Current Events > Should women(trans) Let you know before hooking up?

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darkprince45
08/24/19 11:22:51 PM
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Not a relationship or anything just like tinder or nightclub whatever.

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Questionmarktarius
08/24/19 11:24:59 PM
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pre: yes
post: i dunno, maybe?
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Hinakuluiau
08/24/19 11:25:05 PM
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If their genitals do not match what someone expects, yes. If not, no.
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Solid Snake07
08/24/19 11:29:26 PM
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They should for their own safety if nothing else
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LadyVyxx
08/24/19 11:31:01 PM
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Judt be upfront. Dont deceive people. If it's cool with them then great! If it's not then everyone moves on like adults and didnt waste each others time.
Same as someone say who's obese. Theres nothing wrong with that, but if you purposely hide pictures of yourself from the neck down and then you're surprised when you meet someone and they arent feeling it idk what to tell you.
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Vicious_Dios
08/24/19 11:32:48 PM
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Of course.

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DespondentDeity
08/24/19 11:33:28 PM
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How come guys don't just walk up and be like "sup ladies ya'll got dicks?"
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darkjedilink
08/24/19 11:44:09 PM
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Yes, trans people should admit they're trans, pre or post.

They're literally pretending.
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StealthRock
08/24/19 11:46:22 PM
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Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape
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AirFresh
08/24/19 11:55:05 PM
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Yes.
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Umbreon
08/25/19 12:00:44 AM
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Ideally they should.

It's just sad that doing so is potentially dangerous to them because assholes try to hurt them for being trans.
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TeaMilk
08/25/19 12:38:25 AM
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StealthRock posted...
Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape

Yikes
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 12:40:46 AM
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I really don't care
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smoliske
08/25/19 12:43:36 AM
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TeaMilk posted...
StealthRock posted...
Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape

Yikes


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception
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Dragonblade01
08/25/19 12:44:13 AM
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You should tell your partner anything that you think will matter to them.
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GATTJT
08/25/19 12:46:12 AM
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Yes they should but that comes with the risk of being attacked. Some dudes will go crazy if they even flirt with a trans person and then find out they're trans.

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Dragonblade01
08/25/19 12:47:37 AM
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smoliske posted...
TeaMilk posted...
StealthRock posted...
Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape

Yikes


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception

The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you.
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StealthRock
08/25/19 2:09:48 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
smoliske posted...
TeaMilk posted...
StealthRock posted...
Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape

Yikes


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception

The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you.

Lie of omission
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DarkChozoGhost
08/25/19 2:11:41 AM
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Yes, but attempting to use the "trans panic" defense in court for murder should be an automatic maximum sentence with no repeals.
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StealthRock
08/25/19 2:14:34 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Yes, but attempting to use the "trans panic" defense in court for murder should be an automatic maximum sentence with no repeals.

So another kneejerk/overreactive response to an already existing kneejerk/overreactive response?
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HANGtheDJ_86
08/25/19 2:17:16 AM
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I have a buddy who didn't find out until after he got to her apartment.

Not sure why he even bothered to tell us that he didn't go through with it. We're obviously just gonna assume what happened next. I was kinda jealous but it's not the type of thing I would tell most people. Especially if I was attempting to pursue a rap career like him.
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:20:13 AM
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Whatever they feel comfortable with. They have no obligation to do so, nor should they.
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Blue_Dream87
08/25/19 2:26:51 AM
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They have 0 obligation to, but I think it's probably a better idea than not. Everyone has their own reasons for withholding that info or to give it free, and it isn't fucking "rape by deception" if she isn't comfortable telling you.

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StealthRock
08/25/19 2:28:50 AM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
They have 0 obligation to, but I think it's probably a better idea than not. Everyone has their own reasons for withholding that info or to give it free, and it isn't fucking "rape by deception" if she isn't comfortable telling you.


Lol whoa!

It is rape. What if she hooks up with a man who has no desire to hook up with a transexual? But i guess what he wants doesnt matter. Only feelings that matter are the rapists
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Dragonblade01
08/25/19 2:36:46 AM
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StealthRock posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
smoliske posted...
TeaMilk posted...
StealthRock posted...
Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape

Yikes


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception

The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you.

Lie of omission

This implies people have an obligation to disclose something. Transgenders have no such obligation.
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:39:31 AM
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StealthRock posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
They have 0 obligation to, but I think it's probably a better idea than not. Everyone has their own reasons for withholding that info or to give it free, and it isn't fucking "rape by deception" if she isn't comfortable telling you.


Lol whoa!

It is rape. What if she hooks up with a man who has no desire to hook up with a transexual? But i guess what he wants doesnt matter. Only feelings that matter are the rapists

Except no, it isn't rape. At all. If he sees her nude and still goes through with it, there's no deception.
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SH_expert44
08/25/19 2:39:35 AM
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They should be required by law to let them know before hand.
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:40:09 AM
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SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Nope.
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SH_expert44
08/25/19 2:40:25 AM
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OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Nope.

yup
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:42:00 AM
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SH_expert44 posted...
OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Nope.

yup

Nope. There's literally no reason they should ever be required to reveal it, that decision should be entirely up to them. Their right to privacy, autonomy, and safety trumps the desire of some horny guy to get laid.
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SH_expert44
08/25/19 2:42:25 AM
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OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Nope.

yup

Nope. There's literally no reason they should ever be required to reveal it, that decision should be entirely up to them. Their right to privacy, autonomy, and safety trumps the desire of some horny guy to get laid.

Nah, that aint it chief. But thanks for trying.
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Dragonblade01
08/25/19 2:42:44 AM
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SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Why? If you find out, all you have to say is no and leave. Seems much better than legally requiring people to divulge private information on a date.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 2:43:05 AM
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daily reminder. Oct thinks calling someone a troll isn't actually insulting them or flaming them.

His understanding of logic is "nope"
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:43:14 AM
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SH_expert44 posted...
OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Nope.

yup

Nope. There's literally no reason they should ever be required to reveal it, that decision should be entirely up to them. Their right to privacy, autonomy, and safety trumps the desire of some horny guy to get laid.

Nah, that aint it chief. But thanks for trying.

Enjoy being wrong, having every reasonable person in the world know you're wrong, and never having anything of worth backing up your wrong opinion.
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:44:28 AM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
daily reminder. Oct thinks calling someone a troll isn't actually insulting them or flaming them.

Because it factually isn't. Outside the context of this board? Maybe. But Trolling on the internet has a meaning that doesn't imply flaming.
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SH_expert44
08/25/19 2:44:31 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Why? If you find out, all you have to say is no and leave. Seems much better than legally requiring people to divulge private information on a date.

For safety and peace of mind. People should also divulge things like if they have ever been convicted of a sex crime, or if they have and STD or ongoing pregnancy.

You can also talk to your doctor about it for more information.
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StealthRock
08/25/19 2:45:08 AM
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OctilIery posted...
StealthRock posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
They have 0 obligation to, but I think it's probably a better idea than not. Everyone has their own reasons for withholding that info or to give it free, and it isn't fucking "rape by deception" if she isn't comfortable telling you.


Lol whoa!

It is rape. What if she hooks up with a man who has no desire to hook up with a transexual? But i guess what he wants doesnt matter. Only feelings that matter are the rapists

Except no, it isn't rape. At all. If he sees her nude and still goes through with it, there's no deception.

Except it is

Doesnt matter how convincing they are. If a man doesnt want thay he has a right to know. But liberals love promoting deception so long as their feelings are ok
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StealthRock
08/25/19 2:45:42 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
StealthRock posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
smoliske posted...
TeaMilk posted...
StealthRock posted...
Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape

Yikes


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception

The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you.

Lie of omission

This implies people have an obligation to disclose something. Transgenders have no such obligation.

And why dont they?
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asagi_mode_gone
08/25/19 2:45:50 AM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Why? If you find out, all you have to say is no and leave. Seems much better than legally requiring people to divulge private information on a date.

For safety and peace of mind. People should also divulge things like if they have ever been convicted of a sex crime, or if they have and STD or ongoing pregnancy.

You can also talk to your doctor about it for more information.


Comparing being trans to being convicted of a sex crime, that's totally not suspect
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/25/19 2:45:55 AM
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OctilIery posted...
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
daily reminder. Oct thinks calling someone a troll isn't actually insulting them or flaming them.

Because it factually isn't. Outside the context of this board? Maybe. But Trolling on the internet has a meaning that doesn't imply flaming.

there it is

all this poster does it ignore logic, change what you said and make up new meanings for words and phrases.

You can continue to get trolled by him if you wish.
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StealthRock
08/25/19 2:46:28 AM
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OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Nope.

yup

Nope. There's literally no reason they should ever be required to reveal it, that decision should be entirely up to them. Their right to privacy, autonomy, and safety trumps the desire of some horny guy to get laid.

Flip that logic and use it in the next #Metoo case
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SH_expert44
08/25/19 2:46:44 AM
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asagi_mode_gone posted...

Comparing being trans to being convicted of a sex crime, that's totally not suspect

Where did i compare the 2 to being similar?
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:47:19 AM
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StealthRock posted...
If a man doesnt want thay he has a right to know.

He literally doesn't.

StealthRock posted...
But liberals love promoting deception so long as their feelings are ok

There is no deception being promoted and you're literally only arguing for the feelings of a horny man, vs the safety, privacy, and autonomy of others.

SH_expert44 posted...
For safety and peace of mind. People should also divulge things like if they have ever been convicted of a sex crime, or if they have and STD or ongoing pregnancy.

Literally none of those are comparable, and them not revealing that they're trans doesn't put anyone else in danger.
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SH_expert44
08/25/19 2:48:07 AM
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OctilIery posted...

Literally none of those are crimes, and them not revealing that they're trans doesn't put anyone else in danger.

Being convicted of a sex crime isnt a crime? What.
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:48:24 AM
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StealthRock posted...
OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
OctilIery posted...
SH_expert44 posted...
They should be required by law to let them know before hand.

Nope.

yup

Nope. There's literally no reason they should ever be required to reveal it, that decision should be entirely up to them. Their right to privacy, autonomy, and safety trumps the desire of some horny guy to get laid.

Flip that logic and use it in the next #Metoo case

That logic literally has nothing to do with #MeToo. What a worthless post.
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:49:21 AM
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SH_expert44 posted...
OctilIery posted...

Literally none of those are crimes, and them not revealing that they're trans doesn't put anyone else in danger.

Being convicted of a sex crime isnt a crime? What.

Derp, meant to say they aren't comparable.
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Gobstoppers12
08/25/19 2:49:53 AM
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Yes.
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StealthRock
08/25/19 2:50:05 AM
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OctilIery posted...
StealthRock posted...
If a man doesnt want thay he has a right to know.

He literally doesn't.

StealthRock posted...
But liberals love promoting deception so long as their feelings are ok

There is no deception being promoted and you're literally only arguing for the feelings of a horny man, vs the safety, privacy, and autonomy of others.

SH_expert44 posted...
For safety and peace of mind. People should also divulge things like if they have ever been convicted of a sex crime, or if they have and STD or ongoing pregnancy.

Literally none of those are crimes, and them not revealing that they're trans doesn't put anyone else in danger.


I love how you dehumanize a straight man who is looking for sex. Keep doing that. The right to lie is mote important than what a man may or may not desire to get involved with
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OctilIery
08/25/19 2:50:49 AM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
OctilIery posted...
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
daily reminder. Oct thinks calling someone a troll isn't actually insulting them or flaming them.

Because it factually isn't. Outside the context of this board? Maybe. But Trolling on the internet has a meaning that doesn't imply flaming.

there it is

all this poster does it ignore logic, change what you said and make up new meanings for words and phrases.

You can continue to get trolled by him if you wish.

You tried, I'm still neither trolling nor wrong.
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Blue_Dream87
08/25/19 2:51:39 AM
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There is no fucking way to salvage this topic anymore

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