Board 8 > NFL Week 16 Discussion Topic

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davidponte posted...

The Bengals were down by 16 with 30 seconds on the clock, if my calculations are correct. That game is now going to OT.

Just saw this. That's almost inconceivable ineptitude.

That was sure an excrutiating game to watch end my season

Oh well~

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suddenly Kenyon Drake is the best RB in the league

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I don't have a dog in the fight and most OT rules are stupid but I continue to hate the TD on the 1st possession ends OT rule. There's zero reason the opponent shouldn't get a chance to match

Kenyan Drake has put my team all the way onto his back in the last two weeks. The fantasy title is now within reach. Possibly my greatest late season waiver add of all time.

The one run just put me from 75% to 90% on the projection.

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ShatteredElysium posted...

I don't have a dog in the fight and most OT rules are stupid but I continue to hate the TD on the 1st possession ends OT rule. There's zero reason the opponent shouldn't get a chance to match

this used to be the complaint before when any score ended the game and how it was unfair if a FG ended the game

always moving the goalposts

I feel like if your defense can't keep them out of the endzone on one drive then you deserve to lose

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LeonhartFour posted...

this used to be the complaint before when any score ended the game and how it was unfair if a FG ended the game

always moving the goalposts

I feel like if your defense can't keep them out of the endzone on one drive then you deserve to lose

Disagree. Why is the offense getting favored? Can you imagine if they said the defending team wins if the defense stops them on the first possession? It's no different.

ShatteredElysium posted...

Can you imagine if they said the defending team wins if the defense stops them on the first possession? It's no different.

Nah, it's completely different. Scoring a TD in a single drive is much more difficult than forcing a punt or a 4th down stop.

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LeonhartFour posted...

always moving the goalposts

This is the real solution
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LeonhartFour posted...

Nah, it's completely different. Scoring a TD in a single drive is much more difficult than forcing a punt or a 4th down stop.

When you are going to OT in a game that ends 35-35 I would argue that it is far harder for a team to get a stop than to get a TD.

and yet scoring a TD on the first drive of overtime isn't that common

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I think we can all agree that NFL OT is stupid

NCAA OT is also stupid but thats more controversial

Just do regulation ties
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So if it isn't that common it shouldn't be a problem to play another drive on the rare instances it happens.

Clearly they should just emulate soccer's solution and do a series of Oklahoma drills.

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Jakyl25 posted...

I think we can all agree that NFL OT is stupid

NCAA OT is also stupid but thats more controversial

Just do regulation ties

ties are the worst outcome

this is why shortening OT to 10 minutes was a bad decision

ShatteredElysium posted...

So if it isn't that common it shouldn't be a problem to play another drive on the rare instances it happens.

it's also not a problem to just end the game on the rare instances it happens

and college overtime is the best but I get why it wouldn't fly in the NFL

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If it goes to OT both teams should get a win that way no one gets upset about it,

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I'm fine with regulation ties for what it's worth

Removing phases of the game to get a result is garbage and that's what a TD on the first possession does. If both teams have awful defenses or really good offenses then saying you should just get a stop doesn't fly for me.

you know what's less controversial than OT being bad?

The Cowboys being bad

Reg posted...

you know what's less controversial than OT being bad?

The Cowboys being bad

it'll be my luck that the Cowboys will lose today and the Titans will find a way to lose to the Texans resting all their starters


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also I'm sure the rule will eventually change as more teams complain that it's unfair that both teams don't get to possess the ball just like they did with the old rule

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lol Titans going to the playoffs lol Steelers

ertyu0078 posted...

lol Titans going to the playoffs lol Steelers

we haven't clinched a playoff spot quite yet so don't get ahead of yourself

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Still projected to win my championship game but getting a little uneasy now as I have left so many points on the bench (Drake, Woods, Boyd) and I have this sinking feeling starters aren't going to do anything. I have Elliot, Ekeler and Sutton out there against only Cobb and I'm 18 points behind. I really want to be at least even by the time these games are over.

LeonhartFour posted...

it'll be my luck that the Cowboys will lose today and the Titans will find a way to lose to the Texans resting all their starters

Cowboys still win the division if they win next week and Eagles lose (what I'm predicting)

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Xuxon posted...

Cowboys still win the division if they win next week and Eagles lose (what I'm predicting)

which means the Eagles would have to lose to the Giants

but that could happen and Dallas would find a way to lose to Washington

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So if the Jags lose next week (and who am I kidding? We will!) that means if the Steelers and Titans both lose, then the Steelers make the playoffs. Whereas if we win, the Titans would make the playoffs. That makes me feel a little better!

ShadowYosuke posted...

So if the Jags lose next week (and who am I kidding? We will!) that means if the Steelers and Titans both lose, then the Steelers make the playoffs.

actually if the Raiders won this week and next it'd be them instead!

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I can't speak for everyone, but I'm sure at least some people thought the OT change at first was also dumb, it was just less dumb than the previous rules so we took what we could get.

I'm with shattered here, the current ot rules do not make for a fair game.
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I feel like people in general are less mad about the OT rules if the Patriots don't separately win and make a Superbowl thanks to them.

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i wouldn't say i'm mad about the rule, or that the Patriots have anything to do with it. i just think it's stupid.

now the upcoming MLB 3 batter minimum for relievers, that i am mad about.

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This is the ideal fantasy team. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

Crazy to think I'm winning a title with what should be an awful team that had zero absolute studs and legitimately no consistency from any player. Every single guy had multiple dud performances this year.

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I am currently projected to lose by 4.1 points.

The other dude got a +5 headstart due to higher playoff seeding. We have the same record and I have more points scored ( which is the tiebreaker) so I should have been the higher seed.

I have already told the GM I will be furious if I lose by less than 10 points.

Hopefully it sorts itself out and either I win or I lose by more than 10 so it wasn't a factor.

ShatteredElysium posted...

The other dude got a +5 headstart due to higher playoff seeding

what the fuck

ShatteredElysium posted...

We have the same record and I have more points scored ( which is the tiebreaker) so I should have been the higher seed.

what the fuck

In irrelevant news, I am 25+Adams vs Hill+Jones in my work consolation bracket. Yahoo says I'm projected to win by 10 and has me as a 2:1 favorite, but I ain't buying it

I'm up 45 points with Kelce left, and he has Aaron Jones and Allen Robinson. I'm projected to win by 32.

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So the Raiders actually still have a shot next week.

I... Kinda want to see that cluster happen.

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They should win the Super Bowl and have the parade in Vegas
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I'll allow it.

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1. The Raiders (7-8) are improbably still eligible for the playoffs. It's not impossible that they get in either. Oakland needed nine things to break its way in the final two weeks of the season. Five happened Sunday, requiring four specific outcomes in Week 17: Raiders over Broncos, Texans over Titans, Ravens over Steelers and Colts over Jaguars. It would create a four-team cluster with 8-8 records, and Oakland would prevail thanks to its Week 4 win over the Colts and a superior strength of victory percentage than the Steelers.

Seems improbable though.

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All of those teams would be favored though

Maybe not the Ravens if theyre resting Lamar
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FFDragon posted...

Seems improbable though.

I would pick all four of those things to happen at this point.
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Oh and the Texans are probably resting too I suppose
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I fully expect the RG3 show next week.

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Yeah, the Titans should be favored against the Texans unless the Chiefs leave the door open for them to get the 3 seed next week (and even then, they might not really care).

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Ok I checked a more reputable site for lines (one where you can actually place wagers). ESPN has fucked up early lines before

TEN -4
DEN -3.5
IND -3
No line yet for BAL/PIT

Wow no respect for the Raiders with their lives on the line
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according to fivethirtyeight it also seems to require any of the following:
Bears win tonight
Bears win next week
Dolphins lose next week

i assume that's due to strength of victory; Raiders beat the Bears and Steelers beat the Dolphins

Jakyl25 posted...

ESPN has the early lines

OAK -3.5
BAL -2.5
HOU -1
IND -1

So three are favored just not by much

i'm actually really surprised the Raiders are favored. i can't see that holding up by game day. also figured Colts would be favored by more than that.

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Then again, the other three games are early, so theyll know whether or not they can get in when they play

Which is kind of fascinating that it worked out that way
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Xuxon posted...

i'm actually really surprised the Raiders are favored. i can't see that holding up by game day. also figured Colts would be favored by more than that.

Your assumptions were correct. ESPN is bad
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Jakyl25 posted...

Ok I checked a more reputable site for lines (one where you can actually place wagers). ESPN has fucked up early lines before

TEN -4
DEN -3.5
IND -3
No line yet for BAL/PIT

Wow no respect for the Raiders with their lives on the line

ok yeah those lines make way more sense. i wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens end up favored even resting their starters.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Then again, the other three games are early, so theyll know whether or not they can get in when they play

Which is kind of fascinating that it worked out that way

Oh no now all 4 of those games are in the late slot
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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh no now all 4 of those games are in the late slot

well yeah that's what they do every year

any game with any potential playoff implications gets moved to the late afternoon window to avoid having a bunch of teams sit their players because they know they have nothing else to play for

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