Current Events > Court rules that blind pedophile will not be allowed guide dog in prison

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UnfairRepresent 01/02/20 5:46:57 PM #1:	A man who sexually abused a 10-year-old girl has been jailed for seven years. Neil Nellies, 42, who is registered blind, assaulted his young victim, who has since tried to take her own life, and "stole her childhood", Liverpool Crown Court heard. The crimes took place several years ago in Wilmslow, Cheshire, jurors heard. Nellies, who arrived at court with his guide dog Digby, was told prison rules meant he would not be able to have the dog in jail with him. Instead, the labrador will be retrained to help another blind person. "I have the greatest concern that a man who for five years has had the benefit of a guide dog, giving him his freedom and mobility, will be taken into an environment which is wholly unfamiliar," said Nellies' barrister Rachel Shenton. She added she did not wish to downplay the effect of Nellies' behaviour on the victim, but "prison for him will have a devastating impact". 'Stole girl's childhood' She urged Judge Simon Berkson to suspend any jail term, arguing Nellies was already imprisoned by a degenerative eye disease. But Judge Berkson refused due to the serious nature of the offences. He said the victim "told her mother's friend that she was not 'her mother's little girl any more'". "You stole that girl's childhood," he told Nellies, of Lumley Road, Macclesfield. James Coutts, prosecuting, said the victim had suffered serious psychological harm. Nellies, who denied any wrongdoing, was convicted of five serious sexual offences after a trial. The court heard how Nellies had previously also suffered a stroke and had mental health issues, an emotionally unstable personality disorder and possible ***. Judge Berkson ordered Nellies to be placed on the sex offenders register for life and imposed an indefinite sexual harm prevention order and an extra year on licence. Full Article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-50975666 https://i.imgur.com/gIU6jM8.jpg Dog or no dog the prison better be equipped to handle blind inmates. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:932377753] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>A man who sexually abused a 10-year-old girl has been jailed for seven years. Neil Nellies, 42, who is registered blind, assaulted his young victim, who has since tried to take her own life, and "stole her childhood", Liverpool Crown Court heard. The crimes took place several years ago in Wilmslow, Cheshire, jurors heard. Nellies, who arrived at court with his guide dog Digby, was told prison rules meant he would not be able to have the dog in jail with him. Instead, the labrador will be retrained to help another blind person. "I have the greatest concern that a man who for five years has had the benefit of a guide dog, giving him his freedom and mobility, will be taken into an environment which is wholly unfamiliar," said Nellies' barrister Rachel Shenton. She added she did not wish to downplay the effect of Nellies' behaviour on the victim, but "prison for him will have a devastating impact". 'Stole girl's childhood' She urged Judge Simon Berkson to suspend any jail term, arguing Nellies was already imprisoned by a degenerative eye disease. But Judge Berkson refused due to the serious nature of the offences. He said the victim "told her mother's friend that she was not 'her mother's little girl any more'". "You stole that girl's childhood," he told Nellies, of Lumley Road, Macclesfield. James Coutts, prosecuting, said the victim had suffered serious psychological harm. Nellies, who denied any wrongdoing, was convicted of five serious sexual offences after a trial. The court heard how Nellies had previously also suffered a stroke and had mental health issues, an emotionally unstable personality disorder and possible ***. Judge Berkson ordered Nellies to be placed on the sex offenders register for life and imposed an indefinite sexual harm prevention order and an extra year on licence. Full Article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-50975666 https://i.imgur.com/gIU6jM8.jpg Dog or no dog the prison better be equipped to handle blind inmates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DK9292 01/02/20 5:49:56 PM #2:	Is there a reason you censored the word autism? --- A hero's role is one that cannot be forsaken, Caring for those with hearts that are breaking. <cite>DK9292 posted [p:932377883] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>Is there a reason you censored the word autism? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/02/20 5:50:14 PM #3:	UnfairRepresent posted... Dog or no dog the prison better be equipped to handle blind inmates. Does UK have hospital prisons, for the not-insane? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:932377891] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Dog or no dog the prison better be equipped to handle blind inmates.</quote>Does UK have hospital prisons, for the not-insane? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 01/02/20 5:51:52 PM #4:	So... not trying to be an asshole... but... How do you let a blind guy assault you? What happened there? --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:932377960] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>So... not trying to be an asshole... but... How do you let a blind guy assault you? What happened there? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PatrickMahomes 01/02/20 5:52:09 PM #5:	Fair next, would rather have that dog helping an upstanding member of society instead --- My 'R' key is on its last legs. This isn't a gimmick. Instead of CTRL + Ving the letter R every time, I am giving up on Rs, so forgive any words missing R. <cite>PatrickMahomes posted [p:932377972] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>Fair next, would rather have that dog helping an upstanding member of society instead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/02/20 5:52:29 PM #6:	cuttin_in_farm posted... So... not trying to be an asshole Yet here we are --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:932377983] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted...</cite> <quote>So... not trying to be an asshole</quote> Yet here we are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 01/02/20 5:53:29 PM #7:	cuttin_in_farm posted... So... not trying to be an asshole... but... How do you let a blind guy assault you? What happened there? He probably was using his blindness as an excuse but who knows --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:932378019] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>So... not trying to be an asshole... but... How do you let a blind guy assault you? What happened there?</quote>He probably was using his blindness as an excuse but who knows </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 01/02/20 5:53:31 PM #8:	PatrickMahomes posted... Fair next, would rather have that dog helping an upstanding member of society instead Ok... --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:932378021] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>PatrickMahomes posted... </cite> <quote>Fair next, would rather have that dog helping an upstanding member of society instead</quote>Ok... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gheb 01/02/20 5:55:49 PM #9:	UnfairRepresent posted... Dog or no dog the prison better be equipped to handle blind inmates. Sums up my thoughts. This dude is certainly not a good person and absolutely deserves to be locked up, but if the government is going to take somebody into their care, even if it is involuntary, that means they need to care for the person. That means having the ability for a blind person to remain functional in a way that isn't cruel. --- S** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again.* - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl <cite>Gheb posted [p:932378096] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote> Dog or no dog the prison better be equipped to handle blind inmates.</quote>Sums up my thoughts. This dude is certainly not a good person and absolutely deserves to be locked up, but if the government is going to take somebody into their care, even if it is involuntary, that means they need to care for the person. That means having the ability for a blind person to remain functional in a way that isn't cruel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vermander 01/02/20 5:56:10 PM #10:	Better question: If you were blind and could nt see anyone, why would you sexually assault children? --- Nintendo Switch FC: SW-0807-8653-6885 <cite>Vermander posted [p:932378115] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>Better question: If you were blind and could nt see anyone, why would you sexually assault children? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 01/02/20 5:56:10 PM #11:	cuttin_in_farm posted... So... not trying to be an asshole... but... How do you let a blind guy assault you? What happened there? His blind ability probably gave him super human screeching, so when he let out the cry, the victim was frozen in place. --- I support Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:932378117] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>So... not trying to be an asshole... but... How do you let a blind guy assault you? What happened there?</quote>His blind ability probably gave him super human screeching, so when he let out the cry, the victim was frozen in place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 01/02/20 5:56:42 PM #12:	modena posted... He probably was using his blindness as an excuse but who knows I wanted more info on that point. why put a dog through the problems of being leashed to helping a pedo. Thats a fair, next. But Im really not sure how a little girl can be assaulted by a blind guy to the point where shes mentally scarred. Its like... was she in charge of taking care of him or something? Theres no way it was JUST the blind guy. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:932378131] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>modena posted... </cite> <quote>He probably was using his blindness as an excuse but who knows</quote> I wanted more info on that point. why put a dog through the problems of being leashed to helping a pedo. Thats a fair, next. But Im really not sure how a little girl can be assaulted by a blind guy to the point where shes mentally scarred. Its like... was she in charge of taking care of him or something? Theres no way it was JUST the blind guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 01/02/20 5:58:00 PM #13:	cuttin_in_farm posted... I wanted more info on that point. why put a dog through the problems of being leashed to helping a pedo. Thats a fair, next. But Im really not sure how a little girl can be assaulted by a blind guy to the point where shes mentally scarred. Its like... was she in charge of taking care of him or something? Theres no way it was JUST the blind guy. Maybe her mom has something to do with this? --- I support Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:932378182] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>I wanted more info on that point. why put a dog through the problems of being leashed to helping a pedo. Thats a fair, next. But Im really not sure how a little girl can be assaulted by a blind guy to the point where shes mentally scarred. Its like... was she in charge of taking care of him or something? Theres no way it was JUST the blind guy.</quote>Maybe her mom has something to do with this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barber102 01/02/20 5:59:14 PM #14:	As someone who is visual impaired, fuck this guy. Give the dog to someone who not only needs it but deserves it. --- You're huffing glue again, aren't you? <cite>Barber102 posted [p:932378236] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>As someone who is visual impaired, fuck this guy. Give the dog to someone who not only needs it but deserves it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/02/20 5:59:18 PM #15:	cuttin_in_farm posted... But Im really not sure how a little girl can be assaulted by a blind guy to the point where shes mentally scarred. Its like... was she in charge of taking care of him or something? Theres no way it was JUST the blind guy. Holy shit Are you bending over backwards to blame a CHILD sexual assault victim? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:932378241] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted...</cite> <quote> But Im really not sure how a little girl can be assaulted by a blind guy to the point where shes mentally scarred. Its like... was she in charge of taking care of him or something? Theres no way it was JUST the blind guy. </quote> Holy shit Are you bending over backwards to blame a CHILD sexual assault victim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 01/02/20 5:59:48 PM #16:	In the US they would throw him in a cold cell and beat the shit out of him on a daily basis the UK's prison system must be cushy <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:932378267] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>In the US they would throw him in a cold cell and beat the shit out of him on a daily basis the UK's prison system must be cushy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DK9292 01/02/20 6:00:36 PM #17:	UnfairRepresent posted... Holy shit Are you bending over backwards to blame a CHILD sexual assault victim? Starting to remember why I stopped coming to these boards. --- A hero's role is one that cannot be forsaken, Caring for those with hearts that are breaking. <cite>DK9292 posted [p:932378303] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Holy shit Are you bending over backwards to blame a CHILD sexual assault victim?</quote>Starting to remember why I stopped coming to these boards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/02/20 6:02:05 PM #18:	DK9292 posted... Starting to remember why I stopped coming to these boards. Then stop coming You won't be missed and don't contribute anything. You could join in a conversation or say something friendly or interesting but no you just low key down talk child sexual assault victims. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:932378368] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote> Starting to remember why I stopped coming to these boards. </quote> Then stop coming You won't be missed and don't contribute anything. You could join in a conversation or say something friendly or interesting but no you just low key down talk child sexual assault victims.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/02/20 6:04:47 PM #20:	DK9292 posted... ...are you fucking shitting me. I was AGREEING with you, for fuck's sake. I stopped coming because of shit like that guy blaming the child abuse victim. You fucking asshole. Sorry. I thought you were him. Didn't check the usernames just that you replied to my post. My bad. I take it all back. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:932378477] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote> ...are you fucking shitting me. I was AGREEING with you, for fuck's sake. I stopped coming because of shit like that guy blaming the child abuse victim. You fucking asshole. </quote> Sorry. I thought you were him. Didn't check the usernames just that you replied to my post. My bad. I take it all back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gheb 01/02/20 6:05:11 PM #21:	UnfairRepresent posted... Then stop coming You won't be missed and don't contribute anything. You could join in a conversation or say something friendly or interesting but no you just low key down talk child sexual assault victims. This is the most UnfairRepresent post ever. You are being contrarian to someone who agreed with you. --- S** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again.* - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl <cite>Gheb posted [p:932378491] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Then stop coming You won't be missed and don't contribute anything. You could join in a conversation or say something friendly or interesting but no you just low key down talk child sexual assault victims.</quote>This is the most UnfairRepresent post ever. You are being contrarian to someone who agreed with you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/02/20 6:06:32 PM #23:	Vermander posted... Better question: If you were blind and could nt see anyone, why would you sexually assault children? It is often not made clear, but there is a distinction between blind and legally blind. A legally blind person can still see, but so poorly that they can't function in society. A totally blind person is what most people think of when you say someone is blind. Judging by the mugshot, he is most likely the former, not the latter. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:932378537] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>Vermander posted... </cite> <quote>Better question: If you were blind and could nt see anyone, why would you sexually assault children?</quote> It is often not made clear, but there is a distinction between blind and legally blind. A legally blind person can still see, but so poorly that they can't function in society. A totally blind person is what most people think of when you say someone is blind. Judging by the mugshot, he is most likely the former, not the latter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/02/20 6:06:48 PM #24:	DK9292 posted... fuck you. you said it yourself, i wont be missed, so fine. fuck it. Well I was talking about cuttin_in_farm --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:932378545] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote> fuck you. you said it yourself, i wont be missed, so fine. fuck it. </quote> Well I was talking about cuttin_in_farm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/02/20 6:08:12 PM #25:	What if the dog is the one perpetrating the crime and they give it to another blind guy and that blind guy gets in trouble. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:932378603] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>What if the dog is the one perpetrating the crime and they give it to another blind guy and that blind guy gets in trouble. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vermander 01/02/20 6:08:24 PM #26:	s0nicfan posted... It is often not made clear, but there is a distinction between blind and legally blind. A legally blind person can still see, but so poorly that they can't function in society. A totally blind person is what most people think of when you say someone is blind. Judging by the mugshot, he is most likely the former, not the latter. That would make more sense. If I was truly blind and had an unnatural attraction to children I could just as easy get a full consenting adult and roleplay and effectively get the same experience, so it just seemed like a really irrational crime. --- Nintendo Switch FC: SW-0807-8653-6885 <cite>Vermander posted [p:932378609] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>It is often not made clear, but there is a distinction between blind and legally blind. A legally blind person can still see, but so poorly that they can't function in society. A totally blind person is what most people think of when you say someone is blind. Judging by the mugshot, he is most likely the former, not the latter.</quote> That would make more sense. If I was truly blind and had an unnatural attraction to children I could just as easy get a full consenting adult and roleplay and effectively get the same experience, so it just seemed like a really irrational crime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 01/02/20 6:10:19 PM #27:	DK9292 posted... fuck you. you said it yourself, i wont be missed, so fine. fuck it. Breh the dude apologized. He didnt see who posted it --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:932378688] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>DK9292 posted... </cite> <quote>fuck you. you said it yourself, i wont be missed, so fine. fuck it.</quote>Breh the dude apologized. He didnt see who posted it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 01/02/20 6:11:47 PM #28:	DK9292 posted... Starting to remember why I stopped coming to these boards. Yeah the TC is shit we all know that --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:932378742] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>DK9292 posted... </cite> <quote>Starting to remember why I stopped coming to these boards.</quote>Yeah the TC is shit we all know that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 01/02/20 6:12:16 PM #29:	UnfairRepresent posted... Then stop coming You won't be missed and don't contribute anything. You could join in a conversation or say something friendly or interesting but no you just low key down talk child sexual assault victims. Fuck off --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:932378766] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Then stop coming You won't be missed and don't contribute anything. You could join in a conversation or say something friendly or interesting but no you just low key down talk child sexual assault victims.</quote>Fuck off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 01/02/20 6:15:12 PM #30:	Hexenherz posted... What if the dog is the one perpetrating the crime and they give it to another blind guy and that blind guy gets in trouble. OH SHIT --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:932378874] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted... </cite> <quote>What if the dog is the one perpetrating the crime and they give it to another blind guy and that blind guy gets in trouble.</quote>OH SHIT </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 01/02/20 8:13:48 PM #31:	UnfairRepresent posted... Holy shit Are you bending over backwards to blame a CHILD sexual assault victim? Read the post again. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:932383570] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Holy shit Are you bending over backwards to blame a CHILD sexual assault victim?</quote> Read the post again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/03/20 3:20:45 AM #32:	Vermander posted... That would make more sense. If I was truly blind and had an unnatural attraction to children I could just as easy get a full consenting adult and roleplay and effectively get the same experience, so it just seemed like a really irrational crime. wtf --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:932397829] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>Vermander posted...</cite> <quote> That would make more sense. If I was truly blind and had an unnatural attraction to children I could just as easy get a full consenting adult and roleplay and effectively get the same experience, so it just seemed like a really irrational crime. </quote> wtf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingArthur3D 01/03/20 4:20:02 AM #33:	<cite>KingArthur3D posted [p:932398640] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/05/20 4:37:22 AM #34:	KingArthur3D posted... I dont get it --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:932488029] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>KingArthur3D posted...</cite> <quote> </quote> I dont get it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 01/05/20 6:05:54 AM #35:	Fuck that piece of shit. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:932489311] in Court rule... [t:78301035]...</cite> <quote>Fuck that piece of shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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