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OctilIery 08/25/19 3:54:08 AM #101:	StealthRock posted... Rape by deception is comparable to rape though. We've already established this isn't rape by deception. Move on. StealthRock posted... Bigot is such a worthless buzzword these days its almost lost all meaning. Objectively wrong. AirFresh posted... I am done. Open your mind up or learn how to properly present an argument. You lost this one, champ. I presented an argument and won. You presented nothing. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517448] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Rape by deception is comparable to rape though.</quote> We've already established this isn't rape by deception. Move on. StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Bigot is such a worthless buzzword these days its almost lost all meaning.</quote> Objectively wrong. AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>I am done. Open your mind up or learn how to properly present an argument. You lost this one, champ.</quote> I presented an argument and won. You presented nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 3:54:25 AM #102:	asagi_mode_gone posted... AirFresh posted... OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... It does give you rights to disclose certain private details. Objectively wrong. I am done. Open your mind up or learn how to properly present an argument. You lost this one. "If you don't debate exactly how I want so I can straw man and make demands of your side that I would never make an attempt to draw up for my own side, you automatically lose the argument" No, just screaming wrong without any thesis is what makes him lose. If he made a viable case I would consider it. He decided to character attack and mke blanket statements. And he took the l because of it. If he gives me a proper refute next then it will resume. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926517453] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>It does give you rights to disclose certain private details.</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> I am done. Open your mind up or learn how to properly present an argument. You lost this one.</quote> "If you don't debate exactly how I want so I can straw man and make demands of your side that I would never make an attempt to draw up for my own side, you automatically lose the argument"</quote> No, just screaming wrong without any thesis is what makes him lose. If he made a viable case I would consider it. He decided to character attack and mke blanket statements. And he took the l because of it. If he gives me a proper refute next then it will resume.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 08/25/19 3:54:36 AM #103:	StealthRock posted... OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... It's not a negative statement. It is a disclosure, would I date a married woman? Convictions say no but who knows how I would react. You are character attacking instead of disussing the actual topic at hand. Sorry no, being trans is not comparable to being married. At all. Rape by deception is comparable to rape though. In other news, air and air, are they comparable? What you don't know MAY be hurting you. We'll tell you more at 11. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:926517458] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>It's not a negative statement. It is a disclosure, would I date a married woman? Convictions say no but who knows how I would react. You are character attacking instead of disussing the actual topic at hand.</quote> Sorry no, being trans is not comparable to being married. At all.</quote> Rape by deception is comparable to rape though.</quote> In other news, air and air, are they comparable? What you don't know MAY be hurting you. We'll tell you more at 11.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/25/19 3:54:38 AM #104:	OctilIery posted... StealthRock posted... We are also aware that someone having HIV is a possibility. Should theu not disclose that info as well?? They don't have to reveal it, but they have to take steps to prevent transmission, because that would cause actual harm. StealthRock posted... Jobs know that someone being an excon is a possibility. Should ex cons keep their jail records secret too?? Again, not comparable. But even then people with records have rights regarding what stage of the interviewing process that gets revealed in some states - they shouldn't have to reveal it right on the application. Funny how mosy applications have that question right there. But its still part of the process to reveal that info at some point is it not?? By your warpes logic, trans doesnt ever have to tell their partner that they are a changed member of the same sex --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926517459] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>We are also aware that someone having HIV is a possibility. Should theu not disclose that info as well??</quote> They don't have to reveal it, but they have to take steps to prevent transmission, because that would cause actual harm. StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Jobs know that someone being an excon is a possibility. Should ex cons keep their jail records secret too??</quote> Again, not comparable. But even then people with records have rights regarding what stage of the interviewing process that gets revealed in some states - they shouldn't have to reveal it right on the application.</quote> Funny how mosy applications have that question right there. But its still part of the process to reveal that info at some point is it not?? By your warpes logic, trans doesnt ever have to tell their partner that they are a changed member of the same sex</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/25/19 3:55:39 AM #105:	OctilIery posted... StealthRock posted... Rape by deception is comparable to rape though. We've already established this isn't rape by deception. Move on. StealthRock posted... Bigot is such a worthless buzzword these days its almost lost all meaning. Objectively wrong. AirFresh posted... I am done. Open your mind up or learn how to properly present an argument. You lost this one, champ. I presented an argument and won. You presented nothing. No. YOU have convinced yourself that its not rape. But facts will tell you that it is In simpler terms. Facts arent facts just because one deluded party says they are --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926517473] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Rape by deception is comparable to rape though.</quote> We've already established this isn't rape by deception. Move on. StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Bigot is such a worthless buzzword these days its almost lost all meaning.</quote> Objectively wrong. AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>I am done. Open your mind up or learn how to properly present an argument. You lost this one, champ.</quote> I presented an argument and won. You presented nothing.</quote> No. YOU have convinced yourself that its not rape. But facts will tell you that it is In simpler terms. Facts arent facts just because one deluded party says they are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 3:57:34 AM #106:	I am glad to have tagged in with you @StealthRock. You were a good partner. Clean them up pal --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926517501] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>I am glad to have tagged in with you @StealthRock. You were a good partner. Clean them up pal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 3:59:17 AM #107:	StealthRock posted... By your warpes logic, trans doesnt ever have to tell their partner that they are a changed member of the same sex Probably because the situations aren't comparable at all. StealthRock posted... No. YOU have convinced yourself that its not rape. But facts will tell you that it is Actually the facts tell me that it isn't. I know it's hard to grasp, but if you actually bothered looking at the facts you might have a chance. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517528] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>By your warpes logic, trans doesnt ever have to tell their partner that they are a changed member of the same sex</quote> Probably because the situations aren't comparable at all. StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>No. YOU have convinced yourself that its not rape. But facts will tell you that it is</quote> Actually the facts tell me that it isn't. I know it's hard to grasp, but if you actually bothered looking at the facts you might have a chance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 3:59:45 AM #108:	AirFresh posted... I am glad to have tagged in with you @StealthRock. You were a good partner. Clean them up pal He's lost this argument as badly as you did. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517538] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>I am glad to have tagged in with you @StealthRock. You were a good partner. Clean them up pal</quote> He's lost this argument as badly as you did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/25/19 4:03:30 AM #109:	I have answered every point you made so far regarding why you think transgender people should be legally obligated to reveal they are transgender. I have also answered every point you made so far regarding why you think it should be considered rape if they don't. So again I ask, why should transgender people be legally obligated to reveal that they are transgender to someone they are romantically interested in? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926517597] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>I have answered every point you made so far regarding why you think transgender people should be legally obligated to reveal they are transgender. I have also answered every point you made so far regarding why you think it should be considered rape if they don't. So again I ask, why should transgender people be legally obligated to reveal that they are transgender to someone they are romantically interested in?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:04:45 AM #110:	Octillery you got dunked pretty hard. You righteous way of arguing made you take the hard loss. Accept it and I just wanna say no hard feelings buddy. Good luck next time. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926517613] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Octillery you got dunked pretty hard. You righteous way of arguing made you take the hard loss. Accept it and I just wanna say no hard feelings buddy. Good luck next time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:05:33 AM #111:	AirFresh posted... Octillery you got dunked pretty hard Objectively wrong. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517626] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>Octillery you got dunked pretty hard</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:06:25 AM #112:	OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... Octillery you got dunked pretty hard Objectively wrong. Like I said good luck next time man. You were fun at first. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926517636] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>Octillery you got dunked pretty hard</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> Like I said good luck next time man. You were fun at first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:07:14 AM #113:	AirFresh posted... OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... Octillery you got dunked pretty hard Objectively wrong. Like I said good luck next time man. You were fun at first. Enjoy the loss, and enjoy being a bigot I guess. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517648] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>Octillery you got dunked pretty hard</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> Like I said good luck next time man. You were fun at first.</quote> Enjoy the loss, and enjoy being a bigot I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 08/25/19 4:10:12 AM #114:	Dragonblade01 posted... smoliske posted... TeaMilk posted... StealthRock posted... Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape Yikes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you. So if you give someone an STD, its their fault for not asking if you had any before doing it. <cite>Collat posted [p:926517688] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape</quote> Yikes</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception</quote> The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you.</quote>So if you give someone an STD, its their fault for not asking if you had any before doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:11:31 AM #115:	Collat posted... Dragonblade01 posted... smoliske posted... TeaMilk posted... StealthRock posted... Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape Yikes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you. So if you give someone an STD, its their fault for not asking if you had any before doing it. Having an STD and being trans are not comparable, nor is the choice to not reveal either detail. Stop making that bigoted argument. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517705] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape</quote> Yikes</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception</quote> The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you.</quote>So if you give someone an STD, its their fault for not asking if you had any before doing it.</quote> Having an STD and being trans are not comparable, nor is the choice to not reveal either detail. Stop making that bigoted argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reinbach_III 08/25/19 4:11:33 AM #116:	AirFresh posted... No, just screaming wrong without any thesis is what makes him lose. If he made a viable case I would consider it. He decided to character attack and mke blanket statements. And he took the l because of it. If he gives me a proper refute next then it will resume. Would you care to quote the post you've made that is deserving of a "proper refute"? Maybe I'm missing something but I can't find any post from you that seems to have much substance to it. --- I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein. - George W. Bush <cite>Reinbach_III posted [p:926517706] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote> No, just screaming wrong without any thesis is what makes him lose. If he made a viable case I would consider it. He decided to character attack and mke blanket statements. And he took the l because of it. If he gives me a proper refute next then it will resume.</quote> Would you care to quote the post you've made that is deserving of a "proper refute"? Maybe I'm missing something but I can't find any post from you that seems to have much substance to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 08/25/19 4:12:49 AM #117:	It's pretty vital information to know, so yes, they should. <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:926517723] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty vital information to know, so yes, they should.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:13:46 AM #118:	OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... Octillery you got dunked pretty hard Objectively wrong. Like I said good luck next time man. You were fun at first. Enjoy the loss, and enjoy being a bigot I guess. Nah the world isn't black and white. I for example personally donate to planned parenthood monthly and I am considered a mega liberal. But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed. It is history. It happened. You don't get to attack anyone who opposes your views. And that is what you do. You are in the wrong here. There is nothing wrong with being transgendered but it is unepowering to keep it a secret. Hold it with pride and a badge of honor. Hiding it is just staying in the closet and supressing your accomplishments and also just deceitful. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926517738] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>Octillery you got dunked pretty hard</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> Like I said good luck next time man. You were fun at first.</quote> Enjoy the loss, and enjoy being a bigot I guess.</quote> Nah the world isn't black and white. I for example personally donate to planned parenthood monthly and I am considered a mega liberal. But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed. It is history. It happened. You don't get to attack anyone who opposes your views. And that is what you do. You are in the wrong here. There is nothing wrong with being transgendered but it is unepowering to keep it a secret. Hold it with pride and a badge of honor. Hiding it is just staying in the closet and supressing your accomplishments and also just deceitful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:14:29 AM #119:	AirFresh posted... But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed. Objectively wrong. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517746] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed.</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/25/19 4:15:27 AM #120:	Collat posted... Dragonblade01 posted... smoliske posted... TeaMilk posted... StealthRock posted... Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape Yikes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you. So if you give someone an STD, its their fault for not asking if you had any before doing it. As I've said multiple times, you could make the argument that people should be legally obliged to reveal information about their STDs, because the disease could be transferred to their partner. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926517759] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Collat posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape</quote> Yikes</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception</quote> The only way it would be deception is if you explicitly ask about their genitalia and they lie to you.</quote>So if you give someone an STD, its their fault for not asking if you had any before doing it.</quote> As I've said multiple times, you could make the argument that people should be legally obliged to reveal information about their STDs, because the disease could be transferred to their partner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:16:39 AM #121:	OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed. Objectively wrong. And this is why I said I was done. You ignored the entire post and just said WRONG. This topic is closed unless you can actually make an argument. Good luck next time. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926517785] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed.</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> And this is why I said I was done. You ignored the entire post and just said WRONG. This topic is closed unless you can actually make an argument. Good luck next time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:18:40 AM #122:	AirFresh posted... OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed. Objectively wrong. And this is why I said I was done. You ignored the entire post and just said WRONG. This topic is closed unless you can actually make an argument. Good luck next time. No, you don't understand. I'm just saying wrong because what you're saying is all either unfathomably stupid or bigoted, and literally nothing you say is deserving of more than a simple, blunt denial. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517815] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed.</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> And this is why I said I was done. You ignored the entire post and just said WRONG. This topic is closed unless you can actually make an argument. Good luck next time.</quote> No, you don't understand. I'm just saying wrong because what you're saying is all either unfathomably stupid or bigoted, and literally nothing you say is deserving of more than a simple, blunt denial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:23:17 AM #123:	OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed. Objectively wrong. And this is why I said I was done. You ignored the entire post and just said WRONG. This topic is closed unless you can actually make an argument. Good luck next time. No, you don't understand. I'm just saying wrong because what you're saying is all either unfathomably stupid or bigoted, and literally nothing you say is deserving of more than a simple, blunt denial. No it just makes you look weak and objectively close minded. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926517874] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>But the bottom line is that yes it should be disclosed.</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> And this is why I said I was done. You ignored the entire post and just said WRONG. This topic is closed unless you can actually make an argument. Good luck next time.</quote> No, you don't understand. I'm just saying wrong because what you're saying is all either unfathomably stupid or bigoted, and literally nothing you say is deserving of more than a simple, blunt denial.</quote> No it just makes you look weak and objectively close minded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:25:03 AM #124:	AirFresh posted... No it just makes you look weak and objectively close minded. Objectively wrong. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926517892] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>No it just makes you look weak and objectively close minded.</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:27:07 AM #125:	OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... No it just makes you look weak and objectively close minded. Objectively wrong. Okay Donald Trump. Good night, you are pathetic at this point. I am done and the topic is closed an since it kill you so much, AirFresh 1 baby --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926517926] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>No it just makes you look weak and objectively close minded.</quote> Objectively wrong.</quote> Okay Donald Trump. Good night, you are pathetic at this point. I am done and the topic is closed an since it kill you so much, AirFresh 1 baby</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/25/19 4:31:38 AM #126:	AirFresh, if you want people to respond to you seriously, you should probably start by making an actual case for your position. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926517995] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh, if you want people to respond to you seriously, you should probably start by making an actual case for your position.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:35:00 AM #127:	Dragonblade01 posted... AirFresh, if you want people to respond to you seriously, you should probably start by making an actual case for your position. I did on multiple occasions. If I get someone just saying wrong without actually giving me substance then what is even the point of going further? In debates I give what I recieve. I was hoping the taking the loss thing would ignite him but it did not. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926518051] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh, if you want people to respond to you seriously, you should probably start by making an actual case for your position.</quote> I did on multiple occasions. If I get someone just saying wrong without actually giving me substance then what is even the point of going further? In debates I give what I recieve. I was hoping the taking the loss thing would ignite him but it did not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/25/19 4:35:26 AM #128:	OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... History is history and if you are wanting to start an intimate relationship then some aspects of privacy are to be abolished. Literally, objectively wrong. Having sex with someone doesn't give you the right to any of their private details. You get to know what they let you know, that's it. So me sharing my body with someone doesnt affoed me the luxary of knowing whether or not they are the same sex? --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926518056] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>History is history and if you are wanting to start an intimate relationship then some aspects of privacy are to be abolished.</quote> Literally, objectively wrong. Having sex with someone doesn't give you the right to any of their private details. You get to know what they let you know, that's it.</quote> So me sharing my body with someone doesnt affoed me the luxary of knowing whether or not they are the same sex?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/25/19 4:36:44 AM #129:	I had sex with a trans woman before she told me she was trans. I didnt mind at all tbh, dont see what the big deal is. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926518077] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>I had sex with a trans woman before she told me she was trans. I didnt mind at all tbh, dont see what the big deal is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reinbach_III 08/25/19 4:37:20 AM #130:	AirFresh posted... Dragonblade01 posted... AirFresh, if you want people to respond to you seriously, you should probably start by making an actual case for your position. I did on multiple occasions. If I get someone just saying wrong without actually giving me substance then what is even the point of going further? In debates I give what I recieve. I was hoping the taking the loss thing would ignite him but it did not. Please quote these occasions. --- I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein. - George W. Bush <cite>Reinbach_III posted [p:926518085] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh, if you want people to respond to you seriously, you should probably start by making an actual case for your position.</quote> I did on multiple occasions. If I get someone just saying wrong without actually giving me substance then what is even the point of going further? In debates I give what I recieve. I was hoping the taking the loss thing would ignite him but it did not.</quote> Please quote these occasions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:40:04 AM #132:	StealthRock posted... OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... History is history and if you are wanting to start an intimate relationship then some aspects of privacy are to be abolished. Literally, objectively wrong. Having sex with someone doesn't give you the right to any of their private details. You get to know what they let you know, that's it. So me sharing my body with someone doesnt affoed me the luxary of knowing whether or not they are the same sex? Nope. Because it doesn't matter. Shablagoo posted... I had sex with a trans woman before she told me she was trans. I didnt mind at all tbh, dont see what the big deal is. There is none. If at some point you can tell she's trans and want to stop, you can. If you can't tell she's trans, it literally doesn't matter. It's no better than saying "Oh I didn't realise they were part black!" like it actually caused you harm. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926518129] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>History is history and if you are wanting to start an intimate relationship then some aspects of privacy are to be abolished.</quote> Literally, objectively wrong. Having sex with someone doesn't give you the right to any of their private details. You get to know what they let you know, that's it.</quote> So me sharing my body with someone doesnt affoed me the luxary of knowing whether or not they are the same sex?</quote> Nope. Because it doesn't matter. Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>I had sex with a trans woman before she told me she was trans. I didnt mind at all tbh, dont see what the big deal is.</quote> There is none. If at some point you can tell she's trans and want to stop, you can. If you can't tell she's trans, it literally doesn't matter. It's no better than saying "Oh I didn't realise they were part black!" like it actually caused you harm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/25/19 4:43:58 AM #133:	smoliske posted... TeaMilk posted... StealthRock posted... Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape Yikes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception yikes --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926518183] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>smoliske posted...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. To do otherwise would be misleading and potential rape</quote> Yikes</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception</quote> yikes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:46:51 AM #134:	I'll also note, you should look at what the people saying yes are comparing being trans to. Cheating on your partner, having an STD, being a sex offender. Makes it pretty clear how they actually think of being transgender. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926518216] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>I'll also note, you should look at what the people saying yes are comparing being trans to. Cheating on your partner, having an STD, being a sex offender. Makes it pretty clear how they actually think of being transgender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/25/19 4:47:12 AM #135:	OctilIery posted... Shablagoo posted... I had sex with a trans woman before she told me she was trans. I didnt mind at all tbh, dont see what the big deal is. There is none. If at some point you can tell she's trans and want to stop, you can. If you can't tell she's trans, it literally doesn't matter. It's no better than saying "Oh I didn't realise they were part black!" like it actually caused you harm. Yeah, she was really sweet. I would have gladly had more sex with her, but I think unfortunately due to the societal stigma she felt really bad about not telling me first and we kinda lost contact after that. :/ --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926518226] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>I had sex with a trans woman before she told me she was trans. I didnt mind at all tbh, dont see what the big deal is.</quote> There is none. If at some point you can tell she's trans and want to stop, you can. If you can't tell she's trans, it literally doesn't matter. It's no better than saying "Oh I didn't realise they were part black!" like it actually caused you harm.</quote> Yeah, she was really sweet. I would have gladly had more sex with her, but I think unfortunately due to the societal stigma she felt really bad about not telling me first and we kinda lost contact after that. :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/25/19 4:47:41 AM #136:	A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926518231] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/25/19 4:49:04 AM #137:	OctilIery posted... StealthRock posted... OctilIery posted... AirFresh posted... History is history and if you are wanting to start an intimate relationship then some aspects of privacy are to be abolished. Literally, objectively wrong. Having sex with someone doesn't give you the right to any of their private details. You get to know what they let you know, that's it. So me sharing my body with someone doesnt affoed me the luxary of knowing whether or not they are the same sex? Nope. Because it doesn't matter. Shablagoo posted... I had sex with a trans woman before she told me she was trans. I didnt mind at all tbh, dont see what the big deal is. There is none. If at some point you can tell she's trans and want to stop, you can. If you can't tell she's trans, it literally doesn't matter. It's no better than saying "Oh I didn't realise they were part black!" like it actually caused you harm. And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye roll Just because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality. --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926518254] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>History is history and if you are wanting to start an intimate relationship then some aspects of privacy are to be abolished.</quote> Literally, objectively wrong. Having sex with someone doesn't give you the right to any of their private details. You get to know what they let you know, that's it.</quote> So me sharing my body with someone doesnt affoed me the luxary of knowing whether or not they are the same sex?</quote> Nope. Because it doesn't matter. Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>I had sex with a trans woman before she told me she was trans. I didnt mind at all tbh, dont see what the big deal is.</quote> There is none. If at some point you can tell she's trans and want to stop, you can. If you can't tell she's trans, it literally doesn't matter. It's no better than saying "Oh I didn't realise they were part black!" like it actually caused you harm.</quote> And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye roll Just because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:49:38 AM #138:	Dragonblade01 posted... A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied? If you are trying to have kids, and that is your min focus, yes. And I mean a eunuch is physically obvious. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926518264] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied?</quote> If you are trying to have kids, and that is your min focus, yes. And I mean a eunuch is physically obvious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/25/19 4:49:45 AM #139:	Dragonblade01 posted... A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied? They should if they are involved with someone who they know wants kids --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926518266] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied?</quote> They should if they are involved with someone who they know wants kids</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:50:59 AM #140:	StealthRock posted... And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye rollJust because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality "Just because some men are ok with sleeping with another race doesn't mean all are!" StealthRock posted... And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality. Says the man denying the reality of their gender. Nobody is hiding shit from you, they just aren't telling you. There's a huge difference. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926518280] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye rollJust because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality</quote> "Just because some men are ok with sleeping with another race doesn't mean all are!" StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality.</quote> Says the man denying the reality of their gender. Nobody is hiding shit from you, they just aren't telling you. There's a huge difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/25/19 4:51:03 AM #141:	OctilIery posted... I'll also note, you should look at what the people saying yes are comparing being trans to. Cheating on your partner, having an STD, being a sex offender. Makes it pretty clear how they actually think of being transgender. Pretty sure you are not a psychologist and you have commited tons of logical fallicies with that statement lol --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926518283] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>I'll also note, you should look at what the people saying yes are comparing being trans to. Cheating on your partner, having an STD, being a sex offender. Makes it pretty clear how they actually think of being transgender.</quote> Pretty sure you are not a psychologist and you have commited tons of logical fallicies with that statement lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/25/19 4:51:19 AM #142:	StealthRock posted... And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye roll Just because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality. Pretty small-minded of you. Are you a child? Its against ToS to be under 13 and make an account here, FYI. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926518288] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted... </cite> <quote>And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye roll Just because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality.</quote> Pretty small-minded of you. Are you a child? Its against ToS to be under 13 and make an account here, FYI. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:52:10 AM #143:	AirFresh posted... Dragonblade01 posted... A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied? If you are trying to have kids, and that is your min focus, yes. And I mean a eunuch is physically obvious. But should he be legally obligated to reveal it, or should he have the choice of when to reveal it? <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926518301] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied?</quote> If you are trying to have kids, and that is your min focus, yes. And I mean a eunuch is physically obvious.</quote> But should he be legally obligated to reveal it, or should he have the choice of when to reveal it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:52:49 AM #144:	StealthRock posted... OctilIery posted... I'll also note, you should look at what the people saying yes are comparing being trans to. Cheating on your partner, having an STD, being a sex offender. Makes it pretty clear how they actually think of being transgender. Pretty sure you are not a psychologist and you have commited tons of logical fallicies with that statement lol I didn't make any, nor do I need to be a psychologist to make that point. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926518307] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>I'll also note, you should look at what the people saying yes are comparing being trans to. Cheating on your partner, having an STD, being a sex offender. Makes it pretty clear how they actually think of being transgender.</quote> Pretty sure you are not a psychologist and you have commited tons of logical fallicies with that statement lol</quote> I didn't make any, nor do I need to be a psychologist to make that point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:52:57 AM #145:	Shablagoo posted... StealthRock posted... And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye roll Just because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality. Pretty small-minded of you. Are you a child? Its against ToS to be under 13 and make an account here, FYI. Dude he's been here since 2009 it is literally imposible. Horrible argument. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926518310] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted... </cite> <quote>And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye roll Just because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality.</quote> Pretty small-minded of you. Are you a child? Its against ToS to be under 13 and make an account here, FYI. </quote> Dude he's been here since 2009 it is literally imposible. Horrible argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 08/25/19 4:54:30 AM #146:	OctilIery posted... StealthRock posted... And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye rollJust because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality "Just because some men are ok with sleeping with another race doesn't mean all are!" StealthRock posted... And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality. Says the man denying the reality of their gender. Nobody is hiding shit from you, they just aren't telling you. There's a huge difference. Gender is not sex. Even you liberals ackowledge that. They are still biologically men. Gender has fuck to do with it. I and many men do not wish to have sex with members of the same sex And for the record, i never denies their gender. I simply said i dont want to be involved with them and that they should share that info with partners so that they cam avoid men who dont want that. Wouldnt it be better to be involved with men who you know like transsexuals instead of ones who have to lie to? --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:926518331] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>And there it is. The obligatory comparison to racism eye rollJust because some men are ok with it doesnt mean all men are. Stop forcing your warped, babby feeling driven views on others simply because you cant except reality</quote> "Just because some men are ok with sleeping with another race doesn't mean all are!" StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>And for your info. It DOES matter that i dont want to have sex with biological men. If thats what someone is trying to hide from me because they cant except that fact that some men dont want that, then tough. They should learn to face reality.</quote> Says the man denying the reality of their gender. Nobody is hiding shit from you, they just aren't telling you. There's a huge difference.</quote> Gender is not sex. Even you liberals ackowledge that. They are still biologically men. Gender has fuck to do with it. I and many men do not wish to have sex with members of the same sex And for the record, i never denies their gender. I simply said i dont want to be involved with them and that they should share that info with partners so that they cam avoid men who dont want that. Wouldnt it be better to be involved with men who you know like transsexuals instead of ones who have to lie to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:55:35 AM #147:	StealthRock posted... Gender is not sex. Even you liberals ackowledge that. They are still biologically men. Gender has fuck to do with it. I and many men do not wish to have sex with members of the same sex Boo hoo for you, their right to control their own personal details trumps your bigotry. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926518350] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Gender is not sex. Even you liberals ackowledge that. They are still biologically men. Gender has fuck to do with it. I and many men do not wish to have sex with members of the same sex</quote> Boo hoo for you, their right to control their own personal details trumps your bigotry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/25/19 4:55:50 AM #148:	AirFresh posted... Dude he's been here since 2009 it is literally imposible. Horrible argument. It was a facetious comment meant to highlight the users immaturity. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:926518355] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted... </cite> <quote>Dude he's been here since 2009 it is literally imposible. Horrible argument.</quote> It was a facetious comment meant to highlight the users immaturity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/25/19 4:55:59 AM #149:	AirFresh posted... Dragonblade01 posted... A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied? If you are trying to have kids, and that is your min focus, yes. And I mean a eunuch is physically obvious. StealthRock posted... Dragonblade01 posted... A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied? They should if they are involved with someone who they know wants kids Sure, but should they be obligated to volunteer that information right out the gate? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:926518356] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied?</quote> If you are trying to have kids, and that is your min focus, yes. And I mean a eunuch is physically obvious.</quote> StealthRock posted...</cite> <quote>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>A question to those who think transgender people should be legally or morally obligated to volunteer that information to a romantic interest: Should a man who's had a vasectomy or a eunuch be obligated to volunteer that information? What about a woman who's had her tubes tied?</quote> They should if they are involved with someone who they know wants kids</quote> Sure, but should they be obligated to volunteer that information right out the gate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/25/19 4:56:42 AM #150:	Shablagoo posted... AirFresh posted... Dude he's been here since 2009 it is literally imposible. Horrible argument. It was a facetious comment meant to highlight the users immaturity. yeah, AirFresh isn't that great at reading comprehension. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926518366] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted... </cite> <quote>Dude he's been here since 2009 it is literally imposible. Horrible argument.</quote> It was a facetious comment meant to highlight the users immaturity. </quote> yeah, AirFresh isn't that great at reading comprehension.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 08/25/19 4:58:05 AM #151:	Shablagoo posted... AirFresh posted... Dude he's been here since 2009 it is literally imposible. Horrible argument. It was a facetious comment meant to highlight the users immaturity. And this is a compelling argument. Sorry, I am rather intoxicated so I missed your now obvious sarcasm. --- I am probably on the toliet. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:926518389] in Should wom... [t:77962578]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>AirFresh posted... </cite> <quote>Dude he's been here since 2009 it is literally imposible. Horrible argument.</quote> It was a facetious comment meant to highlight the users immaturity. </quote> And this is a compelling argument. Sorry, I am rather intoxicated so I missed your now obvious sarcasm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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