Poll of the Day > Coronavirus seems like it's over.

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Only a couple hundred new cases each week in every state and most things are open again. I think it's safe to move onto normal life.

depends on the state. New York and New Jersey are just starting to be under control. California is just taking off.

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Unfortunately the damage has been done. Some businesses have closed down, jobs have been lost, various summer programs have been cancelled, certain safety regulations and fear may still linger for a while, etc. I would imagine "normal" life henceforth will still not be how it was pre-COVID-19.

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Sahuagin posted...

depends on the state. New York and New Jersey are just starting to be under control. California is just taking off.

California has a shockingly low death percentage for having twice as many cases as most places.

Another interesting development that hasnt really been covered is the WHO now saying asymptomatic individuals arent very contagious at all which is a complete turnaround from what they said originally.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says/ar-BB15cA5J
Will be interesting to see if there are big spikes from all the protesters becoming infected but so far that doesnt seem to be the case nearly two weeks in. Still a smart idea to continue to play it safe but I do believe things should open up and people given the choice if they want to go out or not.

TC youre barely even trying anymore cmon dude

take your art seriously or dont bother

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I want to go bowling!

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Mead posted...

TC youre barely even trying anymore cmon dude

take your art seriously or dont bother

but I'm not trolling.

Not really. Second wave incoming and youre arrogant if you think otherwise. People arent going to listen or stay inside so it could be worse.

THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

but I'm not trolling.

who said you were

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Time to pass the whiskey around in celebration, straight from the bottle!

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InfestedAdam posted...

Unfortunately the damage has been done. Some businesses have closed down, jobs have been lost, various summer programs have been cancelled, certain safety regulations and fear may still linger for a while, etc. I would imagine "normal" life henceforth will still not be how it was pre-COVID-19.

Yeah, the government reaction to COVID has massively damaged the country and it might be years before things get back on track.


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It didn't really go away, it's more like people stopped caring about it.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

Only a couple hundred new cases each week in every state and most things are open again. I think it's safe to move onto normal life.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

That's not just a lie, it's an easily disproved lie.

Today only so far:

Florida +1096
California +992Texas +971
Illinois +797
Georgia +752
North Carolina +699
Tennessee +631
Arizona +618
New York +607
Louisiana +562
Pennsylvania +517
Maryland +500
Alabama +497
Virginia +487
South Carolina +428
Indiana +410
Akransas +340
Ohio +327
Minnesota +299
Michigan +297
Wisconsin +270
Massachusetts +263
Nevada +244
New Jersey +241
Utah +237
Kentuckuy +232
Iowa +227
Missouri +227
Oklahoma +158

Then the rest are under a hundred, but again, this is just for TODAY SO FAR.

Over 15,000 new cases TODAY.

We're going to break a k deaths again today as well, we're already almost there.

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WastelandCowboy posted...

Not really. Second wave incoming and youre arrogant if you think otherwise. People arent going to listen or stay inside so it could be worse.

it's looking like maybe there won't be a second wave (very hopefully). european countries have gotten under control, and are staying under control, even after more or less resuming normalcy. (probably people are smart enough not to go back to germ-spreading behaviour and are still taking anti-viral measures, regardless of regulations.)

(as an aside, I wonder what affect this will all have on 'normal' viruses. theoretically there should be a huge decline in cases of colds and flu.)

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New Zealand hasn't had any confirmed cases in a while.

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Webbernet posted...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

That's not just a lie, it's an easily disproved lie.

Today only so far:

Florida +1096
California +992Texas +971
Illinois +797
Georgia +752
North Carolina +699
Tennessee +631
Arizona +618
New York +607
Louisiana +562
Pennsylvania +517
Maryland +500
Alabama +497
Virginia +487
South Carolina +428
Indiana +410
Akransas +340
Ohio +327
Minnesota +299
Michigan +297
Wisconsin +270
Massachusetts +263
Nevada +244
New Jersey +241
Utah +237
Kentuckuy +232
Iowa +227
Missouri +227
Oklahoma +158

Then the rest are under a hundred, but again, this is just for TODAY SO FAR.

Over 15,000 new cases TODAY.

We're going to break a k deaths again today as well, we're already almost there.

Fake news. Those are weekly totals. Michigan only had 200 this WEEK.

Webbernet posted...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

That's not just a lie, it's an easily disproved lie.

Today only so far:

Florida +1096
California +992Texas +971
Illinois +797
Georgia +752
North Carolina +699
Tennessee +631
Arizona +618
New York +607
Louisiana +562
Pennsylvania +517
Maryland +500
Alabama +497
Virginia +487
South Carolina +428
Indiana +410
Akransas +340
Ohio +327
Minnesota +299
Michigan +297
Wisconsin +270
Massachusetts +263
Nevada +244
New Jersey +241
Utah +237
Kentuckuy +232
Iowa +227
Missouri +227
Oklahoma +158

Then the rest are under a hundred, but again, this is just for TODAY SO FAR.

Over 15,000 new cases TODAY.

We're going to break a k deaths again today as well, we're already almost there.

Shhhh. Nobody likes having their world views contradicted by facts.

Sahuagin posted...

(as an aside, I wonder what affect this will all have on 'normal' viruses. theoretically there should be a huge decline in cases of colds and flu.)

In theory, but a lot of that will depend on whether or not people continue being good about hygiene when flu season rolls around. That's still several months away, and I can guarantee that a whole lot of people are going to get sick of obsessive hand-washing between now and then.

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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

Fake news. Those are weekly totals. Michigan only had 200 this WEEK.

Michigan seems to have had an issue with their reporting in the past few days. their numbers (# of new cases) are something like:

June 2: 199
June 3: 304
June 4: 206
June 5: 284
June 6: 0
June 7: 5,900

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minnesota loosend restrictions and also had a protest 2 weeks ago. we havent seen a surge in numbers by now so im assuming we are in a really good situation.

maybe china was never lying about their numbers

adjl posted...

I can guarantee that a whole lot of people are going to get sick of obsessive hand-washing between now and then.

I dunno, it sort of becomes habit. just to get a coffee at work, I have to wipe everything down with clorox both before and after I use the machine, which was annoying at first, but just my new normal now.

adjl posted...

In theory, but a lot of that will depend on whether or not people continue being good about hygiene when flu season rolls around.

I guess it depends where those kinds of viruses "go" when they're not actively widespread. I'm not sure how that works. where is the flu right now and what is it doing?

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adjl posted...

I can guarantee that a whole lot of people are going to get sick of obsessive hand-washing between now and then.

Funny you mention that. Management at my company was wondering why all of a sudden we started going through paper towels faster. They jokingly suggested maybe more people in the office were actually washing their hands for once after using the restroom.

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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

Fake news. Those are weekly totals. Michigan only had 200 this WEEK.

I believe his link that cites its sources over you going "nuh uh!"
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GanonsSpirit posted...

I believe his link that cites its sources over you going "nuh uh!"

Same. Sources have more credibility than an inconvenienced person saying "FAKE NEWS!"

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https://youtu.be/J9gKyRmic20?t=45

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Sahuagin posted...

adjl posted...
In theory, but a lot of that will depend on whether or not people continue being good about hygiene when flu season rolls around.
I guess it depends where those kinds of viruses "go" when they're not actively widespread. I'm not sure how that works. where is the flu right now and what is it doing?

reading about it, as I was thinking the flu at any time is only alive in a subset of the human population. when it's not "flu season", there are still a handful of people out there that have the flu and are spreading it, it's just that most people are resistant or immune to that version of the flu, and it needs to evolve a bit or our behaviours need to worsen a bit for it to gain some traction again and cause a new outbreak.

*but*, theoretically, if human behaviour changed enough in the right ways in the right places, maybe it could lose its grip and have such a reduced ability to spread that it actually ends up eradicated.

it "should" be possible, though I don't exactly expect it to happen, but it would definitely be a nice side effect of this whole crappy situation.

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If its true this virus has ADE(Antibody Dependent Enhancement, which means it uses your antibodies as another way into your cells) or that's its anything like HIV that it can both destroy your immune system and the fact that it can hide and stay dormant somewhere in your body then the second wave is going to be really bad.

I really hope what I've read is not true.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

Fake news. Those are weekly totals. Michigan only had 200 this WEEK.

Theyre not? The website clearly says its from a single day. Do the minimum amount of research, wow.

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This past week has been the worst week so far here in Arizona. It is far from over.

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It is spiking back up, as we've been saying it would this whole time.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

Fake news. Those are weekly totals. Michigan only had 200 this WEEK.

Christ I cannot wait for this virus to ravage the country so people are even angrier at you Republicans.

You'll just blame the riots, of course, which is unfortunate because cases were going to go up anyway.

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Yeah. Like I definitely expect another spike in a week due to the protests, but this spike is definitely due to memorial day weekend reopenings.

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The daily new case numbers we are seeing now are about the same as they were at the height of it back in April and beginning of May. Those numbers were with everything shut down. Now that everything is opening back up, it is unsurprising to see them go back up but I dont feel like weve seen a true spike yet as in the daily new case numbers being exponentially higher than what they were when everything was shut down. The protests have been going for nearly two weeks now, but the numbers will be interesting to watch still to see if we see big jumps nationally or locally. My guess is the daily new case numbers are going to stay about where they are now for quite some time but that is the whole process of flattening the curve.

Spouse is getting tested at work around the end of the month.

If tests weren't at a premium I'd say I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

GameLord113 posted...

The daily new case numbers we are seeing now are about the same as they were at the height of it back in April and beginning of May.

wish that was even true here :(



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madadude posted...

wish that was even true here :(

its odd arizona never spiked until now.

teddy241 posted...

its odd arizona never spiked until now.

Nationwide infection control measures came into effect before it had a chance to get bad, which helped to keep its curve nice and flat. As those measures are lifted/increasingly ignored, though, you've got a nice, big population that's had no exposure to the virus and therefore no immunity and a virus that's quite happy to take advantage of its newfound freedom.

That, or it's been this bad all along and there's just been an increase in testing as tests become more available to states that aren't obviously in bad shape. I'd be more willing to guess the former, though.

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The current model actually suggests the rate of infection to rise at the end of summer:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Which is going to be awful. Current projects are for me to back to the office the end of summer.


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Judgmenl posted...

Which is going to be awful. Current projects are for me to back to the office the end of summer.

They said theyre not expecting us to go back to the office until September 30th. But I dont want to go back.

The other day I took a shower on one of my breaks! Im saving money on:

-mousse
-gel
-gas
-haircuts
-eating out for lunch
-vending machine cravings
-Starbucks(I get it if its a rough day)
-treating coworkers to food
-taking care of my work wife

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HornedLion posted...

-taking care of my work wife

Yikes.

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My work here in Arizona was planning on going back next week. Now that cases have more than doubled in the past week, they have delayed going back... To june 22nd.

It's so crazy, why would we have been working at home for almost 3 months when new daily cases never reached above 400 or so, and then plan on going back when new daily cases are over 1,200?

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At my work we've been coming in this whole time. At most there's 2 people in a single office (maybe 10 x 8 large) and we have to wipe everything down before we start the day like keyboards / mouses / coffee machine / chairs and etc. My supervisor had been working from home for 11 weeks and was just cleared to come back this past Tuesday.

I still think the worst is coming, but then again I always think the worst is coming so who knows?

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It's over? I don't even recall it starting. Just a bunch of freak out.

We only had about 40 confirmed cases total in our city of 300k. Hospitals weren't even close to capacity. So I feel like it was success but we maybe overreacted. Worried about low immunity for our population level which could make a second impact.

Covid is going to be a multiple season arc, maybe even the final Big Bad.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

It's over? I don't even recall it starting. Just a bunch of freak out.

Better overly carefully than overly careless.

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madadude posted...

It's so crazy, why would we have been working at home for almost 3 months when new daily cases never reached above 400 or so, and then plan on going back when new daily cases are over 1,200?

Because the decision to reopen stuff is based on public/political pressure and economic concerns, not medical advice. Medically, it's not a very good idea in a lot of places.

BlackScythe0 posted...

It's over? I don't even recall it starting. Just a bunch of freak out.

I mean, 116,000 Americans are dead because of it, even with everything that was done to contain it. That sounds like a pretty solid start to me.

acesxhigh posted...

We only had about 40 confirmed cases total in our city of 300k. Hospitals weren't even close to capacity.

In this sort of situation, provided interstate/inter-county travel is appropriately restricted, it's pretty easy to defend the decision to reopen. There are definitely areas where the virus never really got off the ground and has been pretty much eradicated, and there's no reason not to relax local restrictions once that point has been reached. Travel restrictions, however, are still very much a good idea until other areas have reached a similar point.

acesxhigh posted...

So I feel like it was success but we maybe overreacted.

That's basically the ideal. There have been many epidemiologists saying things like "if we get this right, everyone will feel that we overreacted" since the response to the virus started. The only way anyone will feel like the reaction wasn't more than was necessary would be if a whole lot of people ended up dying, by which point it would have been far too late to fix the problem. Odds are, it was more of a response than was truly necessary, but it's better to err on the side of caution with something like this. Economies are significantly easier to resurrect than humans, after all.

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