Board 8 > B8 NFL Ladder Contest, Week 17

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WickIebee
12/26/19 12:59:37 PM
#1:


Final regular week and I love how I promised to do Thursday Night's game yesterday then didn't post. Only to remember today there's no TNF/MNF on the final week. Ah well.

A few ground rules:
-Please say which level you are on when you post your pick. In most cases it will be obvious, but this makes it easier for me to record the picks.
-The deadline to make a pick is at the start of the second set of games on Sunday afternoon (4:25 PM ET). That means no SNF/MNF picks after most all the games have started or finished. You cannot pick a game that has already started.
-The deadline to answer the bonus question is at the start of games on Sunday (1 PM ET).
-Please post the spreads with your picks, it makes it much easier for me.
-I get my spreads from an online site providing lines from several sources, both in Vegas and out. Although these sources may continue to change their lines throughout the week, the ones I post in the topic are frozen and final for our purposes.
-You may use bonus points to skip any level after it is guaranteed you cannot pass it (at the end of the week's games, typically). You may only skip the level before I have posted the next week's topic. The price for skipping is in proportion to the level you are skipping. Skipping level 1 would take 1 bonus point, level 2 will take 2, level 5 will take 5. So on and so forth. (No skipping this week, since final week)

Games:
Titans (-3.5) @ TEXANS - 45.5
Browns (-2.5) @ BENGALS - 44.5
VIKINGS (-1.5) v Bears - 37.5
Colts (-3.5) @ JAGUARS - 43.5
BUCCANEERS (-1.5) v Falcons - 47.5
COWBOYS (-10.5) v Redskins - 45.5
Saints (-12.5) @ PANTHERS - 46.5
Eagles (-4.5) @ GIANTS - 45.5
Steelers (-1.5) @ RAVENS - 37.5
BILLS (-1.5) v Jets - 36.5
PATRIOTS (-15.5) v Dolphins - 44.5
Packers (-12.5) @ LIONS - 43.5
CHIEFS (-8.5) v Chargers - 44.5
RAMS (-4.5) v Cardinals - 45.5
49ers (-3.5) @ SEAHAWKS - 46.5
BRONCOS (-3.5) v Raiders - 40.5

Level 1: Pick a winner. Simply pick one team to win their game. If they win, you go on to level 2.

Level 2: Pick an Underdog to win. You must pick a team that is an underdog to win their game.
Underdogs will always be the team listed second.

Level 3: 2 Games with Spread. Using the spreads I provide, pick 2 games. You must get both correct to move on. Spreads work by giving (-) or getting (+) points. The team that is the favorite to win "gives" points to the underdog. If you choose the favorite to win, they must still win after "giving" those points to the underdog. If you choose the underdog, you would be correct if they win the game after "getting" those points. For example, if a game says "Giants (-2.5) vs. Cowboys," if you pick the Giants, they must actually win the game by at least three points; if you pick the Cowboys, you would win if they actually won the game or lost by two points or less.

Level 4: 2 Game differentials. Pick two games and specify them to have a score differential of either 10+ or 5-. Make sure to specify which you pick, if you pick a score to be 10+ and the score ends up 3 apart, you don't get that one correct.

Level 5: 2 Over/Unders: I will now provide over/unders for each game. This number relates to the final score. You must choose 2 of the games and decide whether the final score will be OVER the number I provided or UNDER the number I provided. You must get both of these correct to advance.

Level 6: Pleaser: Pick one team to win using the spread, but with the pleaser, you lose 6 points on the spread. In other words, add six points in whichever direction makes it harder to win. For example, a (-2.5) spread becomes (-8.5), a (+3.5) becomes a (-2.5) spread, etc.

Level 7: QB, RB, WR: Pick 1 player to throw a touchdown pass, 1 player to rush for a touchdown, and 1 player to catch a touchdown pass. They must all be from different teams, and must also combine for at least 4 touchdowns in their respective positions. Typically you will be picking a QB, RB, and WR, but you may pick players from other positions to fill those roles (i.e. a TE or RB to get a receiving touchdown). You must make it clear what role you are picking the players for if it is not the standard QB/RB/WR or QB/RB/TE. If the player gets a touchdown in a different way (i.e. your rusher getting a receiving touchdown), it does not count.

Level 8: 5 Game Teaser: This is the opposite of level 6. Instead of losing 6 points on each spread, you actually gain 6 points on each spread. But you have to get all 5 games right to move on. So a team favored by 9.5 will now only have to win by 3.5, a team that is getting 2.5 points will now be getting 8.5 points.

TIEBREAKER: This is where the bonus points you have acquired throughout the season come into play. For every bonus point you have, you may attempt a level you have previously passed. You can only "redeem" each bonus point once, but you may spread them out however you choose amongst the remaining weeks. You cannot attempt the same level more than once in the same week (although you can attempt similar levels with the same pick, i.e. Level 3 and Level 6). For each level you pass, you will get points equal to the level number passed (i.e. if you submit a Level 4 pick and get it right, that's 4 points). The total accumulation of these points will be the tiebreaker between anyone tied at the highest level at the end of the season.

No bonus point since there's nothing to do with one if someone gets it, obviously. So...
I've finally added the skip option, how has it been? Does it seem too simple, or was it a good rule change?

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WickIebee
12/26/19 1:00:15 PM
#2:


Level 8
HBJDubs******
MysteriousStan- Paid(*******)
Runemistress*-Paid(*****)
StifledSilence*- Paid(****)
SwiftyDC*-Paid(***)
Whiskey_Nick**

Level 7
Camden [18]
5tarscream [7]
Paratroopa1* [12]
Arti******
DpObliVion*** [5]
foxhead84* [4]
KingButz*- Paid(****)
KommunistKoala***
Liquid Oshawott*****
Mewtwo59*- Paid(***) [6]
Sir Chris*
SpikeDragon***
Stripperiffic**
th3l3fty*****
theawesomestevr***
thekitchensink**
Wiggumfan267** [6]
ZeroSignal620*

Level 6
Dancedreamer**
MZero11***
turbopuns*- Paid(***)

Level 5
Ashethan*****
Cody11533**
crazyisgood***
Crescent-Moon**
davidponte****
Evil_REmade*-Paid(****)
FBike1**
Jukkie** [3]
LadyVyxx* [2]
pronouncemyname**
Ringworm**- Paid(***)
Seginustemple*****
Xuxon****-Paid(***)

Level 4
fortybelowsummer*-Paid(***)
HanOfTheNekos**
KCF0107*****
MegamanX*
TheKnightofNee******
Wicklebee*-Paid(***)

Level 3
guffguy
kevwaffles**
KokoroAkechi**
Reg**
Scarechan**
Suprak the Stud
Vengeful_KBM*

Level 2
Eddv*
greengravy294
HessianPeel
junk_funk
MaxedOutRyu
Mccheyne
Meow1000*
MMXCalibur
WarThaNemesis2

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StifledSilence
12/26/19 1:08:29 PM
#3:


Level 8

COWBOYS (-4.5)
Saints (-6.5)
PATRIOTS (-9.5)
Packers (-6.5)
CHIEFS (-2.5)

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Whiskey_Nick
12/26/19 1:22:28 PM
#4:


Level 8:
Texans +9.5
49ers +2.5
Rams +1.5
Chiefs -2.5
Bills +4.5


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KCF0107
12/26/19 1:50:24 PM
#5:


Level 4:
Chiefs/Chargers 10+
Pats/Dolphins 10+

Bonus Point stuff:
Level 2 - Texans
Level 3 - Browns -2.5 and Vikings -1.5

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KommunistKoala
12/26/19 2:04:33 PM
#6:


Level 7:

QB: Patrick Mahomes
RB: Aaron Jones
WR: Michael Thomas

Bonuses:
Level 6: Falcons
Level 5: Steelers @ Ravens UNDER, Bills vs Jets UNDER
Level 4: Saints/Panthers +10, Chiefs/Chargers +10

Assuming I did the bonuses right


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KCF0107
12/26/19 2:13:17 PM
#7:


KCF0107 posted...
Level 4:
Chiefs/Chargers 10+
Pats/Dolphins 10+

Bonus Point stuff:
Level 2 - Texans
Level 3 - Browns -2.5 and Vikings -1.5
I would also like to use a bonus point to do Level 1 - Chiefs

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Jukkie
12/26/19 4:00:52 PM
#8:


Level 5
Titans (-3.5) @ TEXANS - 45.5 - OVER
49ers (-3.5) @ SEAHAWKS - 46.5 - OVER

Bonus Tiebreaker = Level 2 - Seahwaks
Level 3 - BILLS -1.5 and Vikings -1.5

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5tarscream
12/26/19 10:27:19 PM
#9:


L7:
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Ezekiel Elliot
WR: Michael Thomas
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ZeroSignal620
12/26/19 11:13:25 PM
#10:


QB: Russell Wilson
RB: Ezekiel Elliott
WR: Michael Thomas

Bonus Tiebreaker: Level 1 - Saints

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Paratroopa1
12/26/19 11:34:41 PM
#11:


Damn, I wanted to do level 8, but I never got the chance because I'm stuck on level 7, my least favorite level. I'm a little bit sad.

Well fuck it. I'm sick of level 7 so I'm gonna go out in a blaze of glory here.

QB: Pat Mahomes
RB: MARSHAWN LYNCH
WR: Michael Thomas

I believe!

Tiebreaker Level 6: Raiders (-2.5)

I can't really speak to whether or not the skipping thing was successful because my level outpaced my number of tiebreaker points for the entire season, so I was never eligible.
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Mewtwo59
12/27/19 1:11:25 AM
#12:


Well, making logical picks hasn't worked out, so let's get crazy with a blast from the past.

Level 7:
QB: Robert Griffin III
RB: Marshawn Lynch
WR: Larry Fitzgerald

Really wish Gronk came back this week too so I could pick him for WR, but Fitzgerald will have to do.

Tiebreaker: Level 6: Bills (-7.5)

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Paratroopa1
12/27/19 1:31:37 AM
#13:


week 17: the week that everyone stops giving a fat fuck about making level 7 picks
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Camden
12/27/19 2:17:17 PM
#14:


Level 7
QB - Jameis Winston
RB - Derrick Henry
WR - Cooper Kupp

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crazyisgood
12/27/19 4:21:29 PM
#15:




Eagles (-4.5) @ GIANTS - 45.5 under
CHIEFS (-8.5) v Chargers - 44.5 under

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fortybelowsummer
12/27/19 6:52:38 PM
#16:


Level 4

Cowboys vs Redskins 10+
Patriots vs. Dolphins 10+

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Cody11533
12/27/19 7:45:19 PM
#17:


Level 5, my downfall:
Saints/Panthers - 46.5 OVER
Packers/Lions - 43.5 OVER
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pronouncemyname
12/27/19 8:42:20 PM
#18:


Level 5 on the last week wooo

Vikings/Bears 37.5 under
Bucs/Falcons 47.5 over
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foxhead84
12/27/19 11:50:54 PM
#19:


Level 7
QB: Jameis Winston (TB)
RB: Aaron Jones (GB)
WR: Kenny Golladay (DET)

Tiebreaker L4: both +10pts
Green Bay @ Detroit
New England vs Miami

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MysteriousStan
12/28/19 8:29:32 AM
#20:


Stupid Seahawks ruining everything last week. Now I gotta go through this minefield of teams possibly resting starters. Yuck.

Level 8:
Ravens (+7.5)
Eagles (+1.5)
Chiefs (-2.5)
Cowboys (-4.5)
Packers (-6.5)
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SwiftyDC
12/28/19 8:52:58 AM
#21:


LEVEL 8:
COWBOYS (-4.5)
Saints (-6.5)
PATRIOTS (-9.5)
Packers (-6.5)
CHIEFS (-2.5)

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DpObliVion
12/28/19 11:06:16 PM
#22:


Level 7
QB: Ryan Tannehill
RB: Aaron Jones
WR: Michael Thomas

Tiebreakers:
Level 1: Patriots
Level 2: Bears
Level 3: Bears +1.5, Eagles -4.5

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HBJDubs
12/29/19 3:29:26 AM
#23:


Level 8: Chiefs (-2.5), Cowboys (-4.5), Bucs (+4.5), Packers (-6.5), Jaguars (+9.5)

Tiebreaker:

Level 1: Chiefs
Level 2: Jaguars
Level 3: 49ers (-3.5), Chiefs (-8.5)
Level 4: Chiefs/Chargers +10, Patriots/Dolphins +10
Level 5: Broncos/Raiders UNDER, Bills/Jets UNDER
Level 6: Jaguars (-2.5)

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WiggumFan267
12/29/19 4:29:32 AM
#24:


Level 7
QB Wilson
RB Barkley
WR M. Thomas

Level 6 TB: Eagles -10.5
Level 4 TB: Redskins +10.5, Eagles -4.5

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Runemistress
12/29/19 11:22:40 AM
#25:


Level 8
Bears +7.5
Saints -6.5
Packers -6.5
Chiefs -2.5
Rams +2.5

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thekitchensink
12/29/19 12:02:02 PM
#26:


going for a personal record of finishing on level 8...

Level 7
QB - Ryan Tannehill
RB - Nick Chubb
WR - Dallas Goedert

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theawesomestevr
12/29/19 12:24:30 PM
#27:


Level 7: QB - Rodgers, RB - Henry, WR - Kittle
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theawesomestevr
12/29/19 12:27:17 PM
#28:


TBS: Level 1: Patriots; Level 2: Jets.
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WickIebee
12/29/19 12:35:41 PM
#29:


I end the year on my new level (unless I advance) due to just once again my mistakes with spreads. Just feels so bad that I'm always the most confident where I'm the most wrong.

Level 4: Colts/Jaguars 10+
Patriots/Dolphins 10+

TB: Level 2: Ravens

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th3l3fty
12/29/19 12:46:20 PM
#30:


QB: D.Carr
RB: M.Sanders
WR: M.Thomas
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Arti
12/29/19 12:49:12 PM
#31:


Level 7
QB Tom Brady
RB Derrick Henry
WR Golden Tate

Tiebreakers:
Level 1: Chiefs
Level 2: Jets
Level 3: Jets (+1.5), Rams (-4.5)
Level 4: Cowboys/Skins 10+
Level 5: Eagles/Giants OVER, Colts/Jaguars UNDER
Level 6: Jets (+7.5)

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LiquidOshawott
12/29/19 12:51:09 PM
#32:


QB: Winston
RB: Aaron Jones
WR: Julio Jones

TB: Level 5. Saints/Panthers and Cowboys/Redskins both under

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th3l3fty
12/29/19 12:53:20 PM
#33:


TB:
Lv.6 CHI -4.5
Lv.5 PHI/NYG over 45.5, SF/SEA under 46.5
Lv.4 CHI +1.5, IND -3.5
Lv.2 CHI
Lv.1 DAL
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Evil_REmade
12/29/19 12:56:34 PM
#34:


LEVEL 5:

Colts @ JAGUARS OVER 43.5
BUCCANEERS v Falcons OVER 47.5

TIEBREAKER: (might as well)

Level 1: My Giants WIN

Thanks for another year!

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Seginustemple
12/29/19 12:58:46 PM
#35:


Level 5:
Saints/Panthers Over
Steelers/Ravens Over

no use for the tiebreaker now, I'm just disappointed in myself for getting stuck on 5 for most of the season
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Arti
12/29/19 4:01:39 PM
#36:


obviously my level 6 TB is actually Jets (-4.5), I was rushing to get everything finished

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Camden
12/29/19 4:29:00 PM
#37:


I'm not sure, but if I actually pass level 7 this week I think I've won? I believe everyone else has already failed level 8 and no one can catch my tiebreaker score at this point.

Haha, pass level 7...

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Arti
12/29/19 6:22:13 PM
#38:


I just passed level 7 with Tate's TD

don't give up!

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Paratroopa1
12/29/19 11:56:42 PM
#39:


LOL I hit on the Lynch TD but not on the Thomas TD fml
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WickIebee
12/30/19 8:18:20 PM
#40:


I'll post final results probably tomorrow. Haven't updated my stuff for evening/SNF games, and gonna be busy tonight. If not tomorrow, they should be done sometime in the early afternoon of New Years Day.

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WickIebee
01/01/20 2:28:20 PM
#41:


Results are in. HBJ had a very excellent effort, pushing an impressive 17 points out of his tiebreaker points, but alas, he finishes second as one man who anticipated this point had succeeded in 3 L6 tiebreakers in previous weeks. He put out a lot trying to get passed Level 7 and this week it paid off with picks of Jameis Winston (2 TDs and one Falcons TD, which doesn't actually count), Derrick Henry (his 3 TD performance), and Cooper Kupp (who caught one of Goff's 3 TD passes). Camden wasn't the only to pass Level 7, as Arti did too. But Camden was the one listed because well...

Final results
Level 8
Camden [18]
HBJDubs [17]
Arti [6]
MysteriousStan- Paid(*******)
Runemistress*-Paid(*****)
StifledSilence*- Paid(****)
SwiftyDC*-Paid(***)
Whiskey_Nick**

Level 7
Paratroopa1* [12]
Wiggumfan267 [12]
DpObliVion* [10]
KommunistKoala [10]
5tarscream [7]
Mewtwo59- Paid(***) [6]
foxhead84 [4]
th3l3fty [3]
theawesomestevr* [2]
ZeroSignal620 [1]
KingButz*- Paid(****)
Liquid Oshawott**** [0]
Sir Chris*
SpikeDragon***
Stripperiffic**
thekitchensink**

Level 6
Jukkie [3]
Dancedreamer**
Evil_REmade-Paid(****)
MZero11***
Seginustemple*****
turbopuns*- Paid(***)

Level 5
LadyVyxx* [2]
Ashethan*****
Cody11533**
crazyisgood***
Crescent-Moon**
davidponte****
FBike1**
pronouncemyname**
Ringworm**- Paid(***)
Xuxon****-Paid(***)

Level 4
Wicklebee-Paid(***) [2]
KCF0107** [1]
fortybelowsummer*-Paid(***)
HanOfTheNekos**
MegamanX*
TheKnightofNee******

Level 3
guffguy
kevwaffles**
KokoroAkechi**
Reg**
Scarechan**
Suprak the Stud
Vengeful_KBM*

Level 2
Eddv*
greengravy294
HessianPeel
junk_funk
MaxedOutRyu
Mccheyne
Meow1000*
MMXCalibur
WarThaNemesis2

@Camden wins it all! Congratulations.

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DpObliVion
01/03/20 8:27:24 AM
#42:


Congrats! And thanks again for running it this year, Wicklebee. Good job.

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MysteriousStan
01/03/20 9:06:41 AM
#43:


Despite being involved in pretty much every other football related thing on B8 this was the first year I did the Ladder Contest. I'd say it was an excellent first effort!
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WickIebee
01/03/20 1:15:44 PM
#44:


On a random note, Level 8 was the highest level obtained this year. The last time Level 8 was the highest, was the 2012 season. Despite having a new skip function, we didn't have many people getting enough TBs to skip the later levels and push higher. Plus Level 7 was just unlucky this year with some big names having harder times towards the end of the year (McCaffrey being the most failed pick, and Michael Thomas being picked pretty much every week and failing some people twice). Receiving TDs are just that much harder now that more teams are using more guys.

Then Level 8 pretty much everyone swept the easy picks, but one of those always had an upset in it. Might be a time to have a couple random weeks have two Tiebreaker questions, but regardless, that's a discussion for the results topic, which I'll make a bit later today.

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SpikeDragon
01/03/20 2:26:56 PM
#45:


Congrats. I always do this thing where I burn out toward the end of the contest but it was fun regardless

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Paratroopa1
01/04/20 9:00:54 AM
#46:


I really dislike level 7, TDs get spread around a lot and it's extremely hard to predict who's going to get them. And I failed level 7 twice because I went 1/1/1 and my QB failed to throw two TD passes - even in games where they otherwise performed well, the team just ran it in instead. It's such a crapshoot.
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WickIebee
01/08/20 8:00:30 PM
#47:


WickIebee posted...
Might be a time to have a couple random weeks have two Tiebreaker questions, but regardless, that's a discussion for the results topic, which I'll make a bit later today.

>5 days ago. Lol me. I'll try to post it tomorrow finally.

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