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IdiotMachine
12/24/19 2:02:33 AM
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Spoilers! Ye be warned.

*What's the point of this artificial 16 hour deadline to find this random ass planet?
*Why is there only two maps? Why not just one?
*What was the purpose of looking for the second map if Ben just destroys it anyway?
*A random ship can somehow get on the star destroyer because of some keycard, and that arises no questions from security on board (only send two troopers)?
*What's the point of Rey destroying Ben's ship when she goes back to Luke's planet, only for another ship to just happen to be there, and for Rey to go get the map from the destroyed ship that just happened to survive?
*How can a ship, designed for no atmosphere and is made of metal, be perfectly in working order while it was stored underwater for a century?
*What's with the complete 180 on Rey's lineage?
*Where did all these star destroyers come from? It is clear even the Emperor needed people to build these things before.
*Why are all these star destroyers just right next to each other, all primed ready for destruction?
*How many thousands of people are running all these ships?
*Why do these super advanced ships not have their own navigation system?
*Why is Rey so invincible, and able to heal other people? It ruins any sense of suspense.
*Finn finds out there are other storm troopers who have second thoughts........ but then goes on to kill thousands of them right after with no second thoughts. wat
*There are random star destroyers being destroyed on different planets at the end; did these star destroyers somehow get off the planet?
*What was the thing Finn wanted to tell Rey?
*What happened to the relationship between Finn and that Asian woman?

I'm sure there's more, but that's what I got so far.

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Gobstoppers12
12/24/19 2:05:33 AM
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Nitpicking: The Post

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SpaghettiCookie
12/24/19 2:17:57 AM
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The movies were directed by different people
first Jj Abrams
then Rian
then the third dropped out so JJ abrams got it back

he wanted Reys lineage to be a big exciting thing.
he also admitted to wanting episode 7 to mirror episode 4
which is why 7=4, 8 is unique, and 9 is very close to 6

and why they made Kylo die despite being the most compelling character, best actor, and having a much more interesting story as the struggling hero than making another character die to redeem themselves


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evil_zombie11
12/24/19 2:19:19 AM
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If you like this movie you have a low iq - RLM

ALSO NONE OF THAT MATTERS. Just watch the movie and feel.

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Bio1590
12/24/19 2:19:43 AM
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Jesus this is a bad topic
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CM_Ponch
12/24/19 2:20:05 AM
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Most of these are answered in the movie

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_BIueMonk
12/24/19 2:20:32 AM
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answer: who fucking cares baby yoda exists so all is good

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IdiotMachine
12/24/19 2:21:45 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Nitpicking: The Post
Nitpicking would be asking how that mask girl got out of a planet being destroyed, how can tie fighters keep up with the millennium falcon going light speed, how did Ben get off that water planet, etc.

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CelestialVoices
12/24/19 2:37:33 AM
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stop being so ungrateful and entitled and consume ur product u square
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cjsdowg
12/24/19 2:40:59 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...
*What was the thing Finn wanted to tell Rey?


I read online that it was that he was force sensitive, but narratively that just doesn't add up

Why wouldn't he tell Poe this,
Why would he tell Rey as they were dying.
Why would he not keep it from anyone.
This goes back to Poe. Why wouldn't he even tell them why they are about to die.


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Polycosm
12/24/19 2:51:09 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...
*What's the point of this artificial 16 hour deadline to find this random ass planet?
To add tension I guess? The plot reason is that they need time to take off.

*Why is there only two maps? Why not just one?
I don't see why this is an issue. Sith follow the rule of two; presumably, Kylo took Vader's wayfinder from the forest and Rey claimed Palpatine's wayfinder from the throne room. One was made for the Sith master, one for the apprentice.

*What was the purpose of looking for the second map if Ben just destroys it anyway?
Don't see why this needs explaining. That's just the antagonist thwarting the protagonist, creating conflict for the sake of having a climactic showdown and lightsaber duel.

*A random ship can somehow get on the star destroyer because of some keycard, and that arises no questions from security on board (only send two troopers)?
Yep, the keycard was explained, that's exactly what it does.

*What's the point of Rey destroying Ben's ship when she goes back to Luke's planet, only for another ship to just happen to be there, and for Rey to go get the map from the destroyed ship that just happened to survive?
The other ship is Luke's, and this is one of the things that was actually hinted at, handed off and followed-through from TLJ.

*How can a ship, designed for no atmosphere and is made of metal, be perfectly in working order while it was stored underwater for a century?
I dunno, why do the lasers make sound in space? It's sci-fi.

*What's with the complete 180 on Rey's lineage?
TFA suggested she was someone important. TLJ 180'd and ROS 180'd back to the beginning and finished what TFA started. You could explain it away as an Obi-Wan kind of half-truth, but I think it's just a result of disjointed leadership and poor planning.

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Polycosm
12/24/19 2:51:51 AM
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*Where did all these star destroyers come from? It is clear even the Emperor needed people to build these things before.
He's been amassing forces on Exogol for like 30 years. The meta reason though, again, is that there was no plan for the trilogy and ROS needed a villain for the final act after Kylo's redemption. Had to be Palpatine or Plagueis, and Plagueis would have taken too long to explain.

*Why are all these star destroyers just right next to each other, all primed ready for destruction?
Because they're launching from this planet hidden away in the unknown region and they need to be close to the navigation tower.

*How many thousands of people are running all these ships?
I don't think it's explained. Outside of Kylo's first visit to Exogol where you see aliens working in the Snoke-cloning lab, I'm not even sure those thousands of hooded Sith cultists have any kind of corporeal form.

*Why do these super advanced ships not have their own navigation system?
Navigation through the unknown region is shown to be extraordinarily difficult, requiring a wayfinder or special navigation tower.

*Why is Rey so invincible, and able to heal other people? It ruins any sense of suspense.
Disney is progressive but not progressive enough to maim a female hero. I think the healing scene at the end, where Kylo heals Rey, would have been more effective if she had taken some visible damage from fighting and killing Palpatine, but... oh well.

*Finn finds out there are other storm troopers who have second thoughts........ but then goes on to kill thousands of them right after with no second thoughts. wat
They made their choice.

*There are random star destroyers being destroyed on different planets at the end; did these star destroyers somehow get off the planet?
Yeah, that confused me too. Maybe I missed something, I dunno.

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Polycosm
12/24/19 2:52:29 AM
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*What was the thing Finn wanted to tell Rey?
He's force-sensitive.

*What happened to the relationship between Finn and that Asian woman?
JJ Jar-Jar'd Rose because he was trying to course-correct TLJ. Poor choice not to just let her go on the adventure, imho, with or without speaking lines.

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Freddie_Mercury
12/24/19 2:56:52 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...
*What was the thing Finn wanted to tell Rey?


they fly now

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IdiotMachine
12/24/19 2:57:05 AM
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Polycosm posted...

Huh... Thanks for actually taking the time to answer. A lot of the first several questions seemed more out of my frustration than anything; like after allllll that, the map gets destroyed? Bleh.

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2SweetforTurtle
12/24/19 3:05:55 AM
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The X-Wing complaint is stupid. Its Lukes and it hasnt been under water for more than a decade and a half, at best. Not a century.

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BalanceLost
12/24/19 3:09:59 AM
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The Star Destroyers being blown up above planets are regular First Order destroyers. The FO had been occupying more and more worlds after destroying the New Republics Government.

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