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mrduckbear
11/03/19 10:09:15 PM
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Do you think Michael is brainwashed on the confederate flag? - Results (7 votes)
Yes
42.86% (3 votes)
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No
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The sole black man at a rally held by Mike Pence in Virginia Beach was spotted by Dailymail and was identified as a Republican Volunteer..and he wore a CONFEDERATE FLAG who said he was PROUD to wear the flag despite it being the symbol of SLAVERY and DISCRIMINATION against African African Americans because he said if it wasn't for that, they wouldn't BE IN AMERICA today and that it's HERITAGE..even though he's NEVER lived in the south!!

He admits that his garb upsets his black friends back home in CHICAGO but said "It's what i believe in. Yeah, it's not racist, it's heritage"

He told Dailymail that he was a volunteering staff member with the Republican Party's efforts to turn out the vote in Virginia and unlike West Virginia, is the more liberal state.

He travels here for work and is employed at a shipyard and when asked what he thought of the president and pence, he said "I love the fact that they're typical Americans. Trump says what he feels. I'm not putting the man on a pedestal. he says whatever he says, it is what it is"

Asked why he liked him, he said "They're getting rid of illegal immigrants. It's time for themto go. They're benefiting off of us. We're working hard and they're benefiting off of it. And since he's been in office i've been making more money. People need to get off their lazy asses and support yourself."

When asked what he would tell people about his garb, he said "I tell them all the time. You believe what you believe. I believe what i believe My black friends know me and they respect me as a man. So they say what they believe and leave it at that. It is not racist, it is heritage and the south fought for what they believed help their economy at the time and if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't be here. Black people forget about that and only look at the bad but not the good it did for us in the end.".

When Dailymail asked the Republican Party of Virginia if they endorse the flag, Tina Maples, the Chairwoman said "I will just say that the Republican Party, we believe in equal rights for all people and welcome all people. We don't stand for racism, we oppose that. We think everyone deserves equal opportunities"

Do you think Michael is Brainwashed?

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Bulbasaur
11/03/19 10:11:49 PM
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he uh

did someone not tell him that the confederates whole thing for the war was they wanted to keep black people as slaves?
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Zeus
11/03/19 10:38:29 PM
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Kinda feels like a great example of Poe's Law. That said, it makes for a stylish jacket and he rocks the look pretty well.

Bulbasaur posted...
did someone not tell him that the confederates whole thing for the war was they wanted to keep black people as slaves?


https://youtu.be/SFwHQYDqf6c
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Zedonra
11/03/19 11:05:29 PM
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Dey tuk ur jerbs
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SKARDAVNELNATE
11/03/19 11:13:33 PM
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I think other people are brainwashed into calling everything racist.
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BlackScythe0
11/03/19 11:14:26 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
he uh

did someone not tell him that the confederates whole thing for the war was they wanted to keep black people as slaves?


That isn't even what it's about. It disappeared after the civil war. The modern usage of the flag stems from the late 40's when the civil rights movement was getting it's start and people who stood against them used the flag as a symbol of unity. It's since been used world wide by racist groups.

I'm able to accept that people say the flag means things other than racism to them personally, but it doesn't change the fact that the flag is a symbol of hate.
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The_tall_midget
11/03/19 11:16:31 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I think other people are brainwashed into calling everything racist.


You do realize that lefties love to label everyone racists, but then turn around and blame everything on people being white, demanding special privileges based entirely on race, and are constantly playing the race card for everything?
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SkynyrdRocker
11/03/19 11:19:20 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Bulbasaur posted...
he uh

did someone not tell him that the confederates whole thing for the war was they wanted to keep black people as slaves?


That isn't even what it's about. It disappeared after the civil war. The modern usage of the flag stems from the late 40's when the civil rights movement was getting it's start and people who stood against them used the flag as a symbol of unity. It's since been used world wide by racist groups.

I'm able to accept that people say the flag means things other than racism to them personally, but it doesn't change the fact that the flag is a symbol of hate.

Yep. I'm glad to see this. My dad was a history teacher and explained to me that the "heritage, not hate" thing does not have a basis in what actually happened with the flag coming back into usage.
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Lokarin
11/03/19 11:20:17 PM
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If ye ain't a confederate, yur a dirty profederate
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SKARDAVNELNATE
11/03/19 11:23:28 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I think other people are brainwashed into calling everything racist.

You do realize that lefties love to label everyone racists, but then turn around and blame everything on people being white, demanding special privileges based entirely on race, and are constantly playing the race card for everything?

Of course I realize that. Who else did you think I was referring to?
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Zeus
11/04/19 12:51:04 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
The modern usage of the flag stems from the late 40's when the civil rights movement was getting it's start and people who stood against them used the flag as a symbol of unity. It's since been used world wide by racist groups.


We could solve a mystery, or re-write history!

SkynyrdRocker posted...

Yep. I'm glad to see this. My dad was a history teacher and explained to me that the "heritage, not hate" thing does not have a basis in what actually happened with the flag coming back into usage.


*sigh*

Right about now I should mention that my brother had a history PROFESSOR who argued that slavery was invented by whites and no other culture practiced it.
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SkynyrdRocker
11/04/19 8:25:00 AM
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Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
The modern usage of the flag stems from the late 40's when the civil rights movement was getting it's start and people who stood against them used the flag as a symbol of unity. It's since been used world wide by racist groups.


We could solve a mystery, or re-write history!

SkynyrdRocker posted...

Yep. I'm glad to see this. My dad was a history teacher and explained to me that the "heritage, not hate" thing does not have a basis in what actually happened with the flag coming back into usage.


*sigh*

Right about now I should mention that my brother had a history PROFESSOR who argued that slavery was invented by whites and no other culture practiced it.

I mean, you're a paid Russian troll, so I doubt that very much
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PK_Spam
11/04/19 11:37:53 AM
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Imagine being that brainwashed and willingly surrounding yourself with people who will curse you and the ground you stand on the moment youre out of ear shot.

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TheWorstPoster
11/04/19 11:54:22 AM
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PK_Spam posted...
Imagine being that brainwashed and willingly surrounding yourself with people who will curse you and the ground you stand on the moment youre out of ear shot.


You mean the Democrats who are protesting outside?
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SunWuKung420
11/04/19 11:57:55 AM
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Is that Clayton Bigsby?

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PK_Spam
11/04/19 12:04:45 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
You mean the Democrats who are protesting outside?
A lot of democrats are racist too. You think you got me trapped? Im not a democrat, you jobless loser.

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bulbinking
11/04/19 1:20:51 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
he uh

did someone not tell him that the confederates whole thing for the war was they wanted to keep black people as slaves?


Actually it was about the northern states realizing that the south was quickly gaining power and about to control the union as a result from economic expansion fueled by slaves and that northern industries couldnt compete with as their economies were based on skilled labor so they wanted to remove the workforce from the equation as lincoln felt after the last war the nation had a dramatic power shift would cripple the budding united states too much and cause the nation to fall about in a civil war

So he started a civil war...

He also didnt free the slaves, and only in the south if even that.

The war was not about social justice in the slightest. It was a power struggle pure and simple between the autonomy of the state vs the authority of the union and now its all been dumbed down into a simple racists vs goodguys narrative because thats easy to teach in public schools and a better narrative for authoritarians to push on people anyway so nobody ever sympathizes for what happened to the south and its plight to become independent much like the idea our country itself was founded on.
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afrodude77
11/04/19 1:43:16 PM
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He ought to come down south sometime

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BlackScythe0
11/04/19 2:20:53 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Bulbasaur posted...
he uh

did someone not tell him that the confederates whole thing for the war was they wanted to keep black people as slaves?


Actually it was about the northern states realizing that the south was quickly gaining power and about to control the union as a result from economic expansion fueled by slaves and that northern industries couldnt compete with as their economies were based on skilled labor so they wanted to remove the workforce from the equation as lincoln felt after the last war the nation had a dramatic power shift would cripple the budding united states too much and cause the nation to fall about in a civil war

So he started a civil war...

He also didnt free the slaves, and only in the south if even that.

The war was not about social justice in the slightest. It was a power struggle pure and simple between the autonomy of the state vs the authority of the union and now its all been dumbed down into a simple racists vs goodguys narrative because thats easy to teach in public schools and a better narrative for authoritarians to push on people anyway so nobody ever sympathizes for what happened to the south and its plight to become independent much like the idea our country itself was founded on.


I'm not seeing a /s...

Jesus Christ the conspiracy theories people are coming up with.
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ForteEXE3850
11/04/19 2:24:16 PM
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It's basically that episode of South Park where the towns people were not racist but they didn't want to change their flag because they were proud of their history.
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Lokarin
11/04/19 2:30:53 PM
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ForteEXE3850 posted...
It's basically that episode of South Park where the towns people were not racist but they didn't want to change their flag because they were proud of their history.


And then they caved to compromise and ended up confusing the kids, who were the ones who actually cared in the first place.
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bulbinking
11/04/19 2:30:57 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
bulbinking posted...
Bulbasaur posted...
he uh

did someone not tell him that the confederates whole thing for the war was they wanted to keep black people as slaves?


Actually it was about the northern states realizing that the south was quickly gaining power and about to control the union as a result from economic expansion fueled by slaves and that northern industries couldnt compete with as their economies were based on skilled labor so they wanted to remove the workforce from the equation as lincoln felt after the last war the nation had a dramatic power shift would cripple the budding united states too much and cause the nation to fall about in a civil war

So he started a civil war...

He also didnt free the slaves, and only in the south if even that.

The war was not about social justice in the slightest. It was a power struggle pure and simple between the autonomy of the state vs the authority of the union and now its all been dumbed down into a simple racists vs goodguys narrative because thats easy to teach in public schools and a better narrative for authoritarians to push on people anyway so nobody ever sympathizes for what happened to the south and its plight to become independent much like the idea our country itself was founded on.


I'm not seeing a /s...

Jesus Christ the conspiracy theories people are coming up with.


Wth are you talking about conspiracy? Pick up any history book written before the 90s

https://medium.com/@jonathanusa/everything-you-know-about-the-civil-war-is-wrong-9e94f0118269
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Raddest_Chad
11/04/19 4:28:03 PM
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Hes not wrong about the without slavery he wouldnt be in America part. He probably wouldnt have ever existed. But even so, that hardly justifies what was done and what is still going on to a lesser extent.
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BlackScythe0
11/04/19 7:28:50 PM
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bulbinking posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
bulbinking posted...
Bulbasaur posted...
he uh

did someone not tell him that the confederates whole thing for the war was they wanted to keep black people as slaves?


Actually it was about the northern states realizing that the south was quickly gaining power and about to control the union as a result from economic expansion fueled by slaves and that northern industries couldnt compete with as their economies were based on skilled labor so they wanted to remove the workforce from the equation as lincoln felt after the last war the nation had a dramatic power shift would cripple the budding united states too much and cause the nation to fall about in a civil war

So he started a civil war...

He also didnt free the slaves, and only in the south if even that.

The war was not about social justice in the slightest. It was a power struggle pure and simple between the autonomy of the state vs the authority of the union and now its all been dumbed down into a simple racists vs goodguys narrative because thats easy to teach in public schools and a better narrative for authoritarians to push on people anyway so nobody ever sympathizes for what happened to the south and its plight to become independent much like the idea our country itself was founded on.


I'm not seeing a /s...

Jesus Christ the conspiracy theories people are coming up with.


Wth are you talking about conspiracy? Pick up any history book written before the 90s

https://medium.com/@jonathanusa/everything-you-know-about-the-civil-war-is-wrong-9e94f0118269


Yay white washing.

Lincoln did not run on ending slavery in slave states. He ran on stopping the expansion of slavery in new states. It's why he wasn't even on the ballot in some of the southern states and still won. The writing was on the wall for slavery it was only a matter of time. So they betrayed the nation citing slavery as their reason for doing so.

So do I trust you and your selective sources attempting to white wash history? I think I'll just take the people themselves at their word.

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bulbinking
11/05/19 4:42:30 AM
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Its kindve like how we told everybody we went to war over 9/11 when it was really about the oil.

Why did they want to keep slaves?
Money and power.

Why did the north want to abolish slavery? To take away the money and power of a growing threat to greater unification under a single banner.

Brothers and sisters fought each other in the civil war and nobody kills their family over social justice.

Slavery is a red herring. It just happened to be the catalyst of what caused a power struggle between two sides and it just happened that africans were the slaves of choice at the time.

Its a disservice to the hundreds of thousands who lost their lives to simplify such a conflict because it makes vilifying the losing side easier or because people still take the conflict personally.
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BlackScythe0
11/05/19 1:08:49 PM
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Yep, abolitionists did what they did at great risk to personal safety because they were concerned about the economics of fellow americans. Harriet Tubman just so concerned about economics.
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bulbinking
11/05/19 2:37:46 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Yep, abolitionists did what they did at great risk to personal safety because they were concerned about the economics of fellow americans. Harriet Tubman just so concerned about economics.


Black americans killed eachother to gain their freedom?

I guarantee you white people didnt kill eachother just to free the slaves.

Thats the point.
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BlackScythe0
11/05/19 3:04:58 PM
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bulbinking posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Yep, abolitionists did what they did at great risk to personal safety because they were concerned about the economics of fellow americans. Harriet Tubman just so concerned about economics.


Black americans killed eachother to gain their freedom?

I guarantee you white people didnt kill eachother just to free the slaves.

Thats the point.


No the war was fought over treason.

Slavery was the reason they betrayed the nation.
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bulbinking
11/05/19 3:39:51 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
bulbinking posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Yep, abolitionists did what they did at great risk to personal safety because they were concerned about the economics of fellow americans. Harriet Tubman just so concerned about economics.


Black americans killed eachother to gain their freedom?

I guarantee you white people didnt kill eachother just to free the slaves.

Thats the point.


No the war was fought over treason.

Slavery was the reason they betrayed the nation.


https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/review/is-secession-treason/

Its a modern thing to call it treason.

You are so brainwashed dude.

If it wasnt for slaves (which the north had and didnt free until after the war too) people would be much more sympathetic to the south

Well, except for authoritarians

Lincoln didnt even care about abolishing slavery until it could be used as a powerful political tool. This was long after tariffs and other conflicts where pushing the southern states away from the north in public support.

Lincoln needed to hit the south where it hurt them the most and that was taking away their labor.

Was it the ethically correct thing to do? Absolutely!

Was it done BECAUSE of ethical reasons? Absolutely not.

And at the time if it happening public opinion was even further split on slavery being wrong so no the civil war was not to punish the traitors or free the slaves, it was about stopping an independent power from growing strong enough to upset the status quo of which group influenced the majority of the unions political power
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afrodude77
11/05/19 4:29:16 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Its kindve like how we told everybody we went to war over 9/11 when it was really about the oil.

Why did they want to keep slaves?
Money and power.

Why did the north want to abolish slavery? To take away the money and power of a growing threat to greater unification under a single banner.

Brothers and sisters fought each other in the civil war and nobody kills their family over social justice.

Slavery is a red herring. It just happened to be the catalyst of what caused a power struggle between two sides and it just happened that africans were the slaves of choice at the time.

Its a disservice to the hundreds of thousands who lost their lives to simplify such a conflict because it makes vilifying the losing side easier or because people still take the conflict personally.


Plus the Democrats wanted to expand slavery whereas the Republicans were interested in using white labor for the jobs as opposed to slave labor

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bulbinking
11/05/19 5:03:00 PM
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afrodude77 posted...
Plus the Democrats wanted to expand slavery whereas the Republicans were interested in using white labor for the jobs as opposed to slave labor


Kindve

Its more like the industrialization of the north benefitted from child labor more easily than slave labor

Tiny educated bodies and all that.
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