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pegusus123456 05/14/19 1:58:12 AM #51:	EmeralDragon23 posted... there are plenty of innocent people in Mereen, which she was also going to burn down She threatened to burn the other cities, not Mereen. And the way that scene went, it's entirely possible she was posturing in front of Tyrion. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:921866297] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmeralDragon23 posted...</cite> <quote>there are plenty of innocent people in Mereen, which she was also going to burn down</quote> She threatened to burn the other cities, not Mereen. And the way that scene went, it's entirely possible she was posturing in front of Tyrion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 05/14/19 9:44:54 AM #52:	It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Thief's Theme: 4 Star Review::https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J1HW7SP <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:921874452] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 05/14/19 10:09:58 AM #53:	Fanboys will defend anything. Can't wait to see this finale so this trainwreck can finally end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY7uvjj4UwI" data-time=" --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:921875348] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>Fanboys will defend anything. Can't wait to see this finale so this trainwreck can finally end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY7uvjj4UwI" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 05/14/19 11:09:17 AM #54:	De Evolution posted... But this episode showed us that she was able to conquer King's Landing with a highly acceptable level of restraint and lack of civilian casualties. King's Landing literally surrenders and Dany WINS the battle without having to hurt many civilians. So it proves that everything said before was total bullshit and that Dany should have went straight to King's Landing as soon as she arrived in Westeros and swiftly conquered it. Fair point. I wish they hadn't made it so one-sided and such a clean victory before the bells rung. It definitely undercut the premise of Season 7 and some of 8. --- I bow before my emperor, Advokaiser-- winner of the 2019 guru contest. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:921877564] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote>But this episode showed us that she was able to conquer King's Landing with a highly acceptable level of restraint and lack of civilian casualties. King's Landing literally surrenders and Dany WINS the battle without having to hurt many civilians. So it proves that everything said before was total bullshit and that Dany should have went straight to King's Landing as soon as she arrived in Westeros and swiftly conquered it. </quote> Fair point. I wish they hadn't made it so one-sided and such a clean victory before the bells rung. It definitely undercut the premise of Season 7 and some of 8.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/14/19 11:18:37 AM #55:	Polycosm posted... De Evolution posted... But this episode showed us that she was able to conquer King's Landing with a highly acceptable level of restraint and lack of civilian casualties. King's Landing literally surrenders and Dany WINS the battle without having to hurt many civilians. So it proves that everything said before was total bullshit and that Dany should have went straight to King's Landing as soon as she arrived in Westeros and swiftly conquered it. Fair point. I wish they hadn't made it so one-sided and such a clean victory before the bells rung. It definitely undercut the premise of Season 7 and some of 8. It makes the entire battle of winterfell/white walker storyline even less meaningful than they had already made it I actually didn't mind that as much, though. That feels like the kind of subversion you might expect, having a sellsword company built up as this big challenge and then in practice being totally useless. That's okay with me. And, yeah, Cersei should have basically no one in her army any more otherwise, so that also makes sense that King's Landing crumbled more or less immediately. It's just if you take that thread of thought seriously, there's really no reason to take King's Landing at all lol. The siege plan makes more and more sense if you game it out. I just feel all of the foreshadowing people are talking about happening misses the mark when you remember the alternatives that were around and how those events actually unfolded. These narratives don't happen in a vacuum. When the antagonists in the show mutilate people for giggles and try to kill little boys to cover up their incest (I mean, you can go on and on for Cersei) the idea that someone who wants to burn slavers is bananas. Really big misfire from the writers if that was what they were trying to show! There's more emotional weight to Jon killing a little boy who betrayed him then there ever was in a dead slaver. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921877925] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Polycosm posted...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote>But this episode showed us that she was able to conquer King's Landing with a highly acceptable level of restraint and lack of civilian casualties. King's Landing literally surrenders and Dany WINS the battle without having to hurt many civilians. So it proves that everything said before was total bullshit and that Dany should have went straight to King's Landing as soon as she arrived in Westeros and swiftly conquered it. </quote> Fair point. I wish they hadn't made it so one-sided and such a clean victory before the bells rung. It definitely undercut the premise of Season 7 and some of 8.</quote> It makes the entire battle of winterfell/white walker storyline even less meaningful than they had already made it I actually didn't mind that as much, though. That feels like the kind of subversion you might expect, having a sellsword company built up as this big challenge and then in practice being totally useless. That's okay with me. And, yeah, Cersei should have basically no one in her army any more otherwise, so that also makes sense that King's Landing crumbled more or less immediately. It's just if you take that thread of thought seriously, there's really no reason to take King's Landing at all lol. The siege plan makes more and more sense if you game it out. I just feel all of the foreshadowing people are talking about happening misses the mark when you remember the alternatives that were around and how those events actually unfolded. These narratives don't happen in a vacuum. When the antagonists in the show mutilate people for giggles and try to kill little boys to cover up their incest (I mean, you can go on and on for Cersei) the idea that someone who wants to burn slavers is bananas. Really big misfire from the writers if that was what they were trying to show! There's more emotional weight to Jon killing a little boy who betrayed him then there ever was in a dead slaver.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 05/14/19 11:20:54 AM #56:	If you hate the show and the writers so much, then stop watching it. Don't come on here and spew vitriol 24/7 and attack those that find some enjoyment in the show. This is legit a weird thing to do and can't feel good. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:921878005] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>If you hate the show and the writers so much, then stop watching it. Don't come on here and spew vitriol 24/7 and attack those that find some enjoyment in the show. This is legit a weird thing to do and can't feel good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/14/19 11:21:57 AM #57:	Knowledge_King posted... It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else. Good post. But at this point people are so hardwired on not listen to the reason, its really is irritating <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:921878028] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else.</quote> Good post. But at this point people are so hardwired on not listen to the reason, its really is irritating</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/14/19 11:24:50 AM #58:	vocedelmorte posted... Knowledge_King posted... It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else. Good post. But at this point people are so hardwired on not listen to the reason, its really is irritating based on what you just told me, it would make sense for her to go crazy and just destroy king's landing and the citizens immediately. what's the reason for waiting for the bells to toll? Because she 'expected cheering and standing up'? That's a much weaker explanation in isolation than it is when you string it together like that. Makes no damn sense that that's what pushed her over the edge, and if that's what they were intending, that's the kind of character beat they should have foreshadowed more strongly. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921878113] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else.</quote> Good post. But at this point people are so hardwired on not listen to the reason, its really is irritating</quote> based on what you just told me, it would make sense for her to go crazy and just destroy king's landing and the citizens immediately. what's the reason for waiting for the bells to toll? Because she 'expected cheering and standing up'? That's a much weaker explanation in isolation than it is when you string it together like that. Makes no damn sense that that's what pushed her over the edge, and if that's what they were intending, that's the kind of character beat they should have foreshadowed more strongly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/14/19 11:26:25 AM #59:	Balrog0 posted... vocedelmorte posted... Knowledge_King posted... It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else. Good post. But at this point people are so hardwired on not listen to the reason, its really is irritating based on what you just told me, it would make sense for her to go crazy and just destroy king's landing and the citizens immediately. what's the reason for waiting for the bells to toll? Because she 'expected cheering and standing up'? That's a much weaker explanation in isolation than it is when you string it together like that. Makes no damn sense that that's what pushed her over the edge, and if that's what they were intending, that's the kind of character beat they should have foreshadowed more strongly. Bells are there for theatrical effect. It isn't what pushed her. <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:921878166] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else.</quote> Good post. But at this point people are so hardwired on not listen to the reason, its really is irritating</quote> based on what you just told me, it would make sense for her to go crazy and just destroy king's landing and the citizens immediately. what's the reason for waiting for the bells to toll? Because she 'expected cheering and standing up'? That's a much weaker explanation in isolation than it is when you string it together like that. Makes no damn sense that that's what pushed her over the edge, and if that's what they were intending, that's the kind of character beat they should have foreshadowed more strongly.</quote> Bells are there for theatrical effect. It isn't what pushed her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/14/19 11:27:18 AM #60:	legendary_zell posted... If you hate the show and the writers so much, don't stop watching it. Don't come on here and spew vitriol 24/7 and attack those that find some enjoyment in the show. This is legit a weird thing to do and can't feel good. I mean, here's my perspective: I really love schlocky fantasy, so I still really like Game of Thrones. But as a fan of budget fantasy film, it's weird to see something that is basically that be defended so vigorously. Like, no one's going to bat for John Carter or Conan (2011) except for me, so it's actually kinda bizarre when the shoe is on the other foot like this. I do enjoy it. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921878202] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>If you hate the show and the writers so much, don't stop watching it. Don't come on here and spew vitriol 24/7 and attack those that find some enjoyment in the show. This is legit a weird thing to do and can't feel good.</quote> I mean, here's my perspective: I really love schlocky fantasy, so I still really like Game of Thrones. But as a fan of budget fantasy film, it's weird to see something that is basically that be defended so vigorously. Like, no one's going to bat for John Carter or Conan (2011) except for me, so it's actually kinda bizarre when the shoe is on the other foot like this. I do enjoy it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/14/19 11:28:03 AM #61:	vocedelmorte posted... Bells are there for theatrical effect. It isn't what pushed her. okay. so why did she wait until the middle of battle to go crazy if your explanation for it is the emotional loss she had experienced? that's also for dramatic effect, i.e., it only follows because the plot/story direction needs it to --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921878227] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>Bells are there for theatrical effect. It isn't what pushed her.</quote> okay. so why did she wait until the middle of battle to go crazy if your explanation for it is the emotional loss she had experienced? that's also for dramatic effect, i.e., it only follows because the plot/story direction needs it to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrNintendo1213 05/14/19 11:31:20 AM #62:	Knowledge_King posted... It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else. Arya saw her father's head cut off here. They killed her entire family. She knew to go for Cersei instead of murdering random innocents. It's pretty much calling Dany stupid and mean as the mountain to think she would just go randomly burning hundreds of thousands of random civilians instead of going for the person who actually hurt her. --- Dot Dot Dot... <cite>MrNintendo1213 posted [p:921878359] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else.</quote> Arya saw her father's head cut off here. They killed her entire family. She knew to go for Cersei instead of murdering random innocents. It's pretty much calling Dany stupid and mean as the mountain to think she would just go randomly burning hundreds of thousands of random civilians instead of going for the person who actually hurt her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 05/14/19 11:32:10 AM #63:	vocedelmorte posted... Knowledge_King posted... It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else. Good post. But at this point people are so hardwired on not listen to the reason, its really is irritating I don't know how many times this has to be said. People aren't pissed that she became a mad queen. They're pissed at the pathetic hack job that brought us to that point. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:921878390] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>It made sense. You're acting like she didn't lose everything to these people. Like she wasn't advised not to do what she did (and thus lost people trying to be peaceful). She lost her child to these people. She lost her other child trying to get their help and convince them to fight the dead. She lost her best friend for...no real reason. And then she had her own people undermining her, like Varys (who may or may not have tried to kill her) and Tyrion. No one loved her, not even Jon (in her mind). And when they surrendered, there was no cheering or standing up for her like she wanted/is used to. No love, only fear of her dragon. So she sent a message. She burned down everything to instill true fear in everyone else.</quote> Good post. But at this point people are so hardwired on not listen to the reason, its really is irritating</quote> I don't know how many times this has to be said. People aren't pissed that she became a mad queen. They're pissed at the pathetic hack job that brought us to that point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/14/19 11:32:58 AM #64:	Balrog0 posted... vocedelmorte posted... Bells are there for theatrical effect. It isn't what pushed her. okay. so why did she wait until the middle of battle to go crazy if your explanation for it is the emotional loss she had experienced? that's also for dramatic effect, i.e., it only follows because the plot/story direction needs it to Because it just so happened that she snapped at that moment. Her realization that she is alone, betrayed, lost her two children and conquered KL with fear, and will never be a true leader to it's people. Given that she is Targaryen, and have a weapon of mass destruction, and doesn't feel anything but hate towards KL inhabitants, she snapped. Moment when she did doesn't matter. You looking for the logical reason where it isn't suppose to be one. Episode starting with implication that Varys was trying to poison her, so he pretty much knew how it will end <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:921878416] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>Bells are there for theatrical effect. It isn't what pushed her.</quote> okay. so why did she wait until the middle of battle to go crazy if your explanation for it is the emotional loss she had experienced? that's also for dramatic effect, i.e., it only follows because the plot/story direction needs it to</quote> Because it just so happened that she snapped at that moment. Her realization that she is alone, betrayed, lost her two children and conquered KL with fear, and will never be a true leader to it's people. Given that she is Targaryen, and have a weapon of mass destruction, and doesn't feel anything but hate towards KL inhabitants, she snapped. Moment when she did doesn't matter. You looking for the logical reason where it isn't suppose to be one. Episode starting with implication that Varys was trying to poison her, so he pretty much knew how it will end</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/14/19 11:34:40 AM #65:	vocedelmorte posted... Because it just so happened that she snapped at that moment. Her realization that she is alone, betrayed, lost her two children and conquered KL with fear, and will never be a true leader to it's people. Given that she is Targaryen, and have a weapon of mass destruction, and doesn't feel anything but hate towards KL inhabitants, she snapped. Moment when she did doesn't matter. You looking for the logical reason where it isn't suppose to be one. No, you guys are just confusing storytelling with reality. Another thing that could happen based on logic and reason and facts is that Dany has an aneurysm and dies before the next episode. But that would not be good writing just because you can explain it as being realistic. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921878486] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote>Because it just so happened that she snapped at that moment. Her realization that she is alone, betrayed, lost her two children and conquered KL with fear, and will never be a true leader to it's people. Given that she is Targaryen, and have a weapon of mass destruction, and doesn't feel anything but hate towards KL inhabitants, she snapped. Moment when she did doesn't matter. You looking for the logical reason where it isn't suppose to be one.</quote> No, you guys are just confusing storytelling with reality. Another thing that could happen based on logic and reason and facts is that Dany has an aneurysm and dies before the next episode. But that would not be good writing just because you can explain it as being realistic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 05/14/19 11:37:38 AM #66:	Would have made more sense if she snapped and started killing everyone and then the bells rang and she ignored them. But then you wouldn't have gotten the scene of her face twisting sitting on the wall or whatever. Form over function. Cool looking shot over logic every time. --- Buffalo Bills <cite>theAteam posted [p:921878598] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>Would have made more sense if she snapped and started killing everyone and then the bells rang and she ignored them. But then you wouldn't have gotten the scene of her face twisting sitting on the wall or whatever. Form over function. Cool looking shot over logic every time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 05/14/19 11:40:11 AM #67:	theAteam posted... Would have made more sense if she snapped and started killing everyone and then the bells rang and she ignored them. But then you wouldn't have gotten the scene of her face twisting sitting on the wall or whatever. Form over function. Cool looking shot over logic every time. The show began trading logic and storytelling for spectacle a while ago and the balance between the two has gotten worse ever since season 5. What's amusing to me, is the lengths people will go to defend it, despite how obvious it is. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:921878708] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>theAteam posted...</cite> <quote>Would have made more sense if she snapped and started killing everyone and then the bells rang and she ignored them. But then you wouldn't have gotten the scene of her face twisting sitting on the wall or whatever. Form over function. Cool looking shot over logic every time.</quote> The show began trading logic and storytelling for spectacle a while ago and the balance between the two has gotten worse ever since season 5. What's amusing to me, is the lengths people will go to defend it, despite how obvious it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 05/14/19 11:40:40 AM #68:	We did see ravens flying right before Dany went mad... maybe we will get a big reveal next episode that Bran was actually the big bad, manipulated Dany's feelings so she would do that, in order to lead to the extinction of men? (he fights for the Children of the Forest) --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:921878720] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>We did see ravens flying right before Dany went mad... maybe we will get a big reveal next episode that Bran was actually the big bad, manipulated Dany's feelings so she would do that, in order to lead to the extinction of men? (he fights for the Children of the Forest)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/14/19 11:46:59 AM #69:	What's amusing to me, is the lengths people will go to defend it, despite how obvious it is. What amusing me is how you can't realize that despite it's flaws, and rushed writing towards the end, people still like the show. You don't have to be a blind fanboy to still enjoy something, even if i not as good as it was. <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:921878985] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><quote>What's amusing to me, is the lengths people will go to defend it, despite how obvious it is.</quote> What amusing me is how you can't realize that despite it's flaws, and rushed writing towards the end, people still like the show. You don't have to be a blind fanboy to still enjoy something, even if i not as good as it was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 05/14/19 11:49:52 AM #70:	What Daenerys did was perfectly in character. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:921879099] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>What Daenerys did was perfectly in character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 05/14/19 11:51:37 AM #71:	Balrog0 posted... what's the reason for waiting for the bells to toll? Because she 'expected cheering and standing up'? I mean...yes. Every other place she's conquered loved her. They fought for her. They cheered for her. King's Landing did the opposite. They screamed for Cersei to save them and ring the bell. They cowered in fear. It was visual confirmation that she was right. No one would love her. Westeros didn't know her and would choose Jon (in her mind, likely in reality too) over her. The only way they don't is if they fear her. Cue fire-murder-rampage. MrNintendo1213 posted... Arya saw her father's head cut off here. They killed her entire family. She knew to go for Cersei instead of murdering random innocents. Arya's not trying to be a queen though. She doesn't have to rule and isn't trying to rule by fear. Arya also didn't lose children and every single friend to these people. She still has family right now. And even then, she went psycho, became a ninja assassin and now wears faces and feeds people their families (rightfully so). And like...Dany also had her father killed on top of all the other stuff. And had attempts on her life. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Thief's Theme: 4 Star Review::https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J1HW7SP <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:921879162] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>what's the reason for waiting for the bells to toll? Because she 'expected cheering and standing up'? </quote> I mean...yes. Every other place she's conquered loved her. They fought for her. They cheered for her. King's Landing did the opposite. They screamed for Cersei to save them and ring the bell. They cowered in fear. It was visual confirmation that she was right. No one would love her. Westeros didn't know her and would choose Jon (in her mind, likely in reality too) over her. The only way they don't is if they fear her. Cue fire-murder-rampage. <cite>MrNintendo1213 posted...</cite> <quote> Arya saw her father's head cut off here. They killed her entire family. She knew to go for Cersei instead of murdering random innocents. </quote> Arya's not trying to be a queen though. She doesn't have to rule and isn't trying to rule by fear. Arya also didn't lose children and every single friend to these people. She still has family right now. And even then, she went psycho, became a ninja assassin and now wears faces and feeds people their families (rightfully so). And like...Dany also had her father killed on top of all the other stuff. And had attempts on her life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 05/14/19 11:52:42 AM #72:	She snapped. It's that simple. Not that hard to understand. Daenerys was one of the best parts of the episode. The lame deaths of Jaime and Cersei are what people should be complaining about. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:921879207] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>She snapped. It's that simple. Not that hard to understand. Daenerys was one of the best parts of the episode. The lame deaths of Jaime and Cersei are what people should be complaining about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 05/14/19 11:54:38 AM #73:	Knowledge_King posted... Balrog0 posted... what's the reason for waiting for the bells to toll? Because she 'expected cheering and standing up'? I mean...yes. Every other place she's conquered loved her. They fought for her. They cheered for her. King's Landing did the opposite. They screamed for Cersei to save them and ring the bell. They cowered in fear. It was visual confirmation that she was right. No one would love her. Westeros didn't know her and would choose Jon (in her mind, likely in reality too) over her. The only way they don't is if they fear her. Cue fire-murder-rampage. So... the fact that they surrendered and she won the battle... triggered her to commit the biggest genocide in the history of the Targaryens? --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:921879302] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... what's the reason for waiting for the bells to toll? Because she 'expected cheering and standing up'? I mean...yes. Every other place she's conquered loved her. They fought for her. They cheered for her. King's Landing did the opposite. They screamed for Cersei to save them and ring the bell. They cowered in fear. It was visual confirmation that she was right. No one would love her. Westeros didn't know her and would choose Jon (in her mind, likely in reality too) over her. The only way they don't is if they fear her. Cue fire-murder-rampage. </quote> So... the fact that they surrendered and she won the battle... triggered her to commit the biggest genocide in the history of the Targaryens?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seaman_Prime 05/14/19 11:57:12 AM #74:	It really reminds of Warcraft 3 Spoilers ~~Arthas becoming evil from good intentions.~~ <cite>Seaman_Prime posted [p:921879409] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>It really reminds of Warcraft 3 Spoilers Arthas becoming evil from good intentions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/14/19 12:01:59 PM #75:	Knowledge_King posted... I mean...yes. Every other place she's conquered loved her. They fought for her. They cheered for her. King's Landing did the opposite. They screamed for Cersei to save them and ring the bell. They cowered in fear. It was visual confirmation that she was right. No one would love her. Westeros didn't know her and would choose Jon (in her mind, likely in reality too) over her. The only way they don't is if they fear her. Cue fire-murder-rampage. Well, there was that really big exception where she saved a person who went on to show her how small and meaningless her performative generosity was in a very pointed way. So I don't think we're supposed to think that she always expects blanket adoration, though arguably the last few seasons have tried to play that up (the books do a better job of this imo) I do see the Jon angle as well. Idk, though. Still seems a weak explanation, but it is the best one I've heard! But, yeah, I see the Jon angle. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921879599] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>I mean...yes. Every other place she's conquered loved her. They fought for her. They cheered for her. King's Landing did the opposite. They screamed for Cersei to save them and ring the bell. They cowered in fear. It was visual confirmation that she was right. No one would love her. Westeros didn't know her and would choose Jon (in her mind, likely in reality too) over her. The only way they don't is if they fear her. Cue fire-murder-rampage. </quote> Well, there was that really big exception where she saved a person who went on to show her how small and meaningless her performative generosity was in a very pointed way. So I don't think we're supposed to think that she always expects blanket adoration, though arguably the last few seasons have tried to play that up (the books do a better job of this imo) I do see the Jon angle as well. Idk, though. Still seems a weak explanation, but it is the best one I've heard! But, yeah, I see the Jon angle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 05/14/19 12:09:24 PM #76:	...you can always just stop watching and find something else. By far, the worst thing about this season has been the weekly bitching after every episode. It's become sport. Move. The fuck. On. --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:921879894] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>...you can always just stop watching and find something else. By far, the worst thing about this season has been the weekly bitching after every episode. It's become sport. Move. The fuck. On.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/14/19 12:17:38 PM #77:	I both enjoy watching the show and criticizing the show --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921880208] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>I both enjoy watching the show and criticizing the show</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 05/14/19 12:19:19 PM #78:	vocedelmorte posted... What's amusing to me, is the lengths people will go to defend it, despite how obvious it is. What amusing me is how you can't realize that despite it's flaws, and rushed writing towards the end, people still like the show. You don't have to be a blind fanboy to still enjoy something, even if i not as good as it was. But no one is saying you can't enjoy it. You and other fanboys are actually defending the bad writing and inconsistencies instead of saying "it doesn't make sense but I really enjoy it". I do it with the Marvel films but I guess I'm not a fanboy cuz I can actually be critical and logical about something I enjoy. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:921880280] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><quote>What's amusing to me, is the lengths people will go to defend it, despite how obvious it is.</quote> What amusing me is how you can't realize that despite it's flaws, and rushed writing towards the end, people still like the show. You don't have to be a blind fanboy to still enjoy something, even if i not as good as it was.</quote> But no one is saying you can't enjoy it. You and other fanboys are actually defending the bad writing and inconsistencies instead of saying "it doesn't make sense but I really enjoy it". I do it with the Marvel films but I guess I'm not a fanboy cuz I can actually be critical and logical about something I enjoy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
untrustful 05/14/19 12:20:05 PM #79:	Knowledge_King posted... Every other place she's conquered loved her. They fought for her. They cheered for her. Knowledge_King posted... No one would love her. wat --- My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted <cite>untrustful posted [p:921880299] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Every other place she's conquered loved her. They fought for her. They cheered for her.</quote> <cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>No one would love her.</quote> wat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 05/14/19 12:24:42 PM #82:	DuranOfForcena posted... legendary_zell posted... If you hate the show and the writers so much, then stop watching it. Don't come on here and spew vitriol 24/7 and attack those that find some enjoyment in the show. This is legit a weird thing to do and can't feel good. nah, the legit weird thing to do is think you have the right to tell people what they can and can't watch and what they can and can't express critical opinions about bro this topic is doing exactly that --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921880474] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>If you hate the show and the writers so much, then stop watching it. Don't come on here and spew vitriol 24/7 and attack those that find some enjoyment in the show. This is legit a weird thing to do and can't feel good.</quote> nah, the legit weird thing to do is think you have the right to tell people what they can and can't watch and what they can and can't express critical opinions about</quote> bro this topic is doing exactly that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 05/14/19 12:28:42 PM #84:	Youngster_Joey_ posted... Holy shit that's fantastic. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:921880622] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Holy shit that's fantastic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TendoDRM 05/14/19 12:41:01 PM #86:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... We did see ravens flying right before Dany went mad... maybe we will get a big reveal next episode that Bran was actually the big bad, manipulated Dany's feelings so she would do that, in order to lead to the extinction of men? (he fights for the Children of the Forest) That's the only way his total silence in all of this would make sense. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! <cite>TendoDRM posted [p:921881134] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted...</cite> <quote>We did see ravens flying right before Dany went mad... maybe we will get a big reveal next episode that Bran was actually the big bad, manipulated Dany's feelings so she would do that, in order to lead to the extinction of men? (he fights for the Children of the Forest)</quote> That's the only way his total silence in all of this would make sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/14/19 12:42:43 PM #87:	cuz D&D have been writing the rest of the show sooo much better in comparison... who the fuck cares about Dany. She's even less relevant than the Night King, and he was the equivalent of a wet fart as it turned out. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:921881202] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>cuz D&D have been writing the rest of the show sooo much better in comparison... who the fuck cares about Dany. She's even less relevant than the Night King, and he was the equivalent of a wet fart as it turned out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProtonPeter 05/14/19 12:43:33 PM #88:	The complaining about it is infinitely worse than the show/direction/writing at this point. You people seriously need to shut the fuck up already. <cite>ProtonPeter posted [p:921881237] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>The complaining about it is infinitely worse than the show/direction/writing at this point. You people seriously need to shut the fuck up already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dib153 05/14/19 12:49:02 PM #90:	--- "Dib is my new hero. Epic insult man, epic to the max" ~ Drakona <cite>dib153 posted [p:921881455] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/14/19 12:50:09 PM #91:	i forgot that until the bells rang no one had bled and there was no fire I have to pay better attention before I start criticizing apparently --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:921881510] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>i forgot that until the bells rang no one had bled and there was no fire I have to pay better attention before I start criticizing apparently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/14/19 12:50:41 PM #92:	The writing could definitely be better, but this was built up forever. You have only yourself to blame for building her up as a Messiah. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:921881535] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>The writing could definitely be better, but this was built up forever. You have only yourself to blame for building her up as a Messiah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 05/14/19 12:51:39 PM #93:	dib153 posted... Here's the problem with these meme. Dany took everything with Fire and Blood in the most recent episode. She rode in on Drogon and single handedly destroyed: -The Iron Fleet -The Golden Company -The Lannister army -The city defenses They then surrendered. She literally won. With Fire and Blood. Also with minimal civilian casualties. She did exactly what she said she would. Then she decided to spend the next hour committing systematic genocide. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:921881580] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>dib153 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Here's the problem with these meme. Dany took everything with Fire and Blood in the most recent episode. She rode in on Drogon and single handedly destroyed: -The Iron Fleet -The Golden Company -The Lannister army -The city defenses They then surrendered. She literally won. With Fire and Blood. Also with minimal civilian casualties. She did exactly what she said she would. Then she decided to spend the next hour committing systematic genocide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/14/19 12:53:40 PM #94:	De Evolution posted... Then she decided to spend the next hour committing systematic genocide. No outlet for that rage anymore. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:921881660] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote>Then she decided to spend the next hour committing systematic genocide.</quote> No outlet for that rage anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/14/19 1:17:19 PM #95:	De Evolution posted... dib153 posted... Here's the problem with these meme. Dany took everything with Fire and Blood in the most recent episode. She rode in on Drogon and single handedly destroyed: -The Iron Fleet -The Golden Company -The Lannister army -The city defenses They then surrendered. She literally won. With Fire and Blood. Also with minimal civilian casualties. She did exactly what she said she would. Then she decided to spend the next hour committing systematic genocide. It's almost as if in the time between those events she's lost her best friend, her most loyal friend, half her army, two dragons, her lover, and her claim to the throne --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:921882652] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dib153 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Here's the problem with these meme. Dany took everything with Fire and Blood in the most recent episode. She rode in on Drogon and single handedly destroyed: -The Iron Fleet -The Golden Company -The Lannister army -The city defenses They then surrendered. She literally won. With Fire and Blood. Also with minimal civilian casualties. She did exactly what she said she would. Then she decided to spend the next hour committing systematic genocide.</quote> It's almost as if in the time between those events she's lost her best friend, her most loyal friend, half her army, two dragons, her lover, and her claim to the throne</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cosmic_Diabetic 05/14/19 1:19:23 PM #96:	I don't know why people are surprised. I thought most people knew the last couple of seasons would be garbage in terms of story. D&D are not good storytellers. They are good at adapting other peoples works but they ran out of work to adapt and it showed in the last 3 and a half seasons. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:921882757] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>I don't know why people are surprised. I thought most people knew the last couple of seasons would be garbage in terms of story. D&D are not good storytellers. They are good at adapting other peoples works but they ran out of work to adapt and it showed in the last 3 and a half seasons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/14/19 1:22:49 PM #97:	CM_Ponch posted... and her claim to the throne This is a major factor too it's like that texas judge who just ruled innocent on everyone that came in the day he lost because "this is what the dems want" I like how people can't get bothered about the complex plot points but when it comes to the simple shit it's real terrible. Signs of the times --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:921882903] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote>and her claim to the throne </quote> This is a major factor too it's like that texas judge who just ruled innocent on everyone that came in the day he lost because "this is what the dems want" I like how people can't get bothered about the complex plot points but when it comes to the simple shit it's real terrible. Signs of the times</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 05/14/19 1:29:20 PM #98:	Cosmic_Diabetic posted... I don't know why people are surprised. I thought most people knew the last couple of seasons would be garbage in terms of story. D&D are not good storytellers. They are good at adapting other peoples works but they ran out of work to adapt and it showed in the last 3 and a half seasons. I'm slightly surprised at how bad it's gotten even though I've been vocally hating on the writing and quality of the show since season 5. I simply didn't think they could fuck things up so badly as they've done the last 3 episodes. It's comically bad. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:921883221] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know why people are surprised. I thought most people knew the last couple of seasons would be garbage in terms of story. D&D are not good storytellers. They are good at adapting other peoples works but they ran out of work to adapt and it showed in the last 3 and a half seasons.</quote> I'm slightly surprised at how bad it's gotten even though I've been vocally hating on the writing and quality of the show since season 5. I simply didn't think they could fuck things up so badly as they've done the last 3 episodes. It's comically bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProtonPeter 05/14/19 1:30:38 PM #99:	De Evolution posted... It's comically bad. This topic is comically bad. Shut the fuck up. <cite>ProtonPeter posted [p:921883279] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote><cite>De Evolution posted...</cite> <quote>It's comically bad.</quote> This topic is comically bad. Shut the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColZach 05/14/19 1:31:44 PM #100:	Yeah except now her claim is HIGHLY threatened. <cite>ColZach posted [p:921883340] in Stop defen... [t:77712261]...</cite> <quote>Yeah except now her claim is HIGHLY threatened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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