Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Day 98 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]

(+) Yeah! (+)

We're due for a year of the villain

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For just this iteration. I should really do a full SMFFFC list accounting for all the intangibles though.

1. Zell Dincht
2. Zack Fair
3. Delita Hyral
4. Kefka Palazzo
5. Dr. Cid
6. Selphie Tilmitt
7. Jecht
8. Ramza Beoulve
9. Agns Oblige
10. Serah Farron
11. Cissnei
12. Ashelia "Ashe" B'nargin Dalmasca
13. Squall Leonhart
14. Gilgamesh
15. Garnet "Dagger" Til Alexandros XVII
16. Oerba Dia Vanille
17. Exdeath
18. Wiegraf Folles
19. Minwu
20. Garland

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81. Vivi Ornitier
82. Basch fon Ronsenburg
83. Quistis Trepe
84. Isaaru
85. Tifa Lockhart
86. Eiko Carol
87. Leblanc
88. Fran
89. Snow Villiers
90. Quina Quen
91. Freya Crescent
92. Cyan Garamonde
93. Terra Branford
94. Seymour Guado
95. Zidane Tribal
96. Hope Estheim
97. Tiz Arrior
98. Vayne Carudas Solidor
99. Wakka
100. Lightning
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FFD you should have come back earlier!

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FFDragon posted...

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81. Vivi Ornitier
82. Basch fon Ronsenburg
84. Isaaru
94. Seymour Guado
99. Wakka
100. Lightning

... or just not come back at all!

Unless you came back early enough to help Jecht. Then I'd begrudgingly allow it.
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I was gonna dunk on Gen for that year of the villain list but then realized pj was the one who said it and decided to spare her the dunking.

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Honestly being a favorite character has more weight early on than a least favorite

like FFD isnt gonna kill Seymour or Lightning in the first half or anything

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Wow given his strong repeat winner hate, FFD must REALLY hate everyone under Vivi.
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I wonder if Zell ever had a snowball's chance in hell of ever repeating would FFD actively try to prevent it or naw?

Also I forget is today a day of rest before the finale tomorrow or is the final match going up later today?
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That's actually the list without former winner bias taken into account. (Both good [Zell/Zack] and bad [Vivi/Zidane/etc])

Also:

LiquidOshawott posted...

like FFD isnt gonna kill Seymour or Lightning in the first half or anything

1st Place - Zell Dincht
9th Place - Dr. Cid
11th Place - Squall Leonhart
14th Place - Gilgamesh
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66th Place - Vaan
68th Place - Quistis Trepe
72nd Place - Penelo
73rd Place - Wakka
74th Place - Seymour Guado
75th Place - Cyan Garamonde

CX was just so damn good.
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gilgamesh loves 14th place
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GenesisSaga posted...

I wonder if Zell ever had a snowball's chance in hell of ever repeating would FFD actively try to prevent it or naw?

Actively try to prevent it? Nah, let him run to the finals again and be someone's goat though tbqh. Like, I'd vote Delita/Kefka/Dr. Cid/Selphie over him in the finals now for sure.
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Is FFD the only one that actively dislikes Vivi? I feel like most people are at least neutral-positive-ish on him
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I like that Cissnei 11th place rank... totally unexpected.

I really do not getting liking Cissnei over Reno, or Rude. Hell even Elena makes more sense to me! Is Before Crisis that good? And if you're just voting off appearance there's way cuter girls, although I guess Vanille is the only other redhead option if that's really your thing...
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Cissnei will always be the superior chick in a suit.

Before Crisis is okay. Crisis Core is amazing though.
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It's hard for me to actually rank Vivi because I haven't played IX and I save him because he's a black mage and that's my daughter's name.
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you named your daughter black mage?
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Yes
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Is FFD the only one that actively dislikes Vivi? I feel like most people are at least neutral-positive-ish on him

Vivi in particular no but I do in general anti vote IX.

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Top 15 preference ranking stats (n=25)

Best finals outcome: tied between MZero, Eddv and Lea (1 vs. 6)
Worst finals outcome: Steiner (12 vs. 15)
Widest variance: swordz (1 vs. 15)
Narrowest variance: Lopen (5 vs. 6)

Average rank of finals participants in people's rankings is 8.42, which is a bit below 8 (the overall average in a 1 through 15 ranking).

Mzero - 3.5
Leanansidhe - 3.5
Eddv - 3.5
Inviso - 5.5
Lopen - 5.5
Martin - 6
yellowwolley - 6.5
Maniac64 - 7
mnkboy - 8
swordz - 8
Xuxon - 8
Drakeryn - 8.5
ArkOfTurus - 9
GMUN - 9
Koala - 9.5
FFDragon - 9.5
BetrayedTangy - 10
pjbasis - 10
Bane - 10.5
ecksgem - 10.5
Kaelee - 11
Mewtwo - 11.5
VeryInsane - 11.5
StifledSilence - 11.5
Steiner - 13.5

Thanks to everyone who participated.

Poor Steiner.
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still better than last year
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Martin, can you calculate compatability stats? I always found it was something that's easier to generate a user at a time so I'd like to know a ranking of all of my own please
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Actually I would take Cid P over Edward and Fang over Lightning, so WHOOPS
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Actually I would take Cid P over Edward and Fang over Lightning, so WHOOPS

This, honestly. But both endings are still pretty good.

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Cid P is not great

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Yea well you're not great

No that's a lie, but Cid P is still cool
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daww <3

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Steiner posted...

Martin, can you calculate compatability stats? I always found it was something that's easier to generate a user at a time so I'd like to know a ranking of all of my own please

Can you save Lightning 10x in the finals? Don't forget that swordz wants to support Squall but he can't do it if Lightning doesn't win! Just, how would FFDragon want me to phrase this... "close your eyes and think of England" each time you save her?

I'll do it anyways but not sure what you mean by compatibility stats. Finding the user your rankings closest align to? Or how your ranks lined up with actual results?

I for one am in favor of keeping the spirit of #EyesClosedGate alive as a recurring meme yes

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Lightning would be the absolute last person I would ever save

Yeah, user compatability
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Martin does it help if I'm not voting for anyone

Well except Donkey Kong that is
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Lightning is the reason I basically never auto trade lol
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GenesisSaga posted...

I really do not getting liking Cissnei over Reno, or Rude. Hell even Elena makes more sense to me! Is Before Crisis that good? And if you're just voting off appearance there's way cuter girls, although I guess Vanille is the only other redhead option if that's really your thing...

Reno > Cissnei > Rude

Cissnei is nice enough and looks cute

Rude is boring and looks boring
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I like rude for all the free ziedrichs
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Reno is bae

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Reno was my project this year and it didn't go well
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added vchar's Full 100 ranking from a couple topics back plus the ones posted since last night

we're now up to 15 savers, out of 64 users who have recorded speeds for saving in SMFFFC!
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Martin does it help if I'm not voting for anyone

Well except Donkey Kong that is

I mean, you had Lightning at 7 and Edward at 14, Light saves would be appreciated, I know it isn't the greatest finals... I'm just getting desperate here. I'm looking forward to SMDC where I don't care about the results at all.

Steiner, I'll do it sure (just need to figure out how to). But as luck would have it, from a quick eyeballing it might be FFD:

-He had Squall in 2nd, you had him 1st
-Quina and Lightning 14th and 15th respectively, just like you

But his FF7 character rankings were shit so that probably won't help. I'll report back.

Steiner posted...

Reno was my project this year and it didn't go well

Dang :<

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Well part of me not voting is out of spite because Lightning savers were the ones that got Auron out because they wanted the easier final as opposed to an actual final, so I'm not the happiest with them at the moment.

So better to vote for Donkey Kong imoooo
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I could have gone further than 76 but I kinda refuse to trade that early, and I don't want to be that invested before the very late rounds because there's always the potential, due to timezone, to miss a round entirely. I don't mind kind of being heavily invested for about 3 weeks and setting alarms and cutting into sleep but yeah if Reno can't get through the early rounds it's just not meant to be
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Estelle

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Lightning
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