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Coastal_elite 03/29/20 4:54:49 PM #201:	Doom_Art posted... It really is sad how easily the progressive movement gets discouraged How quickly they flip to wanting to take themselves out of any kinda influential position if they're not handed the revolution on a silver platter Things are improving slowly with em but holy christ I don't see it as a discouragment issue. Progressives want a PERFECT candidate and nobody is perfect. <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:936439975] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>It really is sad how easily the progressive movement gets discouraged How quickly they flip to wanting to take themselves out of any kinda influential position if they're not handed the revolution on a silver platter Things are improving slowly with em but holy christ</quote> I don't see it as a discouragment issue. Progressives want a PERFECT candidate and nobody is perfect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/29/20 5:01:08 PM #202:	^ Actually. Progressives want a progressive. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:936440288] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>^ Actually. Progressives want a progressive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coastal_elite 03/29/20 5:02:45 PM #204:	Sayoria posted... ^ Actually. Progressives want a progressive. Among other things. Among MANY other things. And many (see mods? I said MANY, not ALL,. leave me alone) would rather vote for an alt-right candidate or stay at home rather than helping a moderate win. <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:936440371] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Sayoria posted... </cite> <quote>^ Actually. Progressives want a progressive.</quote> Among other things. Among MANY other things. And many (see mods? I said MANY, not ALL,. leave me alone) would rather vote for an alt-right candidate or stay at home rather than helping a moderate win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 03/29/20 5:03:56 PM #205:	Sayoria posted... ^ Actually. Progressives want a progressive. Progressives want a revolution handed to them on a silver platter. Bernies turnout proves they dont vote and are only good for lip service. And I VOTED for Bernie. so they can frankly stfu with that sort of sanctimonious garbage --- ultimate milf hunter https://imgur.com/lCEdce6 https://imgur.com/2N1Ezia https://imgur.com/ukJ6sPJ https://youtu.be/IDYaHvDiTr4 <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:936440425] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Sayoria posted... </cite> <quote>^ Actually. Progressives want a progressive.</quote> Progressives want a revolution handed to them on a silver platter. Bernies turnout proves they dont vote and are only good for lip service. And I VOTED for Bernie. so they can frankly stfu with that sort of sanctimonious garbage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/29/20 5:06:26 PM #206:	Coastal_elite posted... I don't see it as a discouragment issue. Progressives want a PERFECT candidate and nobody is perfect. It's entitlement, to a point. "I'm right and we gotta do what I say" They got no interest in seeking any sort of compromise or any willingness to "play the game". And why would they when they're right? Gotta play the long game in politics, especially if you wanna change a political party. There's improvements on that front though with them but the tantrums and shit when they lose are so annoying --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:936440541] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Coastal_elite posted... </cite> <quote>I don't see it as a discouragment issue. Progressives want a PERFECT candidate and nobody is perfect.</quote>It's entitlement, to a point. "I'm right and we gotta do what I say" They got no interest in seeking any sort of compromise or any willingness to "play the game". And why would they when they're right? Gotta play the long game in politics, especially if you wanna change a political party. There's improvements on that front though with them but the tantrums and shit when they lose are so annoying </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/29/20 5:12:47 PM #207:	Coastal_elite posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Or you elect someone that isn't a rapist. BERNIE!!! BERNIE!!!! There are two main candidates. Any write is is basically a trump vote, get real. Any vote between Biden and Trump is a vote for a rapist --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:936440884] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote> Or you elect someone that isn't a rapist.</quote> BERNIE!!! BERNIE!!!! There are two main candidates. Any write is is basically a trump vote, get real.</quote> Any vote between Biden and Trump is a vote for a rapist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmidgeIsntBack 03/29/20 5:22:06 PM #208:	Coastal_elite posted... funny how you present that as truth. It's not true, or proven. I'm just responding to what you wrote, ROD. Red means someone who's raped more, not someone who's raped period. Right? --- Podcast/Audiobook Board https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1364- View my ASCII art and others' at https://thenewhotness.info/ <cite>SmidgeIsntBack posted [p:936441339] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Coastal_elite posted... </cite> <quote>funny how you present that as truth. It's not true, or proven.</quote> I'm just responding to what you wrote, ROD. Red means someone who's raped more, not someone who's raped period. Right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/29/20 5:33:51 PM #209:	EnragedSlith posted... Progressives want a revolution handed to them on a silver platter. Bernies turnout proves they dont vote and are only good for lip service. And I VOTED for Bernie. so they can frankly stfu with that sort of sanctimonious garbage I voted for Bernie too. But the DNC rigged it from the start. Pete and Amy were Manchurian candidates put in there to ween more people to the center. Not the mention that the media has been smearing the guy as a "brown shirt" and a guy who would push lynchings in Central Park. It wasn't just the turnout alone. It was the moderates rallying against him too. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:936441960] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>EnragedSlith posted... </cite> <quote>Progressives want a revolution handed to them on a silver platter. Bernies turnout proves they dont vote and are only good for lip service. And I VOTED for Bernie. so they can frankly stfu with that sort of sanctimonious garbage</quote> I voted for Bernie too. But the DNC rigged it from the start. Pete and Amy were Manchurian candidates put in there to ween more people to the center. Not the mention that the media has been smearing the guy as a "brown shirt" and a guy who would push lynchings in Central Park. It wasn't just the turnout alone. It was the moderates rallying against him too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 03/29/20 6:00:46 PM #210:	Sayoria posted... Pete and Amy were Manchurian candidates put in there to ween more people to the center. Not the mention that the media has been smearing the guy as a "brown shirt" and a guy who would push lynchings in Central Park. It wasn't just the turnout alone. It was the moderates rallying against him too. Moderates rallying against him = moderates voting for the more moderate candidate? Pete and Amy are Manchurian candidates even though they both made Biden look worse in New Hampshire and Iowa? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:936443407] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Sayoria posted... </cite> <quote>Pete and Amy were Manchurian candidates put in there to ween more people to the center. Not the mention that the media has been smearing the guy as a "brown shirt" and a guy who would push lynchings in Central Park. It wasn't just the turnout alone. It was the moderates rallying against him too.</quote> Moderates rallying against him = moderates voting for the more moderate candidate? Pete and Amy are Manchurian candidates even though they both made Biden look worse in New Hampshire and Iowa? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 03/29/20 6:10:37 PM #211:	EnragedSlith posted... Progressives want a revolution handed to them on a silver platter. Bernies turnout proves they dont vote and are only good for lip service. And I VOTED for Bernie. so they can frankly stfu with that sort of sanctimonious garbage I'm a progressive, but I'm also a realist. I like Bernie but lets be fucking real, he would not win in the general, he can't even win the Democratic primary and hasn't expanded his base from the last time he ran. A lot of Bernie supporters think that the revolution was going to happen overnight. Bernie was going to win the nomination and beat Trump and a wave of progressive policies were just going to pour in. It took the Civil Rights movement years and MANY setbacks before supporters gained ground and the constant effort of the people forced Congress to act and make legislative changes. Change is not easy and it often comes with a lot of sacrifice, especially in the face of stringent opposition. Getting mad and taking your ball home doesn't help anyone. Biden was not my first, second, or even third choice, but he's a million times better than the walking, talking Id that we have in the WH right now. There is a cancer on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and getting it out of there is the primary objective. Biden would be a fucking reset from the insanity of the past three years. If you really support Bernie and his objectives then become even more active, not just on Twitter but in local and state elections and vote. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:936443939] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>EnragedSlith posted... </cite> <quote>Progressives want a revolution handed to them on a silver platter. Bernies turnout proves they dont vote and are only good for lip service. And I VOTED for Bernie. so they can frankly stfu with that sort of sanctimonious garbage</quote> I'm a progressive, but I'm also a realist. I like Bernie but lets be fucking real, he would not win in the general, he can't even win the Democratic primary and hasn't expanded his base from the last time he ran. A lot of Bernie supporters think that the revolution was going to happen overnight. Bernie was going to win the nomination and beat Trump and a wave of progressive policies were just going to pour in. It took the Civil Rights movement years and MANY setbacks before supporters gained ground and the constant effort of the people forced Congress to act and make legislative changes. Change is not easy and it often comes with a lot of sacrifice, especially in the face of stringent opposition. Getting mad and taking your ball home doesn't help anyone. Biden was not my first, second, or even third choice, but he's a million times better than the walking, talking Id that we have in the WH right now. There is a cancer on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and getting it out of there is the primary objective. Biden would be a fucking reset from the insanity of the past three years. If you really support Bernie and his objectives then become even more active, not just on Twitter but in local and state elections and vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 03/29/20 6:39:54 PM #212:	Taharqa_ posted... I'm a progressive, but I'm also a realist. I like Bernie but lets be fucking real, he would not win in the general, he can't even win the Democratic primary and hasn't expanded his base from the last time he ran. You're not a realist, you're a pundit. All of the polling data showed Bernie beating Trump and by wider margins than any of the others after Nevada. Heck he was the only one beating Trump in key states for that window. Then every institution that only loyal dem primary voters hold sacred bowed down to Biden. A soup can would've won with that type of sugar high. It's why they persisted with the primaries during a pandemic and declared state of emergencies the next day. As proof, not even a month later those same Biden voters are dreaming about replacing him with Cuomo. These are media creations for pundit brain voters. Radical change has been the easier rhetorical path to victory. You're same type of guy that would say radical change campaigns like Trump, Bernie, and Obama have NO CHANCE. We need safe electable types like Gore, Kerry, Clinton, and Biden. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:936445441] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>I'm a progressive, but I'm also a realist. I like Bernie but lets be fucking real, he would not win in the general, he can't even win the Democratic primary and hasn't expanded his base from the last time he ran.</quote>You're not a realist, you're a pundit. All of the polling data showed Bernie beating Trump and by wider margins than any of the others after Nevada. Heck he was the only one beating Trump in key states for that window. Then every institution that only loyal dem primary voters hold sacred bowed down to Biden. A soup can would've won with that type of sugar high. It's why they persisted with the primaries during a pandemic and declared state of emergencies the next day. As proof, not even a month later those same Biden voters are dreaming about replacing him with Cuomo. These are media creations for pundit brain voters. Radical change has been the easier rhetorical path to victory. You're same type of guy that would say radical change campaigns like Trump, Bernie, and Obama have NO CHANCE. We need safe electable types like Gore, Kerry, Clinton, and Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/29/20 6:44:43 PM #213:	foreverzero212 posted... Heck he was the only one beating Trump in key states for that window This is literally untrue --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:936445695] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>Heck he was the only one beating Trump in key states for that window</quote>This is literally untrue </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 03/29/20 6:47:03 PM #214:	Doom_Art posted... This is literally untrue There was a 2 day window of PA (and maybe MI?) polls after Nevada showing he was the only one beating Trump. Would you like to see those polls. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:936445833] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>This is literally untrue</quote>There was a 2 day window of PA (and maybe MI?) polls after Nevada showing he was the only one beating Trump. Would you like to see those polls. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReggieBush09 03/29/20 6:48:15 PM #215:	and that Man was Al Gore! --- The Man, the myth the Reggie! <cite>ReggieBush09 posted [p:936445891] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>and that Man was Al Gore! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 03/29/20 6:49:28 PM #216:	foreverzero212 posted... You're not a realist, you're a pundit. All of the polling data showed Bernie beating Trump and by wider margins than any of the others after Nevada. Heck he was the only one beating Trump in key states for that window. Then every institution that only loyal dem primary voters hold sacred bowed down to Biden. A soup can would've won with that type of sugar high. It's why they persisted with the primaries during a pandemic and declared state of emergencies the next day. As proof, not even a month later those same Biden voters are dreaming about replacing him with Cuomo. These are media creations for pundit brain voters. Radical change has been the easier rhetorical path to victory. You're same type of guy that would say radical change campaigns like Trump, Bernie, and Obama have NO CHANCE. We need safe electable types like Gore, Kerry, Clinton, and Biden. Bernie would get crushed in the south and Midwest, just like he did in the Dem primaries. The polls say one thing but when people get in that voting booth it's a whole different story. He put his eggs into the 35 and under basket, and lost. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:936445951] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>You're not a realist, you're a pundit. All of the polling data showed Bernie beating Trump and by wider margins than any of the others after Nevada. Heck he was the only one beating Trump in key states for that window. Then every institution that only loyal dem primary voters hold sacred bowed down to Biden. A soup can would've won with that type of sugar high. It's why they persisted with the primaries during a pandemic and declared state of emergencies the next day. As proof, not even a month later those same Biden voters are dreaming about replacing him with Cuomo. These are media creations for pundit brain voters. Radical change has been the easier rhetorical path to victory. You're same type of guy that would say radical change campaigns like Trump, Bernie, and Obama have NO CHANCE. We need safe electable types like Gore, Kerry, Clinton, and Biden.</quote> Bernie would get crushed in the south and Midwest, just like he did in the Dem primaries. The polls say one thing but when people get in that voting booth it's a whole different story. He put his eggs into the 35 and under basket, and lost. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/29/20 6:50:17 PM #217:	Anteaterking posted... Moderates rallying against him = moderates voting for the more moderate candidate? Pete and Amy are Manchurian candidates even though they both made Biden look worse in New Hampshire and Iowa? Yep. They could have easily stayed in but the DNC wanted Biden for some stupid reason. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:936446010] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>Moderates rallying against him = moderates voting for the more moderate candidate? Pete and Amy are Manchurian candidates even though they both made Biden look worse in New Hampshire and Iowa?</quote> Yep. They could have easily stayed in but the DNC wanted Biden for some stupid reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 03/29/20 6:53:49 PM #218:	Sayoria posted... Yep. They could have easily stayed in but the DNC wanted Biden for some stupid reason. Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:936446181] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Sayoria posted... </cite> <quote>Yep. They could have easily stayed in but the DNC wanted Biden for some stupid reason.</quote> Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 03/29/20 7:01:11 PM #219:	Taharqa_ posted... Bernie would get crushed in the south and Midwest, just like he did in the Dem primaries. The polls say one thing but when people get in that voting booth it's a whole different story. He put his eggs into the 35 and under basket, and lost. Ok so you agree that you're not a realist going by data, you just feel he would get crushed in spite of the data saying otherwise. Nothing wrong with punditing for discussion sake. I'm engaging in it myself. Low turnout primaries where almost the entirety of the vote is 65+ loyal democrats has no bearing on the general. Bernie won the 50-59 age vote in states he lost like MI. It's not Bernie hitching his ride to under 35, it's Biden putting all of his eggs into the 65+ basket. Dems lose whenever youth isn't excited in the general, good luck beating Trump at the nursing home. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:936446547] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>Bernie would get crushed in the south and Midwest, just like he did in the Dem primaries. The polls say one thing but when people get in that voting booth it's a whole different story. He put his eggs into the 35 and under basket, and lost.</quote>Ok so you agree that you're not a realist going by data, you just feel he would get crushed in spite of the data saying otherwise. Nothing wrong with punditing for discussion sake. I'm engaging in it myself. Low turnout primaries where almost the entirety of the vote is 65+ loyal democrats has no bearing on the general. Bernie won the 50-59 age vote in states he lost like MI. It's not Bernie hitching his ride to under 35, it's Biden putting all of his eggs into the 65+ basket. Dems lose whenever youth isn't excited in the general, good luck beating Trump at the nursing home. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 03/29/20 7:03:58 PM #220:	Anteaterking posted... Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday. Everything's a conspiracy with these people, the cult leader can never be at fault. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:936446668] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday.</quote>Everything's a conspiracy with these people, the cult leader can never be at fault. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 03/29/20 7:05:19 PM #221:	foreverzero212 posted... Ok so you agree that you're not a realist going by data, you just feel he would get crushed in spite of the data saying otherwise. Nothing wrong with punditing for discussion sake. I'm engaging in it myself. Low turnout primaries where almost the entirety of the vote is 65+ loyal democrats has no bearing on the general. Bernie won the 50-59 age vote in states he lost like MI. It's not Bernie hitching his ride to under 35, it's Biden putting all of his eggs into the 65+ basket. Dems lose whenever youth isn't excited in the general, good luck beating Trump at the nursing home. Did I ever say that I was only going by pure numbers and data? I see the writing on the wall for Bernie, you don't and get surprised that he's lagging behind black voters and can't expand his base. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:936446730] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>Ok so you agree that you're not a realist going by data, you just feel he would get crushed in spite of the data saying otherwise. Nothing wrong with punditing for discussion sake. I'm engaging in it myself. Low turnout primaries where almost the entirety of the vote is 65+ loyal democrats has no bearing on the general. Bernie won the 50-59 age vote in states he lost like MI. It's not Bernie hitching his ride to under 35, it's Biden putting all of his eggs into the 65+ basket. Dems lose whenever youth isn't excited in the general, good luck beating Trump at the nursing home.</quote> Did I ever say that I was only going by pure numbers and data? I see the writing on the wall for Bernie, you don't and get surprised that he's lagging behind black voters and can't expand his base. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 03/29/20 7:08:37 PM #222:	Doom_Art posted... It's entitlement, to a point. "I'm right and we gotta do what I say" They got no interest in seeking any sort of compromise or any willingness to "play the game". And why would they when they're right? Gotta play the long game in politics, especially if you wanna change a political party. There's improvements on that front though with them but the tantrums and shit when they lose are so annoying Damn right <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:936446900] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>It's entitlement, to a point. "I'm right and we gotta do what I say" They got no interest in seeking any sort of compromise or any willingness to "play the game". And why would they when they're right? Gotta play the long game in politics, especially if you wanna change a political party. There's improvements on that front though with them but the tantrums and shit when they lose are so annoying</quote> Damn right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 03/29/20 7:10:01 PM #223:	SmidgeIsntBack posted... I'm just responding to what you wrote, ROD. Red means someone who's raped more, not someone who's raped period. Right? lmao fuck off, now I know not to take you seriously. Tagged appropriately. And continue this thing and you'll get blocked, Gilberto <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:936446969] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>SmidgeIsntBack posted... </cite> <quote>I'm just responding to what you wrote, ROD. Red means someone who's raped more, not someone who's raped period. Right?</quote> lmao fuck off, now I know not to take you seriously. Tagged appropriately. And continue this thing and you'll get blocked, Gilberto </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 03/29/20 7:11:11 PM #224:	Anteaterking posted... Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday. Pete had a good argument to stay in. You dip out after tying for 1st in the first 2 states because Biden's dead campaign won a state he was expected to no matter what? Obama made some phone calls tho. Bernie+Warren flips a lot for Bernie actually. Gives him a giant lead by convincing wins in Texas, Mass and more. At least do simple math before making a statement like that lol. This is also ignoring that pre centron media wave Bernie was beating all of the centrists when polled 1 on 1 (so no vote splitting.) --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:936447031] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday.</quote>Pete had a good argument to stay in. You dip out after tying for 1st in the first 2 states because Biden's dead campaign won a state he was expected to no matter what? Obama made some phone calls tho. Bernie+Warren flips a lot for Bernie actually. Gives him a giant lead by convincing wins in Texas, Mass and more. At least do simple math before making a statement like that lol. This is also ignoring that pre centron media wave Bernie was beating all of the centrists when polled 1 on 1 (so no vote splitting.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 03/29/20 7:11:48 PM #225:	Anteaterking posted... Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday. Actually, Bernie would probably win Super Tuesday if not for the carefully-coordinated endorsements of three other candidates and massive media promotion of Biden. Just his victory in South Carolina wasn't enough to pick up Texas, Klob just dropping out wouldn't be enough to flip Minnesota, etc. it was all of it happening within the 2 days between South Carolina and Super Tuesday that made it happen. It was too much too fast for Bernie to even begin to respond or react to. There simply isn't a universe where all that happens and Bernie wins, unfortunately. The media and the Democratic establishment was not and would never be interested in what Bernie was selling, and if you're telling me moderating would have worked, well, the only available evidence for what that looks like is Sen. Warren, who placed 3rd in her home state. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:936447065] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday.</quote>Actually, Bernie would probably win Super Tuesday if not for the carefully-coordinated endorsements of three other candidates and massive media promotion of Biden. Just his victory in South Carolina wasn't enough to pick up Texas, Klob just dropping out wouldn't be enough to flip Minnesota, etc. it was all of it happening within the 2 days between South Carolina and Super Tuesday that made it happen. It was too much too fast for Bernie to even begin to respond or react to. There simply isn't a universe where all that happens and Bernie wins, unfortunately. The media and the Democratic establishment was not and would never be interested in what Bernie was selling, and if you're telling me moderating would have worked, well, the only available evidence for what that looks like is Sen. Warren, who placed 3rd in her home state. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/29/20 7:13:57 PM #226:	Anteaterking posted... Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday. When paired to Trump, Bernie would have pulled more to change. Again, the issue was worked in advance to pull more people in various directions and then have the Biden endorsements crush Bernie. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:936447188] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>Neither of them had any hope of winning. They didn't even look like they'd be getting any delegates on or after Super Tuesday besides Minnesota and Indiana. Listen to yourself. The only way that Bernie could win is if the moderate vote was fractured between candidates? Bernie + Warren didn't have enough votes to beat Biden on Super Tuesday.</quote> When paired to Trump, Bernie would have pulled more to change. Again, the issue was worked in advance to pull more people in various directions and then have the Biden endorsements crush Bernie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 03/29/20 7:20:07 PM #227:	Taharqa_ posted... Did I ever say that I was only going by pure numbers and data? I see the writing on the wall for Bernie, you don't and get surprised that he's lagging behind black voters and can't expand his base. idk you were beating your chest about being a reals not feels guy, which suggested data to me. He expanded his base quite a bit. He went from white saxist bros in 2016 to dominant among latinos and matching Biden's black support pre Clyburn, much of which was retained under 45. It's more of a generational thing. Older primary voters simply fall in line with media. Bernie losing the dem primary did not surprise me, he's taking on a lot at once. The general was the easier part. It's you that's in a perpetual state of shock when the safe candidate hasn't notched a W in decades. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:936447528] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>Did I ever say that I was only going by pure numbers and data? I see the writing on the wall for Bernie, you don't and get surprised that he's lagging behind black voters and can't expand his base.</quote>idk you were beating your chest about being a reals not feels guy, which suggested data to me. He expanded his base quite a bit. He went from white saxist bros in 2016 to dominant among latinos and matching Biden's black support pre Clyburn, much of which was retained under 45. It's more of a generational thing. Older primary voters simply fall in line with media. Bernie losing the dem primary did not surprise me, he's taking on a lot at once. The general was the easier part. It's you that's in a perpetual state of shock when the safe candidate hasn't notched a W in decades. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
645AR 03/29/20 7:21:35 PM #228:	Coastal_elite posted... lmao fuck off, now I know not to take you seriously. Tagged appropriately. And continue this thing and you'll get blocked, Gilberto okay rod --- sig <cite>645AR posted [p:936447612] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote> lmao fuck off, now I know not to take you seriously. Tagged appropriately. And continue this thing and you'll get blocked, Gilberto </quote> okay rod</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 03/29/20 7:24:03 PM #229:	foreverzero212 posted... Pete had a good argument to stay in. You dip out after tying for 1st in the first 2 states because Biden's dead campaign won a state he was expected to no matter what? Obama made some phone calls tho. Bernie+Warren flips a lot for Bernie actually. Gives him a giant lead by convincing wins in Texas, Mass and more. At least do simple math before making a statement like that lol. This is also ignoring that pre centron media wave Bernie was beating all of the centrists when polled 1 on 1 (so no vote splitting.) You're right, I was running the numbers I remembered in my head but forgot that Bloomberg was still in on Super Tuesday. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:936447727] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>Pete had a good argument to stay in. You dip out after tying for 1st in the first 2 states because Biden's dead campaign won a state he was expected to no matter what? Obama made some phone calls tho. Bernie+Warren flips a lot for Bernie actually. Gives him a giant lead by convincing wins in Texas, Mass and more. At least do simple math before making a statement like that lol. This is also ignoring that pre centron media wave Bernie was beating all of the centrists when polled 1 on 1 (so no vote splitting.)</quote> You're right, I was running the numbers I remembered in my head but forgot that Bloomberg was still in on Super Tuesday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 03/29/20 7:31:51 PM #230:	645AR posted... okay rod Novice User User Since: Feb 2020 Seems SMaL is back :) <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:936448145] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>645AR posted... </cite> <quote>okay rod</quote> Novice User User Since: Feb 2020 Seems SMaL is back :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 03/29/20 7:44:15 PM #231:	foreverzero212 posted... idk you were beating your chest about being a reals not feels guy, which suggested data to me. He expanded his base quite a bit. He went from white saxist bros in 2016 to dominant among latinos and matching Biden's black support pre Clyburn, much of which was retained under 45. It's more of a generational thing. Older primary voters simply fall in line with media. Bernie losing the dem primary did not surprise me, he's taking on a lot at once. The general was the easier part. It's you that's in a perpetual state of shock when the safe candidate hasn't notched a W in decades. You and I have different definitions of "real". I saw the writing on the wall for Bernie a long time ago. The polling data was fool's gold until the primaries started to hit more diverse states. If Bernie is so electable, why isn't he ahead at this time? --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:936448794] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>idk you were beating your chest about being a reals not feels guy, which suggested data to me. He expanded his base quite a bit. He went from white saxist bros in 2016 to dominant among latinos and matching Biden's black support pre Clyburn, much of which was retained under 45. It's more of a generational thing. Older primary voters simply fall in line with media. Bernie losing the dem primary did not surprise me, he's taking on a lot at once. The general was the easier part. It's you that's in a perpetual state of shock when the safe candidate hasn't notched a W in decades.</quote> You and I have different definitions of "real". I saw the writing on the wall for Bernie a long time ago. The polling data was fool's gold until the primaries started to hit more diverse states. If Bernie is so electable, why isn't he ahead at this time? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 03/29/20 7:55:50 PM #232:	Taharqa_ posted... You and I have different definitions of "real". I saw the writing on the wall for Bernie a long time ago. The polling data was fool's gold until the primaries started to hit more diverse states. If Bernie is so electable, why isn't he ahead at this time? because OMG teh globalizt cabal and corporate round table of doom!!! D: <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:936449289] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>You and I have different definitions of "real". I saw the writing on the wall for Bernie a long time ago. The polling data was fool's gold until the primaries started to hit more diverse states. If Bernie is so electable, why isn't he ahead at this time?</quote> because OMG teh globalizt cabal and corporate round table of doom!!! D: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 03/29/20 7:57:07 PM #233:	Taharqa_ posted... You and I have different definitions of "real". I saw the writing on the wall for Bernie a long time ago. The polling data was fool's gold until the primaries started to hit more diverse states. The polling data was pretty consistently correct throughout the primary. Bernie really crushed it in the diverse state of Nevada (like polling said he would) and in early voting of Cali, Texas, etc while polling head and shoulders above the pack nationally. This spooked the dem establishment into forcing everyone to drop and endorse Biden while giving him unlimited fawning media coverage. Again, a soup can would win after that sugar high which radically changed things. It wasn't real or enthusiastic support for the candidate so that's why they're dreaming about replacing him with Cuomo just weeks later. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:936449360] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>You and I have different definitions of "real". I saw the writing on the wall for Bernie a long time ago. The polling data was fool's gold until the primaries started to hit more diverse states.</quote>The polling data was pretty consistently correct throughout the primary. Bernie really crushed it in the diverse state of Nevada (like polling said he would) and in early voting of Cali, Texas, etc while polling head and shoulders above the pack nationally. This spooked the dem establishment into forcing everyone to drop and endorse Biden while giving him unlimited fawning media coverage. Again, a soup can would win after that sugar high which radically changed things. It wasn't real or enthusiastic support for the candidate so that's why they're dreaming about replacing him with Cuomo just weeks later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 03/29/20 8:05:24 PM #234:	Coastal_elite posted... because OMG teh globalizt cabal and corporate round table of doom!!! D: Rod support proving the fish hook theory --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:936449753] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Coastal_elite posted... </cite> <quote>because OMG teh globalizt cabal and corporate round table of doom!!! D:</quote>Rod support proving the fish hook theory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 03/29/20 8:09:40 PM #235:	The people begging to replace Biden with anyone, especially a shitstain like Cuomo, are some of the most pathetic people going today. Like Bill Maher, for example. Biden is the horse that you rode in on and everyone got behind to beat Bernie under the argument that he was the only one electable enough to beat Trump. If the party even attempts to switch now it'll be a complete fucking disaster and they would deserve to lose in November. I may not want Biden, but I'll vote for him and my vote doesn't even matter being in NY. But if they switched to Cuomo? Not a chance lol --- https://twitter.com/bastardspod Buy bolt cutters and machetes <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:936449933] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>The people begging to replace Biden with anyone, especially a shitstain like Cuomo, are some of the most pathetic people going today. Like Bill Maher, for example. Biden is the horse that you rode in on and everyone got behind to beat Bernie under the argument that he was the only one electable enough to beat Trump. If the party even attempts to switch now it'll be a complete fucking disaster and they would deserve to lose in November. I may not want Biden, but I'll vote for him and my vote doesn't even matter being in NY. But if they switched to Cuomo? Not a chance lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
645AR 03/29/20 8:52:43 PM #236:	Coastal_elite posted... Novice User User Since: Feb 2020 Seems SMaL is back :) stop saying my pee pee is SMAL >:0 --- sig <cite>645AR posted [p:936452013] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote> Novice User User Since: Feb 2020 Seems SMaL is back :) </quote> stop saying my pee pee is SMAL >:0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 03/29/20 11:59:25 PM #237:	https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1244466515816022016 --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:936460193] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1244466515816022016 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/30/20 12:02:06 AM #238:	Anita Dunn also provided legal consultation to Harvey Weinstein after the sexual assault allegations pro bono --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:936460293] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Anita Dunn also provided legal consultation to Harvey Weinstein after the sexual assault allegations pro bono</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 03/30/20 1:26:57 AM #239:	that's right --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:936463089] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>that's right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ludwig Von 2 03/30/20 1:38:23 AM #240:	Spiritlittle posted... Funny enough, the only reason Trump won was because most assumed Hillary would win, so they didn't bother voting. And she STILL won the popular vote. We won't make the same mistake again. holy shit no, just no. People simply didnt wanna vote for her. --- My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn <cite>Ludwig Von 2 posted [p:936463411] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Spiritlittle posted... </cite> <quote>Funny enough, the only reason Trump won was because most assumed Hillary would win, so they didn't bother voting. And she STILL won the popular vote. We won't make the same mistake again.</quote> holy shit no, just no. People simply didnt wanna vote for her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 03/30/20 11:18:20 AM #242:	shockthemonkey posted... Been seeing a lot of Biden supporters on Facebook sound exactly like Kavanaugh supporters There are several key differences between these cases! --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:936477422] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Been seeing a lot of Biden supporters on Facebook sound exactly like Kavanaugh supporters</quote> There are several key differences between these cases! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 03/30/20 4:03:00 PM #244:	Jill Filipovic and Symone Sanders deleting their Me Too tweets about the Kavanaugh trial is very on the nose lmao --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:936492074] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Jill Filipovic and Symone Sanders deleting their Me Too tweets about the Kavanaugh trial is very on the nose lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 03/30/20 4:08:52 PM #245:	Smashingpmkns posted... Jill Filipovic and Symone Sanders deleting their Me Too tweets about the Kavanaugh trial is very on the nose lmao It's so stupid. It's their job(s) to come up with a reason why this is different from Kavanaugh and they can't even figure it out. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:936492389] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Jill Filipovic and Symone Sanders deleting their Me Too tweets about the Kavanaugh trial is very on the nose lmao</quote> It's so stupid. It's their job(s) to come up with a reason why this is different from Kavanaugh and they can't even figure it out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/30/20 4:09:33 PM #246:	It's almost like milquetoast moderate Democrats are part of the reason we have a country where a Donald Trump is possible and some people might be tired of it. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:936492423] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>It's almost like milquetoast moderate Democrats are part of the reason we have a country where a Donald Trump is possible and some people might be tired of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 03/30/20 4:12:24 PM #247:	shockthemonkey posted... There are, and instead of assessing Reades claims theyre mass spamming a thing she wrote about Putin that has nothing to do with whether or not she got raped. That's silly. All they have to do is point out the Michael Scottian delivery of the story. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:936492574] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>There are, and instead of assessing Reades claims theyre mass spamming a thing she wrote about Putin that has nothing to do with whether or not she got raped.</quote> That's silly. All they have to do is point out the Michael Scottian delivery of the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/30/20 4:12:56 PM #248:	Anteaterking posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Jill Filipovic and Symone Sanders deleting their Me Too tweets about the Kavanaugh trial is very on the nose lmao It's so stupid. It's their job(s) to come up with a reason why this is different from Kavanaugh and they can't even figure it out. They kinda made it hard to do that with how they covered the Kavanaugh shit, specifically Filipovic. "A rapist shouldn't be on the Supreme court. Kavanaugh accusers must be heard." "A rapist shouldn't be in the oval office. Biden accusers must be heard." --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:936492596] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote> Jill Filipovic and Symone Sanders deleting their Me Too tweets about the Kavanaugh trial is very on the nose lmao</quote> It's so stupid. It's their job(s) to come up with a reason why this is different from Kavanaugh and they can't even figure it out. </quote> They kinda made it hard to do that with how they covered the Kavanaugh shit, specifically Filipovic. "A rapist shouldn't be on the Supreme court. Kavanaugh accusers must be heard." "A rapist shouldn't be in the oval office. Biden accusers must be heard."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CircleOfManias 03/30/20 4:17:53 PM #249:	The DNC is basically controlled opposition. They'd rather lose than run a candidate that would actually change something. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park <cite>CircleOfManias posted [p:936492864] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>The DNC is basically controlled opposition. They'd rather lose than run a candidate that would actually change something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 03/30/20 4:21:29 PM #250:	i've been a registered Democrat for 20 years and I basically vote D down the ticket. i also hate Trump more than i've ever hated a politician. i hate him so much i basically stopped reading the news because i just can't stand it. that said, i dont think im going to vote in 2020 because i just cannot vote for Biden also i live in Ohio. --- Playing: Fire Emblem: Three Houses; Ori and the Will of the Wisps You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:936493044] in Strong Bid... [t:78517993]...</cite> <quote>i've been a registered Democrat for 20 years and I basically vote D down the ticket. i also hate Trump more than i've ever hated a politician. i hate him so much i basically stopped reading the news because i just can't stand it. that said, i dont think im going to vote in 2020 because i just cannot vote for Biden also i live in Ohio. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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