Current Events > Jeffrey Epstein's guards fell asleep and falsified records

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CommonStar
08/14/19 12:40:22 AM
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The two staff members who were guarding the jail unit where Jeffrey Epstein apparently killed himself fell asleep and failed to check on him for about three hours, then falsified records to cover up their mistake, according to several law enforcement and prison officials with knowledge of the matter.

Those disclosures came on Tuesday as the two employees were placed on administrative leave and the warden of the jail, the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, was temporarily reassigned, pending the outcome of the investigation into Mr. Epsteins death, the Justice Department announced.

The two staff members in the special housing unit where Mr. Epstein was held 9 South falsely recorded in a log that they had checked on the financier, who was facing sex trafficking charges, every 30 minutes, as was required, the officials said. Such false entries in an official log could constitute a federal crime.

In fact, the two people guarding Mr. Epstein had been asleep for some or all of the three hours, three of the officials said.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-jail-officers.html
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Fam_Fam
08/14/19 12:42:10 AM
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"fell asleep"

good answer.

better for 30 minutes than for their whole lives
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pikachupwnage
08/14/19 12:42:10 AM
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Manadatory overtime was in effect for like 4-5 days for some of the guards IIRC

No shit you get terrible performance.
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solosnake
08/14/19 12:42:26 AM
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Darmik
08/14/19 12:43:55 AM
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I don't think this part was a conspiracy tbh. The justice system is so fucked on its own they don't even need one.
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CountDog
08/14/19 12:45:30 AM
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solosnake
08/14/19 12:48:55 AM
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Questionmarktarius
08/14/19 12:53:20 AM
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Darmik posted...
I don't think this part was a conspiracy tbh. The justice system is so fucked on its own they don't even need one.

"Nothing's going to happen! I'm taking a nap." isn't exactly unprecedented before something happens.
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Zikten
08/14/19 12:58:53 AM
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so did Epstein know the guards fell asleep? could he see them? and knew to act?
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Darmik
08/14/19 1:00:37 AM
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Zikten posted...
so did Epstein know the guards fell asleep? could he see them? and knew to act?


Why would he need to?
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Cornmuffins
08/14/19 1:03:35 AM
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Darmik posted...
Zikten posted...
so did Epstein know the guards fell asleep? could he see them? and knew to act?


Why would he need to?


Its zitken
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ThyCorndog
08/14/19 1:05:20 AM
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if this isn't a conspiracy then we're talking incompetence of epic proportions
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ColdOne666
08/14/19 1:10:33 AM
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I bet they "fell asleep"
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deanshow
08/14/19 1:12:23 AM
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ColdOne666 posted...
I bet they "fell asleep"
Honestly at my old job I saw cops and CO's fall asleep on their posts guarding an inmate, most were on mandatory OT and many were just burnt out. It's criminal how short staffed some of the prisons are, which why performances are shit

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CommonStar
08/14/19 1:31:56 AM
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This is the first death recorded at the MCC in 21 years.
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Ving_Rhames
08/14/19 1:34:12 AM
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Both fell asleep? Ehn, OK.
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008Zulu
08/14/19 1:35:30 AM
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Over-worked and under-paid people are bad at their jobs because of stress and fatigue. Also, the sky is blue.
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/14/19 1:36:54 AM
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Fell asleep from two shots of NyQuil to the back of the head

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whitelytning
08/14/19 1:44:10 AM
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Darmik posted...
I don't think this part was a conspiracy tbh. The justice system is so fucked on its own they don't even need one.


This is my take too. Some of the terribly paid and underappreciated employees did a shitty job and someone died. It happens when you have too many people in prison and not enough support. It's not a problem when it's a random guy there on a drug charge so no one cares until now.
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cjsdowg
08/14/19 1:47:11 AM
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I was a CO before... there is no way that both people are going to go to sleep with such a high valued inmate. This stinks.
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hockeybub89
08/14/19 1:50:41 AM
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The Deep State must be paying these guards' families good for them to voluntarily commit felonies and get caught.

Or the Deep State once again showed that the only thing matching its evil is its incompetence.
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ModLogic
08/14/19 4:21:31 AM
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he got away with his crimes once. he's is a sex offender. why is there such outrage?
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Crisscross
08/14/19 4:25:29 AM
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OR the more obvious answer.

A assassin slipped tranquilizers into their food.

They then threw him rope then showed him pictures of his family and loved ones and told him about how bad they would be tortured before they did the same to him. Unless he killed him self on spot.
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The Wheelman1
08/14/19 4:29:19 AM
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Why is this pedophile getting so much attention?
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Serious Cat
08/14/19 4:32:45 AM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Why is this pedophile getting so much attention?

Because he's very high profile with direct connections to high-level government officials of both parties.
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Crisscross
08/14/19 4:32:49 AM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Why is this pedophile getting so much attention?

Because he had secrets on a ton of the worlds Elite.

Then while being the worlds most highest profile criminal, was the first criminal to die in over 2 decades at a ultra secured facility.
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cjsdowg
08/14/19 4:32:52 AM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Why is this pedophile getting so much attention?


He had ties to powerful people. From Clinton to Trump... and many in the middle .
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NinjaBreakfast
08/14/19 4:36:27 AM
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Ziktens question isnt unfair tbf, it would seem like a string of sizeable coincidences for epstein to try and kill himself at a time when all of those supervising him were asleep without actually knowing they were asleep
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cjsdowg
08/14/19 4:41:04 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Ziktens question isnt unfair tbf, it would seem like a string of sizeable coincidences for epstein to try and kill himself at a time when all of those supervising him were asleep without actually knowing they were asleep


Don't forget the camera cutting off.
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Heineken14
08/14/19 5:05:54 AM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
Why is this pedophile getting so much attention?


Because he was buddies with a former president and a current president. That's kind of a big deal.

That said, I'm still of the opinion he actually did kill himself and no matter what comes out people will use it as evidence of the conspiracy being true.
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PonyTechTips462
08/14/19 5:12:17 AM
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Guards 'I feel asleep'

Good enough
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Hicks233
08/14/19 5:19:36 AM
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Yeah, and when someone shoots themselves three times in the back of the head it's "suicide".

Fuck off with that bullshit.

He either got whacked, or switched out, because there are too many people in too many positions of power that shit the bed panicking that he'd talk.
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Dampproof
08/14/19 9:37:38 AM
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Honestly. No suicide in 21 years and suddenly they have the most incompetent night in the universe with the most high profile prisoner in the nation.

Right.
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CRON
08/14/19 9:45:47 AM
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I knew this was going to happen. Everybody and their mother is skeptical about the circumstances, so now the narrative is "we need to improve prisons!". Bullshit.
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Were_Wyrm
08/14/19 9:45:59 AM
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Zikten posted...
so did Epstein know the guards fell asleep? could he see them? and knew to act?

On of the other inmates yelled "Guards are asleep everyone commit suicide!", but only Epstein did.
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Bloodychess
08/14/19 9:47:41 AM
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The prison also transferred Epstein's cellmate beforehand

Another coincidence
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Touch
08/14/19 9:47:50 AM
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The cameras "malfunctioned" and the guards "fell asleep"

Like come on lol
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garlic powder
08/14/19 9:48:27 AM
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PonyTechTips462 posted...
Guards 'I feel asleep'

Good enough


I came here to make this reference.

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IShall_Run_Amok
08/14/19 9:55:47 AM
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I don't see how complete incompetence is somehow less believable than a conspiracy. This is America.
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CyricZ
08/14/19 10:01:20 AM
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Bloodychess
08/14/19 10:02:11 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I don't see how complete incompetence is somehow less believable than a conspiracy. This is America.


>Cellmate is transferred out of the cell on the 9th
>Camera's stop working
>Guards fall asleep
>Epstein is found dead on the 10th

This certainly is America
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OctilIery
08/14/19 10:06:56 AM
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My personal conspiracy theory:

They were drugged to fall asleep, but didn't realise even after that they were drugged and started lying to cover for themselves, making the killer's job easier.

It's ridiculous but makes me laugh.
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IShall_Run_Amok
08/14/19 10:07:49 AM
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Bloodychess posted...
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I don't see how complete incompetence is somehow less believable than a conspiracy. This is America.


>Cellmate is transferred out of the cell on the 9th
>Camera's stop working
>Guards fall asleep
>Epstein is found dead on the 10th

This certainly is America

Considering one of those is an unsubstantiated rumor.

Yeah.
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Umbreon
08/14/19 10:08:55 AM
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ModLogic posted...
he got away with his crimes once. he's is a sex offender. why is there such outrage?


Because bigger fish could have been caught, but his secrets died with him.

Don't get me wrong. He is scum and doesn't deserve an ounce of pity, but he was still "useful".

Anyway, still very skeptical about all of this. Either someone pulled a lot of strings, or this is a terrifying look at just how incompetent our system is.
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Umbreon
08/14/19 10:11:39 AM
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Both are believable.

One is believable and makes on deeply ashamed to be appreciated of this country, so I'm not surprised that people are hoping the consipircy is true.
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NeoShadowhen
08/14/19 10:12:21 AM
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OctilIery posted...
My personal conspiracy theory:

They were drugged to fall asleep, but didn't realise even after that they were drugged and started lying to cover for themselves, making the killer's job easier.

It's ridiculous but makes me laugh.


They wouldnt need to do that. They would just need for these guards to never really materialize in any meaningful way. If any journalist or anyone else starts digging too much, just, you know, remotely hack their car while theyre driving. Standard procedure.
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CommonStar
08/14/19 10:34:01 AM
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Epstein may be dead, but we know there's one other person deeply involved in his operation and that's Ghislaine Maxwell. They should be looking for her.
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SquantoZ
08/14/19 10:35:51 AM
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moar liek sum1 paid them to "fall asleep" mirite?
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Unite
08/14/19 10:41:02 AM
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Ah so they drugged the guards so they wouldnt have to pay them.
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