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Doe
03/30/20 5:01:11 PM
#102:


So the game map feels big and open ended. I was more or less enjoying myself until Nemesis showed up. I don't know how you're supposed to stop him except by spamming dodge rolls. It seems like he can stun lock you with his punches and he also has a ranged tentacle attack that pulls you back in front of him.

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KillerSlaw
03/30/20 5:02:42 PM
#103:


Doe posted...
So the game map feels big and open ended. I was more or less enjoying myself until Nemesis showed up. I don't know how you're supposed to stop him except by spamming dodge rolls. It seems like he can stun lock you with his punches and he also has a ranged tentacle attack that pulls you back in front of him.

Demo?

You can't "stop" him. You can put him into a 30 ish second "rest" state if you shoot the metal thing on his heart a lot, blow up a red barrel next to him or use a grenade. (barrel and grenade are instant downs I'm pretty sure)

If he puts his hands out and looks up into the air like an over dramatic shakespear actor, you've "downed" him and have 30 seconds to GTFO of the area.

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Webbernet
03/30/20 5:04:25 PM
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How weird that Mr X that used to be scripted is now free roaming and the previously free roaming Nemesis is now scripted? If I read this right?

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Darmik
03/30/20 5:10:41 PM
#105:


Is this gonna be one of those times where lots of people bitch about the review now but in a month or so they'll start to agree with it

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03/30/20 6:12:50 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
basically the original

This like wtf were people thinking?

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Darmik
03/30/20 6:15:04 PM
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--Zero- posted...
This like wtf were people thinking?

Probably the same things that caused the original RE3 to not review as well.

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Darmik
03/30/20 6:31:14 PM
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Hearing/reading a bit more it sounds like a bigger step down than the original RE3 was.

- Shorter. 5-7 hours to beat taking your time and exploring
- Nemesis stops being scary by the third encounter and changes behaviour to be a boss with obvious weaknesses and isn't as scary or effective as Mr X
- More linear than RE2
- Less areas than the OG RE3 which hurts the already shorter experience
- Less puzzles than RE2 Remake or OG RE3

It's not a bad game but it sounds more like an expansion for RE2 than a full priced game.

OG RE3 had Mercenaries to add replay value which isn't here. The Resistance mode hasn't been taken into account yet though to be fair.

I think people should keep their expectations in check. It still sounds like a fun experience at least.

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HBKick18
03/30/20 6:44:36 PM
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Darmik posted...
Hearing/reading a bit more it sounds like a bigger step down than the original RE3 was.

- Shorter. 5-7 hours to beat taking your time and exploring
- Nemesis stops being scary by the third encounter and changes behaviour to be a boss with obvious weaknesses and isn't as scary or effective as Mr X
- More linear than RE2
- Less areas than the OG RE3 which hurts the already shorter experience
- Less puzzles than RE2 Remake or OG RE3

It's not a bad game but it sounds more like an expansion for RE2 than a full priced game.

OG RE3 had Mercenaries to add replay value which isn't here. The Resistance mode hasn't been taken into account yet though to be fair.

I think people should keep their expectations in check. It still sounds like a fun experience at least.
this seems like a fair assessment, given what we know. I will def still buy the game but when it goes on sale, which will probably be soon. RE2 did great commercially and critically and it still was featured in sales soon after release.

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Maninstagnate
03/30/20 7:02:03 PM
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I knew Capcom would be stupid enough to focus on the multiplayer mode instead of the campaign. Every multiplayer Resident Evil died soon after because they suck and Resistance doesn't seem any different.
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brokeNoKaSH420
03/30/20 7:16:55 PM
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Im not paying 60 dollars for a short game

I'll wai
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The_Scarecrow
03/30/20 7:27:53 PM
#113:


IloveJesus posted...
You clearly don't remember my complaints, given that I didn't ever have trouble finishing the game.

My complaint was that he was neither hard nor scary, just tedious.

No, I do. If Mr. X becomes tedious at any point, youre doing something very wrong. In order for you to say such a thing, you must have been either spending way too much time messing around at the Raccoon City Police Station or youre making a lot of noise or both.

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Wewillrocku
03/30/20 7:29:11 PM
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weird.

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KillerSlaw
03/30/20 7:40:05 PM
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People spent more than 10 hours on RE2?

I think my first playthrough of that was like 7 hours tops.

Granted I get there's "two" scenarios but they're not that different.

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Darmik
03/30/20 7:42:47 PM
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KillerSlaw posted...
People spent more than 10 hours on RE2?

I think my first playthrough of that was like 7 hours tops.

Granted I get there's "two" scenarios but they're not that different.

Looking at Steam I spent 22 hours in RE2 all up. Did a playthrough with both Leon and Claire and tried out the unlocked challenge stuff afterwards.

Doesn't sound like RE3 will last me anywhere near as long because I'm not really interested in the multiplayer and there doesn't seem to be as many incentives to replay the game.

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IloveJesus
03/31/20 2:23:47 AM
#118:


The_Scarecrow posted...
No, I do. If Mr. X becomes tedious at any point, youre doing something very wrong. In order for you to say such a thing, you must have been either spending way too much time messing around at the Raccoon City Police Station or youre making a lot of noise or both.

You're talking absolute shite. If you remember me, you clearly didn't understand me. Yes, Mr X doesn't follow you for long, but he adds absolutely nothing positive to the experience. My concern was not the inclusion of Mr X, but that I didn't believe that it was a good basis for Nemesis. So drop all your git gud safekeeping bullshit and stop accusing people of having views that they don't actually have just so that you can feel better about yourself. You're fucking pathetic.

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645AR
03/31/20 2:26:45 AM
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keep giving the dying site clicks
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Northlane
03/31/20 3:09:05 AM
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The game is shorter than Luigi's Mansion on the gamecube and they neutered Nemesis

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sylverlolol
03/31/20 3:26:43 AM
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Reviews are mixed in general. Common complaints I saw are that it's much more actiony than RE2MAKE with plenty of ammo, Nemesis encounters are entirely scripted and lamer than Mr. X, and that the campaign is even shorter at ~4 hours.
...its sitting at an 80 on metacritic with like ~40 of the 48 or so reviews, last I checked, all being positive, lol. FWIW, going by this topic, IGN gave it a 9/10.

Webbernet posted...
How weird that Mr X that used to be scripted is now free roaming and the previously free roaming Nemesis is now scripted? If I read this right?
...I really, really, REALLY wish people would stop perpetuating this free roaming Nemesis nonsense. He was completed scripted in the original, FFS. Him being scripted in the remake does disappoint me greatly since RE2 is what pushed me to even try Alien Isolation (and I loved it). Was hoping Nemesis would be even more relentless. (._.)

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toyota
03/31/20 3:28:15 AM
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lmao why are people getting mad that a reviewer doesnt think the game is all that great

its his opinion. its literally a review lol
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The_Scarecrow
03/31/20 5:28:34 AM
#123:


IloveJesus posted...
You're talking absolute shite. If you remember me, you clearly didn't understand me. Yes, Mr X doesn't follow you for long, but he adds absolutely nothing positive to the experience. My concern was not the inclusion of Mr X, but that I didn't believe that it was a good basis for Nemesis. So drop all your git gud safekeeping bullshit and stop accusing people of having views that they don't actually have just so that you can feel better about yourself. You're fucking pathetic.

Did you clog the toilet today? Chill out. Mr. X does add to the experience in a positive way. Most people you talk to about RE2 will speak of their run ins with Mr. X or how his looming presence changed navigating the police department. He keeps things interesting for first time players. Dont forget about the fun X gon give it to ya memes and videos. RE2 has its flaws but Mr. X really isnt one of them. If you personally dont like Mr. X, thats whatever but dont try to paint it as a negative of the game when its not.

If you find him to be tedious, youre just not doing something right. Nothing wrong with that but dont blame the game or the devs for it. Im not good at Street Fighter but Im not going to shit on Capcom for that. The whole git gud stuff is just joking if it wasnt obvious. For someone who loves Jesus, you dont seem very loving at all.

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malenz
03/31/20 5:29:17 AM
#124:


toyota posted...
lmao why are people getting mad that a reviewer doesnt think the game is all that great

its his opinion. its literally a review lol
I think they're mad because they wanted it to be good, and it's looking like it isn't.

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IloveJesus
03/31/20 5:33:43 AM
#125:


The_Scarecrow posted...
Did you clog the toilet today? Chill out. Mr. X does add to the experience in a positive way. Most people you talk to about RE2 will speak of their run ins with Mr. X or how his looming presence changed navigating the police department. He keeps things interesting for first time players. Dont forget about the fun X gon give it to ya memes and videos. RE2 has its flaws but Mr. X really isnt one of them. If you personally dont like Mr. X, thats whatever but dont try to paint it as a negative of the game when its not.

If you find him to be tedious, youre just not doing something right. Nothing wrong with that but dont blame the game or the devs for it. Im not good at Street Fighter but Im not going to shit on Capcom for that. The whole git gud stuff is just joking if it wasnt obvious. For someone who loves Jesus, you dont seem very loving at all.

Right. So you just can't read.

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_Angel_
03/31/20 6:03:27 AM
#126:


Biscotti posted...
Review was well written.

TLDR: campaign short with poor replay value, Nemesis not used effectively.


I actually like Gamespot because they usually lay out their gripes with a title pretty well, not gonna get hung up on the number

Doesn't sound good though. Hope that doesn't turn out to be the case on release.

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03/31/20 6:23:55 AM
#127:


Kolibri X posted...
They cut a lot from this game. Its gonna be a disappoint like Doom Eternal.


Dude, I've never even played a single Doom game before and even I got hyped watching other people playing it.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
03/31/20 6:56:07 AM
#128:


Nemesis should have been on the player similarly to how the xeno stalked you in Alien Isolation, always there waiting to ambush you.

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solosnake
03/31/20 10:26:27 AM
#129:


Seems like this game is getting panned by the critics in general

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darkprince45
03/31/20 10:39:15 AM
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80 percent at 53 reviews

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/resident-evil-3

how is it getting panned by everyone. What that guy talking

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solosnake
03/31/20 10:56:04 AM
#132:


Gladius_ posted...
Genuinely curious what other critics didn't like it?
I havent looked up a lot, but the two i saw was ACG who said it was a wait and PC Gamer gave it a 58

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SH_expert44
03/31/20 11:00:20 AM
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Jim Sterling gave it a 9 and highly recommends it.

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The_Scarecrow
03/31/20 9:56:05 PM
#135:


IloveJesus posted...
Right. So you just can't read.

I had this full response typed out but I deleted it. I was just wasting my time. Continue to cope and seethe, bud. I recommend playing RE3 on Assist Mode if you get the game. Seems right up your alley.

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rahasperj
03/31/20 10:50:37 PM
#136:


The_Scarecrow posted...
I had this full response typed out but I deleted it. I was just wasting my time. Continue to cope and seethe, bud. I recommend playing RE3 on Assist Mode if you get the game. Seems right up your alley.
Fucking roasted holy shit.

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IloveJesus
04/01/20 1:59:29 AM
#137:


rahasperj posted...
Fucking roasted holy shit.

Why can nobody fucking read?

It was never an issue of difficulty. Ever. Clearly stated many times. Both of you are going on ignore.

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IloveJesus
04/01/20 2:30:13 AM
#139:


Gladius_ posted...
If everyone "has trouble" with your post then maybe you aren't being clear enough or aren't wording things correctly? You used the word tedious in your description of Mr.X but we are having trouble grasping why a 5-10 minute segment is tedious? If you know what you are doing you are in and out so quick that it shouldn't be tedious. It shouldn't take anything of your time. What could make it shorter or less of a burden than it already is?

Oh yeah, because people only play Resident Evil games through once, don't they?

It's tedious because it's boring. Aside from Ada's section it's the worst aspect of the game. You have no incentive whatsoever to engage with him and he's slow as hell, plus you can hear him coming a mile away. It just doesn't have the desired affect at all. All it means is more walking, rather than running, slowly through corridors that you've already cleared.

So yes, tedious. You might not think so, but that's how I feel about it. Nothing to do with difficulty. Everything to do with his implementation being shit.

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AvantgardeAClue
04/01/20 2:37:01 AM
#140:


Mr. X was really fucking annoying when you were trying to get all the pieces to access the police station attic. Had to run laps around the top floor just to avoid him

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IloveJesus
04/01/20 2:47:08 AM
#142:


Gladius_ posted...
You shouldn't be walking and even in my first playthrough I didn't walk. He isn't fast enough to keep up with you and even in the first playthrough it isn't difficult to figure out what you need, knee cap any zombies, and circle back around. It doesn't slow you down much if any. So still confused about it being tedious and boring. Just run to the key item, grab it, and get out. In future playthroughs you REALLY shouldn't be walking. Watch a few speed runners they never slow. The mr,x segments if you know what you are doing literally are 3-5 minutes.

I've no interest in speed runs or watching speed runners. Literally none.

So basically it amounts to the people telling mentors got gud needing to watch players who are actually good to find approaches to get through the game.

Of course, this is all pointless because it wasn't what the actual discussion was about. The original point was that I don't believe that Mr X was a solid foundation on which to build Nemesis.

Nor do I think that REmake 2 was the definitive version of the game so I'm not hyped for the third.

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DarkRoast
04/01/20 2:56:09 AM
#143:


Kolibri X posted...
They cut a lot from this game. Its gonna be a disappoint like Doom Eternal.

DE was great, what the hell

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Ivany2008
04/01/20 2:56:10 AM
#144:


I wonder which game they will remake next. I'd argue 1, since it's very difficult to play through without breaking into laughter. Or they could go straight to Dino Crisis 1.
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rahasperj
04/01/20 3:01:06 AM
#145:


IloveJesus posted...
Why can nobody fucking read?

It was never an issue of difficulty. Ever. Clearly stated many times. Both of you are going on ignore.
Lol what did I do. All I did was comment on the roast you received.

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IloveJesus
04/01/20 3:23:19 AM
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Gladius_ posted...
Why did you argue it isn't about skill or ability then?

Because I don't have difficulty completing the game on hardcore.

You're not talking about skill, you're talking about play style. Different things.
Gladius_ posted...
Note that I think him saying you need assist mode is overly harsh

It's not about it being harsh. It's incorrect. It's also shitty gate keeping.

And once again, you've completely ignored the context of my comments and ignored the part of my post explaining them.

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IloveJesus
04/01/20 3:45:19 AM
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Gladius_ posted...
No I have

Where? You've literally not addressed it at all.

Gladius_ posted...
On a first time play through he exists as a shock factor. He worked for this given the various comments when it initially came out and reaction videos

Oh well if some people thought it provided that on a first playthrough then I guess we'll all just have to agree.

Look, you liked him and I didn't and that's fine. It's not even the point. I'm not going to repeat what the point is now, because I've already done so and you've wilfully ignored it.

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Kolibri X
04/01/20 3:51:24 AM
#151:


DarkRoast posted...
DE was great, what the hell
Not as great as Doom '16.

Anyway, looks like this gonna be a wait until a deep sale for me.

Four hours long.
No multiple endings.
Tons of shit missing.

Selling this for $60 seems like a joke.

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IloveJesus
04/01/20 3:51:32 AM
#152:


Gladius_ posted...
"No one is reading my point!" Occams razor states it is more likely that you aren't good at making your point clear rather than everyone ignoring/not understanding it. I have tried my best to patiently address your points but I am now throwing my hands up in the air. I will agree to disagree.

I've stated it as clearly as possible and you have chosen to ignore it. Occam's razor fails to acknowledge how many trolls are on the internet.

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