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scarletspeed7
05/28/19 6:30:06 PM
#151:


Steiner posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Dave said he got the impression that they figured to combat AEW they wanted to focus on what they think they do best, which is non-wrestling segments


then what are they paying all these wrestlers for!

This is such a damning post in a lot of ways.
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Lopen
05/28/19 6:38:47 PM
#152:


"Then what are they paying all these wrestlers for" applies even if the wrestlers were actually wrestling considering how bloated WWE's roster is
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Maniac64
05/28/19 7:08:52 PM
#153:


Steiner posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Dave said he got the impression that they figured to combat AEW they wanted to focus on what they think they do best, which is non-wrestling segments


then what are they paying all these wrestlers for!

To not appear on AEW.
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Jakyl25
05/28/19 7:37:46 PM
#154:


The IIconics are the new longest reigning WWE Womens Tag Team Champions
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ffmasterjose
05/29/19 12:34:39 AM
#155:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I heard that match was actually great, which isn't surprising.

I would have been more surprised if it made the Hulu cut though.

Tell me the Uso party stuff made it in over that though, or that legendarily bad Shane segment


It did not. We got the Shane segment, the tag match with Becky, the fatal four way elimination one fall match, the segment with Sami and the match immediately following (I didn't even know that was the main event) and all the stuff with Brock, Kofi and Rollins. And the funhouse
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ffmasterjose
05/29/19 2:18:25 AM
#156:


Oh and they also made sure to include the 3 minute opening Memorial Day military pandering video package as well as the Orton/HHH package that they showed last week and on Main Event >_>
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 2:46:18 AM
#157:


Watching Raw now, this was the best Firefly Funhouse yet
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 3:20:44 AM
#158:


Jerichos podcast with Moxley just dropped, and early reviews are that its a great inside look at how out of touch Vince is
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WarThaNemesis2
05/29/19 3:34:44 AM
#159:


Jakyl25 posted...
Jerichos podcast with Moxley just dropped, and early reviews are that its a great inside look at how out of touch Vince is


If Moxley had actual ill feelings towards WWE, he could have put them in the ground just by following the scripts they gave him in regards to Roman.
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Steiner
05/29/19 3:46:40 AM
#160:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
If Moxley had actual ill feelings towards WWE, he could have put them in the ground just by following the scripts they gave him in regards to Roman.


if bad dialogue was gonna put wwe in the ground we've had ziggler for years
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WarThaNemesis2
05/29/19 3:47:38 AM
#161:


Steiner posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
If Moxley had actual ill feelings towards WWE, he could have put them in the ground just by following the scripts they gave him in regards to Roman.


if bad dialogue was gonna put wwe in the ground we've had ziggler for years


Yeah but according to Moxley it was a line so bad about Roman's cancer that advertisers would have left and WWE would have had to fire him.
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 4:36:55 AM
#162:


Hes gonna have to reveal that line someday

I can only imagine its something about how people who get cancer all deserve it
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TheRock1525
05/29/19 5:28:27 AM
#163:


I mean this is a company that said Eddie Guerrero was in hell so I don't know what would be surprising.

Also didn't Ambrose heavily imply Roman deserved his cancer in a promo?
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Steiner
05/29/19 5:29:47 AM
#164:


TheRock1525 posted...
Also didn't Ambrose heavily imply Roman deserved his cancer in a promo?


yeah, imagine what the line he wouldn't say could have been
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TheRock1525
05/29/19 5:33:52 AM
#165:


It's weird to see how everything turned out considering when it happened, we saw it as going down as a better moment than Rollins chairshot.

Now Ambrose literally works for a different company less than a year and his final match was as a member of the Shield.

Go figure.
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RaidenGarai
05/29/19 6:06:54 AM
#166:


I really need to listen to that podcast. If it's talking about how bad Vince is it seems like it'd be the perfect listen for me!
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Steiner
05/29/19 6:12:12 AM
#167:


RaidenGarai posted...
I really need to listen to that podcast. If it's talking about how bad Vince is it seems like it'd be the perfect listen for me!


it's must listen
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RaidenGarai
05/29/19 10:25:36 AM
#168:


I originally had absolutely no interest in AEW since I only know Cody and Jericho, but the more I watch WWE (which isn't often anymore), the more disgusted I get with how Vince runs things and the more excited I find myself getting for AEW.
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 5:48:23 PM
#169:


2.27M
2.25M
2.05M

4th lowest Raw viewership ever

Take that AEW!
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/29/19 6:08:18 PM
#170:


Holy shit that Dean Ambrose interview.

Vince McMahon needs to leave or nothing will change in this company for the better. Absolutely insane.
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TheRock1525
05/29/19 6:21:10 PM
#171:


I just saw Firefly Fun House for this week.

I have no idea how Wyatt gets this much creative freedom.
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PButterAndJelly
05/29/19 6:46:50 PM
#172:


The reason why this Dean Ambrose lingo is taking off because - well he NEVER talked crap about anyone before in his life.

...Doesn't Dean...okay Jon use Twitter like once a year on Twitter since 2012?
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PButterAndJelly
05/29/19 6:47:50 PM
#173:


Much like how William Regal isn't his real name or Kharma/Kia Stevens/Awesome Kong, etc.

Meh. :3
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DeathChicken
05/29/19 6:52:38 PM
#174:


He says in that podcast that they made him make the Twitter account six years ago, he literally never used it once until that video of the prison
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RaidenGarai
05/29/19 6:52:43 PM
#175:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Holy shit that Dean Ambrose interview.

Vince McMahon needs to leave or nothing will change in this company for the better. Absolutely insane.


Too bad Vince will never understand that hes the problem, hell just take Deans interview out on Renee since she still works for him.

If this company wants to have a future, Vince needs to be taken out of power sooner rather than later, since he wont willingly step down.
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XIII_rocks
05/29/19 6:59:29 PM
#176:


Is this Ambrose podcast on Punk/Cabana podcast levels of "holy shit WWE and Vince are awful"?
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Nelson_Mandela
05/29/19 7:04:20 PM
#177:


Steiner posted...
RaidenGarai posted...
I really need to listen to that podcast. If it's talking about how bad Vince is it seems like it'd be the perfect listen for me!


it's must listen

Anyone wanna tldr it here?
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Eddv
05/29/19 7:05:40 PM
#178:


XIII_rocks posted...
Is this Ambrose podcast on Punk/Cabana podcast levels of "holy shit WWE and Vince are awful"?


Well Punk was focused on health and this was focused on the creative process.

But sorta
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 7:06:30 PM
#179:


XIII_rocks posted...
Is this Ambrose podcast on Punk/Cabana podcast levels of "holy shit WWE and Vince are awful"?


Yes but only creatively, not health negligence

But the creative is a lot worse than anything Punk complained about
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RaidenGarai
05/29/19 7:08:41 PM
#180:


This is perfect! The Bucks choked and arent playing anymore and the Brewers are off tonight! Already downloaded the podcast episode, and will get the Vince hate train moving once the kids are sleeping.
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 7:11:32 PM
#181:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Steiner posted...
RaidenGarai posted...
I really need to listen to that podcast. If it's talking about how bad Vince is it seems like it'd be the perfect listen for me!


it's must listen

Anyone wanna tldr it here?


https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/jon-moxley-talks-issues-wwe-creative-process-talk-jericho-284856

If youre looking for a VERY short summary,

Vince, your way sucks, and I hope we make you change it
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 7:15:57 PM
#182:


I think this best sums up the difference between Punks podcast and Moxleys

https://twitter.com/trevordame/status/1133653335423107072?s=21
Both guys podcasts had that "I escaped prison and am so happy to be out" vibe but the difference is Punk left with his love of wrestling dead, Moxley left with it intact and says he's never been happier. That's pretty crazy for a star on his level to talk about publicly.

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NBIceman
05/29/19 7:21:01 PM
#183:


Also, the Punk podcast, IIRC, really brought to light a lot of things we didn't know or couldn't have expected.

Mox's podcast just confirmed a lot of things that a good number of us already believed.
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 7:22:54 PM
#184:


I honestly couldnt have imagined that Vince walks around telling people that complain about their scripted promos that they shouldnt complain because theyre so well-written.
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DeathChicken
05/29/19 7:23:34 PM
#185:


Summarized

Ambrose: *Is handed a terrible script* I'm not saying this, it's stupid.

Writers: Well we'll just change this bit then.

An hour later, the script is handed back with Vince's scribbling on it. "Please tell Dean Ambrose to read the damn scripts verbatim."
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NBIceman
05/29/19 7:26:57 PM
#186:


Jakyl25 posted...
I honestly couldnt have imagined that Vince walks around telling people that complain about their scripted promos that they shouldnt complain because theyre so well-written.

Really? That didn't shock me in the least.
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 7:30:29 PM
#187:


I just didnt see Vince as the kind of person that makes value judgments about his writing. It just exists and its what you have to read.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/29/19 7:46:21 PM
#188:


That's good shit, pal!
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NBIceman
05/29/19 7:49:26 PM
#189:


Jakyl25 posted...
I just didnt see Vince as the kind of person that makes value judgments about his writing. It just exists and its what you have to read.

Huh. I've always thought that he believed what he wrote to be the highest form of art.
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 7:58:29 PM
#190:


But he doesnt watch or read anything else! He has no writing to compare it to!
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NBIceman
05/29/19 7:59:08 PM
#191:


I'm sure in his mind he doesn't have to know anything about anything else to know his stuff is the best.
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ScareChan
05/29/19 8:08:23 PM
#192:


Jakyl25 posted...
But he doesnt watch or read anything else! He has no writing to compare it to!


" you think I came out the pussy drawing Mozart "
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/29/19 9:33:32 PM
#193:


One of my favorite quotes from that was "He pays Brock millions of dollars to ruin his company."

And the story about after his contract was up, Vince called up Moxley to try and get him to do a final farewell tour in Europe as a favor to him. Like wtf. Lol
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Jakyl25
05/29/19 9:49:08 PM
#194:


At 4 in the morning
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RaidenGarai
05/29/19 9:58:54 PM
#196:


That podcast was one of the greatest things ever. I hope enough people listen to that where WWE is forced to make an actual change. Like Dean kept saying, creative is shit.
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ExThaNemesis
05/29/19 10:19:09 PM
#197:


I don't like podcasts and rarely listen to them, but I found that one gripping start to finish tbh
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Lopen
05/29/19 11:45:51 PM
#198:


It was fun but didn't really say anything I didn't expect

I was kinda hoping he'd mention some frustrations he had from before the most recent run because he clearly checked out way before then, before I'd even say he was being terribly misused (his Smackdown title reign for example)

I mean I'm sure it was much the same kinda stuff just not as hilarious but still
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Steiner
05/30/19 2:00:37 AM
#199:


The moxley podcast is more damming than the punk one. The punk one was personal, this one is about the creative process. It hits home the points that those of us who think the product has been bad for 15 years plus have been saying forever and details it from within.
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Steiner
05/30/19 2:04:25 AM
#200:


"promos went from being my favourite part of wrestling, to my least favourite"
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