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StealthRock
12/07/19 8:19:54 AM
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metallica846 posted...
Victim blaming again.

If a person is assaulted, you don't just assume they are lying. That's pretty fucked up.

Especially when the physical evidence is very apparent.
Lol at Zimmernan being a fucking victim. Thats where you and the other Zimmerman ass kissers fall short. Its one thing to talk legality or whatever,

Its another thing entirely to try and flip this shit into a poor little Zimmerman tragedy. Zimmerman tailed an innocent teenager because he probably has vigilante fantasies and ended up selecting a not so easy target, which is why his bitch ass got a little hurt. His fat ass can take a few punches from a skinny teenage boy. And he as wasnt about to die. If he was truly in mortal danger, did they admit him to the Hospital to monitor his damaged, almost dead brain?? Did he require rehab?

https://www.cnn.com/2012/05/16/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

"What we do know is on February 26, the ER personnel did not believe his injuries were significant enough for him to go to the hospital. They didn't even put a Band-Aid on his head. That's important."

Zimmerman made stupid decisions which have ended up costing a black teenager his life and subsequently his credibility, likeability, and his future. Fuck him. He aint no victim. His fatass is still alive and free with white supremacists protecting him. Trayvon is dead.

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AYCAMA
12/07/19 8:29:46 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Well if you're going to be despised, might as well be rich.

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StealthRock
12/07/19 9:26:08 AM
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metallica846 posted...
Well obviously the fight was cut short. You saw the pictures.

I'm done with you. You are set in stone.
Aww man guess im finished

Damn

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MudKip_Master
12/07/19 9:30:37 AM
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StealthRock posted...
Aww man guess im finished

Damn
Should have stood your ground better.
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StealthRock
12/07/19 9:32:28 AM
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MudKip_Master posted...
Should have stood your ground better.
Does that make me the real victim here?

I could loss my board cred

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MudKip_Master
12/07/19 9:35:38 AM
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You shouldn't have attacked him like that.
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marc55
12/07/19 9:37:22 AM
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metallica846 posted...
Victim blaming again.

If a person is assaulted, you don't just assume they are lying. That's pretty fucked up.

Especially when the physical evidence is very apparent.

physical evidence of the specific words zimmerman claims came out of trayvon mouth ? how does it work ?

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yemmy
12/07/19 9:41:32 AM
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This is a prime example of why you don't start a goddamn fist fight just because you notice some dude following you.

I about shot some fucking meth head one time because he thought I was following him in his car and he wanted to get tough in front of his 2 tweaker girlfriends and hop out at an intersection and try to punk me. Turns out we were just going the same way and I had Mr Glock 19 on me and he ended up looking like a punk.

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wheredayayo
12/07/19 10:57:09 AM
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StealthRock posted...
Lol at Zimmernan being a fucking victim. Thats where you and the other Zimmerman ass kissers fall short. Its one thing to talk legality or whatever,

Its another thing entirely to try and flip this shit into a poor little Zimmerman tragedy. Zimmerman tailed an innocent teenager because he probably has vigilante fantasies and ended up selecting a not so easy target, which is why his bitch ass got a little hurt. His fat ass can take a few punches from a skinny teenage boy. And he as wasnt about to die. If he was truly in mortal danger, did they admit him to the Hospital to monitor his damaged, almost dead brain?? Did he require rehab?

https://www.cnn.com/2012/05/16/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

"What we do know is on February 26, the ER personnel did not believe his injuries were significant enough for him to go to the hospital. They didn't even put a Band-Aid on his head. That's important."

Zimmerman made stupid decisions which have ended up costing a black teenager his life and subsequently his credibility, likeability, and his future. Fuck him. He aint no victim. His fatass is still alive and free with white supremacists protecting him. Trayvon is dead.


He was a victim and the punk teenager wanted to be a badass and ends up trying to act tough to the wrong person. Why bring up Trayvons race? That doesn't matter. You Trayvon ass kissers think violence is cool until keeping it real goes wrong. UR has already destroyed all you with facts and the fact that you keep dodging them is pretty funny and sad at the same time.
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UnfairRepresent
12/07/19 10:58:08 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

That pretty much sums up your entire position and it's fucking disgusting

Wut?

You think ignoring characte evidence is disgusting?

That's like a 101 of the justice system.

Are you saying it doesn't matter whether people break laws or not, it only matters if you believe they are subjectively good or bad people?

StealthRock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...

This is irrelevant

Character evidence isn't important

Zimmerman could spend every day nuking China and Trayvon still assaulted and tried to kill him in the street

Yet you and othera on here cant stop talking about how much of a supposed lack of character Travon has


False. I've not once talked about Trayvon's character and at several times have pointed out how irrelevant it is for both him and Zimmerman.

People like to bring up that he was a thief or always got into fights or was suspended from school or was a drug dealer and the reality is none of that is important.

The only factor that matters are the details of the night and the fact is he attacked and tried to murder someone in the street. The character himself and his victim have no bearing on that.

It doesn't matter one bit whether or not you consider Zimmerman or Trayvon to be good or bad people. What matters is Zimmerman was justified in using basic 101 self-defense against a man who attacked him in the street and tried to kill him.

marc55 posted...
if nobody heard trayvon say those words
zimmerman probably made that part up


Possible but also irrelevant.

The rest of the ironclad evidence you are very intentionally ignoring holds up and displays Trayvon as the aggressor but even if we ignore that too, since we (Well you people don't seem to) believe in a system of innocent until proven guilty, the defense of "Well we don't know what happened. Who can say!?" means that Zimmerman is still innocent of any charge.

I mean that guy earlier who literaly back to back argued that it is impossible to know what happened and Zimmerman should be in prison for murder is displaying fucking horrifying logic.

StealthRock posted...

Zimmerman made stupid decisions which have ended up costing a black teenager his life and subsequently his credibility, likeability, and his future.

Victim blaming.

Zimmerman's completely legal "Decisions" are no justification for someone to attack and try to kill you in the street.

You would not say "Sarah made stupid decisions wearing that dress that ended up costing her virginity when that guy raped her." you would be pissed at the rapist.

StealthRock posted...
Zimmerman tailed an innocent teenager because he probably has vigilante fantasies


Or he walked down one very short public path because of the crooks that had got away with robberies at night in his gated community 4 times previously because the police got there late and had no idea where the crooks had gone.

But again, if you actually followed the case you would know that and wouldn't be making up motivations to try and discredit someone's character simply because you have no retort to the actual evidence.

and ended up selecting a not so easy target, which is why his bitch ass got a little hurt. His fat ass can take a few punches from a skinny teenage boy. And he as wasnt about to die. If he was truly in mortal danger, did they admit him to the Hospital to monitor his damaged, almost dead brain?? Did he require rehab?


"HE didn't die after defending himself therefore he was in no danger of being killed or hurt" is such a stupid point it feels like a parody where you are intentionally presenting the worst possible arguments you can think of.
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meralonne
12/07/19 11:09:02 AM
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This discussion should shock me, but in light of our current political and social climate, it does not surprise me one bit.

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Taharqa_
12/07/19 11:09:39 AM
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Fuck Zimmerman and his defenders.

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meralonne
12/07/19 11:14:52 AM
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metallica846 posted...
Man this went down in 2012 and it was the same shit show. Maybe even worse since it was in the news 24/7 for a bit and with all the marches and celebrities wearing hoodies.

It certainly was a shitshow, but I doubt we share that opinion for the same reasons.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/07/19 11:22:22 AM
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meralonne posted...
This discussion should shock me, but in light of our current political and social climate, it does not surprise me one bit.
I'm not shocked in the slightest, but I have the Zimmerman defenders appropriately tagged.

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Bluebomber182
12/07/19 11:23:06 AM
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9 pages of UR shitposting
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UnfairRepresent
12/07/19 11:27:58 AM
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Again

no retort
no argument

Just insults and ignoring blatant undeniable facts

Religion
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Hanky_Bannister
12/07/19 11:29:05 AM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
9 pages of UR shitposting

Imagine being him and wasting that time and energy
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meralonne
12/07/19 12:26:53 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Religion

To which religion do you refer?

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UnfairRepresent
12/07/19 1:59:18 PM
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meralonne posted...


To which religion do you refer?

All of them. Same religious philosophy

Ignore all facts
Ignore evidence
Take s narrative that brings you pleasure on faith
Insult and berate everyone else with insults while actively ruining peoples lives

The same method of insults, degradation , lies, goalposts moving, not having any actual retorts or arguments here is on par with evolution deniers, homophobia, flat earth society

People calling for guilty until proven innocent and intentionally actively rejecting basic evidence

Its religion
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UnfairRepresent
12/07/19 2:39:55 PM
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Conflict posted...
He's basically spent 3 days spamming the same stupidity in spite of people thrashing him in debate

Name one point I made that was debated.

all you did and are doing was throw insults
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Umbreon
12/07/19 2:46:02 PM
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You know UR beat all of y'all for getting so many responses right?

(And the people responding apparently aren't marking)

He knows he's wrong, and so does anyone defending him. The point isn't to be right, the point is to get people to argue over stupid bullshit.

Most of you are grown adults.


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yemmy
12/07/19 9:31:32 PM
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Coulda woulda shoulda lotta hypotheticals when you a fake gangsta.. I coulda been Tony Montana doesn't change the fact Trayvon got his card pulled by a Latin King i don't write the street rules I just live them act up and u might get shot

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Tony_Biggie_Pun
12/07/19 9:58:09 PM
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A Latin King that's broke af and a woman beater good to see who your idols are clown
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Bishop9800
12/07/19 11:22:12 PM
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yemmy posted...
Tony Montana doesn't change the fact Trayvon got his card pulled by a Latin King


So who was the Latin King?

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marc55
12/08/19 12:41:56 AM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
A Latin King that's broke af and a woman beater good to see who your idols are clown
first time i read someone saying zimmerman is a member of that gang

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ModLogic
12/08/19 12:46:51 AM
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yemmy posted...
This is a prime example of why you don't start a goddamn fist fight just because you notice some dude following you.
what else do when feel "threatened"? run? call cops?

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MC_BatCommander
12/08/19 5:52:12 AM
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ModLogic posted...
what else do when feel "threatened"? run? call cops?

Yes, both of those things. Martin had pretty easily invaded Zimmerman before. If a stranger was following me my first instinct would not be to attempt to bash their skull in.

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Tony_Biggie_Pun
12/08/19 7:37:14 AM
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marc55 posted...
first time i read someone saying zimmerman is a member of that gang

I think he was just using it as a play on words. He's hype that his "Latin King" killed Trayvon.
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Rika_Furude
12/08/19 8:19:36 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Yes, both of those things. Martin had pretty easily invaded Zimmerman before. If a stranger was following me my first instinct would not be to attempt to bash their skull in.
what if they approached you with their weapon drawn after being noticed for stalking? would your fight or flight instincts not kick in?

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ledbowman
12/08/19 9:36:54 AM
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yemmy posted...
Coulda woulda shoulda lotta hypotheticals when you a fake gangsta.. I coulda been Tony Montana doesn't change the fact Trayvon got his card pulled by a Latin King i don't write the street rules I just live them act up and u might get shot

Cringe

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Darklit_Minuet
12/08/19 10:43:33 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Are you saying it doesn't matter whether people break laws or not, it only matters if you believe they are subjectively good or bad people?
Yes. Laws are subjective. Some are good, some are bad. There are good criminals and bad law-abiding people. I don't care if you're following the letter of the law if you're a terrible person, and I don't mind if you're breaking bad laws such as drug prohibition.

Your black and white view of the world (and this case) is frightful.
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meralonne
12/08/19 11:05:16 AM
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Laws are subjective.



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Darklit_Minuet
12/08/19 11:35:39 AM
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meralonne posted...
Laws are subjective.

They're wholly up to the police to enforce.

Before we legalized marijuana here, cops wouldn't arrest you for it despite technically being against the law. Because prohibition was a bad law that should not be enforced, and the cops realized that.
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StealthRock
12/08/19 11:57:20 AM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
12/08/19 12:12:49 PM
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The fact that Zimmerman continues to agress against this family shows what he's about
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yemmy
12/08/19 12:16:46 PM
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Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
I think he was just using it as a play on words. He's hype that his "Latin King" killed Trayvon.

Lol that was a Sam Hyde tweet lol

It is good to see we are still making 500 topics about Trayvon like 7 years later.

I honestly thought posting that would get me warned but you soyboys took it seriously lol

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KStateKing17
12/08/19 1:30:15 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
what if they approached you with their weapon drawn after being noticed for stalking? would your fight or flight instincts not kick in?
Naturally I wouldn't want a potential threat to know where I live. There was a woman that I encountered on the sidewalk while my car was getting serviced. We were on opposite sides of the street, but then I turned around and went across near where she was because she happened to be near a bbq restaurant I wanted to try. Before I even got close she asked "can I help you"? I explained to her what I was doing and we just went on our way. I could understand her concern for a 240lb man potentially following her. Why wouldn't a person be on guard after a strange situation like that?

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RickyTheBAWSE
12/08/19 1:44:37 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
meralonne posted...
Laws are subjective.

They're wholly up to the police to enforce.

Before we legalized marijuana here, cops wouldn't arrest you for it despite technically being against the law. Because prohibition was a bad law that should not be enforced, and the cops realized that.


doesn't it suck having to point out the obvious only to have to further elaborate on the obvious because somebody chose not to do the critical thinking?

we all know laws come and go based on how it benefits the powers that be, and the police have always decided whether or not they'll enforce a law depending on the mood, the hassle and whatever else.

the word arbitrary often comes up with law enforcement. whether it be cops or judges.
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meralonne
12/08/19 5:16:41 PM
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I chose not to engage in the bullshit line of thinking, not to disengage in the act of critical thought. But, hey... whatever forwards your agenda.

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Shablagoo
12/08/19 5:18:55 PM
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Yeah, even if you believe that laws = morality (a laughably childish and ignorant position), its literally written into our law that enforcers should live by its spirit rather than its letter.

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Machete
12/08/19 5:26:00 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
They're wholly up to the police to enforce.

Before we legalized marijuana here, cops wouldn't arrest you for it despite technically being against the law. Because prohibition was a bad law that should not be enforced, and the cops realized that.

This. A friend of mine and I were smoking and the cops literally walked in on us in the act, like my buddy opened his door while still taking a hit and it was cops. They laughed and made jokes about the expression on his face, then left without even scolding us for it (they showed up looking for my friend's former roommate who had moved out and he told them as much as he knew about him for the sake of cooperation). It had not been legal here at the time but is now.

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Philosopher_X
12/08/19 7:55:31 PM
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Machete posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
They're wholly up to the police to enforce.

Before we legalized marijuana here, cops wouldn't arrest you for it despite technically being against the law. Because prohibition was a bad law that should not be enforced, and the cops realized that.

This. A friend of mine and I were smoking and the cops literally walked in on us in the act, like my buddy opened his door while still taking a hit and it was cops. They laughed and made jokes about the expression on his face, then left without even scolding us for it (they showed up looking for my friend's former roommate who had moved out and he told them as much as he knew about him for the sake of cooperation). It had not been legal here at the time but is now.


I occasionally smoke with cops. Not random cops... The same ones, lol.
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cjsdowg
12/09/19 12:04:24 AM
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yemmy posted...
This is a prime example of why you don't start a goddamn fist fight just because you notice some dude following you.

Yet the person who says martin started the fight lied time after time.

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