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Wolf_J_Flywheel 11/05/19 8:30:44 PM #51:	...get tested again? sounds like he should get tested --- Proud NRA member since 2008 https://imgur.com/n1L1yBu <cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted [p:929724832] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>...get tested <cite>again</cite>? sounds like he should get tested</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 11/05/19 8:38:01 PM #52:	It actually worries me that even now, there's people in society who still don't understand what 'consent' means. Very disappointing. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:929725180] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>It actually worries me that even now, there's people in society who still don't understand what 'consent' means. Very disappointing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 11/05/19 9:25:57 PM #53:	Was the condom use implied or verbally agreed on? --- Bros before hoes - Martin Luther King Jr <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:929727411] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Was the condom use implied or verbally agreed on?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 11/05/19 9:28:32 PM #54:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... Was the condom use implied or verbally agreed on? verbal consent.... agreement leading to protected sex didn't happen. he's a bad man, lock that man up when he didn't decide to condom. --- The act of treachery is an art, but the traitor himself is a piece of **** - Mike Tyson <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:929727530] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Was the condom use implied or verbally agreed on?</quote> verbal consent.... agreement leading to protected sex didn't happen. he's a bad man, lock that man up when he didn't decide to condom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/05/19 9:30:53 PM #55:	I remember we used to have posters here defending this shit and saying it wasn't a big deal. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:929727643] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>I remember we used to have posters here defending this shit and saying it wasn't a big deal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/05/19 9:32:11 PM #56:	Darmik posted... I remember we used to have posters here defending this shit and saying it wasn't a big deal. Still do, apparently. One guy even called someone else a rapist and his post is still there. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 80 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:929727714] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I remember we used to have posters here defending this shit and saying it wasn't a big deal.</quote> Still do, apparently. One guy even called someone else a rapist and his post is still there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 11/05/19 9:34:38 PM #57:	Was this her first time or something? You can def tell when theres no condom unless this is like your second time having sex. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:929727814] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Was this her first time or something? You can def tell when theres no condom unless this is like your second time having sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wetboy225 11/05/19 9:39:18 PM #59:	On GameFAQS the difference between rape is putting a 1/64 piece of rubber on your dick. <cite>wetboy225 posted [p:929728049] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>On GameFAQS the difference between rape is putting a 1/64 piece of rubber on your dick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 11/05/19 9:40:13 PM #60:	Zeeak4444 posted... Was this her first time or something? You can def tell when theres no condom unless this is like your second time having sex. How many penises have you had in your vagina? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:929728094] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>Was this her first time or something? You can def tell when theres no condom unless this is like your second time having sex.</quote> How many penises have you had in your vagina?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Matchabuu_ 11/05/19 9:40:29 PM #61:	Hexenherz posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Guys Its fucked up and can be a lot of things But that is not rape. Thats not what rape is. She only consented because of this one condition that the guy agreed to but then intentionally disregarded. That sounds like rape to me. Yup, quite literally rape --- uwu SW-0239-3946-8686 <cite>_Matchabuu_ posted [p:929728106] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Guys Its fucked up and can be a lot of things But that is not rape. Thats not what rape is.</quote> She only consented because of this one condition that the guy agreed to but then intentionally disregarded. That sounds like rape to me.</quote> Yup, quite literally rape</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/05/19 9:40:51 PM #62:	wetboy225 posted... On GameFAQS the difference between rape is putting a 1/64 piece of rubber on your dick. Do you understand situational context or the events posted in OP? I see shit like this and I start to remember why I was hesitant to come back to this fucking forum. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 80 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:929728119] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>On GameFAQS the difference between rape is putting a 1/64 piece of rubber on your dick.</quote> Do you understand situational context or the events posted in OP? I see shit like this and I start to remember why I was hesitant to come back to this fucking forum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 11/05/19 9:41:36 PM #63:	That sucks but women do bear responsibility on what goes into their body. There's been times where I pretended that I took the condom off, just to see how they'd react. They slide off and inspect the penis. --- MAGA <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:929728164] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>That sucks but women do bear responsibility on what goes into their body. There's been times where I pretended that I took the condom off, just to see how they'd react. They slide off and inspect the penis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 11/05/19 9:42:32 PM #64:	That's assault brudda --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:929728217] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>That's assault brudda</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wetboy225 11/05/19 9:43:14 PM #65:	Its not rape. <cite>wetboy225 posted [p:929728247] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Its not rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/05/19 9:44:52 PM #66:	wetboy225 posted... Its not rape. User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously? --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 80 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:929728324] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not rape.</quote> User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wetboy225 11/05/19 9:46:44 PM #67:	Hexenherz posted... wetboy225 posted... Its not rape. User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously? What other accounts? <cite>wetboy225 posted [p:929728400] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not rape.</quote> User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously?</quote> What other accounts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PIITB415 11/05/19 9:47:05 PM #68:	Garioshi posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Guys Its fucked up and can be a lot of things But that is not rape. Thats not what rape is. It literally is rape It's not. --- https://imgur.com/VawbBVM https://imgur.com/6Si4h <cite>PIITB415 posted [p:929728416] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>MICHALECOLE posted... </cite> <quote>Guys Its fucked up and can be a lot of things But that is not rape. Thats not what rape is.</quote>It literally is rape </quote> It's not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/05/19 9:47:57 PM #69:	wetboy225 posted... Hexenherz posted... wetboy225 posted... Its not rape. User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously? What other accounts? Are you going to answer the question or should I just block you now? --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 80 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:929728449] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not rape.</quote> User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously?</quote> What other accounts?</quote> Are you going to answer the question or should I just block you now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 11/05/19 9:51:43 PM #70:	According to that Rape by Deception link it's hazy. In the UK it qualifies as rape. In the US not so much...and apparently some worse things aren't too. Shit is kind of fucked up, but people trying to act like it's so cut and dry when legally it is not. --- PSN: Jiek <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:929728604] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>According to that Rape by Deception link it's hazy. In the UK it qualifies as rape. In the US not so much...and apparently some worse things aren't too. Shit is kind of fucked up, but people trying to act like it's so cut and dry when legally it is not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wetboy225 11/05/19 9:53:59 PM #71:	Hexenherz posted... wetboy225 posted... Hexenherz posted... wetboy225 posted... Its not rape. User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously? What other accounts? Are you going to answer the question or should I just block you now? Who are you? <cite>wetboy225 posted [p:929728714] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not rape.</quote> User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously?</quote> What other accounts?</quote> Are you going to answer the question or should I just block you now?</quote> Who are you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Matchabuu_ 11/05/19 9:54:43 PM #72:	It. Is. Rape. If one of the conditions to you having sex with someone is that they use a condom and they sneak it off, that is rape. period. --- uwu SW-0239-3946-8686 <cite>_Matchabuu_ posted [p:929728748] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>It. Is. Rape. If one of the conditions to you having sex with someone is that they use a condom and they sneak it off, that is rape. period.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 11/05/19 9:55:24 PM #73:	wetboy225 posted... Hexenherz posted... wetboy225 posted... Hexenherz posted... wetboy225 posted... Its not rape. User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously? What other accounts? Are you going to answer the question or should I just block you now? Who are you? Well, thanks for making it easy. Can't wait to block whatever dumb account you make next week. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 80 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:929728784] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>wetboy225 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not rape.</quote> User Since: Nov 2019 Karma: 3 What compels someone to make a new account here constantly just to post dumb inflammatory shit like this, seriously?</quote> What other accounts?</quote> Are you going to answer the question or should I just block you now?</quote> Who are you?</quote> Well, thanks for making it easy. Can't wait to block whatever dumb account you make next week.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wetboy225 11/05/19 9:56:47 PM #74:	He didnt make her finish I suspect. <cite>wetboy225 posted [p:929728860] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>He didnt make her finish I suspect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkraiomb 11/05/19 10:00:31 PM #75:	Darkraiomb posted... I say that's what you get for not looking. Am I the only one who thinks this? --- "Calling Trump a nazi should be moddable. Because if you do youre trolling Americans and anyone with a brain. "~ KingCrabCake <cite>Darkraiomb posted [p:929729021] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Darkraiomb posted...</cite> <quote>I say that's what you get for not looking.</quote> Am I the only one who thinks this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmatureContent 11/05/19 10:04:36 PM #76:	Darkraiomb posted... Darkraiomb posted... I say that's what you get for not looking. Am I the only one who thinks this? Victim blaming? Yeah, not a popular stance among most folks. --- NinjaMaster <cite>ImmatureContent posted [p:929729195] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Darkraiomb posted...</cite> <quote>Darkraiomb posted...</cite> <quote>I say that's what you get for not looking.</quote> Am I the only one who thinks this?</quote> Victim blaming? Yeah, not a popular stance among most folks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 11/05/19 10:08:47 PM #77:	Darkraiomb posted... Am I the only one who thinks this? I don't think you could argue this is contributory negligence. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:929729387] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Darkraiomb posted... </cite> <quote>Am I the only one who thinks this?</quote> I don't think you could argue this is contributory negligence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 11/05/19 10:19:57 PM #78:	Rape by deception is a thing for those of you who deny it. If you deceive someone into having sex with you, you did not actually gain their consent. Remember about the consent part please. --- https://imgur.com/GUwbF1D https://imgur.com/j4nfK4O <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:929729897] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Rape by deception is a thing for those of you who deny it. If you deceive someone into having sex with you, you did not actually gain their consent. Remember about the consent part please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpenlyGator 11/05/19 10:40:42 PM #79:	Most people typically associate the term "rape" with it being a violent act or forcing someone to have sex against their will. As far as reports have detailed, the case involves neither conditions. There was no violence or force involved. It could be argued that it's a case of deception, which I agree it fits the bill. However, deception is not forcing someone against their will. It's deluding them into making their own choice. It's not force or an act of oppression. It's trickery. Arguing that this is rape is a slippery slope, because many other common place scenarios would than also qualify...such as a woman lying about taking birth control while having sex with a man who clearly does not want to support a child and she later surprises him with a baby she expects him to pay for. Under the idea of "rape by deception", such a woman would qualify as a rapist because she tricked someone into having sex with her under conditions they did not originally agree to. In other words: a typical female golddigger trying to lock down a wealthy man by tricking him into getting her pregnant would now qualify as her raping him. Keep in mind, this is not a rare ambition today... Trans people who avoid revealing their trans status could also fall under this broad precedent if their intended sex partner finds out they have been deceived. I'm personally for punishing violent or coercive rape, but tackling the nebulous term of "deception" can be far more arbitrary and have much broader unintended impacts when recklessly treated the same as cases of violence and coercion. Because what could count as deception? Many common place things that the average men and women would not consider a sexual offense... --- The funny thing about telling others to take the high road is how often it's hypocritical advice. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/28/IdSqD.png <cite>OpenlyGator posted [p:929730760] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Most people typically associate the term "rape" with it being a violent act or forcing someone to have sex against their will. As far as reports have detailed, the case involves neither conditions. There was no violence or force involved. It could be argued that it's a case of deception, which I agree it fits the bill. However, deception is not forcing someone against their will. It's deluding them into making their own choice. It's not force or an act of oppression. It's trickery. Arguing that this is rape is a slippery slope, because many other common place scenarios would than also qualify...such as a woman lying about taking birth control while having sex with a man who clearly does not want to support a child and she later surprises him with a baby she expects him to pay for. Under the idea of "rape by deception", such a woman would qualify as a rapist because she tricked someone into having sex with her under conditions they did not originally agree to. In other words: a typical female golddigger trying to lock down a wealthy man by tricking him into getting her pregnant would now qualify as her raping him. Keep in mind, this is not a rare ambition today... Trans people who avoid revealing their trans status could also fall under this broad precedent if their intended sex partner finds out they have been deceived. I'm personally for punishing violent or coercive rape, but tackling the nebulous term of "deception" can be far more arbitrary and have much broader unintended impacts when recklessly treated the same as cases of violence and coercion. Because what could count as deception? Many common place things that the average men and women would not consider a sexual offense...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 11/05/19 10:47:54 PM #80:	OpenlyGator posted... Trans people who avoid revealing their trans status could also fall under this broad precedent if their intended sex partner finds out they have been deceived. Why --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:929731047] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>OpenlyGator posted... </cite> <quote>Trans people who avoid revealing their trans status could also fall under this broad precedent if their intended sex partner finds out they have been deceived.</quote>Why </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamestunner 11/05/19 10:49:39 PM #81:	So, if we consent to dick->vagina sex, but I instead titty fuck her, that's rape by deception? Asking for friend. <cite>gamestunner posted [p:929731112] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>So, if we consent to dick->vagina sex, but I instead titty fuck her, that's rape by deception? Asking for friend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 11/05/19 10:51:02 PM #82:	The_Scarecrow posted... Rape by deception is a thing for those of you who deny it. If you deceive someone into having sex with you, you did not actually gain their consent. Remember about the consent part please. Genuine consent --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:929731156] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>The_Scarecrow posted... </cite> <quote>Rape by deception is a thing for those of you who deny it. If you deceive someone into having sex with you, you did not actually gain their consent. Remember about the consent part please.</quote> Genuine consent </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CloudThunder 11/05/19 10:52:57 PM #83:	how do you not notice a person who you were having sex with wasnt wearing a condom? <cite>CloudThunder posted [p:929731231] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>how do you not notice a person who you were having sex with wasnt wearing a condom?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
assassingriskel 11/05/19 11:02:53 PM #84:	LOL --- "Never trust a women"-Nobliss Gordon Mobile Suit Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans episode 17 People die everyday b <cite>assassingriskel posted [p:929731580] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>LOL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/05/19 11:04:57 PM #85:	DK9292 posted... Wii_Shaker posted... The sex was consensual. It is NOT rape. You can't claim rape if you consent to sex and the sex sucks. He is guilty of deception, which isn't a crime it's just a scumbag thing to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception Not to nit-pick, but you guys repeatedly linking to a wiki article isn't the winning blow you think it is. Even in the article, it characterizes the idea as mixed. "Rape by deception" isn't a thing everywhere. Garioshi posted... OpenlyGator posted... Trans people who avoid revealing their trans status could also fall under this broad precedent if their intended sex partner finds out they have been deceived. Why Don't be obtuse. You know why. <cite>Esrac posted [p:929731658] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote>Wii_Shaker posted...</cite> <quote>The sex was consensual. It is NOT rape. You can't claim rape if you consent to sex and the sex sucks. He is guilty of deception, which isn't a crime it's just a scumbag thing to do.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception</quote> Not to nit-pick, but you guys repeatedly linking to a wiki article isn't the winning blow you think it is. Even in the article, it characterizes the idea as mixed. "Rape by deception" isn't a thing everywhere. Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>OpenlyGator posted... </cite> <quote>Trans people who avoid revealing their trans status could also fall under this broad precedent if their intended sex partner finds out they have been deceived.</quote>Why </quote> Don't be obtuse. You know why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 11/05/19 11:06:27 PM #86:	Garioshi posted... OpenlyGator posted... Trans people who avoid revealing their trans status could also fall under this broad precedent if their intended sex partner finds out they have been deceived. Why Because one party was deceived (obviously, if angry after the fact, of the true biological status of the other party, then had they been told beforehand, it's likely they wouldn't have consented to sex in the first place). Thus, by the same definition, Rape by deception <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:929731723] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>OpenlyGator posted... </cite> <quote>Trans people who avoid revealing their trans status could also fall under this broad precedent if their intended sex partner finds out they have been deceived.</quote>Why </quote> Because one party was deceived (obviously, if angry after the fact, of the true biological status of the other party, then had they been told beforehand, it's likely they wouldn't have consented to sex in the first place). Thus, by the same definition, Rape by deception</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 11/05/19 11:11:38 PM #87:	HiddenRoar posted... Because one party was deceived (obviously, if angry after the fact, of the true biological status of the other party, then had they been told beforehand, it's likely they wouldn't have consented to sex in the first place). Thus, by the same definition, Rape by deception It has nothing to do with the sex itself, though. It's not the same about lying about having HIV or lying about having a condom on. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:929731899] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>HiddenRoar posted... </cite> <quote>Because one party was deceived (obviously, if angry after the fact, of the true biological status of the other party, then had they been told beforehand, it's likely they wouldn't have consented to sex in the first place). Thus, by the same definition, Rape by deception</quote>It has nothing to do with the sex itself, though. It's not the same about lying about having HIV or lying about having a condom on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/05/19 11:14:58 PM #88:	Garioshi posted... HiddenRoar posted... Because one party was deceived (obviously, if angry after the fact, of the true biological status of the other party, then had they been told beforehand, it's likely they wouldn't have consented to sex in the first place). Thus, by the same definition, Rape by deception It has nothing to do with the sex itself, though. It's not the same about lying about having HIV or lying about having a condom on. Ehhhh.... One of the rape by deception cases in that wiki article is from one woman against another woman, because the rapist woman was presenting herself as male. If the raped woman had known the rapist woman was actually female, she wouldn't have consented. <cite>Esrac posted [p:929732007] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>HiddenRoar posted... </cite> <quote>Because one party was deceived (obviously, if angry after the fact, of the true biological status of the other party, then had they been told beforehand, it's likely they wouldn't have consented to sex in the first place). Thus, by the same definition, Rape by deception</quote>It has nothing to do with the sex itself, though. It's not the same about lying about having HIV or lying about having a condom on. </quote> Ehhhh.... One of the rape by deception cases in that wiki article is from one woman against another woman, because the rapist woman was presenting herself as male. If the raped woman had known the rapist woman was actually female, she wouldn't have consented.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmatureContent 11/05/19 11:18:12 PM #89:	Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic. --- NinjaMaster <cite>ImmatureContent posted [p:929732113] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/05/19 11:25:18 PM #90:	ImmatureContent posted... Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic. The idea is that a transwoman who presents herself as a woman is committing rape by deception if she doesn't disclose her trans status, because men probably wouldn't consent to sex with her if they knew beforehand. The arguable deception being that she is a typical woman instead of a transwoman. And the first mention of this in this topic was in the Rape by Deception article being tossed around by several posters in this topic who were using it like it wins their argument for them. <cite>Esrac posted [p:929732386] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>ImmatureContent posted...</cite> <quote>Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic.</quote> The idea is that a transwoman who presents herself as a woman is committing rape by deception if she doesn't disclose her trans status, because men probably wouldn't consent to sex with her if they knew beforehand. The arguable deception being that she is a typical woman instead of a transwoman. And the first mention of this in this topic was in the Rape by Deception article being tossed around by several posters in this topic who were using it like it wins their argument for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmatureContent 11/05/19 11:39:05 PM #91:	Esrac posted... ImmatureContent posted... Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic. The idea is that a transwoman who presents herself as a woman is committing rape by deception if she doesn't disclose her trans status, because men probably wouldn't consent to sex with her if they knew beforehand. The arguable deception being that she is a typical woman instead of a transwoman. And the first mention of this in this topic was in the Rape by Deception article being tossed around by several posters in this topic who were using it like it wins their argument for them. Not the same case at all. You infer that a transwoman is cis. She is under no obligation to share her status with you unless you ask. If you ask and she lies, then it becomes deception. This guy explicitly tricked the woman into thinking he was wearing a condom. It wasn't simply taken for granted by her. --- NinjaMaster <cite>ImmatureContent posted [p:929732865] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>ImmatureContent posted...</cite> <quote>Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic.</quote> The idea is that a transwoman who presents herself as a woman is committing rape by deception if she doesn't disclose her trans status, because men probably wouldn't consent to sex with her if they knew beforehand. The arguable deception being that she is a typical woman instead of a transwoman. And the first mention of this in this topic was in the Rape by Deception article being tossed around by several posters in this topic who were using it like it wins their argument for them.</quote> Not the same case at all. You infer that a transwoman is cis. She is under no obligation to share her status with you unless you ask. If you ask and she lies, then it becomes deception. This guy explicitly tricked the woman into thinking he was wearing a condom. It wasn't simply taken for granted by her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 11/05/19 11:46:36 PM #92:	ImmatureContent posted... Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. Pretty sure it's deception if the other person has made clear that they won't engage in sex with transgenders, but doesn't ask a person beforehand in particular even if the other person knows of the former's position. But even if asked, if they respond to "Yes" when asked "Are you female", is that considered a lie? Cause to one party, it does <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:929733095] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>ImmatureContent posted...</cite> <quote>Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be.</quote> Pretty sure it's deception if the other person has made clear that they won't engage in sex with transgenders, but doesn't ask a person beforehand in particular even if the other person knows of the former's position. But even if asked, if they respond to "Yes" when asked "Are you female", is that considered a lie? Cause to one party, it does</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 11/06/19 12:25:48 AM #93:	How did she not notice? Condoms have a very distinct feel. And it takes a guy a minute to put it on. Unless one or both were too drunk or high to notice or bother, its impossible not to see or feel it otherwise. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:929734193] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>How did she not notice? Condoms have a very distinct feel. And it takes a guy a minute to put it on. Unless one or both were too drunk or high to notice or bother, its impossible not to see or feel it otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 11/06/19 12:44:16 AM #94:	And yes it is a shitty thing to do, I'm not saying it isn't, but I don't get how she didn't notice if she was possibly sober? --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:929734651] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>And yes it is a shitty thing to do, I'm not saying it isn't, but I don't get how she didn't notice if she was possibly sober?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 11/06/19 12:48:53 AM #95:	Idk it's more like she is the driver and she didn't check if her passengers put on their seatbelts. <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:929734759] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Idk it's more like she is the driver and she didn't check if her passengers put on their seatbelts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 11/06/19 12:56:06 AM #96:	ImmatureContent posted... exact same result while i would also call this rape, i think this is the viewpoint being argued against. the result here is the emotional trauma of the victim, which we can view as something other than 'zero' and 'one' we can admit there are shades of grey in this issue without suggesting the perpetrator did nothing wrong --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:929734940] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>ImmatureContent posted...</cite> <quote>exact same result</quote> while i would also call this rape, i think this is the viewpoint being argued against. the result here is the emotional trauma of the victim, which we can view as something other than 'zero' and 'one' we can admit there are shades of grey in this issue without suggesting the perpetrator did nothing wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xxdudeyy 11/06/19 1:06:38 AM #97:	And opposite experience happened with a mate of mine, many years ago with his (then girlfriend.) He relied on her taking birth control pills as he couldn't be bothered with wearing a condom and the following morning after having sex with her. She lied to him that she took birth control pills before they began as to get knocked up by him and he was forced by this to take responsibility to marry her and be a Father and a provider for his family. Always wear a condom if you don't want kids. --- Gday <cite>xxdudeyy posted [p:929735170] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>And opposite experience happened with a mate of mine, many years ago with his (then girlfriend.) He relied on her taking birth control pills as he couldn't be bothered with wearing a condom and the following morning after having sex with her. She lied to him that she took birth control pills before they began as to get knocked up by him and he was forced by this to take responsibility to marry her and be a Father and a provider for his family. Always wear a condom if you don't want kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 11/06/19 1:14:29 AM #98:	She'll need somebody on CE to help take care of the baby. --- I support Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:929735354] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>She'll need somebody on CE to help take care of the baby.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/06/19 6:40:04 AM #99:	ImmatureContent posted... Esrac posted... ImmatureContent posted... Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic. The idea is that a transwoman who presents herself as a woman is committing rape by deception if she doesn't disclose her trans status, because men probably wouldn't consent to sex with her if they knew beforehand. The arguable deception being that she is a typical woman instead of a transwoman. And the first mention of this in this topic was in the Rape by Deception article being tossed around by several posters in this topic who were using it like it wins their argument for them. Not the same case at all. You infer that a transwoman is cis. She is under no obligation to share her status with you unless you ask. If you ask and she lies, then it becomes deception. This guy explicitly tricked the woman into thinking he was wearing a condom. It wasn't simply taken for granted by her. I don't know. I guess we'd have to ask men who've slept with transwomen that they mistook for normal women if they felt deceived. <cite>Esrac posted [p:929741045] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>ImmatureContent posted...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>ImmatureContent posted...</cite> <quote>Simply not sharing details about yourself is not deception. If someone asks and you lie, that would be. If he didn't put on a condom and she never asked, it wouldn't be rape. It is rape because he tricked her into thinking he would be wearing a condom. Not the same situation at all. Though, I am not surprised that these sort of posters brought their transphobia into the topic.</quote> The idea is that a transwoman who presents herself as a woman is committing rape by deception if she doesn't disclose her trans status, because men probably wouldn't consent to sex with her if they knew beforehand. The arguable deception being that she is a typical woman instead of a transwoman. And the first mention of this in this topic was in the Rape by Deception article being tossed around by several posters in this topic who were using it like it wins their argument for them.</quote> Not the same case at all. You infer that a transwoman is cis. She is under no obligation to share her status with you unless you ask. If you ask and she lies, then it becomes deception. This guy explicitly tricked the woman into thinking he was wearing a condom. It wasn't simply taken for granted by her.</quote> I don't know. I guess we'd have to ask men who've slept with transwomen that they mistook for normal women if they felt deceived.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 11/06/19 6:43:40 AM #100:	You guys that don't think that's rape Some helpful advice: Don't try this on a girl and then follow up with your "well ackchyually" nonsense --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:929741088] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>You guys that don't think that's rape Some helpful advice: Don't try this on a girl and then follow up with your "well ackchyually" nonsense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 11/06/19 6:47:04 AM #101:	Annihilated posted... Pretty sure that counts as rape. Also what an idiot, what would he do if she got pregnant? Consensual sex is not rape condom or not --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:929741143] in Woman find... [t:78137752]...</cite> <quote>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure that counts as rape. Also what an idiot, what would he do if she got pregnant?</quote> Consensual sex is not rape condom or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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