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Webmaster4531
02/21/20 7:06:40 PM
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People know the difference between 1 million and 999 million.
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Mr_Rian
02/21/20 7:08:57 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
The problem is that he spreads a lot of economic illiteracy. Don't tell me that billionaires shouldn't exist or that I don't gain anything from them, and then turn around and say you earned your millions because you wrote a book I don't care about.

There's a big difference between a million and a billion, and how damaging and exploitive you have to be to make it to the billion.

The "shouldn't exist" line comes from the idea that the situation that allowed the billionaire to exploit others should not have been allowed to happen.
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andel
02/21/20 7:10:33 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
andel, what. His beliefs are known. He's been here a long time. Don't rewrite reality dude

over the last year or so he has gone full concern troll. it is p obvious.

Broseph_Stalin posted...
lol every time I ask andel to show me one single post where I'm supportive of Trump he has a meltdown and flees the topic. It's so embarrassing.

Come to think of it, I've never seen a single meaningful post from him. He only seems to pop into topics to defend a particular candidate by using insults. He post like a twitter bot.

i have spanked you many times and this post is delicious irony considering you are the one that flees every topic and have a long standing meltdown when rightfully called out for what you are lol

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/21/20 7:11:03 PM
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RoadsterUFO posted...
*Someone is remotely critical of Bernie.*

CEs Bernie fans: Haha, look someone is melting down!

"remotely critical"

*whines about him in every topic mentioning his name*

You're transparent.

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Pseudomenon
02/21/20 7:11:54 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
People know the difference between 1 million and 999 million.

A lot of posts itt suggest otherwise tbh.

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Malfunction
02/21/20 7:13:04 PM
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i mean, i don't think 'it's perfectly normal to have this additional, valuable asset that growing numbers of people will never be able to afford!' is a good answer but im not going to pretend (a) fucking bloomberg and any number of neolibs care outside of the potential gotcha or (b) that the same people wouldn't be criticising him over some other perceived hypocrisy if he didn't own it.

in fact it's probably somewhat tactical on their part to try and blur the lines between billionaires and millionaires and millionaires and your average working man by proxy
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Webmaster4531
02/21/20 7:13:44 PM
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The one time I saw Broseph defend a liberal idea, he gave up immediately.

I wonder what he's going to do when Bernie wins the nomination.
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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 7:14:00 PM
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Mr_Rian posted...
There's a big difference between a million and a billion, and how damaging and exploitive you have to be to make it to the billion.

The "shouldn't exist" line comes from the idea that the situation that allowed the billionaire to exploit others should not have been allowed to happen.

This is the economic illiteracy I'm talking about.

The only difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is scale. Your restaurant business does not suddenly become exploitative if you open up more of them. The difference between Bernie's book and say, Amazon is that way more people benefit from Amazon.
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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 7:15:24 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
lol every time I ask andel to show me one single post where I'm supportive of Trump he has a meltdown and flees the topic. It's so embarrassing.

Come to think of it, I've never seen a single meaningful post from him. He only seems to pop into topics to defend a particular candidate by using insults. He post like a twitter bot.


andel posted...
i have spanked you many times and this post is delicious irony considering you are the one that flees every topic and have a long standing meltdown when rightfully called out for what you are lol

zero self-awareness
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andel
02/21/20 7:17:25 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
what do you think a concern troll is

he hates leftists. because he is a liberal. he's aggressive toward leftists.

that's it and that's consistent with how he's always been, as far as i can tell. dude dont just make things up, it's not cool and it's rod-esque. i'm not even saying not to trash talk him. just dont make things up

idk what else you would call someone that spreads blatant lies and half truths while spouting right wing propaganda as if it is legitimate

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andel
02/21/20 7:18:03 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
zero self-awareness

luckily your opinion is irrelevant and you have no credibility

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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 7:19:06 PM
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andel posted...
idk what else you would call someone that spreads blatant lies and half truths while spouting right wing propaganda as if it is legitimate

you could stop calling a person a trump supporter when you get called out on it every single time without ever being able to post a single example of me doing so

but again, that would require self-awareness
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Mr_Rian
02/21/20 7:22:59 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
The only difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is scale.

The only to scale up to that massive difference is to be exploitative.

Amazon is very exploitative and has destroyed a lot of shit to get to this size. All while taking tax breaks, and running warehouse workers to death. Sometimes literally.
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/21/20 7:24:31 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
This is the economic illiteracy I'm talking about.

The only difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is scale. Your restaurant business does not suddenly become exploitative if you open up more of them. The difference between Bernie's book and say, Amazon is that way more people benefit from Amazon.

Aren't you one of those guys that claims that paying employees a livable wage would kill businesses?

I mean, surely you must understand the role labor costs play in business profits.

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Mr_Rian
02/21/20 7:24:44 PM
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andel posted...
you have no credibility

What the fuck gives you any more credibility than him?

We're talking issues and you're flinging mud.
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andel
02/21/20 7:32:16 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
you could stop calling a person a trump supporter when you get called out on it every single time without ever being able to post a single example of me doing so

but again, that would require self-awareness

nah, you dont get to control the narrative while blatantly trolling. sorry about your luck.


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Webmaster4531
02/21/20 7:38:00 PM
#72:


Mr_Rian posted...
What the fuck gives you any more credibility than him?

We're talking issues and you're flinging mud.
If you were familiar with Broseph, you'd know why Broseph isn't credible.

He just said a millionaire just has a different scale to a billionaire when he supposedly supports progressive taxes.
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Omnislasher
02/21/20 7:39:12 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Every one in a while I think maybe I should take Bro off block to see his dumb posts, but then someone posts a snippet and I remember how much Id rather keep those brain cells.
just a great decision all around
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/21/20 7:41:51 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...


He just said a millionaire just has a different scale to a billionaire when he supposedly supports progressive taxes.

And even if that were true, he's just not going to bring up the fact that scaling a business usually requires dumping more money into it.

If you're trying to turn a bigger profit, you have to cut costs somewhere.

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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 7:42:22 PM
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Mr_Rian posted...
The only to scale up to that massive difference is to be exploitative.

No you do it by finding a better, more productive way of making that product. When you are willing to pay X amount of money for an item, but Amazon is selling it for less, that's a consumer surplus. When everything you buy comes from private companies competing against each other to be the most efficient, you end up functionally wealthier. Consumers aren't the only ones who benefit, larger and more productive firms pay higher wages. Amazon is now the second largest private employer in the US and they pay higher than average wages.

So again when a book company sells way more books, or finds a cheaper way to sell their book (like ebooks) it doesn't mean they're more exploitative. Success is not exploitative, the economy is not a zero-sum game.
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IShall_Run_Amok
02/21/20 7:42:56 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
If you say Fidel Castro 3 times in the mirror, Bernie Sanders will appear and give you health insurance.
But I wanted to say Che Guevara.

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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 7:43:03 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
If you were familiar with Broseph, you'd know why Broseph isn't credible.

You're the guy who said California can't build denser cities because they have earthquakes.
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/21/20 7:47:49 PM
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Anybody else find it super fucking weird that Broseph is using Amazon as a example here, probably one of the most notoriously exploitative businesses out there?

And there's more ways to exploit workers than by simply paying them a low wage.

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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 7:50:39 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Anybody else find it super fucking weird that Broseph is using Amazon as a example here, probably one of the most notoriously exploitative businesses out there?

No it's weird how you think the companies that attract the most workers are the most exploitative ones.
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Webmaster4531
02/21/20 7:51:02 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Anybody else find it super fucking weird that Broseph is using Amazon as a example here, probably one of the most notoriously exploitative businesses out there?

And there's more ways to exploit workers than by simply paying them a low wage.
It's such a stupid comparison, it makes complete sense that people would think Broseph is a Trump supporter.

Bernie Sanders at most paid an editor to help him write a book.
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/21/20 7:59:01 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
No it's weird how you think the companies that attract the most workers are the most exploitative ones.

Those companies attract the most workers because they're fucking everywhere and have a low barrier to entry, not because they're awesome places to work for.

Are you going to tell me Wal-Mart and McDonald's aren't exploitative?

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andel
02/21/20 8:04:47 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
No it's weird how you think the companies that attract the most workers are the most exploitative ones.

"walmart isnt exploitative"-broseph_trumper

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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 8:07:55 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Those companies attract the most workers because they're fucking everywhere

They're everywhere because they're creating the biggest consumer surplus, people are choosing to spend their money there instead of another business. For the exact same reason, they're able to offer higher wages.

Do I want a job with Amazon or one with the "nonexploitative" small businesses that's going to pay me half the wages with no benefits and more duties? Stop pretend like workers are too dumb to make the right choice for themselves.
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andel
02/21/20 8:08:15 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
Dude why are you acting like Rod

i am not at all but you are clearly full troll mode now and will be treated accordingly

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/21/20 8:09:42 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
They're everywhere because they're creating the biggest consumer surplus, people are choosing to spend their money there instead of another business.

What does any of this have to do with worker exploitation?

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andel
02/21/20 8:10:51 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
You're ignoring reality in favor of baselessly accusing people of fake shit in an attempt to discredit them. What the fuck?

uhh, wrong. there are a number of people itt who agree that that dude is a troll so maybe you should look inward tbh

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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 8:10:58 PM
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andel posted...
i am not at all but you are clearly full troll mode now

zero self-awareness
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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 8:11:15 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
What does any of this have to do with worker exploitation?

Broseph_Stalin posted...
Do I want a job with Amazon or one with the "nonexploitative" small businesses that's going to pay me half the wages with no benefits and more duties? Stop pretend like workers are too dumb to make the right choice for themselves.

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andel
02/21/20 8:11:26 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
zero self-awareness

projection itp

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hockeybub89
02/21/20 8:14:44 PM
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I think every Presidential candidate should be a dirty bum pulled off the side of the road.

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andel
02/21/20 8:14:44 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
The fact that he's posting like a troll is not what's in contention here. You're unabashedly making things up.

wrong but step up your weak sauce trolling attempts if you want further attention

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King_Hutton
02/21/20 8:15:12 PM
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This argument is weird. Cant we all just laugh at the shitty troll?

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Broseph_Stalin
02/21/20 8:16:20 PM
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lol my very first post about andel itt

Broseph_Stalin posted...
lol every time I ask andel to show me one single post where I'm supportive of Trump he has a meltdown and flees the topic. It's so embarrassing.

Come to think of it, I've never seen a single meaningful post from him. He only seems to pop into topics to defend a particular candidate by using insults. He post like a twitter bot.

I can predict this dudes trolling word for word.

I'm pretty sure he's a right-winger posing as a bernie supporter to make them look bad
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/21/20 8:16:29 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Do I want a job with Amazon or one with the "nonexploitative" small businesses that's going to pay me half the wages with no benefits and more duties? Stop pretend like workers are too dumb to make the right choice for themselves.

You say this as if large companies like Wal-Mart and Amazon don't already work their employees to death (often literally).

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/11/amazon-warehouse-reports-show-worker-injuries/602530/

https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/12/10/21005098/amazon-warehouse-workers-sacramento

https://nypost.com/2019/11/30/amazon-warehouses-are-cult-like-sweatshops-run-by-robots-ex-employee/

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-employees-describe-peak-2019-2

Do you seriously want to continue down this train of thought?

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