Poll of the Day > If Joel was GAY instead of Ellie, Do you think all HELL would break loose???

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mrduckbear
06/12/20 11:28:47 PM
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Do you think all hell will break loose in the gaming world if Joel was gay instead of Ellie?



You would think the gaming conservatives would be less offended if ellie was a lesbian but the god in them still went berserk and calling for the game's SJW slant....

I wonder how much outcry would have been had it turned out Joel turned out to be Gay if not Ellie...

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Smarkil
06/13/20 12:26:35 AM
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you know he had a child right?

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LinkPizza
06/13/20 12:30:12 AM
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Smarkil posted...
you know he had a child right?

Why does that matter?
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helIy
06/13/20 12:35:20 AM
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yeah what does that matter

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darcandkharg31
06/13/20 12:46:08 AM
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Smarkil posted...
you know he had a child right?
Gay people can have kids too ya know!

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aHappySacka
06/13/20 12:47:16 AM
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If he was gay then he wouldn't have bonded with Ellie.

this is a sarcastic post btw

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Kyuubi4269
06/13/20 12:48:17 AM
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Considering how Joel is effectively a defined character from the start, it would come across a lot more forced.
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Smarkil
06/13/20 1:03:27 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Why does that matter?

and a wife

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The_tall_midget
06/13/20 1:17:29 AM
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Very little people gave a shit that Ellie was described as gay. The problem are when people starts breaking their own lore and stories to pander to the oversensitive, idiotic sjw's. And if you can't see why the Last of us 2 is nothing but sjw pandering, I don't know what to tell you.

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HornedLion
06/13/20 1:20:53 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Why does that matter?

This.

I work with a dude with like 3 kids and then he came out. And hes on fire.

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ChaosAzeroth
06/13/20 1:31:28 AM
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Smarkil posted...
you know he had a child right?

Smarkil posted...
and a wife

Okay but how about just not straight then?
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Revelation34
06/13/20 1:57:34 AM
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HornedLion posted...


This.

I work with a dude with like 3 kids and then he came out. And hes on fire.


Sounds like you don't know him anymore.
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LinkPizza
06/13/20 2:47:03 AM
#13:


Smarkil posted...
and a wife

Again... Why does that matter?

HornedLion posted...
This.

I work with a dude with like 3 kids and then he came out. And hes on fire.

My SO had two wives, and a kid with each one. He's gay. A friend of mine's dad had 5 kids with his wife before he came out...

ChaosAzeroth posted...
Okay but how about just not straight then?

Also, this... Even if he wasn't gay, bi is an option, as well... Or just not straight in some way...
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JixHedgehog
06/13/20 3:10:43 AM
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Other - who dat?

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LinkPizza
06/13/20 4:13:04 AM
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JixHedgehog posted...
Other - who dat?

I believe this is a reference to "The Last of Us 2"...
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DocDelicious
06/13/20 4:39:06 AM
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No, Joel is a well fleshed-out character. Ellie is teen angst embodied, her being gay comes off as very disingenuous.

I take it about as seriously as any 13 y/o girl that says she's bisexual.

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LeetCheet
06/13/20 4:57:36 AM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Very little people gave a shit that Ellie was described as gay. The problem are when people starts breaking their own lore and stories to pander to the oversensitive, idiotic sjw's. And if you can't see why the Last of us 2 is nothing but sjw pandering, I don't know what to tell you.


This.
I don't care about a character's sexuality.

But if their sexuality is the only defining character trait they have then it's not a good character IMO.

I like my characters to have more depth to them.
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mooreandrew58
06/13/20 8:10:04 AM
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In my expierence lesbains catch a lot less flak than gay men.

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PMarth2002
06/13/20 8:44:30 AM
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TIL conservatives whining about LGBT representation = all hell breaking loose.

Anyway, my response is "what outcry?"

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LinkPizza
06/13/20 1:17:46 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
In my expierence lesbains catch a lot less flak than gay men.

From what I've seen, this is true...
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ChaosAzeroth
06/13/20 1:56:26 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
From what I've seen, this is true...

Yeah unfortunately there were people in my high school who would trash talk gay men but in the same sentence say lesbians were okay.

Not all of them were dudes either, it was probably around 50/50 even...
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captpackrat
06/13/20 3:32:39 PM
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I'm parsing this like "Joel was Ellie, would all hell break out if he was Gay instead."

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LinkPizza
06/13/20 3:43:36 PM
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captpackrat posted...
I'm parsing this like "Joel was Ellie, would all hell break out if he was Gay instead."

Like if Ellie was the straight adult and Joel was a gay teenager?
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The_tall_midget
06/13/20 4:23:44 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
From what I've seen, this is true...

You'll see those idiotic feminist biases everywhere. You constantly hear support of transitioning young boys into being more feminine and transitioning to being girls. Tell me, how often do you hear about the reverse?

But I'll try not to speak the truth too much, the simps and sjw's don't like it.

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LinkPizza
06/13/20 4:32:43 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
You'll see those idiotic feminist biases everywhere. You constantly hear support of transitioning young boys into being more feminine and transitioning to being girls. Tell me, how often do you hear about the reverse?

But I'll try not to speak the truth too much, the simps and sjw's don't like it.

If youre talkIng about double standards, theyve always been around. And they probably arent going away anytime soon. Some people are just stuck on their ways. Either way, they still suck...
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_AdjI_
06/13/20 8:06:07 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
You'll see those idiotic feminist biases everywhere.

It's not really a feminist bias so much as it is "dude lesbians are hot." The relative availability and demand for a given variety of porn does a lot to influence how socially acceptable things are.
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Revelation34
06/13/20 8:13:52 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...


It's not really a feminist bias so much as it is "dude lesbians are hot." The relative availability and demand for a given variety of porn does a lot to influence how socially acceptable things are.


So rape and incest is socially acceptable?
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_AdjI_
06/13/20 8:15:29 PM
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You think that rape and incest porn are as in-demand and available as lesbian?
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Kyuubi4269
06/13/20 8:17:08 PM
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Revelation34 posted...


So rape and incest is socially acceptable?

It's certainly a more commonly expressed kink now. Note that harm to unwilling participants and inbred babies have no demand.
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ChaosAzeroth
06/13/20 8:18:00 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
So rape and incest is socially acceptable?

They said influences, not dictates.

There are some things that will never be normalized, like those. Common sense say that those have definite issues that affect other people. Although I've actually seen some people say they couldn't give a crap less about incest as long as they're not having kids.
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_AdjI_
06/13/20 8:30:55 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's certainly a more commonly expressed kink now. Note that harm to unwilling participants and inbred babies have no demand.

That too. Implicit in that statement was the condition of "all other things being equal," and all other things certainly are not equal when people are harmed.
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Revelation34
06/13/20 8:36:20 PM
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ChaosAzeroth posted...


They said influences, not dictates.

There are some things that will never be normalized, like those. Common sense say that those have definite issues that affect other people. Although I've actually seen some people say they couldn't give a crap less about incest as long as they're not having kids.


I think that's a common viewpoint.
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_AdjI_
06/13/20 8:38:38 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
I think that's a common viewpoint.

It's becoming more common, but there's still a lot of categorical objection to incest even when it's consenting adults doing it and not reproducing.
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wwinterj25
06/13/20 8:42:46 PM
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Ellie has been lesbian since Left Behind if I'm not mistaken. This topic and so called outrage is very late. Still if Joel was homosexual you would probably get the same amount of "backlash" from cry babies on GameFAQs or the internet in general when folk in real life don't actually care about a video game characters sexuality as it's hardly relevant to the story if at all.

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LinkPizza
06/13/20 9:22:15 PM
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I dont care about incest with like cousins or whatever, even if they are having kids. Siblings and parents probably shouldnt have kids, though. Thats too close, I believe...
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Revelation34
06/16/20 6:48:20 PM
#36:


LinkPizza posted...
I dont care about incest with like cousins or whatever, even if they are having kids. Siblings and parents probably shouldnt have kids, though. Thats too close, I believe...


Cousin is common in some places in the world anyway.
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LinkPizza
06/16/20 7:00:06 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Cousin is common in some places in the world anyway.

Yep!
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Metalsonic66
06/16/20 7:43:50 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Very little people gave a shit that Ellie was described as gay. The problem are when people starts breaking their own lore and stories to pander to the oversensitive, idiotic sjw's. And if you can't see why the Last of us 2 is nothing but sjw pandering, I don't know what to tell you.
Sure bro, keep telling yourself that

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DDirtyDastard
06/16/20 8:03:49 PM
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Never played the games, never will. I saw the preview for this game and knew it was a flaming pile of shit from the trailer.
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zebatov
06/16/20 8:09:40 PM
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I dont care about gayness, but I do care about pandering. If this was done in the 90s or early 00s, it might have been seen as edgy. A little more than ten years ago it would have just been a thing, but now it feels forced like an agenda. They missed the sweet spot.

LinkPizza posted...
Yep!

Why its legal to marry your cousin in certain places. They sometimes dont have a choice.

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