Poll of the Day > White Privilege

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Is it real or imagined in America?
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Completely imagined

It's imagined as every excuse seems to be related to a country's success, rather than an ethnic issue. You can be black and British and you'll be just as privileged as any white British. Any claim that black people are worse off because their ancestors came from impoverished areas is nonsense as they never experienced that weaker position, it's just a crutch.
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A privilege is something that can be granted/revoked.

So if it exists, it's the White Right, not privilege.
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Hoo boy. You guys lol
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EvilMegas posted...

Hoo boy. You guys lol

Please sling racial slurs ad nauseum as you usually do in these topics.
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EvilMegas posted...

Hoo boy. You guys lol

here we go
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In that white people have advantages that black/latin people don't?

Yeah, but it's both a huge generalization and an over simplification of race in America at least.
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CTLM posted...

Completely real

Its kinda like racial bonuses in Video games.

Some races or classes might be better suited as a Tank or as DPS.

Except in real life you cant necessarily choose if you are a tank but forced to tank anyways.

so lets say White People are the Tank and Black People are the DPS. Not exactly intended to do a whole lot of Tanking so they gotta work a little bit harder to stay alive while White People have an easier time.

Sorta like that.

The boss they are tanking is society as a whole.

Its about how society treats groups differently. In our example because White People are the Tank they have, overall, a generally easier time. Still difficult because Society sucks and all that. But you also dont have people randomly calling the guards to interrupt your tanking over dumb shit.

ok. Eh...

basically the idea of White Privilege is how people are treated based on race.

If if you are white youll always be assumed to be legal, even if you are speaking Spanish.

If you are Puerto Rican and speaking Spanish there is a good chance you will not be assumed legal.

The literal difference is one is a literal citizen and one is some bloke from Ireland. Oh and one is white and the other isnt.

Who is more likely to be harassed for speaking Spanish? Is it the White Dude from Ireland or is it the Puerto Rican?

Who is is more likely to have ICE called on them? Probably not the Irish Lad.

Both of them are walking down the street carrying a computer monitor they own.

Which one do you think will most likely be accused of stealing if the cop pass
by?

its not a hard concept too understand. The first 170 or so years had black people had less then human. With another 100 years where they were just treated as such legally. A hundred years following the civil war full of terrorists bombing and lynching and burning down black churches and neighborhoods.

a lot of this shit lingers. The Civil Rights Movement and the era of Jim Crow laws are well within living memory. At no point did it all just go away over night.

Of course in each scenario our Irish Pal could have been harassed, accused, and examined by ICE. Well within possibility. Absolutely.

It has nothing to do with wealth. Its so easy to go there because we have also labeled the wealthy as being Privileged. It also isnt about whether or not you have had hardships or not. Society is one hell of a boss that kicks everyones asses from time to time.

Its about how society treats us vs them. Whether its on an individual level(person to person) or laws or whatever.

Thats all.

Also the whole Check your privilege thing is about acknowledging that the reason the cops slapped you on the wrist while hauling another person to jail for the same crime might be because of White Privilege.

or something like that. Its not about guilt or shaming or anything like that though.

But this is GameFaqs and odds are I typed this for nothing.

ninja_lootz posted...

In that white people have advantages that black/latin people don't?

Yeah, but it's both a huge generalization and an over simplification of race in America at least.

Something along this line. You probably shouldn't look over at your neighbor from the the same building or street and complain about privileges when they're on the same sinking boat.

it exists

no single person can change that

and don't feel guilty about it. It is out of your control.
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Unit7 posted...

basically the idea of White Privilege is how people are treated based on race.

If if you are white youll always be assumed to be legal, even if you are speaking Spanish.

If you are Puerto Rican and speaking Spanish there is a good chance you will not be assumed legal.

The literal difference is one is a literal citizen and one is some bloke from Ireland. Oh and one is white and the other isnt.

Who is more likely to be harassed for speaking Spanish? Is it the White Dude from Ireland or is it the Puerto Rican?

Who is is more likely to have ICE called on them? Probably not the Irish Lad.

Both of them are walking down the street carrying a computer monitor they own.

Which one do you think will most likely be accused of stealing if the cop pass
by?

The thing is... this shit never actually happens. But if one crazy white lady calls ICE on some dude or one crazy white teacher makes some comment about a student being illegal, you're going to see it all over the news. And then for whatever reason, in a country of 350 million people, folks like you seem to think it's commonplace but it really isnt. I work at a tex mex place two nights a week and one of my best friends is a mexican with a DACA permit. This stuff isnt something any of them ever encounter. I have multiple mexican friends and they all go about their day just like me without harrassment. And they would definitely tell me if something happened lol. I know it's hard to believe but your average white person amd even the racist white people dont waste their time calling ICE on random brown people

It's just another case of the media making people think the world is collapsing but you go outside and the birds are chirping and the sun is shining. But it's more profitable for them to divide everyone

Lol at Caucasians claiming white privilege is exaggerated
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BUMPED2002 posted...

Is it real or imagined in America?

Depends on how much money you have.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Lol at Caucasians claiming white privilege is exaggerated

It is exaggerated a shitload by people who wanna make excuses for their shortcomings (tbh though it's actually mostly guilty white people that talk about it). Most of the black and hispanic people I know wouldnt make excuses like that and are too proud to complain about any bumps in the road they might encounter in life. Real men dont bitch about life being tough. They go out and get shit done without crying about meanie heads in the world

SunWuKung420 posted...

Lol at Caucasians claiming white privilege is exaggerated

What am I supposed to do with all this "privilege" that I am supposedly experiencing?

Let's see: I make too much money to qualify for help but not enough to get anywhere. If I were a different race, I would be ok as there a several programs in my county that extensively help minorities

Mounting debt. I'm supposed to be rich by now! This whole not getting ahead sucks

I don't get any grants or scholarships in college due to my race and circumstance, yet there have been people in my classes who get a free ride because of their race and being illegal immigrants.

I haven't been arrested because I don't break the law, so I can't really use that example. However; in the times I have, I knew how to act. Had a ticket for a blown headlight before, but it didn't go bad because I was polite and cooperative. You know, instead of acting like an entitled asshole and pick a fight, unlike my old neighbor who decided to start trying to punch a cop after her boyfriend got tasered (for trying to punch a cop).

I have been passed over for jobs, and less qualified people have gotten them. If I'm white, I thought this was going to be handed to me?

I have made less than my coworkers, both in newer employees and those with less experience. Aren't I supposed to be the best paid?

I have yet to experience this great privilege people speak of.

dedbus posted...

ninja_lootz posted...

In that white people have advantages that black/latin people don't?

Yeah, but it's both a huge generalization and an over simplification of race in America at least.

Something along this line. You probably shouldn't look over at your neighbor from the the same building or street and complain about privileges when they're on the same sinking boat.

Exactly this.

The other day I saw a black dude I went to high school with and used to hang out with repost a meme that showed a white guy and black guy at the starting line of a footrace. The white guy had two easy obstacles on the track and the black dude had saw blades and other brutal shit in his path. I just thought what a load of garbage. I went to the same school as this guy, had the same classes, played on the same baseball team and the dude came from a family that did well enough. So to me it was complete and utter nonsense. The guy had every opportunity I had but is basically blaming his shortcomings on simply being black. Naw bro, its because you had a kid when you were 19 with some cheating bimbo that left you. Own up to your shitty decisions. Its nobody's fault but your own

The perception is far more significant than the reality and is largely driven by a mix of self-promoting provocateurs and sensationalism. If a white man and a black man were both given the same kind of slap on the wrist for the same crime by a judge in the same week, you'd be far more likely to hear outrage over the white man's meager punishment and discussions how black men are treated worse (excluding socially conservative outlets where the reverse might be true, unless the white man is a liberal)

EvilMegas posted...

Hoo boy. You guys lol

What do you mean by "boy"? And what do you mean "you guys"? We gonna have a problem here?!

Unit7 posted...

If if you are white youll always be assumed to be legal, even if you are speaking Spanish.

....but Spanish-speaking blacks are assumed to be legal, so are Spanish-speaking Asians and Spanish-speaking Native Americans. Hell, so are Spanish-speaking Middle-Easterners. That's not a white issue, that's a demographic issue that comes from the fact that the bulk of visible illegal immigration comes from Central and South America.

Unit7 posted...

he literal difference is one is a literal citizen and one is some bloke from Ireland. Oh and one is white and the other isnt.

Who is more likely to be harassed for speaking Spanish? Is it the White Dude from Ireland or is it the Puerto Rican?

Who is is more likely to have ICE called on them? Probably not the Irish Lad.

Both of them are walking down the street carrying a computer monitor they own.

Which one do you think will most likely be accused of stealing if the cop pass
by?

First, anybody carrying a computer down the street is automatically suspicious because that's a long way to walking around with a computer. Second, you say "not white," but do you honestly believe that an Asian or even a Middle-Easterner might be questioned about that computer? Most cops might be inclined to pay less attention to an Asian man than a white man.

And you bring up ICE in this discussion, but ICE isn't receiving that many phone calls about non-Latinos/non-Hispanics because, once again, the US doesn't have as visible a problem with those other groups being in the country illegally.

But if we're just talking race, it's worth noting that Asians have a higher average income than whites:
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizations/2018/demo/p60-263/figure1.pdf

Is that because we're racist against whites?

How about racial disparity in our prisons? Non-hispanic whites make up 60.7% of the population and 58.6% of our Federal prison population, which is roughly representative. Meanwhile Asians make up 5.6% of the US's population, but only 1.5% of our prisons, which is a pretty fucking substantial difference as well.

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp
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Unit7 posted...

basically the idea of White Privilege is how people are treated based on race.

If if you are white youll always be assumed to be legal, even if you are speaking Spanish.

If you are Puerto Rican and speaking Spanish there is a good chance you will not be assumed legal.

The literal difference is one is a literal citizen and one is some bloke from Ireland. Oh and one is white and the other isnt.

Who is more likely to be harassed for speaking Spanish? Is it the White Dude from Ireland or is it the Puerto Rican?

Who is is more likely to have ICE called on them? Probably not the Irish Lad.

Both of them are walking down the street carrying a computer monitor they own.

Which one do you think will most likely be accused of stealing if the cop pass
by?

One looks more likely to be native than the other.

If you go to the border, do you think people are anywhere near as suspicious if they see a hispanic man there? No, because they blend in more with the local population.

If you go to Japan, who's going to look more like a tourist, an American ex-pat who's been living there for 20 years or a Korean man?

It's not white privilege, it's convenience of blending in. This also applies to cultural practices and matters a hell of a lot more. If you act differently to the local population, you will have less opportunities as you will be seen as an outsider. You could claim "but that's my Puerto Rican/Jamaican/Estonian culture!" but this is a matter of assimilation. When in the local population, you adapt to it and the people who refuse are the ones suffering from a lack of "white privilege".

SunWuKung420 posted...

Lol at Caucasians claiming white privilege is exaggerated

I'm not from the caucus.
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it exist but not every white person has white privilege, this isn't the 1950's/60's
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It's all in the heads of the far left.
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CTLM posted...

Completely imagined

This.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Lol at Caucasians claiming white privilege is exaggerated

Lol at Sunny claiming he can cook.
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CTLM posted...

Completely real

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Real but not nearly as widespread as some would like to believe.
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Keebs05 posted...

Real but not nearly as widespread as some would like to believe.

Basically yeah, real but very few have their lives drastically effected by this supposedly rampant privilege. It's a great way to be a racist and imply that white people dont have to work hard to be successful though

If you think it doesn't exist you don't know what it means.
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OhhhJa posted...

It's a great way to be a racist and imply that white people dont have to work hard to be successful though

don't have to work? no. have fewer roadblocks? yes absolutely
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TheWitchMorgana posted...

OhhhJa posted...

It's a great way to be a racist and imply that white people dont have to work hard to be successful though

don't have to work? no. have fewer roadblocks? yes absolutely

The biggest roadblock anyone faces in america is lack of wealth. Almost everything else can be summed up by poor decision making

ohhhh dude you're SO close. you ALMOST had it
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TheWitchMorgana posted...

ohhhh dude you're SO close. you ALMOST had it

I'd love for you to give me some concrete examples. But I'm sure you wont. You'll just be incorrect and angry and troll as usual

oh, i wasn't really looking for a debate or anything, sorry if i gave that impression
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TheWitchMorgana posted...

oh, i wasn't really looking for a debate or anything, sorry if i gave that impression

Oh I know. You'd have to actually have an argument as opposed to just wanting to blame made up external factors for having a shitty life

what the hell are you talking about my man you don't know my life
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TheWitchMorgana posted...

what the hell are you talking about my man you don't know my life

You: I'm not looking for a debate

Also you: wastes time making consecutive posts arguing

that's not even an argument though it's just you assuming about my life >_>
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TheWitchMorgana posted...

that's not even an argument though it's just you assuming about my life >_>

Yeah I know. You said you didnt want a debate so it's clear you're just here to troll so why I should I make a real effort

It only exists in the head of people who wants more free shit thrown at them. Instead of, you know, actually earning it. If anything, it's a testimony to how tolerant Caucasians are. I know of places on the planet, where Caucasians are not the most populous race, where other races/groups are not given HALF the tolerance the whining idiots are given in the west.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's imagined as every excuse seems to be related to a country's success, rather than an ethnic issue. You can be black and British and you'll be just as privileged as any white British. Any claim that black people are worse off because their ancestors came from impoverished areas is nonsense as they never experienced that weaker position, it's just a crutch.

As someone who thinks the "privilege' card is way too abused, this was just bad.
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Asian people arguably have it better than white people on all fronts.

Why isn't 'Asian privilege' a bigger topic?

Not that I have any problems with Asians.
I have an Asian friend and she's always super-nice to everyone.
More people should be like that instead of just hating stuff.
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I also will post in this topic

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OhhhJa posted...

TheWitchMorgana posted...

what the hell are you talking about my man you don't know my life

You: I'm not looking for a debate

Also you: wastes time making consecutive posts arguing

just ignore him then
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JOExHIGASHI posted...

it exists

no single person can change that

and don't feel guilty about it. It is out of your control.

every person can make an effort. in the same way you stamp out other forms of discrimination/abuse by simply not tolerating it and influencing others to change as well.

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Branding the lack social adversity white people face as White Privilege was a huge mistake.

Yes, it exists, but how much of it you're aware of is going to depend a lot on where you live or what people in your immediate social circle do, tbh.

Just for one example... if you take two identical copies of a job application and one has the name "Brad" and the other one has the name "Damian," the latter one will be rejected for hiring significantly more often than the former, despite the only difference on the documentation being that one has a name more associated with black people.

FinalFantasyVII posted...

Branding the lack social adversity white people face as White Privilege was a huge mistake.

I agree. It makes people take this stuff way too personally. In general poor terminology like this makes it difficult to talk about subjects with people not already very familiar with them and you usually end up spending the conversation trying to divorce their interpretation of it being some sort of personal attack from the topic at hand because if you can't, they'll just say it doesn't exist at all.

It's like when talking about how toxic masculinity may result in emotionally neglected boys committing suicide more often and someone runs in and starts losing their mind over how maleness isn't bad. They're getting torqued out of shape over the term rather than the substance.
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gloBal enemy posted...

JOExHIGASHI posted...

it exists

no single person can change that

and don't feel guilty about it. It is out of your control.

every person can make an effort. in the same way you stamp out other forms of discrimination/abuse by simply not tolerating it and influencing others to change as well.

White privilege isn't necessarily malicious or racist either though. So stamping it out might not be a solution even if one exists. Being aware of it is step but I don't know where to go from there.
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Do you believe that White people have a privilege that advantages them?

If yes, you are literally (if not contextually) a White Supremacist.
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Gaawa_chan posted...

Yes, it exists, but how much of it you're aware of is going to depend a lot on where you live or what people in your immediate social circle do, tbh.

Just for one example... if you take two identical copies of a job application and one has the name "Brad" and the other one has the name "Damian," the latter one will be rejected for hiring significantly more often than the former, despite the only difference on the documentation being that one has a name more associated with black people.

I agree. It makes people take this stuff way too personally. In general poor terminology like this makes it difficult to talk about subjects with people not already very familiar with them and you usually end up spending the conversation trying to divorce their interpretation of it being some sort of personal attack from the topic at hand because if you can't, they'll just say it doesn't exist at all.

It's like when talking about how toxic masculinity may result in emotionally neglected boys committing suicide more often and someone runs in and starts losing their mind over how maleness isn't bad. They're getting torqued out of shape over the term rather than the substance.

I understand the name on the job application but that could also be said for names up against Brad like "Bubba, Lula Mae, or Jim Bob." Name association carries more than just color.

I didn't realize "Damien" was considered a black name. I associate it with 'The Omen" movie and Damien was your ultimate white privileged kid in it. But, because of it, a positive association doesn't pop into my mind when I hear it.


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