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De Evolution
05/14/19 1:32:33 PM
#101:


ProtonPeter posted...
De Evolution posted...
It's comically bad.


This topic is comically bad. Shut the fuck up.


lol the fanboys are angry

don't be angry at me be angry at D&D
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SpudForce
05/14/19 1:34:15 PM
#102:


I'm more upset that they threw Jaime's character development into a pile of steaming hot garbage and turned Jon Snow into a useless side character.
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De Evolution
05/14/19 1:37:13 PM
#103:


SpudForce posted...
I'm more upset that they threw Jaime's character development into a pile of steaming hot garbage and turned Jon Snow into a useless side character.


I'm not as upset about Jaime's character though that definitely bothers me.

Jon Snow has been an ineffective, idiotic, brainless, mindless, directionless cuck for all of season 8.

Jon has no mind of his own anymore. All he says is "She is our queen!" it's like Jon lost all of his agency.

He's not effective at anything and he's dumb. He contributes almost nothing to every battle.

I don't know why he's even there to be honest. He's the most ineffective fucking sack of a character now.
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SpudForce
05/14/19 1:40:39 PM
#104:


De Evolution posted...
SpudForce posted...
I'm more upset that they threw Jaime's character development into a pile of steaming hot garbage and turned Jon Snow into a useless side character.


I'm not as upset about Jaime's character though that definitely bothers me.

Jon Snow has been an ineffective, idiotic, brainless, mindless, directionless cuck for all of season 8.

Jon has no mind of his own anymore. All he says is "She is our queen!" it's like Jon lost all of his agency.

He's not effective at anything and he's dumb. He contributes almost nothing to every battle.

I don't know why he's even there to be honest. He's the most ineffective fucking sack of a character now.

I mean who needs Jon Snow when you have ultra elite Black ops killer Arya and a Super Saiyan level dragon to solve your problems for you?
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P4wn4g3
05/14/19 1:47:20 PM
#105:


Jon snow has always been a weak character lets be honest. Even in the early parts of the show. Mostly he has relatable qualities.
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De Evolution
05/14/19 1:52:37 PM
#106:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Jon snow has always been a weak character lets be honest. Even in the early parts of the show. Mostly he has relatable qualities.


Jon Snow was a young savage when he joined the Night's Watch.

He proved himself not just morally and with his wits, but also with his combat ability, his grit, and his toughness.

He killed a wight.

He went North and avenged the mutineers who killed Lord Commander Mormont.

He infiltrated the wildlings, met Mance Rayder, got all their intelligence/secrets, and climbed the fucking wall.

He then escaped the wildlings, killing many of them, and returned to the Night's Watch to tell them everything about the coming attack.

He then led the defense of Castle Black.

Then he went North to parlay with Mance Rayder even though it would mean death, and thankfully Stannis saved him.

He then was elected Lord Commander of the Night's Watch as a teenager cuz he was that fucking good.

Jon Snow has always been a bit of a 'good ol boy' but he's also always been about that action.
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P4wn4g3
05/14/19 1:56:40 PM
#107:


And all that time he knew nothing
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Malfunction
05/14/19 1:58:23 PM
#108:


Kit H has always looked extremely gormless in the role and a lot of his achievements seem to be told rather than shown on the show with any actual weight behind them
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P4wn4g3
05/14/19 2:00:14 PM
#109:


Malfunction posted...
Kit H has always looked extremely gormless in the role and a lot of his achievements seem to be told rather than shown on the show with any actual weight behind them

That might be the issue honestly.
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De Evolution
05/14/19 2:01:15 PM
#110:


Jon Snow has no swagger and it bothers me.

Robb had a bit of style and flair and confidence at least.
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BlueBoy675
05/14/19 2:13:43 PM
#111:


Yeah. Kit is handsome and all but he really lacks charisma imo.
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Smashingpmkns
05/14/19 2:47:01 PM
#112:


Jon Snow always looks like he just smelled a fart and is trying to find out who let it out tbh
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EbonTitanium
05/14/19 2:49:28 PM
#113:


"The gods cannot abide such arrogance. They have plucked a fair flower from his hand and given him a monster in her place, to teach him some humility at last"
King Aerys Targaryen, the Second of His Name, about Tywin Lannister upon hearing of Tyrion's birth and the death of Lady Joanna

Dany was never at this level of mad, and this is still kinda early in the Mad King's madness.
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TendoDRM
05/14/19 2:52:23 PM
#114:


De Evolution posted...
Jon Snow has no swagger and it bothers me.

Robb had a bit of style and flair and confidence at least.

Watch the British miniseries Bodyguard. Richard Madden is amazing in that.
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theAteam
05/14/19 2:55:32 PM
#115:


They really pushed him off to the side.

Pretty much since the NK was killed he's been a side character.
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Funkydog
05/14/19 3:10:20 PM
#116:


TendoDRM posted...
De Evolution posted...
Jon Snow has no swagger and it bothers me.

Robb had a bit of style and flair and confidence at least.

Watch the British miniseries Bodyguard. Richard Madden is amazing in that.

Wait, that was him in that?

Well damn, didn't recognise him at all. That was a blood great series.
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DarkBuster22904
05/14/19 3:23:20 PM
#117:


Balrog0 posted...
Well, there was that really big exception where she saved a person who went on to show her how small and meaningless her performative generosity was in a very pointed way

And she promptly burned that person alive, despite knowing exactly how justified that person was.

If anything, a solid pointer to what we ended up getting

Also, friendly reminder that Jorah was literally a slaver
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Balrog0
05/14/19 3:52:49 PM
#118:


DarkBuster22904 posted...
And she promptly burned that person alive, despite knowing exactly how justified that person was.

If anything, a solid pointer to what we ended up getting


That's a really weird take on that scene. I don't agree at all. Everything Dany did in that sequence is virtuous, considering her limited ability to influence change from her position as Khaleesi. It was at a personal cost to herself that the person was alive at all, and we also don't know that the other women who were saved feel the same way that a literal witch does! If anything the framing here is showing that she is overly trusting and generous, expecting reciprocity where there is none.

It's certainly a learning experience but to say this foreshadows slaughtering civilians is really stretching and removing almost all the context from that plot line.
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Youngster_Joey_
05/15/19 9:31:39 AM
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Spiritlittle
05/15/19 9:57:07 AM
#120:


shnangyboos posted...
You can't really defend the writing here. We've been given glimpses of what she could become, then they go balls deep in the span of three episodes. This was always a possible end for her, but they leapt farther than Arya's ass to get there as soon as possible.

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Spiritlittle
05/15/19 10:00:13 AM
#121:


D&D are clearly trying to end the series ASAP and move on to Star Wars. They've rushed everything and it's clear they don't care anymore. They got famous from GoT and now they're moving to one of the biggest IPs in history.

Especially since HBO offered and asked them for a full 10 episode season and they said they can do it in six.

You can't rush art.
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theAteam
05/15/19 11:56:06 AM
#122:


Spiritlittle posted...
D&D are clearly trying to end the series ASAP and move on to Star Wars. They've rushed everything and it's clear they don't care anymore. They got famous from GoT and now they're moving to one of the biggest IPs in history.

Especially since HBO offered and asked them for a full 10 episode season and they said they can do it in six.

You can't rush art.


Then instead of handing it off to someone with the time and willingness to do it right, they decided to half-ass it. That's the real crime here.
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