Current Events > Amber Guyger trial live (police shooting of man in his own home)

Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 8
Southernfatman 09/25/19 8:24:02 AM #51:	Spoiler alert ~~She'll get a slap on the wrist, if anything.~~ --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:927916460] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Spoiler alert She'll get a slap on the wrist, if anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 09/25/19 8:25:45 AM #52:	It was obviously an accident, but she killed someone. She ended an innocent life, and for doing it she needs to pay. A life for a life. Life in prison. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018. Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 100000 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:927916510] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>It was obviously an accident, but she killed someone. She ended an innocent life, and for doing it she needs to pay. A life for a life. Life in prison. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 09/25/19 8:28:04 AM #53:	Dyinglegacy posted... It was obviously an accident, but she killed someone. She ended an innocent life, and for doing it she needs to pay. A life for a life. Life in prison. It wasn't an accident. She decided to kill someone while not knowing what was going on. --- https://imgtc.com/i/gl6tuJ6.png <cite>Blighboy posted [p:927916561] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>It was obviously an accident, but she killed someone. She ended an innocent life, and for doing it she needs to pay. A life for a life. Life in prison. </quote> It wasn't an accident. She decided to kill someone while not knowing what was going on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 09/25/19 8:30:06 AM #54:	metallica846 posted... Hanky_Bannister posted... i do all the time. should i get murdered by a dumb pilled up pig? Not unlocked...OPEN. You make me sick. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:927916604] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted... </cite> <quote> i do all the time. should i get murdered by a dumb pilled up pig?</quote> Not unlocked...OPEN. </quote> You make me sick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 09/25/19 9:11:48 AM #55:	brandunh11 posted... Day 2 has been going on for 2.5 hours so far. Only two witnesses called to the stand so far. Most relevant of the two was one of the officers who responded to the 911 call and immediately administered first aid techniques to Botham. Body cam footage from the officer was shown. The prosecution is really highlighting the fact that Amber did not offer any first aid assistance while waiting on other officers to arrive even though shes trained to do so. 10 years seems fair. /s --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:927917585] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted...</cite> <quote>Day 2 has been going on for 2.5 hours so far. Only two witnesses called to the stand so far. Most relevant of the two was one of the officers who responded to the 911 call and immediately administered first aid techniques to Botham. Body cam footage from the officer was shown. The prosecution is really highlighting the fact that Amber did not offer any first aid assistance while waiting on other officers to arrive even though shes trained to do so. </quote> 10 years seems fair. /s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 09/25/19 9:13:17 AM #56:	Blighboy posted... It wasn't an accident. She decided to kill someone while not knowing what was going on. Accident in the sense that there wasn't malice involved. Like, she didn't purposely invade his home with the intent to kill him. She thought it was her home and thought he was an invader. It was a terrible mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018. Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 100000 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:927917629] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Blighboy posted... </cite> <quote>It wasn't an accident. She decided to kill someone while not knowing what was going on.</quote> Accident in the sense that there wasn't malice involved. Like, she didn't purposely invade his home with the intent to kill him. She thought it was her home and thought he was an invader. It was a terrible mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexanaxela 09/25/19 9:15:57 AM #57:	as someone that's followed this case for the last year, guyger hasn't shown any competency as a human being except calling 911 doesn't know where she lives doesn't know the layout/items of her apartment doesn't try to engage in conversation, or identify herself as a police officer, or make any attempt to deescalate the situation. Instead her 1st response as a trained police officer is literally to draw her gun and start shooting at the big scary black man doesn't attempt to administer first aid while on the phone with 911, decides to text sex buddy instead doesn't attempt to administer first aid while waiting for police to arrive attempts to delete text messages and social media posts appeals being fired from the police department for killing a man in his own home because she doesnt know where she lives just everytime i think about this "case" it just pisses me off --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. <cite>Alexanaxela posted [p:927917712] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>as someone that's followed this case for the last year, guyger hasn't shown any competency as a human being except calling 911 doesn't know where she lives doesn't know the layout/items of her apartment doesn't try to engage in conversation, or identify herself as a police officer, or make any attempt to deescalate the situation. Instead her 1st response as a trained police officer is literally to draw her gun and start shooting at the big scary black man doesn't attempt to administer first aid while on the phone with 911, decides to text sex buddy instead doesn't attempt to administer first aid while waiting for police to arrive attempts to delete text messages and social media posts appeals being fired from the police department for killing a man in his own home because she doesnt know where she lives just everytime i think about this "case" it just pisses me off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 09/25/19 9:18:06 AM #58:	Dyinglegacy posted... Accident in the sense that there wasn't malice involved. Like, she didn't purposely invade his home with the intent to kill him. She thought it was her home and thought he was an invader. I would think there was definite malice when she was texting while he bled out on the floor. The "excuse" of her thinking it was her home is rendered even more worthless unless she was still under the impression it was her apartment when the next cop showed up and administered first aid. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:927917776] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Dyinglegacy posted... </cite> <quote>Accident in the sense that there wasn't malice involved. Like, she didn't purposely invade his home with the intent to kill him. She thought it was her home and thought he was an invader.</quote> I would think there was definite malice when she was texting while he bled out on the floor. The "excuse" of her thinking it was her home is rendered even more worthless unless she was still under the impression it was her apartment when the next cop showed up and administered first aid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 09/25/19 9:20:20 AM #59:	Southernfatman posted... Spoiler alert ~~She'll get a slap on the wrist, if anything.~~ Obviously. <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:927917839] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Spoiler alert She'll get a slap on the wrist, if anything.</quote> Obviously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 10:15:24 AM #60:	Kastrada posted... I would think there was definite malice when she was texting while he bled out on the floor. The "excuse" of her thinking it was her home is rendered even more worthless unless she was still under the impression it was her apartment when the next cop showed up and administered first aid. I dont really see how your logic follows. Are you saying texting her partner proves that she really wanted Botham to die? By all accounts, she had no idea who he was until that moment. Its pretty clear from the 9-1-1 call and body cam footage from the responding officers that she was flustered and still trying to process what had just happened. Its not like she just started having casual text conversation with her partner. She was texting him things like Im screwed and I screwed up. Seems like she was slowly processing that her life was about to change forever. It was definitely irresponsible of her to not administer any first aid attempts, but I dont see how that equates to malice, especially in the legal sense. Anyway, Day 3 is starting. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927919667] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted... </cite> <quote>I would think there was definite malice when she was texting while he bled out on the floor. The "excuse" of her thinking it was her home is rendered even more worthless unless she was still under the impression it was her apartment when the next cop showed up and administered first aid.</quote> I dont really see how your logic follows. Are you saying texting her partner proves that she really wanted Botham to die? By all accounts, she had no idea who he was until that moment. Its pretty clear from the 9-1-1 call and body cam footage from the responding officers that she was flustered and still trying to process what had just happened. Its not like she just started having casual text conversation with her partner. She was texting him things like Im screwed and I screwed up. Seems like she was slowly processing that her life was about to change forever. It was definitely irresponsible of her to not administer any first aid attempts, but I dont see how that equates to malice, especially in the legal sense. Anyway, Day 3 is starting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/25/19 10:15:51 AM #61:	metallica846 posted... I'm from Dallas and this shit pissed me off so much. I'm hazy on the details, but I remember that she may have been drunk or something? Terrible situation all around. Not sure what she deserves for killing that guy. Wasn't his door ajar when she went in? Who leaves their door just open? Yeah, she was drunk --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:927919685] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm from Dallas and this shit pissed me off so much. I'm hazy on the details, but I remember that she may have been drunk or something? Terrible situation all around. Not sure what she deserves for killing that guy. Wasn't his door ajar when she went in? Who leaves their door just open?</quote>Yeah, she was drunk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 10:17:40 AM #62:	pres_madagascar posted... Yeah, she was drunk No she wasnt. Toxicology report came back 100% clean. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927919769] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>pres_madagascar posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, she was drunk</quote> No she wasnt. Toxicology report came back 100% clean. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/25/19 10:18:13 AM #63:	brandunh11 posted... No she wasnt. Toxicology report came back 100% clean. So she's just dumb then. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:927919793] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted... </cite> <quote>No she wasnt. Toxicology report came back 100% clean.</quote>So she's just dumb then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 10:20:19 AM #64:	pres_madagascar posted... So she's just dumb then. I guess so --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927919876] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>pres_madagascar posted... </cite> <quote>So she's just dumb then.</quote> I guess so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 09/25/19 10:22:01 AM #65:	brandunh11 posted... pres_madagascar posted... So she's just dumb then. I guess so that should be even more punishment. stupid murderer. 2 times the punishment --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927919945] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted...</cite> <quote>pres_madagascar posted... </cite> <quote>So she's just dumb then.</quote> I guess so </quote> that should be even more punishment. stupid murderer. 2 times the punishment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 12:20:12 PM #66:	Some interesting notes: -Texas Rangers investigated the case and interviewed 297 of the 393 residents in the apartment complex -46 tenants, or 15% of the total, have accidentally placed their key in wrong door -38 tenants, or 23% of residents on floors 3 and 4, had accidentally placed their key in the wrong door -92 tenants had at least walked to the wrong apartment on the wrong floor -71 of these 92 were on floors 3 and 4 (Guyger and Jean lived on floors 3 and 4 respectively). Im a bit pissed right now after hearing Texas Ranger David Armstrongs testimony. He was one of the investigators in the case. He basically said that it was reasonable for Amber to believe she was in her own apartment and that Botham was a deadly threat. He said that she had no other options (not true), it was reasonable for her to shoot him, and that he believed no crime had occurred. The judge later struck down all his testimony related to the reasonableness of the shooting and speculations as to Amber Guygers mind state. This is that blue wall in action. Theres no way he would say this if the shooter was a non-officer. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927924858] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Some interesting notes: -Texas Rangers investigated the case and interviewed 297 of the 393 residents in the apartment complex -46 tenants, or 15% of the total, have accidentally placed their key in wrong door -38 tenants, or 23% of residents on floors 3 and 4, had accidentally placed their key in the wrong door -92 tenants had at least walked to the wrong apartment on the wrong floor -71 of these 92 were on floors 3 and 4 (Guyger and Jean lived on floors 3 and 4 respectively). Im a bit pissed right now after hearing Texas Ranger David Armstrongs testimony. He was one of the investigators in the case. He basically said that it was reasonable for Amber to believe she was in her own apartment and that Botham was a deadly threat. He said that she had no other options (not true), it was reasonable for her to shoot him, and that he believed no crime had occurred. The judge later struck down all his testimony related to the reasonableness of the shooting and speculations as to Amber Guygers mind state. This is that blue wall in action. Theres no way he would say this if the shooter was a non-officer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 09/25/19 12:27:04 PM #67:	brandunh11 posted... Some interesting notes: -Texas Rangers investigated the case and interviewed 297 of the 393 residents in the apartment complex -46 tenants, or 15% of the total, have accidentally placed their key in wrong door -38 tenants, or 23% of residents on floors 3 and 4, had accidentally placed their key in the wrong door -92 tenants had at least walked to the wrong apartment on the wrong floor -71 of these 92 were on floors 3 and 4 (Guyger and Jean lived on floors 3 and 4 respectively). Im a bit pissed right now after hearing Texas Ranger David Armstrongs testimony. He was one of the investigators in the case. He basically said that it was reasonable for Amber to believe she was in her own apartment and that Botham was a deadly threat. He said that she had no other options (not true), it was reasonable for her to shoot him, and that he believed no crime had occurred. The judge later struck down all his testimony related to the reasonableness of the shooting and speculations as to Amber Guygers mind state. This is that blue wall in action. Theres no way he would say this if the shooter was a non-officer. he's a pig so he's gonna defend pigs to the end. its disgusting and shameful bu tthis is what they ALL do. --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927925148] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted...</cite> <quote>Some interesting notes: -Texas Rangers investigated the case and interviewed 297 of the 393 residents in the apartment complex -46 tenants, or 15% of the total, have accidentally placed their key in wrong door -38 tenants, or 23% of residents on floors 3 and 4, had accidentally placed their key in the wrong door -92 tenants had at least walked to the wrong apartment on the wrong floor -71 of these 92 were on floors 3 and 4 (Guyger and Jean lived on floors 3 and 4 respectively). Im a bit pissed right now after hearing Texas Ranger David Armstrongs testimony. He was one of the investigators in the case. He basically said that it was reasonable for Amber to believe she was in her own apartment and that Botham was a deadly threat. He said that she had no other options (not true), it was reasonable for her to shoot him, and that he believed no crime had occurred. The judge later struck down all his testimony related to the reasonableness of the shooting and speculations as to Amber Guygers mind state. This is that blue wall in action. Theres no way he would say this if the shooter was a non-officer. </quote> he's a pig so he's gonna defend pigs to the end. its disgusting and shameful bu tthis is what they ALL do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 09/25/19 12:34:43 PM #68:	"This has happened 46 times before and she's the only one who killed somebody" should be an argument against her for fuck's sake. --- https://imgtc.com/i/gl6tuJ6.png <cite>Blighboy posted [p:927925496] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>"This has happened 46 times before and she's the only one who killed somebody" should be an argument against her for fuck's sake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/25/19 12:35:57 PM #69:	A man in his goddamn boxers with food in his hand was a deadly threat. Fuck Armstrong --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:927925560] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>A man in his goddamn boxers with food in his hand was a deadly threat. Fuck Armstrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 09/25/19 12:37:08 PM #70:	Blue_Inigo posted... A man in his goddamn boxers with food in his hand was a deadly threat. Fuck Armstrong any food item is a gun.... deadly threat etc. --- The act of treachery is an art, but the traitor himself is a piece of **** - Mike Tyson <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:927925613] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>A man in his goddamn boxers with food in his hand was a deadly threat. Fuck Armstrong</quote> any food item is a gun.... deadly threat etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 12:53:59 PM #71:	https://imgur.com/a/f0C8z09 Heres a timeline of events on the day of the shooting. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927926413] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/a/f0C8z09 Heres a timeline of events on the day of the shooting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/25/19 12:55:00 PM #72:	Alexanaxela posted... doesn't know the layout/items of her apartment this is a good point. I once accidentally got off on the wrong floor and opened a stranger's apartment door. the second I saw inside I realized it wasn't my place cause it looked all different. from all the descriptions of this event I have read, it sounds like this cop had a million different clues it wasn't her place. and she seems to have ignored them all <cite>Zikten posted [p:927926454] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Alexanaxela posted...</cite> <quote> doesn't know the layout/items of her apartment</quote> this is a good point. I once accidentally got off on the wrong floor and opened a stranger's apartment door. the second I saw inside I realized it wasn't my place cause it looked all different. from all the descriptions of this event I have read, it sounds like this cop had a million different clues it wasn't her place. and she seems to have ignored them all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 09/25/19 12:56:27 PM #73:	Zikten posted... cop had a million different clues it wasn't her place. and she seems to have ignored them all which is insanely pathetic if she was sober. how does a sober person miss all the clues?? hmmmm --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927926517] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote> cop had a million different clues it wasn't her place. and she seems to have ignored them all</quote> which is insanely pathetic if she was sober. how does a sober person miss all the clues?? hmmmm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/25/19 12:59:24 PM #74:	I'm in my boxers eating popcorn. Guess a cop has every right to kill me. I'm a deadly threat! --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:927926634] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>I'm in my boxers eating popcorn. Guess a cop has every right to kill me. I'm a deadly threat!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 09/25/19 1:06:03 PM #75:	Alexanaxela posted... as someone that's followed this case for the last year, guyger hasn't shown any competency as a human being except calling 911 doesn't know where she lives doesn't know the layout/items of her apartment doesn't try to engage in conversation, or identify herself as a police officer, or make any attempt to deescalate the situation. Instead her 1st response as a trained police officer is literally to draw her gun and start shooting at the big scary black man doesn't attempt to administer first aid while on the phone with 911, decides to text sex buddy instead doesn't attempt to administer first aid while waiting for police to arrive attempts to delete text messages and social media posts appeals being fired from the police department for killing a man in his own home because she doesnt know where she lives just everytime i think about this "case" it just pisses me off And the absolute bumble fuck cherry on top of all of this? Shes not going to see any real punishment from this. --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:927926903] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Alexanaxela posted...</cite> <quote>as someone that's followed this case for the last year, guyger hasn't shown any competency as a human being except calling 911 doesn't know where she lives doesn't know the layout/items of her apartment doesn't try to engage in conversation, or identify herself as a police officer, or make any attempt to deescalate the situation. Instead her 1st response as a trained police officer is literally to draw her gun and start shooting at the big scary black man doesn't attempt to administer first aid while on the phone with 911, decides to text sex buddy instead doesn't attempt to administer first aid while waiting for police to arrive attempts to delete text messages and social media posts appeals being fired from the police department for killing a man in his own home because she doesnt know where she lives just everytime i think about this "case" it just pisses me off</quote> And the absolute bumble fuck cherry on top of all of this? Shes not going to see any real punishment from this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 1:07:10 PM #76:	Zikten posted... this is a good point. I once accidentally got off on the wrong floor and opened a stranger's apartment door. the second I saw inside I realized it wasn't my place cause it looked all different. from all the descriptions of this event I have read, it sounds like this cop had a million different clues it wasn't her place. and she seems to have ignored them all To be just a bit fair, Bothams apartment and Ambers apartment have the same floor plan. Inside the apartment, their living rooms had similar layout (couch and tv in the same place). Plus the light was off when she entered. Today they released pictures of the inside of both apartments. You can find them on google and compare yourself. Definitely doesnt excuse the other clues she completely ignored though. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927926945] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>this is a good point. I once accidentally got off on the wrong floor and opened a stranger's apartment door. the second I saw inside I realized it wasn't my place cause it looked all different. from all the descriptions of this event I have read, it sounds like this cop had a million different clues it wasn't her place. and she seems to have ignored them all</quote> To be just a bit fair, Bothams apartment and Ambers apartment have the same floor plan. Inside the apartment, their living rooms had similar layout (couch and tv in the same place). Plus the light was off when she entered. Today they released pictures of the inside of both apartments. You can find them on google and compare yourself. Definitely doesnt excuse the other clues she completely ignored though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 09/25/19 1:09:19 PM #77:	brandunh11 posted... Zikten posted... this is a good point. I once accidentally got off on the wrong floor and opened a stranger's apartment door. the second I saw inside I realized it wasn't my place cause it looked all different. from all the descriptions of this event I have read, it sounds like this cop had a million different clues it wasn't her place. and she seems to have ignored them all To be just a bit fair, Bothams apartment and Ambers apartment have the same floor plan. Inside the apartment, their living rooms had similar layout (couch and tv in the same place). Plus the light was off when she entered. Today they released pictures of the inside of both apartments. You can find them on google and compare yourself. Definitely doesnt excuse the other clues she completely ignored though. getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not. --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927927046] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>this is a good point. I once accidentally got off on the wrong floor and opened a stranger's apartment door. the second I saw inside I realized it wasn't my place cause it looked all different. from all the descriptions of this event I have read, it sounds like this cop had a million different clues it wasn't her place. and she seems to have ignored them all</quote> To be just a bit fair, Bothams apartment and Ambers apartment have the same floor plan. Inside the apartment, their living rooms had similar layout (couch and tv in the same place). Plus the light was off when she entered. Today they released pictures of the inside of both apartments. You can find them on google and compare yourself. Definitely doesnt excuse the other clues she completely ignored though. </quote> getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 1:56:52 PM #78:	Hanky_Bannister posted... getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not. Im general, I agree with you. All Im saying is that you may need to turn on a light first depending on how dark it is. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927929153] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted... </cite> <quote>getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not.</quote> Im general, I agree with you. All Im saying is that you may need to turn on a light first depending on how dark it is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 09/25/19 1:59:20 PM #79:	get ready to find out if cops can walk into you house and gun you down for no probably cause and get away with it --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:927929284] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>get ready to find out if cops can walk into you house and gun you down for no probably cause and get away with it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexanaxela 09/25/19 2:05:25 PM #80:	brandunh11 posted... Hanky_Bannister posted... getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not. Im general, I agree with you. All Im saying is that you may need to turn on a light first depending on how dark it is. no time for that. No time for talking. No time for identification. No time for deescalation. Must draw gun. Must shoot. Must kill ^ amber guyger's thought process --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. <cite>Alexanaxela posted [p:927929552] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote><cite>brandunh11 posted...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted... </cite> <quote> getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not.</quote> Im general, I agree with you. All Im saying is that you may need to turn on a light first depending on how dark it is. </quote> no time for that. No time for talking. No time for identification. No time for deescalation. Must draw gun. Must shoot. Must kill ^ amber guyger's thought process</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 09/25/19 2:05:55 PM #81:	Has she been convicted yet? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:927929580] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Has she been convicted yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexanaxela 09/25/19 2:08:25 PM #82:	And this david armstrong guy with his his "she had no other options, no crime has been committed" bullshit can go fuck right off --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. <cite>Alexanaxela posted [p:927929683] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>And this david armstrong guy with his his "she had no other options, no crime has been committed" bullshit can go fuck right off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 2:12:08 PM #83:	TommyG663513 posted... Has she been convicted yet? Trial is expected to take 2 weeks. Were on day 3. Alexanaxela posted... And this david armstrong guy with his his "she had no other options, no crime has been committed" bullshit can go fuck right off Agreed --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927929867] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>TommyG663513 posted... </cite> <quote>Has she been convicted yet?</quote> Trial is expected to take 2 weeks. Were on day 3. Alexanaxela posted... </cite> <quote>And this david armstrong guy with his his "she had no other options, no crime has been committed" bullshit can go fuck right off</quote> Agreed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 09/25/19 2:54:41 PM #84:	This woman is a piece of shit and that's clear as day. I'm in no way condoning what she did. But on a very basic level I can understand how someone could make that kinda mistake. Y'all have done equally stupid shit in your lives and don't tell me you haven't "Well they've never cost someone they're life" I'm sure someone is just eager to say. Yeah that's not the thing I'm calling into question. idk why it bothers me but even in cases like this where the woman is clearly in the wrong. I hate to see people acting like they can't even begin to understand how someone could make the same mistakes she did. Even when the TC is transcribing shit from the case about how other people in the apartment have all done similar things. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:927931819] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>This woman is a piece of shit and that's clear as day. I'm in no way condoning what she did. But on a very basic level I can understand how someone could make that kinda mistake. Y'all have done equally stupid shit in your lives and don't tell me you haven't "Well they've never cost someone they're life" I'm sure someone is just eager to say. Yeah that's not the thing I'm calling into question. idk why it bothers me but even in cases like this where the woman is clearly in the wrong. I hate to see people acting like they can't even begin to understand how someone could make the same mistakes she did. Even when the TC is transcribing shit from the case about how other people in the apartment have all done similar things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 09/25/19 2:56:01 PM #85:	SwayM posted... idk why it bothers me but even in cases like this where the woman is clearly in the wrong. I hate to see people acting like they can't even begin to understand how someone could make the same mistakes she did. Even when the TC is transcribing shit from the case about how other people in the apartment have all done similar things. Hanky_Bannister posted... getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not. --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927931891] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>idk why it bothers me but even in cases like this where the woman is clearly in the wrong. I hate to see people acting like they can't even begin to understand how someone could make the same mistakes she did. Even when the TC is transcribing shit from the case about how other people in the apartment have all done similar things. </quote> Hanky_Bannister posted...</cite> <quote>getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 09/25/19 2:56:44 PM #86:	Alexanaxela posted... as someone that's followed this case for the last year, guyger hasn't shown any competency as a human being except calling 911 doesn't know where she lives doesn't know the layout/items of her apartment doesn't try to engage in conversation, or identify herself as a police officer, or make any attempt to deescalate the situation. Instead her 1st response as a trained police officer is literally to draw her gun and start shooting at the big scary black man doesn't attempt to administer first aid while on the phone with 911, decides to text sex buddy instead doesn't attempt to administer first aid while waiting for police to arrive attempts to delete text messages and social media posts appeals being fired from the police department for killing a man in his own home because she doesnt know where she lives just everytime i think about this "case" it just pisses me off Pretty much. Sheds a really awful light on the kind of people that we hire to "protect and serve" us (as if everything else in recent history wasn't bad enough...this just straight up paints her as completely incompetent and unfit for any kind of duty). --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:927931930] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Alexanaxela posted...</cite> <quote>as someone that's followed this case for the last year, guyger hasn't shown any competency as a human being except calling 911 doesn't know where she lives doesn't know the layout/items of her apartment doesn't try to engage in conversation, or identify herself as a police officer, or make any attempt to deescalate the situation. Instead her 1st response as a trained police officer is literally to draw her gun and start shooting at the big scary black man doesn't attempt to administer first aid while on the phone with 911, decides to text sex buddy instead doesn't attempt to administer first aid while waiting for police to arrive attempts to delete text messages and social media posts appeals being fired from the police department for killing a man in his own home because she doesnt know where she lives just everytime i think about this "case" it just pisses me off</quote> Pretty much. Sheds a really awful light on the kind of people that we hire to "protect and serve" us (as if everything else in recent history wasn't bad enough...this just straight up paints her as completely incompetent and unfit for any kind of duty).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 09/25/19 3:02:35 PM #87:	Hanky_Bannister posted... SwayM posted... idk why it bothers me but even in cases like this where the woman is clearly in the wrong. I hate to see people acting like they can't even begin to understand how someone could make the same mistakes she did. Even when the TC is transcribing shit from the case about how other people in the apartment have all done similar things. Hanky_Bannister posted... getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not. You can't fathom someone making this mistake in an apartment where everything looks the same, getting off a 12 hour shift and being in autopilot. idk what to tell ya bro. You've done equally dumb shit in your life and I know you have because its human nature. Why is this the bone of contention in this case? --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:927932219] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>idk why it bothers me but even in cases like this where the woman is clearly in the wrong. I hate to see people acting like they can't even begin to understand how someone could make the same mistakes she did. Even when the TC is transcribing shit from the case about how other people in the apartment have all done similar things. </quote> Hanky_Bannister posted...</cite> <quote>getting off on the wrong floor is understandable, but not recognizing your own fucking home is not. </quote></quote> You can't fathom someone making this mistake in an apartment where everything looks the same, getting off a 12 hour shift and being in autopilot. idk what to tell ya bro. You've done equally dumb shit in your life and I know you have because its human nature. Why is this the bone of contention in this case?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 09/25/19 3:06:06 PM #88:	SwayM posted... Why is this the bone of contention in this case? what the fuck are you talking about? our "bone" is that she murdered someone and what exactly are you trying to achieve with your comments anyway? we already know is easy to mix up the apts. the rest we have explained ad nauseum. --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927932394] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>Why is this the bone of contention in this case?</quote> what the fuck are you talking about? our "bone" is that she murdered someone and what exactly are you trying to achieve with your comments anyway? we already know is easy to mix up the apts. the rest we have explained ad nauseum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 09/25/19 3:08:27 PM #89:	Yeah, if she hadn't murdered anyone, most people would laugh it off. The fact she was present enough to pull her gun and shoot yet still miss the obvious signs of this not being her residence, is the issue. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:927932505] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, if she hadn't murdered anyone, most people would laugh it off. The fact she was present enough to pull her gun and shoot yet still miss the obvious signs of this not being her residence, is the issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 09/25/19 3:09:20 PM #90:	Hanky_Bannister posted... SwayM posted... Why is this the bone of contention in this case? our "bone" is that she murdered someone Dude calm the fuck down. I'm well on your side. I'm just telling people to get over themselves and look beyond the fact that people make mistakes. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:927932551] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>Why is this the bone of contention in this case?</quote> our "bone" is that she murdered someone </quote> Dude calm the fuck down. I'm well on your side. I'm just telling people to get over themselves and look beyond the fact that people make mistakes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 09/25/19 5:58:16 PM #91:	brandunh11 posted... I dont really see how your logic follows. Are you saying texting her partner proves that she really wanted Botham to die? By all accounts, she had no idea who he was until that moment. Its pretty clear from the 9-1-1 call and body cam footage from the responding officers that she was flustered and still trying to process what had just happened. Its not like she just started having casual text conversation with her partner. She was texting him things like Im screwed and I screwed up. Seems like she was slowly processing that her life was about to change forever. It was definitely irresponsible of her to not administer any first aid attempts, but I dont see how that equates to malice, especially in the legal sense. I'm just talking in the general sense, not legal sense. She understood the levels of her crime and had one of two responses: 1. She couldn't handle what she did, which is odd considering she is a police officer and literally has training to deal with this. 2. She texted her partner and realized the severity of what just happened and still just let him bleed out. After shooting him, she realized he was not an intruder and yet still didn't help. Malice through inaction. My opinion of course, not in a legal sense. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:927940339] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted... </cite> <quote>I dont really see how your logic follows. Are you saying texting her partner proves that she really wanted Botham to die? By all accounts, she had no idea who he was until that moment. Its pretty clear from the 9-1-1 call and body cam footage from the responding officers that she was flustered and still trying to process what had just happened. Its not like she just started having casual text conversation with her partner. She was texting him things like Im screwed and I screwed up. Seems like she was slowly processing that her life was about to change forever. It was definitely irresponsible of her to not administer any first aid attempts, but I dont see how that equates to malice, especially in the legal sense.</quote> I'm just talking in the general sense, not legal sense. She understood the levels of her crime and had one of two responses: 1. She couldn't handle what she did, which is odd considering she is a police officer and literally has training to deal with this. 2. She texted her partner and realized the severity of what just happened and still just let him bleed out. After shooting him, she realized he was not an intruder and yet still didn't help. Malice through inaction. My opinion of course, not in a legal sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 09/25/19 7:09:02 PM #92:	Alexanaxela posted... And this david armstrong guy with his his "she had no other options, no crime has been committed" bullshit can go fuck right off ACAB --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:927943307] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Alexanaxela posted...</cite> <quote>And this david armstrong guy with his his "she had no other options, no crime has been committed" bullshit can go fuck right off</quote> ACAB</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexanaxela 09/25/19 8:08:04 PM #93:	St0rmFury posted... "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) lol i was there for this --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. <cite>Alexanaxela posted [p:927945953] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>"Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377)</quote> lol i was there for this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 8:23:00 PM #94:	Kastrada posted... I'm just talking in the general sense, not legal sense. She understood the levels of her crime and had one of two responses: 1. She couldn't handle what she did, which is odd considering she is a police officer and literally has training to deal with this. 2. She texted her partner and realized the severity of what just happened and still just let him bleed out. After shooting him, she realized he was not an intruder and yet still didn't help. Malice through inaction. My opinion of course, not in a legal sense. I get what you're saying and I totally agree that her behavior after the shooting was inappropriate, but I still don't see how you could classify it as malicious. Malice implies an intentional callousness which I just don't think is supported by the facts. I think she was genuinely in shock and that caused her to be negligent, not malicious, towards Botham. And yeah I get that police officers are trained to deal with tough situations, but all of that training assumes that somebody else is the perpetrator. No doubt, she never prepared for a situation in which she'd be on the other side of the law. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927946638] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted... </cite> <quote>I'm just talking in the general sense, not legal sense. She understood the levels of her crime and had one of two responses: 1. She couldn't handle what she did, which is odd considering she is a police officer and literally has training to deal with this. 2. She texted her partner and realized the severity of what just happened and still just let him bleed out. After shooting him, she realized he was not an intruder and yet still didn't help. Malice through inaction. My opinion of course, not in a legal sense.</quote> I get what you're saying and I totally agree that her behavior after the shooting was inappropriate, but I still don't see how you could classify it as malicious. Malice implies an intentional callousness which I just don't think is supported by the facts. I think she was genuinely in shock and that caused her to be negligent, not malicious, towards Botham. And yeah I get that police officers are trained to deal with tough situations, but all of that training assumes that somebody else is the perpetrator. No doubt, she never prepared for a situation in which she'd be on the other side of the law. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 09/25/19 8:24:02 PM #95:	death penalty only right outcome --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/gEfkzml.gif <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:927946683] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>death penalty only right outcome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 8:30:33 PM #96:	Overall day 3 wasn't too eventful. Mostly they just interviewed nearby residents who heard the shots. This included one resident who had actually made the mistake of inserting her key into the wrong door. Nobody actually saw anything though and the witnesses mostly only officially established facts we already knew. They also interviewed a bunch of forensics experts about specific details surrounding the shooting. One of those experts gave a timeline of events on the night of the shooting (see post #71). Unfortunately, i missed 2 hours of testimony due to having a meeting at work. The highlight for me was when the Texas Ranger David Armstrong tried to assert that "no crime had been committed" and the shooting was "reasonable". I literally almost cursed at my computer monitor while at work. Luckily, the prosecution objected and the judge struck down that portion of his testimony. The jury is not supposed to consider it for the trial, but the message has already been sent. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927946988] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Overall day 3 wasn't too eventful. Mostly they just interviewed nearby residents who heard the shots. This included one resident who had actually made the mistake of inserting her key into the wrong door. Nobody actually saw anything though and the witnesses mostly only officially established facts we already knew. They also interviewed a bunch of forensics experts about specific details surrounding the shooting. One of those experts gave a timeline of events on the night of the shooting (see post #71). Unfortunately, i missed 2 hours of testimony due to having a meeting at work. The highlight for me was when the Texas Ranger David Armstrong tried to assert that "no crime had been committed" and the shooting was "reasonable". I literally almost cursed at my computer monitor while at work. Luckily, the prosecution objected and the judge struck down that portion of his testimony. The jury is not supposed to consider it for the trial, but the message has already been sent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 09/25/19 8:32:17 PM #97:	brandunh11 posted... I get what you're saying and I totally agree that her behavior after the shooting was inappropriate, but I still don't see how you could classify it as malicious. Malice implies an intentional callousness which I just don't think is supported by the facts. I think she was genuinely in shock and that caused her to be negligent, not malicious, towards Botham. And yeah I get that police officers are trained to deal with tough situations, but all of that training assumes that somebody else is the perpetrator. No doubt, she never prepared for a situation in which she'd be on the other side of the law. Because she was rational enough to realize what had happened and placed her own concerns above his life. She was worried more for the blowback on herself and texted her fuck-buddy/partner to help with her own issues rather than tend to the man bleeding out on the floor. To me, that shows intentional callousness. If she were fetal-positioned on the ground or unable to do anything, I'd accept she was in shock. But she was able to call 911 (implying she understood the severity on what had happened) and instead of doing more, just focused on her own well-being. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:927947079] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted... </cite> <quote>I get what you're saying and I totally agree that her behavior after the shooting was inappropriate, but I still don't see how you could classify it as malicious. Malice implies an intentional callousness which I just don't think is supported by the facts. I think she was genuinely in shock and that caused her to be negligent, not malicious, towards Botham. And yeah I get that police officers are trained to deal with tough situations, but all of that training assumes that somebody else is the perpetrator. No doubt, she never prepared for a situation in which she'd be on the other side of the law.</quote> Because she was rational enough to realize what had happened and placed her own concerns above his life. She was worried more for the blowback on herself and texted her fuck-buddy/partner to help with her own issues rather than tend to the man bleeding out on the floor. To me, that shows intentional callousness. If she were fetal-positioned on the ground or unable to do anything, I'd accept she was in shock. But she was able to call 911 (implying she understood the severity on what had happened) and instead of doing more, just focused on her own well-being. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 09/25/19 8:37:20 PM #98:	Kastrada posted... brandunh11 posted... I get what you're saying and I totally agree that her behavior after the shooting was inappropriate, but I still don't see how you could classify it as malicious. Malice implies an intentional callousness which I just don't think is supported by the facts. I think she was genuinely in shock and that caused her to be negligent, not malicious, towards Botham. And yeah I get that police officers are trained to deal with tough situations, but all of that training assumes that somebody else is the perpetrator. No doubt, she never prepared for a situation in which she'd be on the other side of the law. Because she was rational enough to realize what had happened and placed her own concerns above his life. She was worried more for the blowback on herself and texted her fuck-buddy/partner to help with her own issues rather than tend to the man bleeding out on the floor. To me, that shows intentional callousness. If she were fetal-positioned on the ground or unable to do anything, I'd accept she was in shock. But she was able to call 911 (implying she understood the severity on what had happened) and instead of doing more, just focused on her own well-being. good point --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927947294] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted... </cite> <quote>I get what you're saying and I totally agree that her behavior after the shooting was inappropriate, but I still don't see how you could classify it as malicious. Malice implies an intentional callousness which I just don't think is supported by the facts. I think she was genuinely in shock and that caused her to be negligent, not malicious, towards Botham. And yeah I get that police officers are trained to deal with tough situations, but all of that training assumes that somebody else is the perpetrator. No doubt, she never prepared for a situation in which she'd be on the other side of the law.</quote> Because she was rational enough to realize what had happened and placed her own concerns above his life. She was worried more for the blowback on herself and texted her fuck-buddy/partner to help with her own issues rather than tend to the man bleeding out on the floor. To me, that shows intentional callousness. If she were fetal-positioned on the ground or unable to do anything, I'd accept she was in shock. But she was able to call 911 (implying she understood the severity on what had happened) and instead of doing more, just focused on her own well-being. </quote> good point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 09/25/19 8:53:51 PM #99:	If she gets acquitted... every cop will be able to just waltz in a stranger's home and start fanning the hammer. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:927948027] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>If she gets acquitted... every cop will be able to just waltz in a stranger's home and start fanning the hammer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 09/25/19 9:14:27 PM #100:	Kastrada posted... Because she was rational enough to realize what had happened and placed her own concerns above his life. She was worried more for the blowback on herself and texted her fuck-buddy/partner to help with her own issues rather than tend to the man bleeding out on the floor. To me, that shows intentional callousness. If she were fetal-positioned on the ground or unable to do anything, I'd accept she was in shock. But she was able to call 911 (implying she understood the severity on what had happened) and instead of doing more, just focused on her own well-being. Calling 9-1-1 does not mean you're not in shock or flustered. People frantically call 9-1-1 all the time while still actively in a state of shock. Seriously, just go listen to some random 9-1-1 calls. You seem to think that people in shock follow a specific set of behaviors (such as not calling 9-1-1 and balling up in the fetal position) which is not the case at all. It's difficult to predict how any specific person would respond to such a stressful situation. She was definitely more worried about herself though which is selfish. Not immediately administering CPR was bad judgement on her behalf, but calling it malice pretty much implies that she wanted Botham to die though which you're gonna have a hard time proving to anyone following the facts of the case. I don't even think the prosecution is taking that angle. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:927949039] in Amber Guyg... [t:78035349]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted... </cite> <quote>Because she was rational enough to realize what had happened and placed her own concerns above his life. She was worried more for the blowback on herself and texted her fuck-buddy/partner to help with her own issues rather than tend to the man bleeding out on the floor. To me, that shows intentional callousness. If she were fetal-positioned on the ground or unable to do anything, I'd accept she was in shock. But she was able to call 911 (implying she understood the severity on what had happened) and instead of doing more, just focused on her own well-being.</quote> Calling 9-1-1 does not mean you're not in shock or flustered. People frantically call 9-1-1 all the time while still actively in a state of shock. Seriously, just go listen to some random 9-1-1 calls. You seem to think that people in shock follow a specific set of behaviors (such as not calling 9-1-1 and balling up in the fetal position) which is not the case at all. It's difficult to predict how any specific person would respond to such a stressful situation. She was definitely more worried about herself though which is selfish. Not immediately administering CPR was bad judgement on her behalf, but calling it malice pretty much implies that she wanted Botham to die though which you're gonna have a hard time proving to anyone following the facts of the case. I don't even think the prosecution is taking that angle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 8

Current Events > Amber Guyger trial live (police shooting of man in his own home) (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Amber Guyger trial live (police shooting of man in his own home)