with it risk of death/severe bodily harm, etc. A taser would qualify under this when used as intended. However, here's a case snippet that adds the wrinkle:

Adsitt v. State, 248 Ga. 237, 240, 282 S.E.2d 305, 308 (1981)
We hold that if it reasonably appears to the assault victim that the firearm is or might be loaded then the assailant should be held to the consequences of using a deadly weaponwhether or not the weapon in fact is loaded.

This would give the impression (although within the aggravated assault context rather than estimation of force needed by a LEO, but it's easy enough to transition since the standard wouldn't change any) depends, as I've stated previously, on what the officers knew. DA (notwithstanding accusations of political motivation and other issues) stated that the officer gave a statement indicating he knew the taser had been expended.

If that statement is true, it's easy enough to distinguish between the previous use (if I recall, that was with the driver or passenger in a vehicle was hit with the taser? My memory isn't good at this point in time.) and the current use if the officer knew the taser could not be used as designed. Use as a bludgeon requires similar analysis in that it would be based on reasonable beliefs re: what Brooks could do with it.

As to whether this would impact whether the action would survive muster under Garner and Graham, I do not know. I'm not inclined to treat it as though a dismissal or directed verdict would be guaranteed. If the shooting occurred strictly in a vacuum, I'd give the defense 35%~ on dismissal and a 65%~ chance of successful directed verdict (numbers pulled out of my ass and mean nothing other than sleep-deprived me's gut instinct, and I'm known to undershoot strength of arguments).

The post-shooting actions I'm even more unsure

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VVALLBOUNCE posted...

I like how post 2 hasnt even been deleted yet when posting that should be an instant ban.

They won't.

They only ban people when they shit talk about China, not some poor state in the US.

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Crooked Cop dad: They killed that dude because they were mad they couldn't catch him

It's obvious. The police and proponents ITT are full aware of their bad faith

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Rika_Furude posted...

They wont be begging for "their cops back". Hopefully competent, non-corrupt, not-literally-evil cops are hired instead. But we all know that isnt what the anti-protestors want.

do you have any source showing the cops who are quitting were ever acussed of police brutality ? or anything else at all ?

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TheVipaGTS posted...

So, they're proving why people are protesting and why there is a problem with cops? because simply being asked to not murder people causes them to pout and say "i'm taking my ball and going home!"...let 'em leave. Spineless bitches.

Hey go sign up for the Atlanta police force then
Make a difference.


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yemmy posted...

Hey go sign up for the Atlanta police force then
Make a difference.

why do you think this is a good response?

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i think there is some bad argumentation going on itt

we have two starting assumptions

1. It was a legitimate use of force
2. It was murder

If we want to discuss the cops walking out, you can say "Oh well they want to defend a murderer and walk out? Fuck them." Which, if 2 is your starting assumption, makes perfect sense.

You can also say "Oh well it was a legitimate use of force and they are charging him with murder which is out of control by the DA and the cops SHOULD walk out if that is what they'll deal with in defending themselves." Which, if 1 is your starting assumption, makes perfect sense.

So you guys are literally going to be talking past each other in an extremely non-productive conversation about this. Why not log off gamefaqs and go outside to enjoy the fresh air? Go hang out with some family and deplug? Then come back and have an actual discussion.

Liberal here. Definitely do not nor have I ever dreamed of eliminating the police. TC, if you're going to judge all Liberals by the actions of a few fringe members I hope you also judge Conservatives accordingly. You should never ever ever get mad when people accuse Conservatives of being racist, or being in the KKK or anything like that since you're OK with judging groups by their fringe.

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Malcrasternus posted...

Pretty much my views.

But I also hope that since all the bad and quiet cops that didn't out the bad ones are leaving, it'll let those that want better cops to apply and become those better cops.

no level-headed person is going to want to be a cop after this lol

ThisGuyAreSick posted...

If cops are going to quit because a cop who murdered somebody is being prosecuted for murdering somebody, then they weren't good cops to begin with. So good riddance.

I think you meant to say a cop who has been wrongfully charged after justifiably shooting a scumbag who stole and pointed a weapon at them. Which makes them very good cops.


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Alexhander posted...

why do you think this is a good response?

Because I'm 99.99% sure this dude would piss his pants during his first shift of being an Atlanta police officer but yet he's calling them spineless.

Also the fact that he obviously thinks he can do their jobs better than they can.

Also the fact that I doubt he has a real job at all.

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yemmy posted...

Because I'm 99.99% sure this dude would piss his pants during his first shift of being an Atlanta police officer but yet he's calling them spineless.

Also the fact that he obviously thinks he can do their jobs better than they can.

Also the fact that I doubt he has a real job at all.

this doesn't really follow what i asked

So he calls police cowards, you respond "you be a cop then"

I don't even think that qualifies as a response. like it's got nothin to do with nothin

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Alexhander posted...

this doesn't really follow what i asked

So he calls police cowards, you respond "you be a cop then"

I don't even think that qualifies as a response. like it's got nothin to do with nothin

Ok we're done then. Thanks for your input. I will take it into consideration.

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VigorouslySwish posted...

no level-headed person is going to want to be a cop after this lol

Then who is going to fill in the gaps?

The same people. The system never changes unless those that want change become part of the system.

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