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El Mexicano Texano
12/19/19 11:44:57 PM
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You guys really take this shit far. The critics hate it then you love it but if they like it then you hate it. @Veggeta_MAX was right.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/19/19 11:47:04 PM
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Critics care about how it is as a film.

Fans only care about how it reflects what they want the Star Wars movies to be.

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dave_is_slick
12/19/19 11:47:16 PM
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Just based on those confirmed leaks, I HIGHLY doubt that's an accurate audience score.

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Irony
12/19/19 11:48:12 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Critics care about how it is as a film.

Fans only care about how it reflects what they want the Star Wars movies to be.
Critics care about it as a film

Fans want to be entertained

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ledbowman
12/19/19 11:48:59 PM
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A lot of the internet has aggressively bad taste

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DeadSite
12/19/19 11:56:40 PM
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Veggeta_MAX
12/20/19 9:40:26 AM
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I'm always right

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RebelElite791
12/20/19 9:41:16 AM
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Suddenly critics matter again and audiences are irrelevant

dave_is_slick posted...
Just based on those confirmed leaks, I HIGHLY doubt that's an accurate audience score.
Lemme guess, Disney stopped paying critics and started paying fans? So fucking pathetic

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gna647
12/20/19 9:45:47 AM
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i thought the whole leia floating in space thing was fucking stupid

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lilORANG
12/20/19 9:46:14 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I'm always right

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LightHawKnight
12/20/19 9:49:37 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Just based on those confirmed leaks, I HIGHLY doubt that's an accurate audience score.

Why? Most reviews say it was a huge course correction changing what most fans hated about the last movie.

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AlisLandale
12/20/19 9:50:51 AM
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What I love about this is the chaos it creates. The narrative defending TLJ was that the haters simply review bombed it and were a vocal minority. But now the audience score shoots up. You can say "nerds love the shitty nostalgia", thereby validating user scores and admitting that people didn't like TLJ, or you can say "user scores don't matter", whereby you lose any argument of hypocrisy against TLJ's detractors.

And those same detractors who use user scores to trash on TLJ can either stand by them, thereby validating RoS as a good movie, or ignore them, and lose their evidence that audiences hated the movie.

It's a glorious shitshow worthy of the Star Wars fandom. <_<

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lilORANG
12/20/19 9:52:55 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...


Why? Most reviews say it was a huge course correction changing what most fans hated about the last movie.


Those reviews are moronic. People didn't hate TLJ because it wasn't what they expected. It's because it was a bas movie. TROS throwing passive aggressive jabs at TLJ doesn't fix anything, it just proves that there was never a plan for this trilogy.
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Veggeta_MAX
12/20/19 9:52:59 AM
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And then people wonder why the Star Wars community is the worst fandom of all.

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RebelElite791
12/20/19 9:55:11 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Those reviews are moronic. People didn't hate TLJ because it wasn't what they expected. It's because it was a bas movie. TROS throwing passive aggressive jabs at TLJ doesn't fix anything, it just proves that there was never a plan for this trilogy.
Have you actually seen TROS? Because I thought it built on TLJ and certainly didnt take jabs at it

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EndOfDiscOne
12/20/19 9:55:23 AM
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How the hell is the nerd score that high? I thought they were all ready to hate it.

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iPhone_7
12/20/19 9:59:40 AM
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Those audience scores are by trolls and people who watched an early screening. Today is the actual release date and its still morning. For ****s sake

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MachineJaipur
12/20/19 10:01:31 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
How the hell is the nerd score that high? I thought they were all ready to hate it.
CE/gamefaqs and Reddit are not representative of the general public.
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LightHawKnight
12/20/19 10:02:04 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Those audience scores are by trolls and people who watched an early screening. Today is the actual release date and its still morning. For ****s sake

You think people haven't seen the movie last night? The audience score wasn't even shown till this morning anyways.

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lilORANG
12/20/19 10:02:07 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...

Have you actually seen TROS? Because I thought it built on TLJ and certainly didn?t ?take jabs at it?


"a jedi's weapon deserves more respect"

Rey's family

Kylo not being the main baddie


The first scene of TROS just ignores what TLJ built up, the same way TLJ ignored what TFA built up. These movies have no cohesive story.
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iPhone_7
12/20/19 10:03:56 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
You think people haven't seen the movie last night? The audience score wasn't even shown till this morning anyways.
The audience score was up before this morning and I stated that there were early screenings.

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RebelElite791
12/20/19 10:05:08 AM
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lilORANG posted...
"a jedi's weapon deserves more respect"

Rey's family

Kylo not being the main baddie

The first scene of TROS just ignores what TLJ built up, the same way TLJ ignored what TFA built up. These movies have no cohesive story.
God forbid Luke make fun of himself
or kylo not know the actual truth of reys family
and please, Ben was always going to turn

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LostForest
12/20/19 10:05:42 AM
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lilORANG posted...
The first scene of TROS just ignores what TLJ built up, the same way TLJ ignored what TFA built up. These movies have no cohesive story.

This is actually pretty damn accurate.

TRoS was fine but not great. It felt like a really good fanfic.

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Southernfatman
12/20/19 10:07:30 AM
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I don't mind that people like the movies, but I do mind that if you don't you're apparently a virgin neckbeard who hates women and wanted Luke to be Goku or some shit like that.

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LightHawKnight
12/20/19 10:09:42 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
The audience score was up before this morning and I stated that there were early screenings.

It wasn't up when I checked at 8:30 am CST. Though I checked again when I saw this topic and it was up. Unless the site was glitched when I first checked.

Also showings at 12:00 am the day of release are not early screenings.

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iPhone_7
12/20/19 10:14:08 AM
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It was up.

LightHawKnight posted...
Also showings at 12:00 am the day of release are not early screenings.
Im not gonna split hairs over this.

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EndOfDiscOne
12/20/19 10:23:25 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
CE/gamefaqs and Reddit are not representative of the general public.
For something like this I would expect nerds to review bomb it

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Veggeta_MAX
12/20/19 10:26:10 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
CE/gamefaqs and Reddit are not representative of the general public.
Yes they are.

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DevsBro
12/20/19 10:28:38 AM
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How about watch it and make your own opinion

FFS CE

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creativerealms
12/20/19 10:30:03 AM
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They are giving it good scores because Critics don't like it. We are in the middle of "Critics suck culture."

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RebelElite791
12/20/19 10:33:41 AM
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creativerealms posted...
They are giving it good scores because Critics don't like it. We are in the middle of "Critics suck culture."
Critics suck only audience scores matter
a high audience score is only because critics suck

what

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friendbuddypal
12/20/19 10:34:36 AM
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creativerealms posted...
They are giving it good scores because Critics don't like it. We are in the middle of "Critics suck culture."
For sure the people who rushed out the door to see TROS as soon as possible all collectively pretended to like it to spite critics.

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MachineJaipur
12/20/19 10:37:32 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Yes they are.
If we are representative of the general public, we're all fucked and should pack the whole world up and try again
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Smashingpmkns
12/20/19 10:39:48 AM
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Holy shit Star Wars has the worst fanbase/haters of any franchise ever lol
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creativerealms
12/20/19 10:40:49 AM
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I was kidding of course.

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Veggeta_MAX
12/20/19 10:42:32 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
If we are representative of the general public, we're all fucked and should pack the whole world up and try again
I mean whenever anyone of you guys post something yall act like your opinion is the end of all opinions so...

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/20/19 10:45:38 AM
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creativerealms posted...
They are giving it good scores because Critics don't like it. We are in the middle of "Critics suck culture."
Disney paid the critics to give the movie bad reviews so that spiteful fans would promote it for them free of charge.

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DifferentialEquation
12/20/19 10:47:56 AM
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Here's the thing. At the time TLJ came out, people were under the misconception that the movie was for general audiences. Therefore everyone went to see it and a lot of people were disappointed and gave it bad reviews. The critics knew that it was a bad film and had to pretend to like it to balance out the negative audience scores. Fast forward two years later. There are no longer any misconceptions. We all know that the Star Wars movies are now for SJWs instead of a general audience. Since only the SJWs are in the audience, of course the audience score will be high enough that critics no longer have to make up for it.

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RebelElite791
12/20/19 10:48:02 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Disney paid the critics to give the movie bad reviews so that spiteful fans would promote it for them free of charge.


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Sada_Pop
12/20/19 10:56:54 AM
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DeadSite posted...
Nerds are so dumb


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MachineJaipur
12/20/19 11:01:19 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
yes, every criticism topic is hounded by people acting like fans are only upset because luke wasnt a god or their theories didnt pan out
to be fair, Star Wars theorycrafting was at a feverish peak at the release of TLJ. Everybody and their goddamned mother had a theory about Snoke.

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linid0t
12/20/19 11:17:58 AM
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ledbowman posted...
A lot of the internet has aggressively bad taste

Welcome to CE where this statement is true but we multiply it by 100
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dave_is_slick
12/20/19 1:35:20 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Suddenly critics matter again and audiences are irrelevant

Lemme guess, Disney stopped paying critics and started paying fans? So fucking pathetic
That is so far off the mark, I can't even say it's funny. But bitterness is all you have, I guess.

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Extreme_light
12/20/19 1:37:48 PM
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Critics and audience disagreeing? There's nothing new here.

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StealthRock
12/20/19 1:40:14 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Have you actually seen TROS? Because I thought it built on TLJ and certainly didnt take jabs at it
Built on what?

They just changes everything fans didnt like about TLJ.

It was an ok flick but it is not great by any means

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