Current Events > So how should people respond to decades of unchecked police brutality?

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A strongly worded letter to their congressman?
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Ya

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Looting stores is the answer for sure.

By quietly protesting in the designated free speech zone.

Yes

i would start by not totally destroying entire communities and ruining peoples lives and businesses, including widespread vandalism and looting.

Irony posted...

Ya

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Obviously they shouldn't. They should just be white and middle class or higher, why is that so hard?

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They should respond hard. Harder than they are now.

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ChadMansplainer posted...

Yes

i would start by not totally destroying entire communities and ruining peoples lives and businesses, including widespread vandalism and looting.

But that's how you win the adoration of the public

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They should do what Martin and Malcolm did and protest peacefully. That seemed to work out for them.

Whatever happened to those guys anyway?

Use a measured response that correlates to the threat to the average person. Insane reaction to proportionally low events does not help solve those events. It's no different than the ban all guns crowd whenever there is a shooting. Overreacting makes the problem seem exaggerated and takes away from the cause.

Lawyers need to spend 7 years to learn the law, why should cops only spend 8 weeks?


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Just be patient and allow due process
Doesnt matter that time and time again due process has been proven to fail because police are above the law
No justice is preferable to mob justice

/s

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I would get modded if I said what I really believe

So I'll go ahead and say call their congressmen.

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Rat them out to their moms

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Its really interesting to me that the crowd that tends to be the "I NEED MUH GUNS TO FIGHT BACK" crowd is against any protest against police brutality getting violent. their argument is "that's a good way of making no one care about your protest..."....but waving a gun at them and threatening to shoot them is a good way? I don't agree with the senseless destruction either, but the disconnect seems kinda lost on them.

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Become cops themselves and change it from the inside?

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

They should respond hard. Harder than they are now.

This obviously. Fucking over other innocent people and businesses is a sure proven method of garnering support. That will really get others to side with them.

protest the police and not just destroy businesses and buildings that are completely unrelated for one

ChadMansplainer posted...

and ruining peoples lives

I feel for the people that work at those targets and all those other places that arent standing or operating right now. These people are of jobs now for the foreseeable future if they ever even get them back. This pandemic probably cost a lot of them a lot of hours and money and now being out of work. Its sad.

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Destroy the police stations and state buildings, not the whole neighborhood. Be controlled and direct.

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Should continue to just get murdered on the streets with no repercussions obviously. With a smile on their face too.

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EffectAndCause posted...

A strongly worded letter to their congressman?

Amy Klobuchar represents Minnesota in the U.S. Senate. (As does Tina Smith)
The Minnesotian delegation to the House are mostly Democrats. Two Republicans gained their seats in 2018 and 2019. The other in 2015.

So there's your answer. If you want change, Vote Republican

There isn't really a good response as the police are working as intended.

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HiddenRoar posted...

Amy Klobuchar represents Minnesota in the U.S. Senate. (As does Tina Smith)
The Minnesotian delegation to the House are mostly Democrats. Two Republicans gained their seats in 2018 and 2019. The other in 2015.

So there's your answer. If you want change, Vote Republican

How do you reconcile this with the Republican president's long and very public opposition to protests against police brutality? Or his love for cop unions?
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HiddenRoar posted...

So there's your answer. If you want change, Vote Republican

Cause they helped in Georgia.

Oh wait.

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DarthAragorn posted...

protest the police and not just destroy businesses and buildings that are completely unrelated for one

There is a huge problem therein, though. We have been protesting. People have for decades. Nothing changes. Politicians aren't helping, the police force themselves aren't helping. When people like Kaepernick stage a peaceful protest people blackballed him and turned it into something it wasn't just to deflect away from it. When people shouted black lives matter they were counter protested with "ALL LIVES MATTER", a group who didn't even care about lives and didn't contribute to the protest against corruption. They just existed to fight those actually trying to stop the corruption because "omg why only black lives!". Meanwhile, BLM protesters fought for all. They spoke out against cases of all races being mistreated by the police...Yet they were still protested against for some reason.

By refusing to even hear the out and acknowledge that a problem does exist you'e pretty much asking the protesters to ramp up their efforts to get noticed. They're tired of being ignored or having their message twisted and pervaded by counter protesters who bring up the Troops like it at all relates to their protest and are only there to try and shut them up.

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NathanX95 posted...

This obviously. Fucking over other innocent people and businesses is a sure proven method of garnering support. That will really get others to side with them.

If anyone thinks police brutality isn't a big issue just because their business got burned down, that person's a piece of shit.

ThanksUglyGod posted...

If anyone thinks police brutality isn't a big issue just because their business got burned down, that person's a piece of shit.

I know I for one would not give a shit about anything going on in the wider world other than maybe fucking world war 3 if my fucking house or business burned to the ground.

VipaGTS posted...

Its really interesting to me that the crowd that tends to be the "I NEED MUH GUNS TO FIGHT BACK" crowd is against any protest against police brutality getting violent. their argument is "that's a good way of making no one care about your protest..."....but waving a gun at them and threatening to shoot them is a good way? I don't agree with the senseless destruction either, but the disconnect seems kinda lost on them.

Well I haven't really asked them but I kind of expect they would be waving their guns at politicians instead of some random Autozone franchise owner.

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BigG777 posted...

Become cops themselves and change it from the inside?

And maybe end up like Frank Serpico.


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If these people did any sort of peaceful protest that was actually noticeable/impactful then the same guys on CE complaining about riots would complain about them blocking traffic etc etc

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Unchecked police brutality? I'm assuming you're referring to the recent Minneapolis case.

I don't think police being fired and multiple investigations being launched including the FBI is considered "unchecked"

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DevsBro posted...

Well I haven't really asked them but I kind of expect they would be waving their guns at politicians instead of some random Autozone franchise owner.

who is waving guns at autozone owners?

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nemu posted...

I know I for one would not give a shit about anything going on in the wider world other than maybe fucking world war 3 if my fucking house or business burned to the ground.

You can rebuild a house and business tho

Houston posted...

Unchecked police brutality? I'm assuming you're referring to the recent Minneapolis case.

No he's referring to decades of it throughout America

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VipaGTS posted...

Its really interesting to me that the crowd that tends to be the "I NEED MUH GUNS TO FIGHT BACK" crowd is against any protest against police brutality getting violent. their argument is "that's a good way of making no one care about your protest..."....but waving a gun at them and threatening to shoot them is a good way? I don't agree with the senseless destruction either, but the disconnect seems kinda lost on them.

They wont listen as they are cowards

or racist

more both

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Houston posted...

Unchecked police brutality? I'm assuming you're referring to the recent Minneapolis case.

I don't think police being fired and multiple investigations being launched including the FBI is considered "unchecked"

it is considering no charges have even been filed, its unlikely charges are filed and the second they are the police are gonna fight the DA for it the whole time. Even then hes likely to get off


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ThanksUglyGod posted...

You can rebuild a house and business tho

Yeah, like that really fucking matters to the person who lost their house or business. Social issues pale in comparison to personal issues with the exception of the most dire of circumstances. That's also assuming the person isn't financially ruined. Then they might just kill themselves. There is zero justification in ruining someone's life while protesting the loss of another.

Mareen posted...

Destroy the police stations

*rioters attack police station*

Police:

https://youtu.be/3ovhzszEz-w
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EffectAndCause posted...

*rioters attack police station*

Police:

https://youtu.be/3ovhzszEz-w

Makes sense. They got every PoC first and left the white guy

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nemu posted...

Yeah, like that really fucking matters to the person who lost their house or business. Social issues pale in comparison to personal issues with the exception of the most dire of circumstances. That's also assuming the person isn't financially ruined. Then they might just kill themselves. There is zero justification in ruining someone's life while protesting the loss of another.

Iunno, terrible things happen to people all the time. That doesn't mean they can just throw away their moral compass. If they want to get angry, get angry at the protesters. Don't disavow the entire movement.

Riots are the language of the unheard

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When a government entity does something extremely corrupt or unjust, I have no issue with people using force directed at that particular government entity. I have problem with force being used against innocent, uninvolved parties.

The sort of "the police murdered a man, therefore you better not say anything about the randon businesses getting torched or you're a racist" are complete bullshit. I have no issue with the protesters who vandalized only the police cruisers.


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Antifar posted...

How do you reconcile this with the Republican president's long and very public opposition to protests against police brutality? Or his love for cop unions?

I don't actually care about Minnesota much. The "vote Republican" was a gag reply to point out there is no solution.

Writing them a letter is less effective than voting for people who will actually change how stuff operates, but good luck getting an independent to fight against the established Democrat org. in Minnesota since the politicians have been voted in for ages and not much has changed.

VipaGTS posted...

There is a huge problem therein, though. We have been protesting. People have for decades. Nothing changes. Politicians aren't helping, the police force themselves aren't helping.

What makes you think stealing televisions is going to help anything? - other than, you know, getting a free television

A jury and mandatory cameras. 3 cameras per officer. Unpaid administrative leave. Consequences for all cops involved and those who refuse to speak up against their coworkers.