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UnholyMudcrab
12/25/18 1:56:16 PM
#51:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
A Christmas movie has to have a plot involving the morals and meanings of Christmas.

Die Hard is just a movie set during Christmas for aesthetics.

Yeah, this. Last I checked, terrorism wasn't a Christmas theme.
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WafflehouseJK
12/25/18 1:57:17 PM
#52:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
A Christmas movie has to have a plot involving the morals and meanings of Christmas.

Die Hard is just a movie set during Christmas for aesthetics.

Yeah, this. Last I checked, terrorism wasn't a Christmas theme.

The appreciation and prioritization of family is though, and that's a major plot point between him and his wife.
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WafflehouseJK
12/25/18 2:02:27 PM
#53:


Also, where is this rule that it has to have certain values to be a Christmas movie?

You guys are really restricting the genre.
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TrevorBlack79
12/25/18 2:04:20 PM
#54:


NameMeWhatever posted...
As someone who was alive when Die Hard first came out I can tell you that the TV ads for it called it a Christmas movie that would get your heart pumping.


As someone who was alive and old enough to remember when Die Hard first came out, no they didn't.

NameMeWhatever posted...
So you can shut the f*** up and get the f*** out of here with your worthless opinion.


You're trying too hard.
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Ryuko_Chan
12/25/18 2:12:53 PM
#55:


averagejoel posted...
no, Die Hard is not a Christmas movie, though it is often mistaken for one because it takes place on 24 december, which is not Christmas Day

Christmas Eve is Christmas.
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Jiek_Fafn
12/25/18 2:22:34 PM
#56:


Give it up, TC.
There's people that refuse to accept Gremlins as a Christmas movie too and that is even more thematically about Christmas. There's just always going to be people that love being wrong.
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Southernfatman
12/25/18 2:29:18 PM
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It's a different kind of Christmas movie, but it's still a Christmas movie. I can understand why it won't be a pick to watch for many people during Christmas, but I never got why people hate it being called a Christmas movie.

Even if it was just a joke or meme at first, it's now a holiday tradition for some and people can look at things differently. What's the harm in any of it?
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TrevorBlack79
12/25/18 2:36:48 PM
#58:


Jiek_Fafn posted...
Give it up, TC.
There's people that refuse to accept Gremlins as a Christmas movie too and that is even more thematically about Christmas. There's just always going to be people that love being wrong.


See, Gremlins actually is a Christmas movie though.
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_RETS_
12/25/18 2:40:11 PM
#59:


It 100% is. Outside of the setting, decorations, and the music it is about family reuniting over the holiday, overcoming thieving crunches, and giving the gifts of bullets and fists.
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WafflehouseJK
12/25/18 2:41:33 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Give it up, TC.
There's people that refuse to accept Gremlins as a Christmas movie too and that is even more thematically about Christmas. There's just always going to be people that love being wrong.

I don't get how people can argue that Gremlins isn't a Christmas movie.

Christmas movies don't have to be the same Rudolph and Frosty specials over and over again. They can overlap with other genres; very few movies in general are exclusively one genre with no overlap whatsoever.

There can be Christmas horror and Christmas action movies.
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Kaiganeer
12/25/18 2:41:49 PM
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what constitutes a christmas movie
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KainWind
12/25/18 2:44:56 PM
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I'm more concerned that you just saw it for the first time. I also watched it yesterday though.
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WafflehouseJK
12/25/18 2:48:19 PM
#64:


KainWind posted...
I'm more concerned that you just saw it for the first time. I also watched it yesterday though.

I'm a huge film guy, but there's still some mainstream stuff I haven't gotten to yet.
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SwayM
12/25/18 2:56:18 PM
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Dude imagine taking Bruce Willies opinion on anything

Dudes a fucking tool with one of the worst egos ever. So many stories of how difficult he is to work with. Theres videos on YouTube of him being an ass in interviews.

The fact he thinks its not a Christmas movie just further cements its place as a Christmas movie lol. Fuck Bruce Willie
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averagejoel
12/25/18 3:00:54 PM
#66:


PhantomMoogle posted...
Christmas plays an integral part in the plot, there is a literal Christmas party and the "Now I have a machine gun, Ho Ho Ho" doesn't work at any other time of year

the plot would not be significantly changed if it was just a regular office party, or if "ho ho ho" was removed
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averagejoel
12/25/18 3:01:43 PM
#67:


Ryuko_Chan posted...
averagejoel posted...
no, Die Hard is not a Christmas movie, though it is often mistaken for one because it takes place on 24 december, which is not Christmas Day

Christmas Eve is Christmas.

that doesn't make it a christmas movie
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AlecSkorpio
12/25/18 5:31:54 PM
#68:


averagejoel posted...
the plot would not be significantly changed if it was just a regular office party, or if "ho ho ho" was removed


A lot of the score would feel out of place.

And maybe I'm remembering wrong, but wasn't a major part of the plan the idea that there would be less resistance because it was Christmas or something?
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theAteam
12/25/18 5:32:27 PM
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I'm gonna watch it again right now
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WafflehouseJK
12/25/18 5:44:01 PM
#70:


AlecSkorpio posted...
averagejoel posted...
the plot would not be significantly changed if it was just a regular office party, or if "ho ho ho" was removed


A lot of the score would feel out of place.

And maybe I'm remembering wrong, but wasn't a major part of the plan the idea that there would be less resistance because it was Christmas or something?

Yep.

People just like to be contrarian.
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theAteam
12/25/18 7:38:02 PM
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theAteam posted...
I'm gonna watch it again right now


Alright I watched it. There's like 2 dozen Christmas references in songs, props, and dialogue. The Christmas theme is prolific throughout the whole thing.
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WafflehouseJK
12/25/18 8:24:35 PM
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theAteam posted...
theAteam posted...
I'm gonna watch it again right now


Alright I watched it. There's like 2 dozen Christmas references in songs, props, and dialogue. The Christmas theme is prolific throughout the whole thing.

Yep. People just like to be stubborn, and for some reason thing there cant be overlap in genres.
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FortuneCookie
12/25/18 11:54:27 PM
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averagejoel posted...
FortuneCookie posted...
I saw this at a theater on Friday. The audience sang along with Let It Snow at the end. Totes a Christmas movie.

Let It Snow is certainly a winter song, but it doesn't even make any mention of christmas


You're really gonna try to say "It's a winter movie"?

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averagejoel
12/26/18 12:11:09 AM
#74:


FortuneCookie posted...
averagejoel posted...
FortuneCookie posted...
I saw this at a theater on Friday. The audience sang along with Let It Snow at the end. Totes a Christmas movie.

Let It Snow is certainly a winter song, but it doesn't even make any mention of christmas


You're really gonna try to say "It's a winter movie"?

:/

Let It Snow is a song, not (to my knowledge) a movie
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WafflehouseJK
12/26/18 1:11:34 AM
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SwayM
12/26/18 6:39:21 AM
#76:


averagejoel posted...
Ryuko_Chan posted...
averagejoel posted...
no, Die Hard is not a Christmas movie, though it is often mistaken for one because it takes place on 24 december, which is not Christmas Day

Christmas Eve is Christmas.

that doesn't make it a christmas movie


Imagine being this purposely obtuse.
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FortuneCookie
12/26/18 10:22:17 AM
#77:


averagejoel posted...
Let It Snow is a song, not (to my knowledge) a movie


If the audience sings along with a Christmas song at the end of a movie taking place on Christmas Eve, centered around a Christmas party, I'd say that makes it a Christmas movie.
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averagejoel
12/26/18 10:51:48 AM
#78:


FortuneCookie posted...
averagejoel posted...
Let It Snow is a song, not (to my knowledge) a movie


If the audience sings along with a Christmas song at the end of a movie taking place on Christmas Eve, centered around a Christmas party, I'd say that makes it a Christmas movie.

Let It Snow makes no mention of Christmas
the plot would not be significantly changed if it was a regular office party
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FortuneCookie
12/27/18 12:12:37 PM
#79:


And It's a Wonderful Life could take place any time of the year.
A Christmas Story could be about a child wanting a Red Rider for his birthday.

If you want to play that game, you pretty much have to include Santa as a central character for it to qualify as a Christmas movie.
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Alpha218
12/27/18 12:16:21 PM
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BuckVanHammer
12/27/18 12:18:51 PM
#81:


SwayM posted...
Dude imagine taking Bruce Willies opinion on anything

Dudes a fucking tool with one of the worst egos ever. So many stories of how difficult he is to work with. Theres videos on YouTube of him being an ass in interviews.

The fact he thinks its not a Christmas movie just further cements its place as a Christmas movie lol. Fuck Bruce Willie


Ya Im not Willis fan at all. Im on team xmas movie now.
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WafflehouseJK
12/27/18 3:38:37 PM
#82:


Alpha218 posted...
JkYD4nz

It's almost like the actors playing fictional characters don't equate to being the same person, and that's a very silly and gross simplification
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Alpha218
12/27/18 4:06:57 PM
#83:


Its okay even if you cant admit that you just got memed on waffle
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Were_Wyrm
12/27/18 4:14:36 PM
#84:


Iron Man 3 is a Christmas movie
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WafflehouseJK
12/27/18 5:53:33 PM
#85:


Alpha218 posted...
Its okay even if you cant admit that you just got memed on waffle

<3

Were_Wyrm posted...
Iron Man 3 is a Christmas movie

Yes, it is.

And so is Brazil, and Gremlins.
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WafflehouseJK
12/28/18 2:24:58 PM
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bump
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Toadsworth
12/28/18 2:44:13 PM
#87:


Batman Returns is the best Christmas movie.
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Cocytus
12/28/18 2:47:12 PM
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I agree.
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