Current Events > I still get angry at how fucking duped we all were by MGSV.

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EffectAndCause
06/12/19 7:32:56 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krc1t4HU8GI" data-time="


The greatest video game trailer ever made and what was assumed to be the greatest Metal Gear Solid ever made and the most important chunk of the entire storyline finally told.

And instead we get bent over and FUCKED.
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darkprince45
06/12/19 7:33:25 PM
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Still a 9
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YourDrunkFather
06/12/19 7:34:39 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Still a 9


Maybe if you flip the 9 upside down
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OctilIery
06/12/19 7:34:58 PM
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At least what we got was fantastic, just incomplete.
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AlmightyCheeks
06/12/19 7:35:39 PM
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Thats what every kojima "game" is.
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Kisai
06/12/19 7:39:13 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
I still get angry at how fucking duped we all were by MGSV.

In terms of story, I wasn't, since I read the leaks before the game was released. I'm glad I did too, since that meant I didn't have to be hopeful for the story.
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The_Ivory_Man
06/12/19 7:45:36 PM
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Yeah.

Core gameplay is good.

Everything else is mediocre to just bad.

RAD gives an amazing performance as Kaz though
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EffectAndCause
06/12/19 8:22:38 PM
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And if they actually fucking USED him, Kiefer Sutherland was awesome as Snake too.
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Cool_new_name
06/12/19 8:25:38 PM
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It felt so blown up and hollow. I walked away not really wanting to play it again.
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Spiderman23JII
06/12/19 8:27:01 PM
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It definitely was bittersweet but its arguably the best gameplay wise in the series. You can literally play for hours
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Zack_Attackv1
06/12/19 8:28:30 PM
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Blame Konami then. They're the ones who decided to cut the funding to finish off those missing chapters and let go of their proverbial golden goose.
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DarthAragorn
06/12/19 8:29:06 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Blame Konami then. They're the ones who decided to cut the funding to finish off those missing chapters and let go of their proverbial golden goose.

Maybe the devs should have worked on the missing chapters instead of a shitty twist and pointless side quests
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clearaflagrantj
06/12/19 8:29:45 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
And if they actually fucking USED him, Kiefer Sutherland was awesome as Snake too.

Yeah he has like 7 lines total
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50Blessings
06/12/19 8:31:43 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Blame Konami then. They're the ones who decided to cut the funding to finish off those missing chapters and let go of their proverbial golden goose.


People still believe this?
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bevan306
06/12/19 8:31:54 PM
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the e3 2015 and launch trailer were cooler but yeah
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Garioshi
06/12/19 8:33:04 PM
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The side ops are fucking inexcusable, but the missions (that aren't padding) are great.
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Reis
06/12/19 8:33:41 PM
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it's still the best mgs though
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Doe
06/12/19 8:33:44 PM
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EffectAndCause
06/12/19 8:36:02 PM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
EffectAndCause posted...
And if they actually fucking USED him, Kiefer Sutherland was awesome as Snake too.

Yeah he has like 7 lines total


So fucking stupid, and he actually recorded a TON of dialogue that they didnt use because OMG HES MUTE BECAUSE HE IS YOU SO DEEP WHAT A TWIST.

His dialogue as the real Big Boss at the end was excellent.
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SSJ2GrimReaper
06/12/19 8:38:40 PM
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Ground Zeroes is superior to Phantom Pain
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ModLogic
06/12/19 8:39:28 PM
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lol they realized they weren't gonna finish it so just slapped on about 90% worth of rehashed side missions.
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DarthAragorn
06/12/19 8:42:09 PM
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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...
Ground Zeroes is superior to Phantom Pain

It really is

The design of the level is so tight and Skull Face was an actual threat
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King Rial
06/12/19 8:43:22 PM
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They played y'all like a damn FIDDLE!
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The_Ivory_Man
06/12/19 9:15:45 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Blame Konami then. They're the ones who decided to cut the funding to finish off those missing chapters and let go of their proverbial golden goose.


What Kojima did with the story is bad regardless of the dumb kids in Africa plot.

Psycho Mantis despite being one of the most memorable characters in Metal Gear is instead a mute nothing who is driven only by who has the biggest hate boner.

Ocelot displays none of his typical behavior and is just boring.

Skull Face is a joke of a villain compared to his set up in GZ.
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NeonOctopus
06/12/19 9:18:01 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Blame Konami then. They're the ones who decided to cut the funding to finish off those missing chapters and let go of their proverbial golden goose.

Cuz Kojima was blowing mountains of budget on it. Look at Death Stranding >_> That game is taking forever
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NeonOctopus
06/12/19 9:19:17 PM
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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...
Ground Zeroes is superior to Phantom Pain

I agree with this. GZ has such good design to it and I had a blast replaying it dozens of time.

The world in MGSV is just bad >_>
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r25
06/12/19 9:21:13 PM
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yBdIWWa
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/12/19 9:21:53 PM
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Metal Gear is cringey trash
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Turbam
06/12/19 9:22:22 PM
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Will Death Stranding have the same issues?!?
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Antifar
06/12/19 9:28:34 PM
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As someone who never played the other games, I've loved MGSV so far
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50Blessings
06/12/19 9:30:13 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Mgs5 managed to fix the second problem at least so I don't get all the hate it gets. >__>


It fixed it but did way too little with it, that's why it gets hate.

And I mean, that should be okay because it was their first rodeo with open world. It feels like a game that needs an expansion or sequel of some kind to better utilize all of the things that it offers. Instead, we have like a really good engine and barely anything to do with it.

If Konami had managed to get something actually decent out instead of Survive, I think you would see a lot less hate for MGS V. As it is now, people view it as a wasted opportunity by Kojima, And while there is plenty of things to give Kojima shit for (notably the weird cliffhanger when the idea to scrap Kingdom of the Flies was said to have been done years before any of the bad shit happened, and removing Battle Gear as a playable vehicle because it wasn't balanced enough in a game with tons of unbalanced shit) you can't really fault him for not making the absolute best open world MGS game ever when he didn't even go into it thinking it was going to be the last game.
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Garioshi
06/12/19 10:09:29 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Every mgs game outside of 1 had a shit story and clunky gameplay.

Mgs5 managed to fix the second problem at least so I don't get all the hate it gets. >__>

Literally 2 and 3
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The_Ivory_Man
06/13/19 12:59:53 AM
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Godnorgosh posted...
The first three games were great and there were parts of 4 and 5 that I really enjoyed. But 4 and 5 were still largely bad and had (comparatively) nonsensical plots.


Well Fukushima co-wrote the first three titles.

So I think his absence contributed in a big way to the differences.
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boxington
06/13/19 1:06:27 AM
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idk, I thought that MGS had a lot of dumb stuff going on with its story, especially when it concerned the "gene" theme.
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billcom6
06/13/19 1:07:53 AM
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I legit watch that trailer a couple times a year.

IT IS SO FUCKING GOOD
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Kelystic
06/13/19 1:43:26 AM
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You will be ashamed of your deeds.
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NeonOctopus
06/13/19 7:45:12 AM
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AvantgardeAClue
06/13/19 7:55:10 AM
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Expect a gripping story about revenge and downfall

Get lectured on the importance of languages and hamburgers instead

The real MGSV was Peace Walker. That was originally advertised as such and the story was a fitting conclusion for Big Boss, even with Kojima-only writing
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