Current Events > "The best known socialist happens to be a millionaire with 3 houses!"

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Bloomberg: "The best known socialist in the country happens to be a millionaire with 3 houses! What'd I miss here?"
Sanders: "Well you missed that I work in Washington, House 1, live in Burlington, House 2, and like thousands of other Vermonters, I do have a summer camp. Forgive me for that. Where is your home, which tax haven do you live in?"
Bloomberg: "New York City."

Why did Bloomberg get flack/booed for that one? I think he won that exchange.

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if sanders's net worth is 2 million, and bloomberg's 68 billion, then michael bloomberg is about 34 THOUSAND times more wealthy than bernie sanders

one thing all this bullshit demonstrates is our clear inability, generally speaking, to even fathom how much a billion dollars fucking is
but the other and more important thing is that this cheap and lazy talking point of denigrating or discrediting an individual based on how much money they personally have does nothing to further discussion on the ACTUAL substantive points that need to be addressed regarding the unprecedented income inequality and the corrupting power of money in politics

Sanders has made six figures for three decades; if he wasn't a millionaire, his critics would say he's bad with money.
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Omnislasher posted...

but the other and more important thing is that this cheap and lazy talking point of denigrating or discrediting and individual based on how much their worth does nothing to further discussion on the ACTUAL substantive points that need to be addressed regarding the unprecedented income inequality and the corrupting power of money in politics

But that's what politics is all about. Slander.

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Thought this was a Fire Emblem topic.

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Antifar posted...

Sanders has made six figures for three decades; if he wasn't a millionaire, his critics would say he's bad with money.

Admiral used to say exactly this iirc

Omnislasher posted...

if sanders's net worth is 2 million, and bloomberg's 68 billion, then michael bloomberg is about 34 THOUSAND times more wealthy than bernie sanders

Bernie still tried to casually brush off his 600k lake home as if that's something most people can relate to.

Bernie also used to proclaim how the millionaires and billionaires needed to "pay their fair share". He still says that about the billionaires, but funny how he no long attacks the millionaires these days.

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IdiotMachine posted...

Bloomberg: "The best known socialist in the country happens to be a millionaire with 3 houses! What'd I miss here?"
Sanders: "Well you missed that I work in Washington, House 1, live in Burlington, House 2, and like thousands of other Vermonters, I do have a summer camp. Forgive me for that. Where is your home, which tax haven do you live in?"
Bloomberg: "New York City."

Why did Bloomberg get flack/booed for that one? I think he won that exchange.

Bloomberg, in the same sentence, said that Bernie was a communist.


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I mean, it's a pretty dumb argument for Bloomberg to make. Is the implication supposed to be that he's not as "socialist" as he claims to be or people think he is?

Because that dreaded "socialist" stigma is probably the one thing keeping Bernie from running away with the nomination.

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It's not a "summer camp" lol pretty sure it is like a $700k house directly on a lake

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Wasn't the lake house inherited by his wife after her parents died?

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Bloomberg likely has 5-10 more homes than that even.
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IdiotMachine posted...

Why did Bloomberg get flack/booed for that one? I think he won that exchange.

Are property taxes high in New York? I know rents are high in New York.

All my time on CE and politics board I hear non-stop "California California" it overshadows New York.
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Josef Stalin?

Intro2Logic posted...

Wasn't the lake house inherited by his wife after her parents died?

Different house, they sold that one to buy the new one.

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"Who doesn't own a summer camp??" is peak champagne socialist.

Anyway Sanders used to complain about millionaires until he became one. Dude's a grifter.

What point is being made here? Because the guy has done well and owns 3 houses does that mean we should not have medicare for all?

He wrote a book that sold well and became a millionaire. Hes now part of the 1 percent and is actually a capitalist. His lifes work and goodwill of all those protests he attended was thrown out the window once his bank account reached $1,000,000. He doesnt really care about the poor. Bernie is a fraud.

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Antifar posted...

Sanders has made six figures for three decades; if he wasn't a millionaire, his critics would say he's bad with money.

This. I would expect a man his age and earning potential to have a million or two dollars. It's a lot of money, but if you ever want to retire at a reasonable age you're going to need money like that.
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This is in the same dumb vein as Buttigieg saying "I'm the only one on this stage who isn't a millionaire" like it was a matter of decisions he made, rather than most of the other people on the stage drawing 20+ more years of salary than him.

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I think Sanders's response was borderline pathetic, but I also think the attack was without worth, so I don't really care.
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westy159 posted...

What point is being made here? Because the guy has done well and owns 3 houses does that mean we should not have medicare for all?

Exactly. there is no point at all.
they can't discuss the issues so we have to hear irrelevant nonsense like "But bernie is rich too!" and "some of his supporters were mean to us online". embarrassing.

IdiotMachine posted...

Why did Bloomberg get flack/booed for that one? I think he won that exchange.

You know how people cheer when their team does well and boo when the other team does well?

Somewhere along the line, you must have picked up the idea the political alignments are more meaningful than sports fandom. They generally aren't.

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westy159 posted...

What point is being made here? Because the guy has done well and owns 3 houses does that mean we should not have medicare for all?

His response to his hypocrisy was literally I wrote a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire too if you write a best-selling book. So how is that different from the billionaires he constantly criticizes? The cap on how much money it's ok to have seems to be whatever he's worth at the time.

I've never understood how obvious grifters like Trump and Bernie somehow manage to gain followers.

DeadBankerDream posted...

I think Sanders's response was borderline pathetic, but I also think the attack was without worth, so I don't really care.

He does need a better response, I can't believe he didn't have one honestly, but the Trump campaign is going to hammer this 3 houses/bernie wealth thing into the ground

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DevsBro posted...

You know how people cheer when their team does well and boo when the other team does well?

Somewhere along the line, you must have picked up the idea the political alignments are more meaningful than sports fandom. They generally aren't.

You think Bloomberg won like the TC?

I still haven't been given an answer so that's probably why no one thought Bloomberg won.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

You think Bloomberg won too?

I still haven't been given an answer so that's probably why no one thought Bloomberg won.

Are you TC?
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

He does need a better response, I can't believe he didn't have one honestly, but the Trump campaign is going to hammer this 3 houses/bernie wealth thing into the ground

People who say this act like Trump doesn't have worse to bash all of the other candidates on

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

His response to his hypocrisy was literally I wrote a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire too if you write a best-selling book. So how is that different from the billionaires he constantly criticizes? The cap on how much money it's ok to have seems to be whatever he's worth at the time.

Does Bernie have a reputation of working people to death like Bezos?

Mr_Rian posted...

Are you TC?

No, I quoted the exact same thing DevsBro quoted and asked a question. Edit: I figured out the confusion. I asked too because I was asking if he agreed with TC, not me.
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Hairistotle posted...

Wait sanders isn't calling for the end of millionaires right? How is this hypocritical?

lmao he changes what he thinks is allowed to exist based on how much he owns but it's not hypocritical guys.

Alpha218 posted...

People who say this act like Trump doesn't have worse to bash all of the other candidates on

I think Bernie is going to win the nomination honestly, doesn't matter what he has to say about the other candidates.

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lol at broseph_trumper regurgitating right wing talking points itt

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

lmao he changes what he thinks is allowed to exist based on how much he owns but it's not hypocritical guys.

Are you Dr. Evil?
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andel remember what happened the last time you called me a trump supporter

i don't want to see you that embarrassed again ok?

Hairistotle posted...

Hes not a Trumper he's a liberal

nah, he is concern trolling and an obvious trumper.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

andel remember what happened the last time you called me a trump supporter

i don't want to see you that embarrassed again ok?

you got wrecked and ran away as always

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lol every time I ask andel to show me one single post where I'm supportive of Trump he has a meltdown and flees the topic. It's so embarrassing.

Come to think of it, I've never seen a single meaningful post from him. He only seems to pop into topics to defend a particular candidate by using insults. He post like a twitter bot.

you need much more than 2-3 million dollars to be part of the "one percent" no?

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

lmao he changes what he thinks is allowed to exist based on how much he owns but it's not hypocritical guys.

No he didn't. He was asked about it point blank in the debate and he said he's against the Trump tax plan for the 1%(that includes him by the way) and he'll continue to fight against building wealth for the wealthiest Americans at the expense of the poorest.

The focus on billionaires in his speeches is to attack Bloomberg. The moment the rumors of Bloomberg entering the race sprouted up last year he started focusing on that.
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I also don't understand the hypocrisy claims. Is Bernie pushing for legislation to preserve his wealth? He never claimed that millionaires/billionaires should e.g. donate more. He says that they should pay their fair share, which means a combination of laws that increase the amount paid by rich people as well as not finding ways to hide your wealth.

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Nah dawg, Bernie is totes evil and the worst thing ever. Broseph said it himself.

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I used to respect Bernie until he wrote those books and bought a 3rd house. Now I see that everything about him is a lie. I cant stand hypocrites.

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RoadsterUFO posted...

Millionaires and billionaires.

*Writes book that became a successful best seller because of Capitalism that winded up making him a millionaire.*

Billionaires.

He was still staying millionaires and billionaires after writing the book. For three years he's been a millionaire and still kept saying millionaires and billionaires. He was saying it up until last summer when the rumors of Bloomberg entering the race came about.
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Mr_Rian posted...

He was asked about it point blank in the debate and he said he's against the Trump tax plan for the 1%

Anteaterking posted...

I also don't understand the hypocrisy claims.

The problem with Bernie isn't that he opposes income tax cuts for wealthy people. Basically all democrats do.

The problem is that he spreads a lot of economic illiteracy. Don't tell me that billionaires shouldn't exist or that I don't gain anything from them, and then turn around and say you earned your millions because you wrote a book I don't care about.

If his views were limited to "money shouldn't buy power" he'd be a lot more popular.

Roadster is having the longest-running meltdown I've seen yet.

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