Board 8 > X-Men Draft Round 2: Blue Division

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Rules:

1) Players are divided into two divisions. Each round, players will face one opponent in two categories. These categories are: "Fight" and "Pitch".
2) "Fight" matches should be voted on with the following criteria: "Who would win in a fight?"
-Characters are expected to have the abilities (and limitations) from their last living appearance.
-All fights will take place on a habitable uncolonized moon of Saturn where there is a temperate climate, water, air, flora, fauna, etc.
-Teams are kept in an isolated, impenetrable chamber prior to the beginning of conflict and are unaware of their opponents until the fight begins.
-The only directive supplied to these teams is that they must defeat their opponents. If the do not attempt to do so, Earth will be destroyed.
-Voters should consider the potential conflicts within teams as a factor (can characters with negative relationships work together), as well as the intelligence of the characters, resourcefulness, etc.
3) "Pitch" matches should be voted on with the following criteria: "Which pitch would make a better series?"
-All pitches must feature rosters in the Marvel Universe (616). No alternate realities or future skips, etc. It must take place alongside the rest of Marvel continuity.
-Voters should consider team name, roster, cohesiveness, quality of concept, and whether the team fits with the concept, among any other criteria they wish to consider.
-Voters should NOT consider whether a dead character is suddenly alive in this pitch. Voters SHOULD consider other aspects of team status; if characters would make sense working together, if characters have abilities that are mutually exclusive, etc.
-Pitches should be one paragraph (No more than two).
-Players can rewrite/rework their pitches between each round.
4) Anyone who is not involved in a specific match can vote for either team in either category. The player with the most votes in one of the categories will get a win in said category.
5) After each player has faced seven opponents, the players with the best "Fight" records in each division will face off and the players with the best "Pitch" records will face off.
6) Rosters each week will be made up ONLY of 6 members of the team. Every character must be active against at least three distinct opponents. Every character must also be inactive against at least three distinct opponents.
9) Between rounds, players may make one-for-one trades with any other player.
10) Rosters must always house exactly ten members.
11) You have 72 hours to vote.

Rosters:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oMXJ7yV_srLGwN7WBO1YgGAIzobC2ZgHohGI5jz5y-E/edit?usp=sharing

Quick Pick Form (Bold your Choices):
Fight
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv
Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv

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Shaduln vs. NBIceman

AmazonX
After helping to rescue Danielle Moonstar, Hippolyta founded a new group of female heroes with Moonstar as the leader to defend against the Doommaidens. After defeating the Doommaidens, Hippolyta left Moonstar to continue leading AmazonX to face threats to the peace.

Fight Lineup:
Moonstar
Captain Britain
Dagger
Dazzler
Pixie
Blindfold

X-trinsic
When an uncharacteristically humble Namor, reeling from the consequences of his war with the surface world, makes a pilgrimage to the newly legitimized Krakoa as a mutant-Atlantean ambassador seeking good-faith inroads of allyship between two long-persecuted peoples, the Quiet Council is understandably wary. Their compromise to his request for manpower in helping to get Atlantis back on its feet is to send him a team made up of former enemies, problem children, others who volunteer for personal reasons, and one or two strays that, frankly, no one really wants around. Their further contingencies are that Namor be amenable to the occasional sensitive side job that would otherwise be unbecoming for a respectable country to handle should such occasions arise (literal WET-works, in this case), and that their involvement with each other be kept secret until such time that he's no longer persona non grata to many.

Namor agrees, even promising to personally subdue any team member that gets out of hand. That's all what he wanted anyway, because as it happens, the Council's suspicion may not have been misplaced. The world believes the Sub-Mariner a war criminal now, but as far as he's concerned, the true blame for his actions lies squarely on the shoulders of Charles Xavier, a man unfit to be a leader of mutantkind in any capacity. And now that Namor's been provided with an unstable and unpredictable combination of malcontents, schemers, and impressionable young minds, not to mention the questionably sane Spiral who he somehow recruited all on his own, there may come a day when the fledgling nation of Krakoa discovers whether the devil they know is truly preferable to the one they don't.

Fight Lineup:
Aurora
Boom-Boom
Lady Mastermind
Namor
Primal
Spiral


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Snake vs. Mega Mana

X-MORTIS
If Fantomex has returned from the Astral Plane, that could only mean one thing: danger is on the horizon. Branded with a mysterious symbol, Fantomex discovers 6 other mutants also share the same markings as he. While Glob Herman, Marrow, and Shark-Girl are more than eager to step away from the recent mundanities of life on Krakoa, the long-retired couple of Wicked & Freakshow want little part of what Fantomex is spewing. And don't even get us started with Lifeguard! But, as the threat of the Shadow King begins to reemerge, paranormal events start occurring world-wide, and mutations start to go haywire, Fantomex is able to spur the marked mutants into action with a little assistance from the guiding hands of experienced mentors Strong Guy and a matured Broo. What do their markings mean? Why did it target them? And could a certain reptillian devil really be the key to putting an end to all this madness? In this story that's part Hellblazer and part Cronenberg, X-MORTIS examines the realities of living with physical mutations, being comfortable with your body image, and the struggles of keeping your promise to be a better person and become a hero worth remembering.

Fight Lineup:
Fantomex (Charlie-Custer 7)
Wicked
Marrow (Sarah)
Strong Guy (Guido Carosella)
Freakshow
Broo

Future of X
House of X and Powers of X led everything to today, but is the future really certain?

Future of X's first mission brought them to the overwhelmed hellscape known as Limbo. Cable and company blasted their way through the demonic dead and escape unscathed. The only clue to how this nightmare scenario began pointing to the last days of the Jean Grey School.

Fight Lineup:
Shatterstar (Gaveedra Russell)
Daken (Akihiro)
Widget (Kate Rapustin)
Genesis (Evan Sabahnur)
Prodigy (David Alleyne)
Shard (Shard Bishop)


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Scare vs. Lopen

New eXperiments

Picking up a security shift for a friend, Puck feels things are a bit fishy and ends up digging deeper into where he is supposed to be keeping an eye on. What he discovers however is several mutants being held in what looks like medical holding cells. One of whom he recognizes as Deadpool. Deadpool signals for help and Puck assists him and the other mutants in escaping. We learn that the facility was looking to create a new type of mutant and that they have been working on new DNA and cloning techniques. Deadpool reveals that he was captured as he was trying to free Wolverine from a different, similar type of facility and he had been looking into this for a short while.

As they go along recovering the rest of their squad and finding out more information about what is really going on, it smells a lot like a ghost from Wolverine and Deadpools past. Stryker, however, is nowhere to be seen or heard. Who is behind this and what did they get from their research? What new mutants are running around? Clones of several of the group have been put into leadership roles in other mutant teams and needs to be addressed along the way. Its up to the eXperiments to tackle.

Fight Lineup:
Deadpool
Warlock
Quicksilver
Polaris
Karma
Anole

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RetroaXtive
Bishop arrives from the DARK FUTURE, in an attempt to disband the X-Men, as all he knows coming in is that they were responsible for the assassination of Senator Kelly, which snowballed into the eradication of mutantkind. He knows this isn't plausible to do alone, but also that sharing his story with too many could cause unforeseen problems in the future-- he believes a tactical strike rather than brute force makes the most sense, and recruits Domino, a mercenary, to help him in this endeavor. He tells her of his story in order to justify an assassination mission on the leadership roles of the X-Men. She believes him and decides to work with him. After some planning, Bishop and Domino choose their spot, attacking Professor Xavier and Jean Grey and knocking them comatose during a battle between the X-Men and Magneto's brotherhood, earning them the ire of a team of X-Men. But Bishop's time travel device is damaged in the battle, meaning he cannot be sure he succeeded in changing the future just yet as he remains stuck in the past. Magneto attempts to make him an ally after the battling, and realizes he really is from the future as he describes a plot he and Mystique were hatching but had not started yet. Rather than simply returning the future to one where Mutantkind is not eradicated by not eliminating Senator Kelly, however, Magneto would rather attempt to manipulate the future for mutant supremacy, and with the aid of Mystique subtly attempts to manipulate Bishop's goals in a way that would facilitate this, realizing that simply planning with intent makes changes to the future a reality to Bishop.

Beast, not directly aligned with the team and still officially an X-Man, does not agree with his team's hot blooded reaction to Bishop's attack, and believes evidence suggests Bishop is likely from the future and did what he did for a reason. Rather than attempting to convince his team they are misguided, he seeks out Bishop in secret, and after some dialogue, believes that simply providing Bishop with inside information about the current state of the X-Men from time to time and allowing him to act with this knowledge in mind would be best the best way to aid Bishop in making the future better. Doctor Nemesis, with his specialization in time travel, is recruited to try and repair/replicate Bishop's Time Travel device. Deathlok Prime is brought in to help decide optimal courses of action with his probability calculator. Others are mostly muscle chosen by Magneto, though Whedon's law background opens some alternate approaches for him to attempt to manipulate things to further his goals. The dynamic is Bishop and Magneto are both trying to 'fix' the future but with Magneto trying to subtly manipulate things into a heavier skew towards mutants/their own gains, which causes strange interactions with Domino in particular whose luck ability causes many of these plots to go awry as her goals are more in line with Bishop directly and as such good luck for her is ultimately achieved in the plots failing. A hot blooded X-Men team without the cooler heads of Xavier and Jean to keep them in check, meanwhile, act as the antagonists. With all the evidence needed at his fingertips, can Bishop determine Magneto's true motivations and overcome them, or perhaps even find a way to work with Magneto directly to create an even better future for mutants and humans alike? Time will tell.

Fight Lineup:
Mystique
Dr Nemesis
Domino
Deathlok Prime
Firefist
Rockslide


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MegaManX vs. Eddv

Otherworld X
When the thought to be retired Jamie Madrox (Multiple Man) falls out of Magik's portal to Limbo screaming about the dead are coming right before dying himself! Magik and New Mutant friends Warpath, Magma and Rictor enter Limbo prepared for the worst!

They find a very surprising sight of Dark Beast looking over a horizon of portals. Where are these portals coming from? Dark Beast throws a list at Magik demanding they find a strange group of misfit mutants: Beak, Stacy X, Xorn, and Celeste Cuckoo. In turn Magma must hold Magik back from killing Dark Beast on the spot, and when a familiar voice of Jamie Madrox surfaces, the New Mutants know something odd is afoot, he just died!

What Dark Beast isn't telling the New Mutants is that he plans to replace these mutants with alternate reality versions that would be loyal to him for saving their doomed existence. As the group all leave Limbo, Dark Beast murders Madrox so he won't know stuff. Is Dark Beast really behind this, and what dead futures from the X-Men's past will haunt them next in OTHERWORLD X!

Fight Lineup:
Celeste Cuckoo
Beak (Barnell Bohusk)
Warpath (James Proudstar)
Stacy X (Miranda Leevald)
Magma (Amara Juliana)
Rictor (Julio Richter)

Generation X: The Xth Generation
Warren Worthington III has decided to use some of his resources reviving the formerly-defunct and often troubled Massachusetts Academy. It had long been a splinter school for training new mutants following the methods of instructors who in ways differed with the vision Xavier and Cyclops had for the X-Men, a tradition Archangel intends to continue and revive. In order to make the new Academy a success, he has managed to recruit one of its original instructors, Banshee to provide and former villain Havok whose unique perspective on the world helps to serve to counterpoint the idealistic Archangel and provide a well-rounded education - though more often than not this leads to a layer or two of angst illustrating the conflict between cynicism and idealism that defines Generation X. Banshee represents the middlepoint between the two having seen such devastation in his life - losing so much to both mundane terrorism and mutant-specific terrorism, yet still seeing such hope and potential for the future. The book is defined by the 7 coming of age stories for each of the students as they grow as people, particularly focusing on Mercury, Leech and Jubilee, while new mysteries surrounding Hollow's past, the St. Croix twins present and of course the future of mutantkind. Expect of course to see your standard X-Men romantic angst, this time featuring the unlikely pairing of Leech and Nicole St. Croix, a troublesome crush by Paige on Havok and the deep aromantic friendship of Hollow and Mercury clashing with world shaking dangers challenge the beliefs and ideals of our heroes. The big money draws of the book are Archangel, Havok and Jubilee, and the book intends to make stars out of Leech and Mercury.

Fight Lineup:
Archangel
Claudette
Nicole
Hollow
Leech
Havok

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Scarlet, sorry, but I PMed an updated pitch yesterday to reflect my new roster. You can just change that, my fight line-up is still the same.

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My Pitch Votes:

AmazonX vs. X-trinsic:
X-trinsic remains a mediocre name, and AmazonX remains a terrible one, but the big change here is the entirely new pitch with Namor presented in an entirely new way. Love the political aspect, love the slight touch of X-Force in this pitch, and I especially love that Boom-Boom has been brought in to completely counterbalance the heavy nature of this title.

X-Mortis vs. Future of X:
X-Mortis remains a unique departure in style for an X-Title while still hewing close to the messages that X-Men have always imparted to its readers. At the same time, I really only see Future of X as a single story arc. And given that the always-bland killer-of-Black-Panther's-good-runs Storm remains at the forefront, I'd rather read X-Mortis. Dust, in particular, is a character with a ton of great depth to explore.

New eXperiments vs. RetroaXtive:
This is a push. The new pitches here made a huge shift in my opinions for both teams. I think the wordiness of RetroaXtive makes it feel like it's overcomplicating the concept to some extent, and this hurts my opinion of it. I also still am not entirely thrilled with Beast in this lineup. At the same time, Scare's pitch is improved. The overarching nemesis I ASSUME is a Stryker or Stryker legacy of some sort, which definitely explains the union of Wolverine and Deadpool and doesn't feel like a joke. I think this pitch still needs some honing a bit, but for now, I'm actually torn. Both lineups here feel decently suited to their groups, although Quicksilver is being completely wasted.

Otherworld X vs. Generation X: The Xth Generation
XthGen (see, I'm already abbreviating it, it's that good) is such a solid, consistent, tight plot. It rings of X-Men and it completely overcomes what I dislike about the original Generation X. I'm still a little disappointed that we have too many teacher positions in proportion to the students, and for me, Jubilee almost skates between the old-young line. But the team itself is extremely, extremely solid. Otherworld X still feels like an opening to a story and not a series to me. I do enjoy Magik and Madrox, but I wish this pitch was a little darker (with a Doctor Moreau feel to Dark Beast). It's a solid pitch, but it lacks the clear vision of where this series could go in the future, unlike XthGen.

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Snake5555555555 posted...

Scarlet, sorry, but I PMed an updated pitch yesterday to reflect my new roster. You can just change that, my fight line-up is still the same.

Fixed.

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My Fight roster needs some explanation.

The M Twins are a pair of heroes who can go Gestalt to perfectly mimic other people to include their powers. Most often this is to mimic M but it has also including Emplate. Theoretically this power could be applied to copy like X Man or Vulcan or whatever but let's stick to them copying M and gaining her super strength, telepathy and other powers. They can then FURTHER Gestalt with Hollow adding nigh indestructibility, super agility and wolverine-esque claws to the mix.

They'd get support from Leech who can help prevent them being overrun and from Archangel whose flight provides good alpha strike potential and from Havok providing a great partner with increased ranged potential (an area where Archangel doubles up as he has super strength and razor feather projection capability.)

Vs this team specifically Magma and Celeste are great Leech candidates, M Twins psychic capabilities to some extent let them run the board once Celeste is off of it and from there they can sweep.


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scarletspeed7 posted...

Picking up a security shift for a friend, Puck feels things are a bit fishy and ends up digging deeper into where he is supposed to be keeping an eye on. What he discovers however is several mutants being held in what looks like medical holding cells. One of whom he recognizes as Deadpool. Deadpool signals for help and Puck assists him and the other mutants in escaping. We learn that the facility was looking to create a new type of mutant and that they have been working on new DNA and cloning techniques. Deadpool reveals that he was captured as he was trying to free Wolverine from a different, similar type of facility and he had been looking into this for a short while.

As they go along recovering the rest of their squad and finding out more information about what is really going on, it smells a lot like a ghost from Wolverine and Deadpools past. Stryker, however, is nowhere to be seen or heard. Who is behind this and what did they get from their research? What new mutants are running around? Clones of several of the group have been put into leadership roles in other mutant teams and needs to be addressed along the way. Its up to the eXperiments to tackle.

(Full team: Wolverine, Deadpool, Quicksilver, Polaris, Karma, Puck, Anole, Warlock, Box, Captain UK)
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Fixed.

Thanks!

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Quick Pick Form (Bold your Choices):
Fight
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen

Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
This is auto really. But icemans pitch is better from last week

Snake vs. Mega Mana
Also auto. Manas pitch is still bad, Snakes is still A+

Scare vs. Lopen
Scares pitch is much better now. Good enough he gets my vote

MegaManX vs. Eddv
Abstain
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Otherworld X still feels like an opening to a story and not a series to me. I do enjoy Magik and Madrox, but I wish this pitch was a little darker (with a Doctor Moreau feel to Dark Beast). It's a solid pitch, but it lacks the clear vision of where this series could go in the future, unlike XthGen.

Cause I was the under the impression we'd be advancing this story, this idea of the event is boring. Like I like Snakes pitch a lot but how many weeks am I gonna read the same thing? The pitch concept is the most interesting part of the project but it lacks substance after week 1.
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Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman *Yes.* I have some issues with the name, but the new pitch is *immensely* intriguing, and I want to see where this goes.

Snake vs. Mega Mana yeah, still my type of story, and I'm gonna probably be picking it in every match unless it somehow weakens *immensely* or if one of the other pitches improve even further. Not impossible if todays improvements are anything to go by.

Scare vs. Lopen ....I can't pick on this one yet. Both are *massively* improved from last round, and I'm... intrigued by both.

MegaManX vs. Eddv
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Not gonna vote yet but wanted to throw out some thoughts since there's a lot of updates and improvements going around.

X-Mortis: Something about this pitch honestly doesn't quite connect with me the way it does others despite having a few characters I really like, but it's so well thought-out and thematically complete that I can fully recognize it's objectively very solid. Dust replacing Lifeguard is a definite upgrade given the concept.

Future of X: I still love this roster as a whole, but I'm still not sure I grasp the grand plan of this book. Feels a little unfocused for being a time travel story.

New eXperiments: Definitely improved. Having a stronger story reason for the Deadpool/Wolverine duo to stand at the forefront makes it a lot more palatable. I think I'd still like to know more about the eventual direction here, but I'm more intrigued than I was.

RetroaXtive: Beast really just feels like he needs to go at this point, even if it's for what would be pennies on the dollar on its face. His role in the story just doesn't make much sense, and it's a shame because I really like this concept a lot otherwise. There's a lot of interesting dynamics within the roster considering the story. Very close to being great here.

Otherworld X: My complaints from last round remain. Very enjoyable roster with little cohesion for the concept. I like the more clearly antagonist setup for Dark Beast, but I don't know - this still just doesn't quite feel finished.

Generation X: The Xth Generation: I'm not looking forward to going up against this team. It's awesome. It's not perfect, and scarlet already went over the reasons why, but it may be my favorite in the project. And I know Ed is aware of the flaws and is trying to rectify them, so the fact that it could get even better is pretty scary.
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Tag.
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Fight
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Shad has some power with Cap Britain and Blindfold, but Ice's mix of brute strength and long-distance power with everyone contributing makes this one a bit of a wash.

Scare vs. Lopen
I could see RetroaXtive relying more on cunning and espionage to win this fight, but ultimately New eXperiments has too much power to really contend with, especially with Quicksilver, Deadpool, and Polaris causing considering chaos.

MegaManX vs. Eddv
Eddv's team has an element of attrition and unpredictability to his team that I think would give Mega's team, though solidly crafted, a good bit of trouble since I think they lack flexibility. Eddv gets the win through sheer determination, with Havok and Archangel having enough power to carry the rest through.

Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Very disappointed AmazonX didn't have any changes to it. I really think the roster here has so much potential for an interesting, expanded story. I like Iceman's pitch much more this week, it feels more like a book with direction and the focus on Namor over Apocalypse was a sorely needed change that I feel gives the book more personality.

Scare vs. Lopen
Scare's is marked improvement over last round! I think the overall set-up is still a little forced with the convenient identical facilities but beyond that the main driving force of the plot does sound relatively interesting. For RetroaXtive, I agree with others that Beast still sticks out like a sore thumb, however the rest of the story sounds like so much crazy chaos and disastrous dynamics that it's a train wreck I can't look away from, and I mean that as positively as I can.

MegaManX vs. Eddv
I still enjoy Mega's pitch here a lot, again that Madrox factor is just too irresistible. But Eddv knows what's he doing, and I feel he's more confident and fleshed out in his ideas. It's the type of book that just screams "X-Men" to me and the roster is just so solidly crafted, it's pretty hard to argue against.

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Pitches
Xtrinsic
Xmortis
New eXperiments (scare gets my vote for most improved, though Lopens is also great)

Torn on the last one. I feel like XthGen is more well thought out and knows what it wants to be... But part of me just wants to read OX a little more
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Fight
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv

Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv

scarletspeed7 posted...

I think the wordiness of RetroaXtive makes it feel like it's overcomplicating the concept to some extent, and this hurts my opinion of it.

Does it overcomplicate though? I don't really think it's that complicated. Beast is a man of CRITICAL THINKING and sees that what Bishop is doing may be for the greater good despite the hotblooded feelings of his friends. Doesn't really seem out of character to me, even if it's an unorthodox way to include the guy as a member of a team.

I can't help but feel you may be judging harshly because you feel I'm stretching the limits of "one-two paragraphs" more than the pitch being complicated here. Which I mean, fine, but I asked you for input on that, we need to explain up to 10 members's inclusion in a team and such so I feel one paragraph is tough for this. Basically I'm just wondering is this secretly an exercise in creative writing and I just need to clean up the wording a bit, or is it about creating a compelling idea? Like it's easier to just punt Beast and be done with it but I find it more interesting to try and keep him in.

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You may feel that way, but that's not why I feel that way! I think you're overcomplicating the beauty of the simple drama of Magneto vs. Bishop, and shoehorning Beast in doesn't feel like a natural, organic direction for conflict. But that's just my opinion, and there are lots of others voting!

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Fights
X-Trinsic
Future of X:
New eXperiments
Generation X: The Xth Generation
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Well it's less about shoehorning Beast into the core of the conflict and more maintaining some connection between the X-Men and the team as I think that adds a bit more to things you can do with it and Beast is one of the better (imo) characters to diverge from the X-Men way of thinking.

But *shrug* I just think overcomplicated is a weird word for it I guess.

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Looks like I'm doing pretty well on the Fight votes again, but just in case anyone's on the fence, I figure I'll throw out a few notes.

Right off the bat, I think Aurora pretty much just ruins Pixie's day. Won't be any time to drop the dust when the much faster flier can just blitz her and take her out.

There's some strong telepathy on the AmazonX side, but Namor and Primal have both demonstrated at least some telepathic resistance at some point in the past so I don't think they're huge difference-makers. They won't be doing much against Lady Mastermind, either.

Ultimately, I feel like Shad's win condition would be finding a way to lessen the impact of Namor's raw power, and when you've also got Boom-Boom and Spiral running various manners of interference, I think there's just too much going on for that to happen, especially since Namor's recently gotten ahold of some of Hydro-Man's powers and essentially become a waterbender, which diversifies his battle ability some.
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Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv

This was harder on me because I have some problems with the pitches. Shad has such a shallow pitch that I hoped he'd expand on, but I hate Namor and his douchebaggery. Iceman leaned hard into it as one should, but I would never read that book.

X-Mortis is actually one of my favorites on this half of the bracket, so the weak pitch for Future of X made this the easiest pick.

Scare comes in with a better pitch than last round, Lopen comes in with basically the same wall of text. I'm sorry, but that pitch wasn't good the first time and there is so much text if there are any changes I can't see it.

Eddv, I am never going to be anything but turned off by the idea that at this time Jubilee is "coming of age." She's a parent now. And actually most of those characters have come of age already. 90's X-Men is awesome, but I'm not going to vote a 20-30 year old idea now. Sorry.
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Forgot to set aside time to do in depth votes so just gonna get votes down and come back if I have time.

Fight
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv
Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv

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28 hours left.

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ChichiriMuyo posted...

there is so much text if there are any changes I can't see it.

lmao

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Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman - Shad's is a bit too barebones for me. While there may be some refining to do, on Iceman's, I at least see a coherent story here with some level of intrigue and a good cast that isn't abusing an 11th man. Much improved.
Snake vs. Mega Mana - Snake still lacks star power, but Mana's is so open for me that all it has going for it is star power, and the star power, for me at least, is middling-- maybe if I'd read House of X and Powers of X I'd be more drawn to it? I don't know.
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MegaManX vs. Eddv - Eddv's might be technically the 'best' pitch for me in a lot of ways, even if it's not my cup of tea. MMX's lacks any real hook as to why I'd be interested in this story beyond alternate version shenanigans for the sake of them. *shrug

Fights later, maybe.

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Don't forget this ends at noon central tomorrow!

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Fight
abstain
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv

Pitch
abstain
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv
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Fight
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
Snake vs. Mega Mana
Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv
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This topic will end in half an hour! I will tally the votes later, however, given the Thanksiving holiday. You can start any trading now, and make sure you get your pitches/rosters in by Saturday before noon, when the next round begins.

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Remembered just in time

Fight
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
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Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv

Pitch
Shaduln vs. NBIceman
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Scare vs. Lopen
MegaManX vs. Eddv
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