Poll of the Day > Do any of you think covid 19 was created in a lab?

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seems a lot of people think it was, personally i do not. But i know there are a lot of coronavirus "truthers" out there.

Who knows, or cares? It's here, and it's much too profitable for the media and politicians to let it go.

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It has already been determined that it wasn't created in a lab. These "truthers" believe whatever the hell they want to believe, facts and evidence be damned.

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Something about this whole thing is definitely made up.

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it isn't deadly enough to be a lab virus
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Remember those Umbrella Corporation pictures?

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The timing was definitely extremely convenient for their government in a lot of ways. Also weird for their government to push a conspiracy about the army bringing it to china after independent researchers have supposedly determined it wasn't synthesized

Krazy_Kirby posted...

it isn't deadly enough to be a lab virus

Theoretically it's actually perfect. Not deadly enough to where he could get out of control but enough to cause economic chaos

people literally researched this from around the world and said no

I know the world seems to have gone bat-shit insane, but no. It wasn't created in a lab, though it's possible a lab had discovered and researched it before the confirmed cases began to spread. Like, people had it already, but the lab thought they had it contained when they found the thing.

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I doubt it was manufactured in a lab for some sort of diabolical biowarfare, but it is entirely possible that SARS testing was being done in China and they had some kind of breakout. We really just can't know the circumstances cause China is lying through their teeth about a lot of the stuff relating to COVID-19.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

it isn't deadly enough to be a lab virus

This is true.

Plus I'd like to think if anything like this were ever purposely made they would've made a vaccine to go along with it. Y'know, for reasons just like the one we're having now.

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There are some crazy theories out there, but i'm not going down any rabbit holes right now.

The sad thing is this was predicted awhile ago by some people I know...literally because of election issues (totally NOT going into that). It's just crazy they said something like this would happen, and then it did.

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It was created in bat soup.

Could it have escaped a lab? Possibly. Though I have my doubts. Was it made in a lab? No I don't think so, I'm pretty positive it's natural.

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On one hand, a lab made virus should be much worse, on the other china is pretty incompetent so it could just be a shitty virus that got out due to said incompetence

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How exactly can they determine it wasn't made in a lab? Is it really impossible to remove traces of synthesis in future generations of a virus? If it was made in a lab, I doubt they released it intentionally since it hasn't really helped any country. Is kinda scary to think that something like this could be made in a lab.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

How exactly can they determine it wasn't made in a lab? Is it really impossible to remove traces of synthesis in future generations of a virus? If it was made in a lab, I doubt they released it intentionally since it hasn't really helped any country. Is kinda scary to think that something like this could be made in a lab.

The stuff bio-weapons labs used to work on was way scarier than this. Starting from things like smallpox, Ebola and Anthrax.

Theres a high chance this ends up with a much higher deathtoll than those things have. While this virus isn't that deadly, it spreads so incredibly effectively and has a long incubation period. Both probably the most concerning factors about a disease and things you would want to try maximizing first if you were trying to make a super virus. I'd say this is MUCH scarier than most of those things in terms of what could come of it.

It's actually likely that a disease with a 100% fatality rate and the exact same spreading and incubation time would end up causing WAY fewer deaths.


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There are a few things different about this virus, that are still being tested.

The first is the fact that at least it appears like people can get this virus twice, within a short time period.

This is usually not the case, and at first the general response was no, once you are cleared you are immune.

They are not sure if the cases they have were just false positives the first time, or if people are actually re-contracting the virus.

This is a big deal because it is so contagious that if people can get the virus more than once, it cause it to become a perpetual problem in the future (quarantine would no longer be any kind of solution in fact).

Numbers often seem to vary by location as well. Drastically in some situations.

Take Italy vs Germany. When this all started they were opposites with Italy being the western country that took the most stringent and severe precautions, and Germany literally still having large sporting events and basically ignoring it.

Italy has had 107k cases but 13,155 deaths.

Germany has had 77k cases and 900 deaths.

Yet Italy took way more precautions. There is no logical explanation for this at all.

Germany is almost at a 1% death rate, and Italy is at over a 10% death rate.

There are other things that don't make sense as well. The virus seems to spread even in situations of extreme lockdown (again Italy is a good example here), where people are social distancing. It has been known for awhile now that 6 feet was not enough to prevent the spread, but even 21 feet (I believe is the new recomendation) does not seem to actually be a safe distance.

The extreme difference from one location to another in how contagius this virus seems to be, and how deadly is confusing many people/countries. There is no logical explanation at this time.

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The explanation is that there are probably multiple strains of it going around.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

The explanation is that there are probably multiple strains of it going around.

Yeah, this is likely, and a second or third case is really a catch of the other strains. Plus your body is still technically in recovery mode from the first, so your immune system can only do so much.

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some idiot i work with not only believes it was created in a lab, but believes china's numbers on the virus
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kind9 posted...

It has already been determined that it wasn't created in a lab. These "truthers" believe whatever the hell they want to believe, facts and evidence be damned.

Determined by who? I thought China was basically refusing to comply with the outside world at every opportunity, including claiming that there are no more reported cases of the virus coming in from China because they refused to continue testing for it. Its the equivalent of Homer Simpson saying If I cant see it its not illegal while running a red light with his hands covering his eyes.

https://youtu.be/X03DeM0EldI

There isnt enough evidence to say it is or is not man made, but the suspicious cause being bats that dont live in the area and are not sold in the area and a report made by Chinese scholars at a Chinese university run by the Chinese government suggesting it came from a Wuhan government facility where they study that particular bat suggest that its either man made or at least an accident exposure that caused the outbreak.

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It's easier for me to believe it came from someone getting some meat that wouldn't have passed standards in in a country with any kind of food regulations.

It does absolutely seem like it was made as a bio weapon against the public, yes. There are mountains of evidence to support this as well.

there's mountains of evidence?

@CwebbMichSac4
Pretty much, yeah. I dont know if Im allowed to post external links on here as I havent been back in many years, I will if so. Otherwise, doing research into this topic will lead you to some leads, including Chinas own scientists admitting it most likely came from a bio weapon lab. And to make all this video game related, here you go:

To those saying it isnt deadly enough to be a lab virus: consider why a government would release a low fatality rate, but high contagion rate virus onto the public and amplify it with pure fear-based propaganda, to get people to consent to giving up their rights and freedoms. Get the people to clamor for martial law, digital tattoos, mandatory vaccines embedded with microchips, for starters, and for Big Brother to control every aspect of their lives for their safety.

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

Hail Hydra

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It can be. Pretty sure Gates has a patent on it.

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OhhhJa posted...

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

This. The pandemic was a planned event, something that serves to introduce a manufactured problem, wait for the publics reaction to it, and then offer your own special solution to said problem that you created in the first place. See how it works? Its a psychological operation on the public.

zebatov posted...

It can be. Pretty sure Gates has a patent on it.

He sure does, on the record. The thing with these people is that they put it all in plain sight, admitting everything that theyre doing and simply tricking people into consenting to being enslaved. But now, people are waking up on a massive level, and theyve gotten desperate.

https://youtu.be/kEgAKMNjgyk

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I dont think it was made in a lab because there arent any manmade markers and its exactly the kind of virus mutation that experts have been warning that we are overdue for

just watch the movie contagion its crazy how many parallels that are to our current situation and its because they consulted with actual disease experts

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CwebbMichSac4 posted...

seems a lot of people think it was

A lot of people believe a lot of stupid things, yes.
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CwebbMichSac4 posted...

do you think it was?

Nope. Viruses can be passed to humans through Animals and have done in the past. Conspiracy theories are nothing new though. On that front I believe some folk attach made up reasons to things as they can't accept reality. It's their choice what they believe but just like with religion and politics I find it irksome when folk bang on about them to me despite me saying I don't care for talk about them as I simply don't follow that mindset.

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Demellic posted...

He sure does, on the record. The thing with these people is that they put it all in plain sight, admitting everything that theyre doing and simply tricking people into consenting to being enslaved. But now, people are waking up on a massive level, and theyve gotten desperate.

Patents are all completely 100% public.
Mind shooting a link over?

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kind9 posted...

It has already been determined that it wasn't created in a lab. These "truthers" believe whatever the hell they want to believe, facts and evidence be damned.

Actually the Russian government determined it was. From 30:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ_MUbRUIWg&t=1806s

There are two aspects to this: the actual outbreak from the lab itself and the Chinese using the World Health Organization to present this as a 'disease from nature' that is infecting the whole world. If you'll note many of the people who the media and governments claim are dying from this are people with life-threatening illnesses or are simply old. It is completely incongruous that this would only impact the elderly and not children as well - so you're being lied to. They're faking the test results plain and simple, accept it or deny it I don't care what you think or want to believe either way.

As for 'why' they are doing this, my understanding is it relates to trade issues and or controlling the Chinese populace - there are many Chinese nationals that live overseas and they obviously want someone to blame for this. The world pretending this is impacting everywhere other than China helps the Chinese Communist Party control the narrative and the populace. Another theory I have is that they do not want the Western world getting 'ahead' of China because of this and we all have to suffer because of this mentality. But that is simply my own theory.

So in conclusion: Wuhan lab outbreak was real, but the actual deaths that are being attributed to it in Germany, Italy, Spain, the North American east coast and other parts of the Western world are a conspiracy to benefit China.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

it isn't deadly enough to be a lab virus

Real life isnt resident evil. If a virus is too deadly it burns out before spreading. Crippling larger portions of a population is better for warfare than killing a small group. Not making a statement if its lab created or not but that is a bad reason to believe it couldnt have been engineered.

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Mead posted...

I dont think it was made in a lab because there arent any manmade markers and its exactly the kind of virus mutation that experts have been warning that we are overdue for

There are eight strains or something going around. I think its weird to say overdue for when this came from somewhere that is controllable, regardless of where that was. Bats, a lab, wherever... its simple - dont eat weird shit or dont intentionally create weird shit.

Demellic posted...

He sure does, on the record. The thing with these people is that they put it all in plain sight, admitting everything that theyre doing and simply tricking people into consenting to being enslaved. But now, people are waking up on a massive level, and theyve gotten desperate.

With you on most of what Ive read you say but the norm around here is that theyll being out the torches when they smell a hint of conspiracy, even when its obvious that something extra strange went on, such as the Epstein thing, so I typically avoid it now. Lacking open-mindedness here.

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zebatov posted...

Lacking open-mindedness here.

There's being open-minded, and then there's being so open-minded your brain actually falls out of your fucking head.

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Lone-Wolf posted...

Russian government

Her emails tho

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Mr Hangman posted...

If you say yes to this, you're an idiot or a troll. People are afraid of the fact that bad things can happen entirely by accident and no one is in control. They feel better thinking that some malicious conspirators are pulling all the strings rather than the truth that you live in a cold uncaring and random universe that has a myriad of ways of throwing lethal things at you can you can do little or nothing about.

Could it have been? Yes.
Do we know that it is? No.

IF your sure it was, without evidence then yes, that is kinda crazy.

Same though if your SURE that it wasn't, your just as dumb as the ones who are sure it was.

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Demellic posted...

@ CwebbMichSac4
Pretty much, yeah. I dont know if Im allowed to post external links on here as I havent been back in many years, I will if so. Otherwise, doing research into this topic will lead you to some leads, including Chinas own scientists admitting it most likely came from a bio weapon lab. And to make all this video game related, here you go

china says it? well i guess we should all believe them then, they have been completely honest about everything so far ...
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bulbinking posted...

Real life isnt resident evil.

Prove it.

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wwinterj25 posted...

Prove it.

there is a car i see every once in awhile near where i live with a bunch of umbrella corporation logos on it
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I still want a link to Bill Gates patent on a virus.
That shit is straight public, it's got a search function and everything.

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