Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 232: Jay Inslee Is Too Pure For This World

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I absolutely do not want my president to be a human being.

This is proof Yang is the only one who can save us.
The AI revolution isn't just taking retail jobs today and truck driving jobs tomorrow, it'll take away the presidency in the near future. But with a $1000 dividend, we can stop this by giving each person a chance to rethink what it means to have that much automation in their lives and all the pitfalls it brings, especially after rewatching The Matrix.
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Oh man, politicians blaming videogames for shootings. As someone who's been in the game industry since 2005, well hey, party like it's 2006 I guess.

This was supposed to be one of the few areas where Trump would have the moral high ground over Hillary, after all Hillary did team up with Jack Thompson back in the day.

But no, it's Trump with the shittiest political position on videogames, and Hillary coming to the defence of videogames:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1158429087133839360

Welp.
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Yeah the outlet to attack video games is gone because they pretty much went mainstream. They are consumed everywhere.

The causation link isn't there.

metroid composite posted...

But no, it's Trump with the shittiest political position on videogames, and Hillary coming to the defence of videogames:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1158429087133839360

Welp.

i dislike hillary, but give her credit for changing her stance on something for the better. rare event in US politics! (kerry going from being pro-war on terror to anti is another example of this but i can't think of too much else.)
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lol @ molyneux now going "well, of course there are decent people all over the political spectrum!" in his interview with cernovich about the shootings.

sorry dude, can't take that route when you've continually said shit like "i have less respect for the left than simians" and "the left doesn't give a crap about the poor because they're in favor of illegal immigration, which is terrible for the poor" for the past 14 years.
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metroid composite posted...

party like it's 2006 I guess.

The last good year

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

metroid composite posted...

But no, it's Trump with the shittiest political position on videogames, and Hillary coming to the defence of videogames:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1158429087133839360

Welp.

i dislike hillary, but give her credit for changing her stance on something for the better. rare event in US politics! (kerry going from being pro-war on terror to anti is another example of this but i can't think of too much else.)

Hillary has changed her stance on just about everything though. I think stubbornness is one thing for which she can't be criticized. If the poll numbers change so will Hillary's position.
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

Sounds like a fun guy.
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It's too bad the mainstream doesnt know what incels are so they can't point out that's a way more important indicator of his behavior than him supporting leftists and Antifa
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

It's too bad the mainstream doesnt know what incels are so they can't point out that's a way more important indicator of his behavior than him supporting leftists and Antifa

Incel are Alt-Right according to the last debate on it. And, vehemently argued it isn't all across the spectrum as I said it was.

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Need to wake up to the reality bad people exist on both sides. I saw people saying this was probably a white supremacist attack and not from someone on the left cuz mostly African Americans were killed in the attack.

Just like the Muslim bacon attack and the knifing in Oregon/Washington.

All assumed to be from the right and were from people on the left.

Stop assuming that. Condemn all violence. Stop making it political.
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https://twitter.com/Reggie/status/1158582691173814274

ya go my boy reggie
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The Trump campaign still owes El Paso over half a million bucks for a February rally:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/el-paso-says-trump-still-owes-the-city-dollar569204-for-february-rally

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Corrik7 posted...

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Nobody thinks this Corrik.

If anyone actually does feel free to correct me but I'm pretty confident in this one.
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pyresword posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Nobody thinks this Corrik.

You would be surprised.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

It's too bad the mainstream doesnt know what incels are so they can't point out that's a way more important indicator of his behavior than him supporting leftists and Antifa

The artwork for his porncore bad is legitimately disturbing.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

The Trump campaign still owes El Paso over half a million bucks for a February rally:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/el-paso-says-trump-still-owes-the-city-dollar569204-for-february-rally

One thing Hillary got right - it was lucky her father never did business with Trump.
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https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/08/05/cpd-on-weekend-shootings-one-act-of-violence-is-one-too-many/
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Corrik7 posted...

Incel are Alt-Right according to the last debate on it. And, vehemently argued it isn't all across the spectrum as I said it was.

The vast majority are alt-right or alt-lite. But there are definitely "leftist" incels that want to basically "socialize" women. Basically since they already view women as property and less than human, it makes sense to them for the government to redistribute them from the Chads to the Virgins. Obviously this isn't real leftism, but incels can doublethink themselves into believing it is. It's possible incels have moved on from this though, I sure as shit don't pay too much attention to them.

Any real leftist would disavow both them and the ideology. As opposed to just disowning them but still humoring their talking points in good faith as you see in certain other situations. So that's why it isnt a "both sides" thing.
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And real conservative would also disavow them. SephG - confirm?
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Incel are Alt-Right according to the last debate on it. And, vehemently argued it isn't all across the spectrum as I said it was.

The vast majority are alt-right or alt-lite. But there are definitely "leftist" incels that want to basically "socialize" women. Basically since they already view women as property and less than human, it makes sense to them for the government to redistribute them from the Chads to the Virgins. Obviously this isn't real leftism, but incels can doublethink themselves into believing it is. It's possible incels have moved on from this though, I sure as shit don't pay too much attention to them.

Any real leftist would disavow both them and the ideology. As opposed to just disowning them but still humoring their talking points in good faith as you see in certain other situations. So that's why it isnt a "both sides" thing.

I would love to know how you have determined that. That is what you want it to be.
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Corrik7 posted...

I would love to know how you have determined that. That is what you want it to be.

I guess I need to add the disclaimer that women aren't property and that Chad/Virgin is a humorous internet meme and not a legitimate worldview and that these are the parts incompatible with the left because I briefly forgot that you can't let idiotic viewpoints speak for their own absurdity anymore
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red sox 777 posted...

And real conservative would also disavow them. SephG - confirm?

Was referring to how real conservatives disown white supremacists while repeating those talking points but go off
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I would love to know how you have determined that. That is what you want it to be.

I guess I need to add the disclaimer that women aren't property and that Chad/Virgin is a humorous internet meme and not a legitimate worldview and that these are the parts incompatible with the left because I briefly forgot that you can't let idiotic viewpoints speak for their own absurdity anymore

You act like it is compatible with any ideology. It is a perversion. There is no ideology stating women are property.
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Corrik7 posted...

pyresword posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Nobody thinks this Corrik.

You would be surprised.

Many of you

Name two. Hell, name one.
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Corrik7 posted...

You act like it is compatible with any ideology. It is a perversion. There is no ideology stating women are property.

Oh good, then we agree. Incels can't be leftists even if they claim to support Bernie and antifa.
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pyresword posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Nobody thinks this Corrik.

If anyone actually does feel free to correct me but I'm pretty confident in this one.

Would you consider a milkshake a horrific attack?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

pyresword posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Nobody thinks this Corrik.

You would be surprised.

Many of you

Name two. Hell, name one.

Eddv said it was justified after the Charlotte shooting that 6 African Americans beat a white civilian walking to his car and stole his keys.

I was told someone can't demean Muslims if they were a liberal because liberals can't hate on others but definition of being progressive.

Want some resetera quotes praising the antifa ice firebombing as a hero fighting oppression?
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Corrik7 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

pyresword posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Nobody thinks this Corrik.

You would be surprised.

Many of you

Name two. Hell, name one.

Eddv said it was justified after the Charlotte shooting that 6 African Americans beat a white civilian walking to his car and stole his keys.

I was told someone can't demean Muslims if they were a liberal because liberals can't hate on others but definition of being progressive.

Want some resetera quotes praising the antifa ice firebombing as a hero fighting oppression?

I think they meant that person must not be a liberal. It's like how we say that any racist by definition is not conservative.
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How many have said it is okay to punch someone you think is a fascist?

Violence is okay when you can justify it on your side. That is wrong.
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Jakyl25 posted...

pyresword posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Nobody thinks this Corrik.

If anyone actually does feel free to correct me but I'm pretty confident in this one.

Would you consider a milkshake a horrific attack?

If they're lactose intolerant.
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red sox 777 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

pyresword posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Many of you seem to think anyone who does some horrific attack is conservative and if the left does it, it was justified (Antifa).

Nobody thinks this Corrik.

You would be surprised.

Many of you

Name two. Hell, name one.

Eddv said it was justified after the Charlotte shooting that 6 African Americans beat a white civilian walking to his car and stole his keys.

I was told someone can't demean Muslims if they were a liberal because liberals can't hate on others but definition of being progressive.

Want some resetera quotes praising the antifa ice firebombing as a hero fighting oppression?

I think they meant that person must not be a liberal. It's like how we say that any racist by definition is not conservative.

Perversion of idealogy can happen anywhere on the spectrum
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red sox 777 posted...

It's like how we say that any racist by definition is not conservative

Except racism by definition is Conservative.
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Corrik7 posted...

How many have said it is okay to punch someone you think is a fascist?

Violence is okay when you can justify it on your side. That is wrong.

Its okay to punch someone who is openly being a white supremacist in public
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

It's like how we say that any racist by definition is not conservative

Except racism by definition is Conservative.

No, it's liberal.

See, we can all play this game.
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Corrik7 posted...

You would be surprised.

when did anyone in this topic say "antifa's violence is justified"?

obviously, the world is waaayyy too complex to argue that only one side of the political spectrum has people who do terrible things. but right now, we're dealing with the aftermath of a white supremacist killing 20 people, so for now the focus is going to be on white supremacy being terrible.

interesting how i never see people like you go "but ALL religions have bad people, guys!" whenever there's been an islamic terrorist attack.
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To clarify I meant "no one here". I don't doubt there are people somewhere out there that approve of all types of violence, but I'm trying to assert they are a minority.

In this context what I mean by "horrific attack" is a deliberately planned and unprovoked attempt to kill or seriously injure another. By "unprovoked" I only mean to rule out cases of self defense or defense of others and not cases of politically motivated violence.
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For the record, I disavow bike lock violence
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Can we have a mutual agreement to disavow Antifa and fascism?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

It's like how we say that any racist by definition is not conservative

Except racism by definition is Conservative.

No it isn't
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Conservatism is adherence to tradition and an aversion to change, what's racism except adherence to your "tribe" and an aversion to people different than you?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Conservatism is adherence to tradition and an aversion to change, what's racism except adherence to your "tribe" and an aversion to people different than you?

Racism is a new (and therefore liberal) thing. We have historical records showing that skin-color based racism was not a thing in the 1400s. The emissaries of the King of Ethiopea were welcomed as long-awaited fellow Christians when they arrived in Europe in the late 1400s.

It was only after the discovery of the New World that the slave trade developed, and then racism was born to justify the slave trade and assuage the consciences of slaveowners (who could believe themselves justified). It's clear that any real conservative would reject such a modern newfangled idea.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Conservatism is adherence to tradition and an aversion to change, what's racism except adherence to your "tribe" and an aversion to people different than you?

Not to mention the fact that all of these racist groups and movements (not just in America, but overseas as well, including non-white racists) all gravitate towards conservatism. Its almost like theres something about an ideology that insists on stubborning fighting progress, that would make people fearful of outsiders.
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the only REAL conservatives are the hunter-gatherer tribes who refused to migrate out of Africa
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1158706058724040704?s=21

....in 2020. Lou Dobbs stated that this is a fraud on the American public. @peterschweizer stated with certainty that they suppressed negative stories on Hillary Clinton, and boosted negative stories on Donald Ttump. All very illegal. We are watching Google very closely!

Would that ACTUALLY be illegal even if true?
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red sox 777 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Conservatism is adherence to tradition and an aversion to change, what's racism except adherence to your "tribe" and an aversion to people different than you?

Racism is a new (and therefore liberal) thing. We have historical records showing that skin-color based racism was not a thing in the 1400s. The emissaries of the King of Ethiopea were welcomed as long-awaited fellow Christians when they arrived in Europe in the late 1400s.

It was only after the discovery of the New World that the slave trade developed, and then racism was born to justify the slave trade and assuage the consciences of slaveowners (who could believe themselves justified). It's clear that any real conservative would reject such a modern newfangled idea.

This is absolutely incorrect as far as premise. Slavery has existed forever. And, skin color wasn't a main reason for the most part.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1158706058724040704?s=21

....in 2020. Lou Dobbs stated that this is a fraud on the American public. @peterschweizer stated with certainty that they suppressed negative stories on Hillary Clinton, and boosted negative stories on Donald Ttump. All very illegal. We are watching Google very closely!

Would that ACTUALLY be illegal even if true?

Not sure. I would assume it would maybe fall under a illegal contribution? What is the monetary value of that? Who knows. Pointless to care tho.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1158706058724040704?s=21

Would that ACTUALLY be illegal even if true?

Nope (and as I'm sure you'll be surprised to hear, it's also not true!)

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Corrik7 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1158706058724040704?s=21

....in 2020. Lou Dobbs stated that this is a fraud on the American public. @peterschweizer stated with certainty that they suppressed negative stories on Hillary Clinton, and boosted negative stories on Donald Ttump. All very illegal. We are watching Google very closely!

Would that ACTUALLY be illegal even if true?

Not sure. I would assume it would maybe fall under a illegal contribution? What is the monetary value of that? Who knows. Pointless to care tho.

Why do you say pointless to care?
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Corrik7 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Conservatism is adherence to tradition and an aversion to change, what's racism except adherence to your "tribe" and an aversion to people different than you?

Racism is a new (and therefore liberal) thing. We have historical records showing that skin-color based racism was not a thing in the 1400s. The emissaries of the King of Ethiopea were welcomed as long-awaited fellow Christians when they arrived in Europe in the late 1400s.

It was only after the discovery of the New World that the slave trade developed, and then racism was born to justify the slave trade and assuage the consciences of slaveowners (who could believe themselves justified). It's clear that any real conservative would reject such a modern newfangled idea.

This is absolutely incorrect as far as premise. Slavery has existed forever. And, skin color wasn't a main reason for the most part.

Precisely. Slavery used to not be race-based. I am saying that racism is a new thing, not slavery.
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Corrik7 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1158706058724040704?s=21

....in 2020. Lou Dobbs stated that this is a fraud on the American public. @peterschweizer stated with certainty that they suppressed negative stories on Hillary Clinton, and boosted negative stories on Donald Ttump. All very illegal. We are watching Google very closely!

Would that ACTUALLY be illegal even if true?

Not sure. I would assume it would maybe fall under a illegal contribution? What is the monetary value of that? Who knows. Pointless to care tho.

I believe it. I just typed "Crooked H" into Google. None of the preview search results were "Crooked Hillary."
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