Poll of the Day > hmm so now they edited the Star Wars Han vs Greedo scene even more on Disney+

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://youtu.be/mH19gKo7W7w

now Greedo says Maklunky! before getting shot for some reason

why

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to piss people off
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Surprised it took you this long to hear about it. George Lucas made this final edit to the movie apparently just before he sold off the company to Disney. Disney just went ahead and used the most recent print, which happened to have never have been seen before.

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lmao, I haven't really watched the OG trilogy but the way Hans head moves in the upgraded ones is hilarious, who thought that looked better lulz.
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It's funny how much this scene has changed. As someone who read the book, it makes me forget which variation happened in the book.
How all this evolved from Han being the only one who shot is kind of silly. Is the scene that much character defining?

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The change is silly and unnecessary, but the resulting "Maclunkey!" meme is pretty funny, IMO.
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pedro45 posted...

It's funny how much this scene has changed. As someone who read the book, it makes me forget which variation happened in the book.
How all this evolved from Han being the only one who shot is kind of silly. Is the scene that much character defining?

I don't think so, but much of the fanbase seems to think otherwise >_>
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The Star Wars fan base is one of the most whiny / complainy fanbases in history

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This is so last week
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Holy shit those blaster bolts look TERRIBLE. They're literally red lines which don't affect anything.
And in the shot immediately afterwards, you can quite clearly see that Greedo's shot didn't damage the wall in any capacity.

Anyway, what's more interesting about the new edit is that Han and Greedo shoot at the SAME time, instead of Greedo shooting and then Han shooting immediately afterwards.
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this meme has got to stop
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Caroniver posted...

Anyway, what's more interesting about the new edit is that Han and Greedo shoot at the SAME time, instead of Greedo shooting and then Han shooting immediately afterwards.

Yaknow, I could almost agree with that edit: If they fire at the same time it's basically luck that either of them live... which follows with the "In my experience there's no such thing as luck" with Obiwan
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aDirtyShisno posted...

Surprised it took you this long to hear about it. George Lucas made this final edit to the movie apparently just before he sold off the company to Disney. Disney just went ahead and used the most recent print, which happened to have never have been seen before.

Basically it's taking one final, messy dump in a bathroom before selling the house and the new owners airBnbing it without cleaning first >_>
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darcandkharg31 posted...

but the way Hans head moves in the upgraded ones is hilarious, who thought that looked better lulz.

An insane old billionaire.



FrozenBananas posted...

The Star Wars fan base is one of the most whiny / complainy fanbases in history

Clearly, you aren't actually aware of or are familiar with all that many fanbases.
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pedro45 posted...

It's funny how much this scene has changed. As someone who read the book, it makes me forget which variation happened in the book.
How all this evolved from Han being the only one who shot is kind of silly. Is the scene that much character defining?

Kind of yeah. The whole scene is supposed to establish Hans character. From what
he does for a living, to the subtle brag that even he gets boarded which implies he is so good that it would be hard to believe, and to top it all off just how ruthless he can be by shooting first.

He isnt a hero and is most likely out for only himself.

Which is what makes him showing up at the raid on the Death Star more significant. Its completely out of character for Han, yet there he is.

That being said... it doesnt change a whole lot. If they both shoot at the same
time it amounts to the same if only he shot.

The more control that Lucas had over the films, the worse they were

Thats why the prequels are so awful and so many of the added changes to the original trilogy add nothing of value
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FrozenBananas posted...

The Star Wars fan base is one of the most whiny / complainy fanbases in history

You would be too if your favorite franchise has been getting fucked for like 3 decades
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Unit7 posted...

pedro45 posted...

It's funny how much this scene has changed. As someone who read the book, it makes me forget which variation happened in the book.
How all this evolved from Han being the only one who shot is kind of silly. Is the scene that much character defining?

Kind of yeah. The whole scene is supposed to establish Hans character. From what
he does for a living, to the subtle brag that even he gets boarded which implies he is so good that it would be hard to believe, and to top it all off just how ruthless he can be by shooting first.

He isnt a hero and is most likely out for only himself.

Which is what makes him showing up at the raid on the Death Star more significant. Its completely out of character for Han, yet there he is.

That being said... it doesnt change a whole lot. If they both shoot at the same
time it amounts to the same if only he shot.

or han baited greedo into shooting, and dodged because he knew the shot was coming... then shot greedo
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I've read George Lucus actually destroyed all methods of reprinting the original version of Star Wars to make sure people could only continue to distribute his "enhanced" versions, but I don't know if this is true.
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DarkKirby2500 posted...

I've read George Lucus actually destroyed all methods of reprinting the original version of Star Wars to make sure people could only continue to distribute his "enhanced" versions, but I don't know if this is true.

This is unlikely because there's by a copylaw version when they made the THX enhanced versions
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But if you guys ironically like the Lucas edits....

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Watch Power Rangers remastered. Your balls will explode into a thousand tiny orgasms
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In my opinion, Han still shot first and Boba Fett lived. Dont give a shit what anyone says. Im too old to change.
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quigonzel posted...

One of the only things he changed about the OT that I actually liked was having Jango Fett's actor redubbing Boba Fett's dialogue. If only for continuity purposes.

I didn't even like that.

It's one thing to say that the clones sound and talk exactly like Jango, because they were raised in a lab and programmed to have his skills, so you can say they were full identical copies. But Boba was an unaltered clone that was eventually forced to grow up on his own... meaning he had a different life, different life experiences, and different physical stresses and influences on his body. At the very least his accent shouldn't be identical (because he lived an entirely different life and interacted with different people in different places), but even beyond that, there's no reason why his voice couldn't sound at least somewhat different (maybe Boba smoke and drank more than Jango did, maybe he suffered a throat wound in a fight, maybe he's just using some kind of voice distorter in his helmet).

And he has like three lines in the entire trilogy, so who gives a fuck what he sounds like (someone once pointed out you can put literally everything he says in the movies into a single tweet)?

But I also find the whole Jango/Boba clone thing stupid anyway, so it's hard to get worked up over something that I've already kind of given up on as a premise.

The ONE Special Edition edit Lucas made that I thought actually worked (even if I still found it kind of unnecessary) is when they redid the scene with the Emperor in Empire to be Ian McDiarmid instead of Clive Revill. Almost everything else was either more or less pointless (like putting dewbacks in the background of a scene which was fine as-is), or outright bad (the whole Han/Greedo thing, the musical number in Jabba's palace, etc).

I MIGHT be willing to accept that replacing the Yub-Nub song from the end of RotJ (which we all made fun of for 20 years) with a more low-key instrumental was a good move, but the overall effect was kind of lame, and tied into the stupid "Oh, Anakin's ghost is Hayden Christensen now" thing, so I see it as an overall negative.
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

In my opinion, Han still shot first and Boba Fett lived. Dont give a shit what anyone says. Im too old to change.

thinking boba lived is change
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

In my opinion, Han still shot first and Boba Fett lived. Dont give a shit what anyone says. Im too old to change.

thinking boba lived is change

No its not. They never said one way or another.
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

No its not. They never said one way or another.

It's kind of implied, in that it belches almost immediately after swallowing him (even if that makes no sense in context). That's basically movie shorthand for saying "Yep, he ded." The Special Edition version actually makes it worse, because Lucas adds the stupid extra head that pokes out and grabs him.

It was the EU that pushed the idea that he survived/escaped. But that's no longer canon. Though I can only assume Disney will absolutely bring him back at some point in some way anyway, because $$$.

Realistically, though, it seems like he'd be screwed. His jetpack is broken, his grappling hook has been cut, his gun is gone, and he's going to be swimming in acid (when, as far as we know, his armor isn't watertight/acid-proof). Without an external air supply (which we have no evidence he has) he'd suffocate rather quickly, and he can't really cut his way out through the side because he'd still be under tons and tons of sand.

So he either needs to somehow kill it from the inside and immediately climb back out the mouth as quickly as possible, or somehow immediately repair his jetpack (without tools or supplies) and try to jet back up the throat. Either of which seems entirely ridiculous.
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He could still fuck his way out
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

In my opinion, Han still shot first and Boba Fett lived. Dont give a shit what anyone says. Im too old to change.

thinking boba lived is change

No its not. They never said one way or another.

audio commentary
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

audio commentary

Non-canon.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

No its not. They never said one way or another.

It's kind of implied, in that it belches almost immediately after swallowing him (even if that makes no sense in context). That's basically movie shorthand for saying "Yep, he ded." The Special Edition version actually makes it worse, because Lucas adds the stupid extra head that pokes out and grabs him.

It was the EU that pushed the idea that he survived/escaped. But that's no longer canon. Though I can only assume Disney will absolutely bring him back at some point in some way anyway, because $$$.

Realistically, though, it seems like he'd be screwed. His jetpack is broken, his grappling hook has been cut, his gun is gone, and he's going to be swimming in acid (when, as far as we know, his armor isn't watertight/acid-proof). Without an external air supply (which we have no evidence he has) he'd suffocate rather quickly, and he can't really cut his way out through the side because he'd still be under tons and tons of sand.

So he either needs to somehow kill it from the inside and immediately climb back out the mouth as quickly as possible, or somehow immediately repair his jetpack (without tools or supplies) and try to jet back up the throat. Either of which seems entirely ridiculous.

Its canon that a guy came back after being cut completely in half, what can a freaking burping sand pit do to someone?
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Its canon that a guy came back after being cut completely in half, what can a freaking burping sand pit do to someone?

Digest him slowly over a thousand years, until he finds a new definition of pain and suffering. Weren't you paying attention?
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Its canon that a guy came back after being cut completely in half, what can a freaking burping sand pit do to someone?

This is a very valid point.
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Next you'll tell me it's ridiculous that comic book characters come back from the dead too
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Its canon that a guy came back after being cut completely in half, what can a freaking burping sand pit do to someone?

Digest him slowly over a thousand years, until he finds a new definition of pain and suffering. Weren't you paying attention?

So is he dying fairly quickly due to lack of oxygen or somehow being kept alive for a thousand years so he can suffer

Make up your mind
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

audio commentary

Non-canon.

george lucas is non-canon?
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